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Strait of Hormuz 'closed' again, Iranian state media says [Update@ Post 9075]

How will Iran react to the attack from Israel?

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HalBass9 said:
India’s basically switched sides depending on how the global politics were playing out. Before the Soviet Union collapsed, it was pretty much in the Soviet camp. But once that ended, India started moving closer to the US and NATO countries, building stronger economic and strategic ties. That shift worked out pretty well for a while, and economically it’s still doing pretty solid overall.
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They really haven't. It's still being strategically neutral. They got the ge f414 deals done with US while still being able to get s400s and others from Russia
 
sithb said:
They really haven't. It's still being strategically neutral. They got the ge f414 deals done with US while still being able to get s400s and others from Russia
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Pakistan recently secured an F-16 maintenance deal while also purchasing Chinese made Jets and equipment.

Not a big deal.
 
HalBass9 said:
India has no role to play in this matter other than mediating, which Pakistan is currently doing and has been accepted by the relevant parties. So, no, there is no point in India extending an invitation, nor has Iran asked India to intervene.
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India doesn't even want to intervene.
 
sithb said:
I'm just looking at the reality when these talks fail. I do think they fail even if Pakistan go in with this with the best of intents. Fwiw, it looks like they are failing.

I'm never the guy who does the klopp emote. And I'll never be the guy who rubs this on in the geopolitical sense.
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Do you genuinely want peace? If so, why focus on minor issues instead of the bigger picture? I see you as a thoughtful voice here, not in the same category as @Devadwal and @globetrotter. :inti
 
Iranians came to Pakistan to show respect to us because there is a lot of pressure on them from world community to show respect to us for everything we have done for world peace.

Having said that, they need to be more flexible. We have spent a lot of money and efforts on this and we have put a lot at stake. Ideally we must get a few years of heavily discounted oil and gas for this gesture.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Iranians came to Pakistan to show respect to us because there is a lot of pressure on them from world community to show respect to us for everything we have done for world peace.

Having said that, they need to be more flexible. We have spent a lot of money and efforts on this and we have put a lot at stake. Ideally we must get a few years of heavily discounted oil and gas for this gesture.
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Via Balouchistan
 
Rajdeep said:
Its over folks....OVER.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2048077857205649716


:sree :kp
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It’s not our fault that American leadership has zero credibility.

Iranians came to Pakistan in honour of Islamabad not for Trump. They came here to pay homage to Pakistani people and show respect to our country for everything we have done for Iran. For this we Iranians will always be grateful to Pakistan my homeland.
 
Why would Iran believe the US would adhere to any deal when Trump not only blew up the JCPOA in 2018, but twice in the last twelve months upended talks to make war ?

Iran surely would want upfront guarantees that the US and Israel will not attack again.

No negotiation can succeed if one side demands the other party make all the concessions for nothing in return in a temporary arrangement that's likely to collapse.

The Mango Mussolini should park his ego for once and just restore the JCPOA.
 
HalBass9 said:
India would have had India could.
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Why would we ? What is there for us to gain. We don't need to extricate our name as imf or terrorist state . Countries line up for our market and size. We have our allies and we trade with Iran. Non alignment and balancing both sides are in our interest and we definitely don't want to intervene against Israel.
 
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straighttalk said:
Why would we ? What is there for us to gain. We don't need to extricate our name as imf or terrorist state . Countries line up for our market and size. We have our allies and we trade with Iran. Non alignment and balancing both sides are in our interest and we definitely don't want to intervene against Israel.
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How could India realistically intervene against Israel to bring about peace?

Why would trading stop for India if India were to mediate?

Bless us with your geniuses. Thank you!
 
CricVet said:
Per Grok:
Bottom line: This appears to be misleading content using an AI-generated (or repurposed/manipulated) video to push a narrative. It's not authentic footage of the described situation in Islamabad.

Try again!
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The desperation by the same mentally disturbed Indians is always hilarious.

Thankfully I would imagine quite a few Indians don’t care if it’s Pakistan or Switzerland conducting the ceasefire as well as the deal sticks. Definitely not all, but enough of them that are not as brainwashed as the ghise pitte anari we see here doing maatam whenever Pak is involved.
 
HalBass9 said:
How could India realistically intervene against Israel to bring about peace?

Why would trading stop for India if India were to mediate?

Bless us with your geniuses. Thank you!
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Why would we intervene .. thats the question... Not how? That's secondary...
Our only stake in this war is ensuring oil flows...which we can by dint of good relation with iran. Baki we have no stake in this hellish fight. You are right if we could we would but we don't have that level of relationship with Iran. As say turkey or China or Russia or moscow has.
 
Rajdeep said:
We all want peace but not Pakistan mediating it. They are only doing it so that they can use it as leverage next time when they do terrorism in India and expect daddy Amreeka to save them. Basically using these peace talks as protective shield against future Op Sindoors. You think we are blind to not see it? Any patriotic and sane thinking Indians will not support it. Cylinder, LPG etc are all excuses which obviously cant fool people like me.

Move the peace talk to Europe immidiately will be my suggestion. All Bharatis will stand strong behind then.
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Rajdeep you have insights of 10 year old emotional Boy

You dnt want Pak to succeed because it does nt sit well with BJP narrative of isolating Pakistan. This was lollipop given to Andbakhts

Ops Sindoor or terrorism has nothing to do with this because you claimed India is strategically Autonomous. So If USA is able to influence your War Goals , what does it say about your so called SA?

Pak's peace efforts have already succeeded because CF is holding till now. Deal can happen later
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Do not worry RajDeep

Pak is nt exactly looking to form any relationships with India either.
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TBH Pakistan's official line has always been 'Lets Talk' and India's is 'Terror and Talks cant go together'

I agree with India's stance. You seem to disagree on Pakistan's but that is not my headache. Take it up with your govt.

:kp
 
Rajdeep said:
TBH Pakistan's official line has always been 'Lets Talk' and India's is 'Terror and Talks cant go together'

I agree with India's stance. You seem to disagree on Pakistan's but that is not my headache. Take it up with your govt.

:kp
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Pakistan is peace loving country. Talks offer are still there without any pre conditions
 
Rajdeep said:
Shashi Tharoor ji is spitting facts

https://twitter.com/x/status/2048249924366856297

:kp
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Here's the thing. Pakistan knew where he was, America knew where he was, Mossad knew where he was, MI6 knew where he was. Russia and China knew as well. Pretty much all the key players knew - but they deliberately held out on the raid to kill him until they needed the boost before an election cycle in the US.
 
Rajdeep said:
We all want peace but not Pakistan mediating it.
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Many independent analysts have stated that it was the Americans who picked Pakistan for this role and not Pakistan who volunteered.

Who is the "we" by the way, do you think the average British, French, Chinese, Brazilian etc gives a flying quack how peace is achieved?

The only ones who have a problem with Pakistan mediating peace India - we all know why and it's not for the horse crap reasons you think.
 
Would like to thank Pakistan again for trying their best to bring peace to this world. Let's ignore those who oppose peace and focus on supporting dialogue, because through these talks, at least innocent lives are being spared. :inti
 
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Many independent analysts have stated that it was the Americans who picked Pakistan for this role and not Pakistan who volunteered.

Who is the "we" by the way, do you think the average British, French, Chinese, Brazilian etc gives a flying quack how peace is achieved?

The only ones who have a problem with Pakistan mediating peace India - we all know why and it's not for the horse crap reasons you think.
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We mean...we patriotic Bharatiyas. We dont want Pakistan brokering peace as we know their reality. Pakistanis would have objected same way if India was brokering these peace talks as well.
 
Rajdeep said:
TBH Pakistan's official line has always been 'Lets Talk' and India's is 'Terror and Talks cant go together'

I agree with India's stance. You seem to disagree on Pakistan's but that is not my headache. Take it up with your govt.

:kp
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but you like to come on terrorist forum to talk.
 
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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Would like to thank Pakistan again for trying their best to bring peace to this world. Let's ignore those who oppose peace and focus on supporting dialogue, because through these talks, at least innocent lives are being spared. :inti
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but @Rajdeep is a idiot who takes pleasure out of Iranian school children getting bombed he doesn't want to a see ceasefire between USA and IRAN.
 
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emranabbas said:
but @Rajdeep is a sadistic idiot who takes pleasure out of Iranian school children getting bombed he doesn't want to a see ceasefire between USA and IRAN.

I wouldn't be surprised if rajdeep has also visited the Epstein island that's how sick of an invidual he is.
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Raju wasn't always like this, he used to be a calm, sensible guy. But after falling into the wrong company, especially that "Jaipuri dehaati", his thinking seems to have gone downhill. He is becoming less humane in his approach, though there is still hope. Maybe one day he will realise the path he is on and choose differently. Until then, all we can say is, "Aa ab laut chalein", to @Rajdeep. :rabada2 :inti
 
When the war between US-Israel vs Iran broke.... many pak posters said it would be disastrous for India..... but nothing like that happened India. Its burnol moment for many.

On the contrary it will impacted on Pakistan if they not done ceasefire between parties
 
emranabbas said:
but @Rajdeep is a sadistic idiot who takes pleasure out of Iranian school children getting bombed he doesn't want to a see ceasefire between USA and IRAN.

I wouldn't be surprised if rajdeep has also visited the Epstein island that's how sick of an invidual he is.
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Says a guy who was rejoicing when Afghan hospital was bombed.:dw

These melodramas will not work with me. I am in total favour of peace and no innocent lives should be lost. However, I reject Pakistan brokering that peace. As I said, Pakistanis would have said view if India was hosting these peace talks. They secretly wished for its failure too. Its just that I say what is in my heart and dont pretend.

They should move peace talks to some other European countries and we all will unanimously support it.
 
Rajdeep said:
Says a guy who was rejoicing when Afghan hospital was bombed.:dw

These melodramas will not work with me. I am in total favour of peace and no innocent lives should be lost. However, I reject Pakistan brokering that peace. As I said, Pakistanis would have said view if India was hosting these peace talks. They secretly wished for its failure too. Its just that I say what is in my heart and dont pretend.

They should move peace talks to some other European countries and we all will unanimously support it.
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you still have to prove if it was a hospital or a terrorist camp where are the 400 bodies 🤣 🤣

stop lying you have been celebrating Iranian death and giving full support to your pitta shri Israel stop pretending to be a saint when your called out its all documented.

tu abhi tak ro raha hai teri bohat zayada jali that Pakistan are doing the peace talks and we are loving you meltdowns :cool:


European countries andthe rest ofthe world are happy for the peace talks to happen in islamabad its on the do kori ka india having a meltdown :afridi
 
Rajdeep said:
Says a guy who was rejoicing when Afghan hospital was bombed.:dw

These melodramas will not work with me. I am in total favour of peace and no innocent lives should be lost. However, I reject Pakistan brokering that peace. As I said, Pakistanis would have said view if India was hosting these peace talks. They secretly wished for its failure too. Its just that I say what is in my heart and dont pretend.

They should move peace talks to some other European countries and we all will unanimously support it.
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Why would Iranians trust European countries who have been at the forefront of sanctions to try to cripple the Iranian economy?

Iranians are proud people, they don't salute the former colonialists like the Indians do.
 
Very easy for internet trolls sitting in comfort in the West to wish these talks into failure for sake of cheap point scoring.

However if you're a farmer in Vietnam who needs fertiliser imported through the Strait of Hormuz to grow his crops, or a nurse in India who cannot afford the skyrocketing costs of fuel to drive to work, I suspect a positive outcome from the negotiations is pretty damn important regardless of who mediates it.
 
Markhor said:
Very easy for internet trolls sitting in comfort in the West to wish these talks into failure for sake of cheap point scoring.

However if you're a farmer in Vietnam who needs fertiliser imported through the Strait of Hormuz to grow his crops, or a nurse in India who cannot afford the skyrocketing costs of fuel to drive to work, I suspect a positive outcome from the negotiations is pretty damn important regardless of who mediates it.
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No if the mediator turns around and kills civilians becos they lost all reall wars of aggression in the past 70 years
 
Rajdeep said:
Shashi Tharoor ji is spitting facts

https://twitter.com/x/status/2048249924366856297

:kp
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West will never learn. They indeed have forgotten where Bin Laden was chilling in Pakistan in a mansion. They also forgot how Pak double crossed US and NATO in Afghanistan. It’s funny to see Trump cozy up with Pakistan just because Modi was buying cheap gas from Russia. He is also taking potshots at India just because India denied US role in the stopping of Operation Sindoor.

Clowns be clowning. 🤡
 
Champ_Pal said:
West will never learn. They indeed have forgotten where Bin Laden was chilling in Pakistan in a mansion. They also forgot how Pak double crossed US and NATO in Afghanistan. It’s funny to see Trump cozy up with Pakistan just because Modi was buying cheap gas from Russia. He is also taking potshots at India just because India denied US role in the stopping of Operation Sindoor.

Clowns be clowning. 🤡
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india is the clown here.. 🤡

India has been begging rest of the world to isolate Pakistan but know one wants to listen to india.

The onus is on India. If they’re serious, they should begin by boycotting Pakistani forums, then take it further by refusing to play cricket with Pakistan even in global tournaments. National pride shouldn’t be compromised for the sake of ICC events. And beyond that, they should also stop using Pakistan as a recurring theme in Bollywood just to generate money.

80% of your Indian population is obsessed with Pakistan that will take the figure down to around 30%

its the Indians who have hyped Pakistan and gave it recognition on the world stage.
 
Champ_Pal said:
West will never learn. They indeed have forgotten where Bin Laden was chilling in Pakistan in a mansion. They also forgot how Pak double crossed US and NATO in Afghanistan. It’s funny to see Trump cozy up with Pakistan just because Modi was buying cheap gas from Russia. He is also taking potshots at India just because India denied US role in the stopping of Operation Sindoor.

Clowns be clowning. 🤡
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Nah, the real clowns are the Hindutva crowd, pretending to be atheists while also acting like they have the memory of a Finding Nemo character.

The same West that once supported OBL and Al Qaeda, and then ISIS in Syria but not in Iraq, you can plug in almost any group, and at some point, the West has backed them or still does.

Double crossed? No, that’s just countries looking out for their own interests, something Hindutva folks love lecturing everyone about on a daily basis.

That’s geopolitics. But a Hindutva led government can’t, and likely won’t, understand that, because they’ve gotten high on their own narrative and started confusing it with actual foreign policy. Meanwhile, the world has moved on, and Pakistan’s geolocation is once again central to it.

You did get one thing right, though, the clowns are definitely clowning, and Hindutva seems to have mastered that art.
 
emranabbas said:
india is the clown here.. 🤡

India has been begging rest of the world to isolate Pakistan but know one wants to listen to india.

The onus is on India. If they’re serious, they should begin by boycotting Pakistani forums, then take it further by refusing to play cricket with Pakistan even in global tournaments. National pride shouldn’t be compromised for the sake of ICC events. And beyond that, they should also stop using Pakistan as a recurring theme in Bollywood just to generate money.

80% of your Indian population is obsessed with Pakistan that will take the figure down to around 30%

its the Indians who have hyped Pakistan and gave it recognition on the world stage.
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These clowns have convinced themselves that foreign policy and geopolitics are a zero sum game.

Just listen to their talking points, full of desperation, sounding bewildered as to why no one is buying their narrative, despite constantly reminding everyone that they’re the 6th largest economy.
 
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