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A man has been shot by armed officers in a "terrorist-related" incident in south London, the Met Police have said.

It is believed a number of people have been stabbed in the incident at Streatham High Road, police said.

Witnesses on social media have said they heard three gun shots fired just after 14:00 BST on Sunday and people were being treated by doctors.

Emergency services, including paramedics, are in attendance.

One person tweeted: "Something major happening in Streatham High Road. Armed police and roads closed off".

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-51349664
 
A number of people are believed to have been stabbed in Streatham, the Metropolitan Police says
Police say armed officers have shot a man
Witnesses said they heard three gun shots fired on Streatham High Road at just after 14:00 GMT on Sunday

The Met Police confirm that the man shot by armed officers is dead.

'Looks similar to recent attack'

Chris Phillips, the former head of the National Counter Terrorism Security Office, said the incident "looks very similar to what we saw on London Bridge just a few months ago".

"We can only hope that police have dealt with it fully now and that it's one person acting alone," he said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-51350195
 
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Several people have been stabbed in Streatham, south London, and a man has been shot dead by police, in what they describe as a "terrorist-related" incident.

Images on social media show a person face down on the ground outside Boots, with a police officer holding a gun next to a black BMW.

The person on the floor appears motionless.

Sky's home affairs correspondent Mark White said other photos appear to show him wearing something resembling a suicide vest.

Video shows plain-clothed armed officers approaching the body on Streatham High Road, before quickly pulling back.

Metropolitan Police said: "We believe there are two injured victims. We await updates on their conditions."

https://news.sky.com/story/man-shot-on-street-in-streatham-south-london-reports-11924768
 
Several people have been stabbed and a man has been shot dead by police in a "terrorist-related" incident in Streatham, south London.

Images on social media show a person face down on the ground outside Boots with a police officer holding a gun.

Witnesses describe a man with a "machete" and "silver canisters" on his chest being chased by armed officers before being shot.

Sky's home affairs correspondent Mark White said photos show him wearing something resembling a suicide vest - but that it's so far unclear if it was real.

Video shows plain-clothed armed officers approaching the body on Streatham High Road before quickly pulling back.

Police confirmed the attacker died in the incident, at around 2pm.

The force tweeted: "A man has been shot by armed officers in #Streatham... The circumstances are being assessed; the incident has been declared as terrorist-related."

"We believe there are two injured victims. We await updates on their conditions," the force added.

A witness described seeing a man with a machete and silver canisters being chased by armed police.

The 19-year-old student - who wanted to remain anonymous - said: "I was crossing the road when I saw a man with a machete and silver canisters on his chest being chased by what I assume was an undercover police officer - as they were in civilian clothing.

"The man was then shot. I think I heard three gun shots but I can't quite remember."

Another witness, Karker Tahir, told Sky News: "I saw this guy literally running on the pavement and behind him there were two or three police officers undercover with a gun.

"They kept telling him 'stop, stop'. But he didn't stop and then I saw that they shot him three times.

"It was horrible seeing it. The man was on the floor and it looked like he had something which police said may be a device.

"Police came to us and said 'you have to leave the shop because he has a bomb in his bag'.

"After shooting him they went to check on him while he was alive and then they found something - I believe there was a bomb or something - and they stepped back and told everybody to step back."

A shop owner, who also wanted to stay anonymous, said the man had taken a knife from one of the high street's shops before stabbing a man and a woman.

On social media, Dave Chawner tweeted to say he had stayed with one of the victims.

He posted: "I had to stay with someone who'd just been #stabbed in #Streatham for 30 minutes before a single ambulance arrived.

"I'm just over 1 mile from a hospital - I'm not having a go at anyone, but that's not right, I just hope he made it."

Metropolitan Police have urged people to avoid the area and London Ambulance Service said they had a "number of resources" at the scene.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson tweeted: "Thank you to all emergency services responding to the incident in Streatham, which the police have now declared as terrorism-related. My thoughts are with the injured and all those affected."

Nick Aldworth, former counter-terror national coordinator, told Sky News that police would be working urgently to establish whether it was a lone attacker or if others are involved.

https://news.sky.com/story/streatham-terror-attack-two-stabbed-and-man-shot-dead-in-london-11924768
 
Streatham terror attack: Suspect 'had silver canisters on his chest' before he was shot

A man has described how he saw a terror suspect with a machete and silver canisters on his chest being chased apparently by undercover police before he was shot dead.

It came after three people were injured in a stabbing attack in Streatham, south London.

A 19-year-old student from Streatham, who did not want to be named, said he witnessed the shooting on the high road in front of a shop.

He said: "I was crossing the road when I saw a man with a machete and silver canisters on his chest being chased by what I assume was an undercover police officer - as they were in civilian clothing.

"The man was then shot. I think I heard three gun shots but I can't quite remember.

"After that I ran into the library to get to safety. From the library I saw a load of ambulances and armed police officers arrive on the scene."

https://news.sky.com/story/streatha...ters-on-his-chest-before-he-was-shot-11924896
 
Metropolitan Police says the terror attack in Streatham in south London during which three people were injured is believed to be Islamist related.
 
Metropolitan Police says the terror attack in Streatham in south London during which three people were injured is believed to be Islamist related.

Same claim was made during the London bridge attack but I couldn’t see any proof, logic or definition that makes it an ‘islamist’ attack. If its just determined by the religion of the offender, than all other Knife attacks in London should be classified as ‘christian or whatever’ related.

Unless they (met police) can provide a solid proof of labelling it the way they do. Its all making things worse for the muslim community.

Its about time that Met Police and Media are taken to the court for defamation, if they cant explain what makes something ‘Islamist’ and where exactly is that link in ‘each particular incident’!
 
Same claim was made during the London bridge attack but I couldn’t see any proof, logic or definition that makes it an ‘islamist’ attack. If its just determined by the religion of the offender, than all other Knife attacks in London should be classified as ‘christian or whatever’ related.

Unless they (met police) can provide a solid proof of labelling it the way they do. Its all making things worse for the muslim community.

Its about time that Met Police and Media are taken to the court for defamation, if they cant explain what makes something ‘Islamist’ and where exactly is that link in ‘each particular incident’!

Couldn't agree more.
 
Streatham attacker had been released from jail
A man shot dead by police after he attacked people in south London had been recently released from prison after serving time for terror offences.

He was under active police surveillance at the time of the attack, which police believe to be an Islamist-related terrorist incident.

He had a hoax device strapped to his body, police said.

Three people were injured, with one person in a life-threatening condition.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the government would announce further plans for "fundamental changes to the system for dealing with those convicted of terrorism offences" on Monday.

Gunshots were heard on Streatham High Road just after 14:00 GMT on Sunday.

Reports suggest a man entered a shop and started stabbing people. It appears he then left the shop and stabbed a woman.

Witnesses reported hearing three gun shots and seeing a man lying on the ground outside a Boots pharmacy, as armed police approached and shouted at those nearby to move back.

The BBC's Daniel Sandford said the events appeared to unfold after witnesses saw an unmarked police car pull in front of another car near Streatham Common, forcing it to stop.

He said this could be linked to the subsequent stabbings and police shooting and it was possible somebody was stopped, before being followed by undercover officers.

London Ambulance Service said it treated the three people for injuries at the scene and all were taken to hospital.

Of the other two, one had minor injuries, believed to have been caused by glass following shots from the police firearm, and the third person's condition was not life-threatening.

In a statement, Deputy Assistant Commissioner Lucy D'Orsi said armed officers were in "immediate attendance" and shot a male suspect, as part of a "proactive Counter Terrorism operation".

The situation has been contained and officers from the Met's Counter Terrorism Command are now leading an investigation into the incident, she said.

Streatham High Road remains closed and a cordon is in place, with enhanced police patrols in the area.

Eyewitness Gjon Kathegjolli said he was in a barber shop when he heard a woman, who was with a baby in a push chair and two young boys, scream and saw her being stabbed.

A man then walked past carrying a knife the size of his forearm, he said.

Another eyewitness told the PA news agency: "I was crossing the road when I saw a man with a machete and silver canisters on his chest being chased by what I assume was an undercover police officer."

Daniel Gough said he was out for a run when he heard shots and everyone ran.

"There was panic, people were yelling," he said. "A young girl running alongside me kept asking 'Is this what I'm meant to do?' - she was very distressed.

"I saw a policeman and he yelled, telling everyone to get back. His gun was pointing in the direction of a man on the floor.

"Suddenly, more police appeared. There were [officers] everywhere".

Adam Blake, who was walking along Streatham Common, described how he saw two or three cars crash into each other, including an unmarked police car, as the incident unfolded.

"Another police car carried on towards the hill pursuing someone," he told the BBC.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51349664
 
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Sky News understands the man who carried out a terror attack in Streatham in south London was Sudesh Amman.
 
More info released by Guardian. Acc to which he does sound like a misguided youngster, who was jailed at 18yrs of age (while still at college). At this young age most teenagers are preparing for a life ahead and planing for career, studies etc.

God knows who and how do these youngsters get trapped into this extremist network.

Now having said, him being convicted earlier doesn’t necessarily mean that his motive again must have been ‘Islamist’ or Jihad related. He may well have been mentally ill (like the London bridge attacker).

In anycase, both angles need to be investigated properly.
 
Sudesh Mamoor Faraz Amman, family roots in Sri Lanka as per various reports.

BBC article from 2018:

London teen in court over terror offences

A London teenager has appeared in court charged with 10 terrorism offences.

Sudesh Mamoor Faraz Amman, 18, is accused of possessing documents including 'how to make a bomb in your kitchen.'

The defendant, of Brancker Road in Harrow, is also accused of sending an al-Qaeda magazine to members of a Whatsapp group.

He appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court after being charged by the Metropolitan Police.

Mr Amman spoke to confirm his personal details and indicated he would be pleading not guilty to all counts. He was remanded in custody to appear at the Old Bailey for a preliminary hearing on 8 June.

He is charged with seven counts of making records of information likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism, including 'Bloody Brazilian Knife Fighting Techniques' and 'making plastic explosives from bleach'.

He also faces three charges of disseminating terrorist publications on Whatsapp and Skype.

Armed officers assisted in the arrest of Mr Amman one week ago in a north London street.

Two others also detained during the same investigation - a 19-year-old woman arrested in south London and an 18-year-old man arrested in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire - have been released on bail to a police station next month.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44249486

He was inspired by IS back then as per articles, released recently. UK media covered him a lot in 2018, surely his reputation was known. Why are authorities in Western countries so lax in dealing with dangerous elements? Hope no one dies because of this.
 
Did the perpetrator say anything to suggest it was another so-called Islamist attack? I am also so confused now as to what is e terrorist attack and what a non-terrorist one?
 
Sky News understands the man who carried out a terror attack in Streatham in south London was Sudesh Amman.

A man shot dead by police after he stabbed people in south London had been released from prison in January.

Sudesh Amman, 20, was released around a week ago after serving half of his sentence of three years and four months for terror offences.

He was under active police surveillance at the time of the attack on Streatham High Road, which police believe to be an Islamist-related terrorist incident.

Three people were injured but none are in a life-threatening condition.

Scotland Yard said officers were searching addresses in south London and Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire.

"No arrests have been made and enquiries continue at pace," the Metropolitan Police said.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the government would announce further plans for "fundamental changes to the system for dealing with those convicted of terrorism offences" on Monday.

He said the government had moved quickly to introduce measures strengthening its response to terrorism, including longer prison sentences and more money for police, following the attack at Fishmongers Hall, near London Bridge, in November.

At the time of Amman's release there were concerns about the danger he might pose to the public but there were no legal mechanisms to keep him in prison, BBC political correspondent Chris Mason said.

Given November's attack also involved a convicted terrorist released mid-way through his sentence, our correspondent said there is "a desperate desire" within government to be seen to be acting quickly.

Gunshots were heard on Streatham High Road just after 14:00 GMT on Sunday.

Reports suggest Amman entered a shop and started stabbing people. It appears he then left the shop and stabbed a woman.

Witnesses reported hearing three gunshots and seeing a man lying on the ground outside a Boots pharmacy, as armed police approached and shouted at those nearby to move back.

The Met Police said armed officers - who were part of a "proactive counter-terrorism operation" following the suspect on foot - were in "immediate attendance".

The man had a hoax device strapped to his body, police said.

The BBC's Daniel Sandford said the events appeared to unfold after witnesses saw an unmarked police car pull in front of another car near Streatham Common, forcing it to stop.

London Ambulance Service said it treated the three people for injuries at the scene and all were taken to hospital.

A man in his 40s was initially considered to be in a life-threatening condition but this is no longer the case.

A woman in her 50s whose injuries were not life-threatening has been discharged from hospital.

Another woman in her 20s continues to receive hospital treatment for minor injuries, believed to have been caused by glass following shots from the police.

Officers from the Met's Counter Terrorism Command are leading an investigation into the incident.

Streatham High Road remains closed and a cordon is in place, with enhanced police patrols in the area.


Who was Sudesh Amman?
By BBC home affairs reporter Daniel De Simone

Sudesh Amman pleaded guilty in November 2018 to six charges of possessing documents containing terrorist information and seven of disseminating terrorist publications.

One of the manuals Amman admitted owning was "Bloody Brazilian Knife Fightin' Techniques".

He was jailed at the Old Bailey the following month for three years and four months.

I was there and recall Amman smiling as he was sentenced.

Amman was first arrested in north London in May 2018 by armed officers on suspicion of planning a terrorist attack.

Eyewitness Gjon Kathegjolli said he was in a barber shop when he heard a woman, who was with a baby in a push chair and two young boys, scream and saw her being stabbed.

A man then walked past carrying a knife the size of his forearm, he said.

Daniel Gough said he was out for a run when he heard shots and everyone ran.

"There was panic, people were yelling," he said. "A young girl running alongside me kept asking 'Is this what I'm meant to do?' - she was very distressed.

"I saw a policeman and he yelled, telling everyone to get back. His gun was pointing in the direction of a man on the floor."

Adam Blake, who was walking along Streatham Common, described how he saw two or three cars crash into each other, including an unmarked police car, as the incident unfolded.

"Another police car carried on towards the hill pursuing someone," he told the BBC.

Home Secretary Priti Patel said the attacker had "some clear history in relation to counter-terrorism offences".

"It's right that these individuals are kept behind bars and we need to stop their early release from prison," she said.

 
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Morning police raids after Streatham terrorist attack
Police search residential properties in south London and Bishop's Stortford after a knife attacker injured two people.

Skynews.
 
A couple of things I find confusing about how this incident unfolded.

Firstly, as with the Usman Khan attack last year, what is the point of wearing fake suicide vests? It's been suggested that it's so these guys can achieve shahadat ( martyrdom) by forcing police to shoot them. I guess that kind of makes sense, although a real suicide vest would surely be a lot more effective if the aim was maximum number of kills.

Secondly, he supposedly grabbed a knife from near the till in the shop he was in, then ran outside looking for people to stab after tearing off the packaging. Why not just buy the knife ( £3.99) and then knife people by surprise? As someone who supposedly had a manual at home of Brazilian knife wielding techniques, he seems to have been remarkably crap at it. All he did was create a commotion and alert police as early as possible so they could take him down before he could do too much damage, and thank God for that.

A genuine killer would be far more calculated in inflicting damage, such as the white nationalist in the Christchurch mosque massacre.
 
LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Boris Johnson will set out tougher rules for terror convicts after a man released early from a jail term for Islamist-related terrorism offences injured two people in a stabbing spree in south London.

Sudesh Amman, who was jailed in 2018 for “Islamist-related terrorism offences” but released half way through serving his 3-year sentence, was shot dead by police when he began stabbing people on a busy London street.

“We will announce further plans for fundamental changes to the system for dealing with those convicted of terrorism offences,” Johnson said. “My thoughts are with the injured victims and their loved ones.”

British politicians have repeatedly called for tougher rules for terror suspects, calls that increased after a former convict killed two people and wounded three more before police shot him dead near London Bridge in November.

Johnson said that since that attack, the government had “moved quickly to introduce a package of measures to strengthen every element of our response to terrorism – including longer prison sentences and more money for the police.”

Sunday’s attacker, Amman, had been jailed for promoting violent Islamist material and had even encouraged his girlfriend to behead her parents. He was under surveillance at the time of the attack.

In November 2018 he pleaded guilty to possession of terrorist documents and disseminating terrorist publications, and the following month he was sentenced to more than three years in prison.

He was 17 and living at home with his mother and younger siblings when he first began committing terrorism offences, according to authorities. Police became aware of his activities in April 2018 and he was arrested by armed officers in a north London street a month later.

When officers examined his computers and phone, they found he had downloaded material about making explosives and carrying out terrorist attacks, according to prosecutors.

Messages showed that he had discussed with his family, friends and girlfriend his extreme views and desire to carry out an attack, often focused on using a knife, prosecutors said.

In December 2017 Amman posted a picture of Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who was killed during a U.S. raid in Syria in October, and told his brother in a message that “the Islamic State is here to stay.”

He also described Yazidi women as slaves and said the Koran made it permissible to rape them, and in another message he encouraged his girlfriend to behead her parents.

Police said he had shared an online al-Qaeda magazine with his family and while in a discussion about school with a sibling he wrote he would “rather blow myself up”.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...icts-after-latest-london-attack-idUSKBN1ZX0NV
 
Streatham attacker had been released from jail
A man shot dead by police after he attacked people in south London had been recently released from prison after serving time for terror offences.

He was under active police surveillance at the time of the attack, which police believe to be an Islamist-related terrorist incident.

He had a hoax device strapped to his body, police said.

Three people were injured, with one person in a life-threatening condition.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the government would announce further plans for "fundamental changes to the system for dealing with those convicted of terrorism offences" on Monday.

Gunshots were heard on Streatham High Road just after 14:00 GMT on Sunday.

Reports suggest a man entered a shop and started stabbing people. It appears he then left the shop and stabbed a woman.

Witnesses reported hearing three gun shots and seeing a man lying on the ground outside a Boots pharmacy, as armed police approached and shouted at those nearby to move back.

The BBC's Daniel Sandford said the events appeared to unfold after witnesses saw an unmarked police car pull in front of another car near Streatham Common, forcing it to stop.

He said this could be linked to the subsequent stabbings and police shooting and it was possible somebody was stopped, before being followed by undercover officers.

London Ambulance Service said it treated the three people for injuries at the scene and all were taken to hospital.

Of the other two, one had minor injuries, believed to have been caused by glass following shots from the police firearm, and the third person's condition was not life-threatening.

In a statement, Deputy Assistant Commissioner Lucy D'Orsi said armed officers were in "immediate attendance" and shot a male suspect, as part of a "proactive Counter Terrorism operation".

The situation has been contained and officers from the Met's Counter Terrorism Command are now leading an investigation into the incident, she said.

Streatham High Road remains closed and a cordon is in place, with enhanced police patrols in the area.

Eyewitness Gjon Kathegjolli said he was in a barber shop when he heard a woman, who was with a baby in a push chair and two young boys, scream and saw her being stabbed.

A man then walked past carrying a knife the size of his forearm, he said.

Another eyewitness told the PA news agency: "I was crossing the road when I saw a man with a machete and silver canisters on his chest being chased by what I assume was an undercover police officer."

Daniel Gough said he was out for a run when he heard shots and everyone ran.

"There was panic, people were yelling," he said. "A young girl running alongside me kept asking 'Is this what I'm meant to do?' - she was very distressed.

"I saw a policeman and he yelled, telling everyone to get back. His gun was pointing in the direction of a man on the floor.

"Suddenly, more police appeared. There were [officers] everywhere".

Adam Blake, who was walking along Streatham Common, described how he saw two or three cars crash into each other, including an unmarked police car, as the incident unfolded.

"Another police car carried on towards the hill pursuing someone," he told the BBC.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51349664

Surprise surprise
 
Same claim was made during the London bridge attack but I couldn’t see any proof, logic or definition that makes it an ‘islamist’ attack. If its just determined by the religion of the offender, than all other Knife attacks in London should be classified as ‘christian or whatever’ related.

Unless they (met police) can provide a solid proof of labelling it the way they do. Its all making things worse for the muslim community.

Its about time that Met Police and Media are taken to the court for defamation, if they cant explain what makes something ‘Islamist’ and where exactly is that link in ‘each particular incident’!

You can't defame a religion. You can only defame individuals or corporate entities.

ISIL claimed responsibility for the London Bridge attack. One attacker was a member of the banned al-Muhajiroon, the militant Salafist jihadist group. That sounds 'Islamist' to me.

So perhaps the attackers made it worse for the Muslim community?
 
More info released by Guardian. Acc to which he does sound like a misguided youngster, who was jailed at 18yrs of age (while still at college). At this young age most teenagers are preparing for a life ahead and planing for career, studies etc.

God knows who and how do these youngsters get trapped into this extremist network.


Now having said, him being convicted earlier doesn’t necessarily mean that his motive again must have been ‘Islamist’ or Jihad related. He may well have been mentally ill (like the London bridge attacker).

In anycase, both angles need to be investigated properly.

Lack of meaning in their lives, lack of decent male role models. These guys have fairly blank personalities and cannot think for themselves. Often (not in every case) there is an absent father. Then need a strong set of rules to live by and can be easily groomed and programmed. I saw a documentary about two white reverts - both fatherless - who are now in jail for terror offences.
 
You can't defame a religion. You can only defame individuals or corporate entities.

ISIL claimed responsibility for the London Bridge attack. One attacker was a member of the banned al-Muhajiroon, the militant Salafist jihadist group. That sounds 'Islamist' to me.

So perhaps the attackers made it worse for the Muslim community?

Come on, those Organisations are always quick to claim responsibility for everything under the sun (that forwards their agenda). This doesnt make it a reality. If they are infact running such operations within UK, then our secret agencies and police are totally useless.

Also if you don't think that labelling everything dodgy ‘islamist’ and presenting it with a religious connotation doesn't happen, you are probably not watching the British media. Ofcourse they are following a certain agenda, which everyone knows about.
 
Police have been searching the hostel where the Streatham attacker is believed to have been living.

Sudesh Amman, 20, was shot dead by police on Streatham High Road after stabbing people in what police called an Islamist-related terrorist incident.

He had been released from prison about a week ago after serving half of a sentence for terror offences, and was under police surveillance.

Three people were injured but none is in a life-threatening condition.

Scotland Yard said officers were searching residential addresses in south London and Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire.

On Monday, officers were seen cordoning off a hostel in Streatham, where the manager said Amman had been living. They added: "I didn't have much to do with him.

"Everyone has their own rooms in there. The last time I saw him I was doing his radiator, setting up his heating on Friday. He didn't speak much."

The Met Police, whose Counter Terrorism Command officers are leading the investigation, said no arrests have been made and "inquiries continue at pace".

Mayor of London Sadiq Khan says there were about "70 plus" people convicted of terrorism offences who had been released, and called for reassurances from the government they are being "properly punished and reformed".

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said there was problems with the rehabilitation of those convicted of terrorist offences, saying: "It's very, very hard.

"It can happen but the instances of success are really very few, we have to be frank about that."

He said although new tougher laws on when terror offenders should be released were being brought in, the "difficulty is how to apply that retrospectively" for those currently serving sentences.

Streatham High Road remains closed and a cordon is in place, with enhanced police patrols in the area.

How did the attack unfold?
At about 14:00 GMT on Sunday, two people were stabbed on Streatham High Road, a busy street lined with shops.

Witnesses heard gunshots as armed officers, who had been following the attacker Amman on foot, shot him dead.

Amman had what appeared to be an explosive device strapped to his body, police said, which was later discovered to be a hoax.

Three people were taken to hospitals including the two stabbing victims - a woman in her 50s and a man in his 40s. The man was initially considered to be in a life-threatening, but it is no longer the case. The woman has been discharged.

Another woman in her 20s had minor injuries believed to have been caused by glass following the police gun shots. No details have emerged about the three.

Eyewitness Dave Chawner, who was on the way to the cinema, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme he heard the shots, which "I thought at that time was a car backfiring".

He then turned around to see one of the stab victims lying on the floor "who was incredibly distressed".

"He was holding his lower right quadrant and there was blood everywhere. I happened to have a blanket in my bag and I gave it to them to help stem the bleeding and I ran to the nearest crossroads to wave down the ambulance."

Who was the attacker?
Amman was released from prison in January, after serving half of his sentence of three years and four months.

He was jailed in December 2018 after pleading guilty to to six charges of possessing documents containing terrorist information and seven of disseminating terrorist publications, said BBC home affairs reporter Daniel De Simone.

One of the manuals Amman admitted owning was one about knife fighting.

Our reporter recalls Amman smiling as he was sentenced.

The Islamic State group has said Amman was a "fighter" of the group. This is the wording IS commonly uses in the case of attacks in the West that the group appears to have inspired rather than orchestrated.

At the time of Amman's release, there were concerns about the danger he might pose to the public but there were no legal mechanisms to keep him in prison, said BBC political correspondent Chris Mason.

Last November, an attack near London Bridge - in which two people died - was also carried out by a man convicted of terrorism offences but who had been released mid-way through his sentenced.

Streatham MP Bell Ribeiro-Addy said: "He [Amman] was under surveillance quite soon after being released which begs the question, why was he released so soon?"

London mayor Mr Khan also told BBC Breakfast: "What reassurance can I receive from the government that these people [convicted for terror offences] are properly being punished and reformed?

"Those that are out, I want to be reassured that the authorities have the resources and support that they need to ensure we are kept safe."

What has been the government's response?
Our correspondent Chris Mason said there was "a desperate desire" within government to be seen to be acting quickly.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Monday the government would announce further plans for "fundamental changes to the system for dealing with those convicted of terrorism offences".

Treasury minister Rishi Sunak said "the police are obviously doing absolutely everything they can to keep people safe".

He said new measures to toughen terrorism laws - already announced after the last attack - would give police "more powers and resources to do that as well".

The planned changes mean automatic early release from prison will be scrapped for terror offenders, and there would be a minimum jail term of 14 years for serious terror offences - although it is not yet clear what would be classed as "serious".

How many other people are in prison for terror offences?
Overall there were 224 people in prison for terror-related offences in Britain at the end of September. The majority are Islamist extremists (173), and there are also 38 far-right extremists.

Currently, most people convicted of terror acts receive less than a 10-year sentence and most will not serve all of it in jail.

For almost all prison sentences (terror-related or not), some of the time will be spent outside jail in order to allow some rehabilitation in the community.

The people in prison for terror offences
What issues has this attack raised?
There will be inevitable questions about the operation, says BBC home affairs correspondent Tom Symonds.

He said: "Counter-terrorist police and MI5 have about 3,000 so-called "subjects of interest" at any one time but a much smaller number are under round-the-clock surveillance because it takes a huge team of specialist officers to watch a suspect covertly.

"This means that preventing terrorism is all about taking difficult decisions. Which suspects should be watched? What level of risk do they pose and when is the best time to make an arrest, given the need to capture real evidence?

"Those decisions have become harder in recent years as would-be attackers are increasingly likely to act alone and to use low-tech weapons, sometimes on a whim."

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Lucy D'Orsi said armed officers were in "immediate attendance" after the attack
Meanwhile, former military intelligence officer Philip Ingram told BBC Radio 5 Live it was "right and proper" that the government should assess the laws in place.

"We're treating these terrorists as criminals. You have to ask the question as to whether some of them may not ever be able to be rehabilitated and, therefore, is the law we have at the moment right and proper to keep the public safe?"

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51356447
 
Daily Mail's headline: This is what terrorism looks like.

I got this forwarded by a friend as I dont read DM. I still remember when England won the WC, they focused on Adil Rashid and Moeen Ali escaping the champagne popping
 
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The mother of Streatham terrorist Sudesh Amman has told Sky News he was a "nice, polite boy" who was radicalised online and in prison - and revealed she spoke to him just hours before the attack.

Haleema Faraz Khan said her son seemed "normal" when she visited him at a bail hostel on Thursday and he called her before Sunday's attack asking her to make him some mutton biryani.

Amman was under police surveillance when he stabbed two people in south London while wearing a fake suicide vest before he was shot dead by officers.

The 20-year-old from Harrow, northwest London, had been released from prison in January after serving time for spreading extremist material.

In an interview with Sky News, Ms Khan said she could not believe her "polite and lovely boy" who was "always smiling" could carry out a terror attack.

Fighting back tears, she said she believed her son had become radicalised after watching Islamist material online and while in the high security jail Belmarsh.


"I spoke to him on the phone on Sunday," Ms Khan said.

"He said: 'Mum I want some biryani.... your mutton biryani'.

"He was fine when I went to see him.

"He became more religious inside prison, that's where I think he became radicalised.

"He was watching and listening to things online which brainwashed him.

"Before he went to prison he was not that religious. After he came out he was really religious.

"He was a polite, kind, lovely boy. He was always smiling.

"I'm so upset, he was only 20 years old."

Ms Khan, who is originally from Sri Lanka but lives in Dunstable, Bedfordshire, said when she first heard an attack had happened she "had a feeling" he was responsible because it was in south London.

"I saw it on the TV, that's when I knew it was him," she said.

"His name was there. That was the first time I heard.

"He didn't answer his phone, I tried to ring him [after the attack]."

Ms Khan said she wanted to bury her son quickly but his body has not yet been released.

Park High School in Stanmore, Harrow confirmed Amman attended between 2011 and 2016 and a former school friend told Sky News he had shown "no signs of extremism".

The man, who did not wish to be named, said: "It really is a shame that he has done such a tragic thing, as I believe that Sudesh really had potential to make it far in life."

The former friend said the last time he saw Amman was in 2018, adding: "I bumped into him, he seemed a little dazed, as if in a rush as far as I can remember. It really is a shame."

Amman was jailed for three years and four months in December 2018 for possessing and distributing terrorist documents.

Following his release from prison, he had been staying at a bail hostel in Streatham for the past two weeks after serving less than half of his sentence.

The Ministry of Justice has refused to reveal the date Amman was released but confirmed it was "in the past six weeks".

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the government will crack down on the early release of terrorist prisoners, although it is not clear how this will be applied to cases already in train.

It comes after convicted terrorist Usman Khan murdered two people despite being on probation at Fishmongers' Hall in the City of London in November.

"We are bringing forward legislation to stop the system of automatic early release," Mr Johnson said.

"The difficulty is how to apply retrospectively to the cohort of people who currently qualify.

"It is time to take action to ensure, irrespective of the law we are bringing in, people in the current stream don't qualify automatically for early release."

About 245 convicted terrorists were freed from jail between 2012 and 2019.

London Mayor Sadiq Khan said more than 70 people who have been convicted of a terrorist offence and served time in prison have been released in the capital.

Scotland Yard said armed officers were following Amman on foot as part of a "proactive counter-terrorism surveillance operation" in Streatham High Road.

A man in his 40s who was stabbed is no longer in a life-threatening condition, while a woman in her 50s who had non-life threatening injuries after being knifed has been discharged from hospital.

Police said a second woman, in her 20s, who suffered minor injuries believed to have been caused by glass following the discharge of a police firearm, continues to receive treatment.

https://news.sky.com/story/streatha...o-her-polite-boy-hours-before-attack-11925460
 
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This is crazy "He became more religious inside prison, that's where I think he became radicalised." When one become more religious they tend to hate the worldly comforts and do more good deed and help people. Well Some people get more religious and kill people.
 
The government will introduce emergency legislation to prevent terrorists from automatically being released from prison before serving all of their sentence.

Justice secretary Robert Buckland also said those jailed for terror offences will have to appear before the parole board before they can be released.

He made the announcement the day after Sudesh Amman, 20, was shot dead by police after stabbing two people in what is believed to have been an Islamist-inspired attack in Streatham, south London on Sunday afternoon.

Amman, from Harrow, northwest London, had been released from prison a week before the attack after serving time for spreading extremist material.

Mr Buckland confirmed he had automatically been released half way through his three years and four month sentence and had not had to go before a parole board.

Under the emergency legislation, terror prisoners, including ones currently in prison, will not be allowed to be released until they have served two thirds of their sentence and not until the parole board has agreed.

"Yesterday's appalling incident makes the case plainly for immediate action," Mr Buckland told the House of Commons on Monday afternoon.

"We will therefore introduce emergency legislation to ensure an end to terrorist offenders getting released automatically having served half of their sentence with no check or review."

He added that the parole board will be given strengthened functions "to deal even more effectively with the specific risk that terrorists pose to public safety".

Mr Buckland also said the government will review whether current maximum penalties and frameworks for terror offenders are "appropriate".

He referred to November's terror attack at Fishmongers' Hall by London Bridge when five people were stabbed, two fatally, by Usman Khan.

Khan had automatically been released from prison in 2018 after serving half a sentence for helping to establish a terrorist camp on his family's land in Kashmir and plotting to bomb the London Stock Exchange.

Following that attack, the government proposed a new counter terrorism bill which would ensure those convicted of serious terror offences would spend a minimum of 14 years in jail, lie detector tests for offenders would be introduced and the number of counter-terrorism probation officers would be doubled.

Mr Buckland said a man in his 40s who was stabbed in the Streatham attack is recovering well after fighting for his life and a woman in her 50s, a teacher at a nearby school, was discharged from hospital after receiving non-life threatening injuries.

He said a woman in her 20s who was hurt by glass remains as police shot Amman is still in hospital but recovering.
Shadow justice secretary Richard Burgon said Labour would consider the government's proposals after criticising its cuts to the justice system over the past decade.

He said his party would only look at the proposals "because our priority must be to keep the public safe".

"The Government cannot use sentencing as a way of distracting from their record of bringing the criminal justice system to breaking point," he added.

https://news.sky.com/story/emergency-legislation-to-end-early-release-of-terrorists-11925700
 
Sudesh Amman: Who was the Streatham attacker?
Sudesh Amman, the 20-year-old responsible for the attack in Streatham, south London, on Sunday, pleaded guilty in November 2018 to six charges of possessing documents containing terrorist information and seven of disseminating terrorist publications.

Three of the terrorist manuals Amman admitted owning were about knife fighting.

In fact, much of Amman's fascination with conducting an attack was said to be focused on using a knife.

He was jailed at the Old Bailey the following month for three years and four months.

I was there and recall Amman smiling as he was sentenced.

He was automatically released from HMP Belmarsh on 23 January 2020 after serving half of his sentence in custody.

It is understood that he had since been living at a bail hostel in south London.

He was under a curfew and had to wear a GPS tag, coupled with exclusion zones such as ports and airports. He had to surrender his passport and had limited access to electronic devices and restrictions on his internet use

First arrest
Amman was first arrested in north London in May 2018 by armed officers on suspicion of planning a terrorist attack, although he was not ultimately charged with doing so. Scotland Yard said that, following consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service, "we did not charge with this offence."

The prosecution of Amman related instead to his ownership and distribution of terrorist propaganda and instructional manuals.

At the time, he was living in Harrow and studying science and maths at the nearby North West London College. Prior to that, Amman had studied at Park High School between 2011 and 2016.

He came to the attention of counter-terrorism police in April 2018 when a Dutch blogger made officers aware of postings on the Telegram messaging app.

Police enquiries showed the user of the relevant Telegram account was Amman and a decision was taken to arrest him.

Amman had elsewhere written of how he was thinking of conducting a terror attack in north London and that he had conducted reconnaissance.

Detectives discovered that the student was using a WhatsApp group to exposing young members of his family to violent terrorist material.

He used it to share an al-Qaeda magazine and exclaimed "the Islamic State is here to stay".

'Die as martyr'
In messages to her, Amman said he had pledged allegiance to Islamic State and wished to carry out acid attacks.

Elsewhere, he asked if he could have a knife delivered to her address and told her he considered Isis to be the best thing to happen to Islam.

He wrote that he preferred the idea of a knife attack over the use of bombs and discussed whether he would stand his ground if police came to arrest him.

In a notebook - in which he had made notes on explosives and detonators - he had written notes on his "goals in life". These included: "Die as a shuhada" (martyr) and go to '"jannah" (paradise).

Before he was jailed Amman had previous convictions for possession of an offensive weapon - a broken bottle - and cannabis.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51351885
 
Many of these killers are radicalised in prison,so Why not put them into isolation units? Why are they allowed anywhere near the other losers in prison. I am just praying no one dies after this horrible incident.
 
The father of Streatham terrorist Sudesh Amman has told Sky News he spoke to his son a day before the attack and told him "not to be naughty".

Faraz Khan, who left the UK three months ago, said he learned about his son's death through a cousin who messaged him.

Amman was under police surveillance when he stabbed two people in south London while wearing a fake suicide vest before he was shot dead by officers.

How to police track terror suspects?

"I spoke to Sudesh one day before he passed away. I didn't know he had become radicalised," said Mr Khan.

He said his son spoke to him about religion and Islam: "He was reciting the Quran to me and he was translating that to me.

"He's never spoken to me about these kind of things. He would never talk to me about naughty things.

"I heard they found a lot of things and I saw them on the news, but I never thought he would go this far"

Mr Khan said he had "nothing bad to say about him" and described Amman as "a very calm and very good boy".

"He got angry," he laughed. "Nothing else."

Amman was jailed for three years and four months at the Old Bailey in central London in December 2018 for possessing and distributing terrorist documents.

The 20-year-old from Harrow, northwest London, was released from prison on 23 January after serving time for spreading extremist material.

He had been staying at a bail hostel near the south London area of Streatham where he carried out Sunday's attack.

Mr Khan said he never visited his son when he was in prison, and was "shocked" when he found out about the stabbings.

"He never talked to me about things like that. He said when his mother came to see him she brought him food - that's the kind of things he talked about.

"I told him not to be naughty, be good, and he listened."
https://news.sky.com/story/streatham-terrorists-father-i-told-him-not-to-be-naughty-11926099
 
The father of Streatham terrorist Sudesh Amman has told Sky News he spoke to his son a day before the attack and told him "not to be naughty".

Faraz Khan, who left the UK three months ago, said he learned about his son's death through a cousin who messaged him.

Amman was under police surveillance when he stabbed two people in south London while wearing a fake suicide vest before he was shot dead by officers.

How to police track terror suspects?

"I spoke to Sudesh one day before he passed away. I didn't know he had become radicalised," said Mr Khan.

He said his son spoke to him about religion and Islam: "He was reciting the Quran to me and he was translating that to me.

"He's never spoken to me about these kind of things. He would never talk to me about naughty things.

"I heard they found a lot of things and I saw them on the news, but I never thought he would go this far"

Mr Khan said he had "nothing bad to say about him" and described Amman as "a very calm and very good boy".

"He got angry," he laughed. "Nothing else."

Amman was jailed for three years and four months at the Old Bailey in central London in December 2018 for possessing and distributing terrorist documents.

The 20-year-old from Harrow, northwest London, was released from prison on 23 January after serving time for spreading extremist material.

He had been staying at a bail hostel near the south London area of Streatham where he carried out Sunday's attack.

Mr Khan said he never visited his son when he was in prison, and was "shocked" when he found out about the stabbings.

"He never talked to me about things like that. He said when his mother came to see him she brought him food - that's the kind of things he talked about.

"I told him not to be naughty, be good, and he listened."
https://news.sky.com/story/streatham-terrorists-father-i-told-him-not-to-be-naughty-11926099

Then they wonder why people mock the desi accent.:facepalm:
 
Many of these killers are radicalised in prison,so Why not put them into isolation units? Why are they allowed anywhere near the other losers in prison. I am just praying no one dies after this horrible incident.

There is a deradicalisation programme in jails - all have an indentured iman to counter the jihadi narrative. The far right white supremacy narrative too.

But I understand that some of the indentured imams are from Saudi and have no real understanding of the problems young British Muslims face, and so they are ignored and some hardcase with a bit of knowledge of scripture becomes de facto imam for a prison wing.
 
There is a deradicalisation programme in jails - all have an indentured iman to counter the jihadi narrative. The far right white supremacy narrative too.

But I understand that some of the indentured imams are from Saudi and have no real understanding of the problems young British Muslims face, and so they are ignored and some hardcase with a bit of knowledge of scripture becomes de facto imam for a prison wing.

You can't monitor these losers all the time. Innocent lives are being lost, time for 30 year sentences as a starting point.
 
You can't monitor these losers all the time. Innocent lives are being lost, time for 30 year sentences as a starting point.

You would have to free up wing space then. Decriminalise cannabis, that would make much more room and there would be more resources for deprogramming / rehabilitation.
 
You would have to free up wing space then. Decriminalise cannabis, that would make much more room and there would be more resources for deprogramming / rehabilitation.

The war on drugs is lost, all drugs should be legalised and an education programme should be started about their dangers. The criminalisation of drugs isn't working. Legalise and tax.
 
The war on drugs is lost, all drugs should be legalised and an education programme should be started about their dangers. The criminalisation of drugs isn't working. Legalise and tax.

I concur.
 
Tbh not surprised by the saudi imams in prison who are designed to "deradicalise" these individuals but unfortunately in the process radicalise these youngsters with their poisonous ideology. The so called "war on terror" and depiction of muslims in the main-stream certainly doesn't help matters but a much wider issue has been wahabi and salafist ideology; their venom spreads like no other and history speaks for itself in this regard. Those with views which align more with Salafism generally tend to be extremely intolerant people and when it comes to any such attacks make no effort to dig a bit deeper, they get defensive with the how muslims are portrayed causing of all of this and while that plays a part they do more to in fact incite the hatred when there are more people who don't stereotype as much as they assume, now instead of getting their behinds extremely sore over various "bidah's" they should do more to address the intolerance in their community in general and also black-list hate preachers / imams from saudi especially.
 
The war on drugs is lost, all drugs should be legalised and an education programme should be started about their dangers. The criminalisation of drugs isn't working. Legalise and tax.

I’ve been saying this for years.

Education not prohibition is the key.
 
I’ve been saying this for years.

Education not prohibition is the key.

Drugs is such a big part of all society and not just the council house trash, that it's at the centre of virtually all criminal activities in some areas. The more recent county lines development is the product of widespread use of drugs and profits to be made. I see kids only talking about drugs and nothing else, the battle has been lost. Legalise and tax.
 
You can't monitor these losers all the time. Innocent lives are being lost, time for 30 year sentences as a starting point.

But how do you differentiate from the hardened terrorists and the harmless jokers? I was reading that one of those locked up with a 4 year sentence was someone who tweeted support for ISIS. You and I both know that if people were locked up for offensive tweets, then you would need to wall off an entire city to house all the felons ( maybe Sunderland).

This Sudesh guy was a well known threat, the police were already monitoring him, only thing is they had no power over the length of his sentence. Seems to me they should have made a better case beforehand that this was a dangerous individual. Although for reasons I already mentioned in this thread, he was nowhere near as dangerous as he could have been with even some minimal amount of planning and execution.
 
Streatham attacker Sudesh Amman managed to stab two people while under surveillance because the operations are not "man-to-man marking", Britain's top police chief has said.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Dame Cressida Dick admitted a time delay in responding would be "inevitable" if someone did something "totally unexpectedly".

Amman, 20, was jailed for possessing and distributing terrorist documents in December 2018, but was freed less than a fortnight ago and put under 24-hour police surveillance.

Wearing a fake suicide belt, he grabbed a knife from a shop in Streatham High Road, south London, on Sunday before stabbing two bystanders.

Dame Cressida said undercover officers shot and killed Amman within 60 seconds of the attack and said that 75 people were working to gather evidence.

The Daily Mail reported that up to 20 officers would have been involved in watching him.

"They are conducting covert surveillance, so they are not of course providing man-to-man marking. They are there covertly and that is a deliberate thing," Dame Cressida told the London Assembly on Wednesday.

"It is inevitable that there could be a time delay before somebody totally unexpectedly does something."

She added: "I wish I could assure the public that everybody who poses a risk on the streets could be subject to some sort of thing that would stop them being able to stab anybody ever, but it is clearly not possible."

The Independent Office for Police Conduct is investigating how Amman came to be fatally shot, as is standard when any police operation ends in a death.

Dame Cressida said there was no evidence his attack was directed by anyone else.

The government is pressing ahead with plans for emergency laws to keep terrorists behind bars for longer, by ending automatic release halfway through a sentence.

There are 224 terrorists in prison in Britain, with most thought to be holding Islamist extremist views, according to the latest published figures to the end of September.

As many as 50 terrorists could be freed from jail this year, figures suggest.

https://news.sky.com/story/streatha...-man-marking-sudesh-amman-met-police-11926801
 
So many incidents happening in areas that are close to where I live. The East Croydon stabbing and now this. Scary times!
 
London, United Kingdom - Following two recent attacks in London by convicts who had been let out of jail early, the government has promised to amend early prison release rules for "terror" offenders.

Currently, a prisoner serving a determinate sentence is normally released automatically halfway through their sentence. If their sentence is longer than one year, they would be released on probation.

But emergency legislation, which the government hopes to introduce in days, would mean "terror" offenders would not be considered for early release before serving at least two-thirds of a sentence. They would then be assessed by the Parole Board and if judged to still pose a threat to society, would remain in prison.

On Sunday, 20-year-old Sudesh Amman, who had been serving a three-year sentence for the possession and distribution of terrorist material, carried out a stabbing attack in Streatham, south London, while wearing a fake suicide vest.

He had been released from prison a week earlier and was under 24-hour police surveillance.

The attack resulted in police killing Amman after he injured three people.

In November, 28-year-old Usman Khan killed two people in a stabbing attack at London Bridge.

He was also wearing a fake suicide vest and was also shot to death by police. He had been released earlier in the year having served half his sentence over a failed bomb plot.

ISIL claimed responsibility for both attacks.

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Monday, a day after the violence in Streatham: "The idea of automatic early release for people who obviously continue to pose a threat to the public has come to the end of its useful life."

Those already jailed could see their sentences changed retrospectively to deny them early release, Johnson said, a move that would likely be challenged by legal experts.

On the same day, Justice Secretary Robert Buckland told parliament: "Automatic half-way release is simply not right in all cases."

He promised longer and tougher sentences for "serious terrorist offenders" while keeping the "worst" locked up for a mandatory minimum 14-year term. Prisons would be overhauled under the plan and probation would involve tougher monitoring including lie detector tests.

The government would also double the number of counter-terrorism probation officers.

But rights groups and experts have condemned the plan as an ineffective solution that does little to increase public safety and risks harming civil liberties.

Clare Collier, Liberty advocacy director, said: "The government’s response to recent terror attacks is a cause of increasing concern for our civil liberties.

"From last month's knee-jerk lie detector proposal [to] the threat to change people's sentences retrospectively which risks breaking the law, continuing to introduce measures without review or evidence is dangerous and will create more problems than it solves.

"It's clear the UK's counter-terror system is in chaos and desperately needs proper scrutiny and review."

There are currently about 200 "terror" convicts in UK prisons who could be affected by the changes.

Other critics said extending prison time would have a limited effect on "deradicalising" convicts.

Benjamin Ward, UK director at Human Rights Watch, told Al Jazeera: "Whether someone serves the full duration of their sentence or a portion, at some point they will be released. The key to this is about deradicalisation, looking at what's happening in prisons."

PM Johnson himself acknowledged the UK's deradicalisation system had problems, telling reporters on Monday the "instances of success are very few", while specifically referring to "people who succumb to Islamism".

Experts warned the new rules could create a two-tiered, discriminatory prison system in which Muslims are treated differently.

"Ceasing automatic release for one group of offenders in light of a small number of cases where such offenders have gone on to reoffend creates an unfair and biased system for both offenders and victims," Mandeep Dhami, professor at Middlesex University London, who has worked in two British prisons and studied mediation in prison settings, told Al Jazeera.

Describing the UK government's response to tackling "extremism" as "woefully inadequate", she added: "There are other groups of offenders who also reoffend after automatic release and their victims should ask why the government does not wish to protect them from violent crime.

"Similarly, creating a system that appears to favour some offenders will only serve to further alienate those people who feel disenfranchised and who may be drawn to extremist ideologies that point to systemic social biases."

As well as Johnson, Michael Gove, a senior cabinet minister, said in an interview with Sky News on Tuesday: "There is a big difference between those people who are Islamist extremist terrorists and those convicted of other offences."

Regarding the attempt to apply new rules retrospectively, Chris Allen, associate professor in the Centre for Hate Studies at the University of Leicester, told Al Jazeera: "Undermining the rule of law has the very real potential to feed into extremist narratives that suggest that Britain - and 'the West' more broadly - is against Muslims and the religion of Islam.

"While the introduction of emergency measures that seek to retrospectively rewrite the terms and conditions of existing convictions is worrying, even more so is the potential for the construction of a two-tier criminal justice system where terror-related convictions become demarcated and disproportionately dealt with in comparison to other similar crimes."

Meanwhile, there is a growing far-right threat in the UK.

In September last year, Neil Basu, the UK head of counter-terrorism, said far-right "terrorism" was the fastest-growing problem, as he reported several foiled plots - some of which were designed to kill people.

"For more than a decade, the government's counter-extremism and counter-extremism strategies have been widely criticised as disproportionately targeting Muslims and their communities," said Allen.

"While the growing threat of the extreme right wing has, in recent years at least, helped push back on some of those criticisms, stating - and more importantly, acting on the basis that Islamist extremists or terrorists are now worse than other extremists ... will hand a victory to the extremists who seek to divide us."

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...arly-prison-release-rule-200204094001147.html
 
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An inquest has been shown CCTV footage of the Streatham terrorist armed with a knife moments before he was shot dead by police.

The jury were told that officers had around half a second to react as Sudesh Amman ran at them with the kitchen knife.

n the 62 seconds before the shooting, Amman stabbed two passers-by after grabbing a blade from the display of the Low Cost hardware store in Streatham High Road, south London, on 2 February 2020.

Amman, 20, from Queensbury, north London, had been released from HMP Belmarsh 10 days earlier having served half of a 40-month sentence for obtaining and distributing material for terrorist purposes.

He had boasted in prison that he had a "strong desire to go to the afterlife" and had openly shared a desire to kill the Queen, become a suicide bomber and join ISIS.

Jonathan Hough QC, for the coroner, took the jury through CCTV that showed Amman leaving his probation hostel at 1.22pm on 2 February, smiling and talking to a member of staff before walking across the back yard.

Wearing a camouflage jacket with a red hood, a beanie hat, and a black tunic over grey jogging bottoms, he arrived in Streatham High Road at 1.47pm, followed by a nine-member surveillance team.

Police feared attack by Streatham terrorist Sudesh Amman was matter of 'when, not if' in the weeks before rampage, inquest told
Footage from inside a Holland and Barrett store at 1.58pm showed two undercover officers with their arms up, holding Glock handguns in the firing position as they pursued Amman.

Worried pedestrians ran into a Boots store and seconds later Amman was seen running at full speed towards two officers - referred to as BX87 and BX75 - before falling to the ground.

"Sudesh Aman moved towards them with the knife held out in his right hand, closing an already short distance between them," Mr Hough said.

The senior officer in the team, referred to as BX113, pulled out of a side street in a grey Audi SUV with his lights flashing and siren on as BX87 moved forward to kick the knife out of the way, the hearing was told.

"He falls to the ground when he is struck by bullets," Mr Hough said.

"As he lies on the floor, he is initially waving his arms and his legs, apparently wildly, and then in smaller movements, before he lies motionless."

A passenger on the nearby 201 bus filmed as Amman's male victim was treated, lying on the ground outside Cash Converters.

Another officer then arrived in a black BMW and grabbed a medical bag from the boot to treat the victim shortly before a marked armed response vehicle attended with unformed firearms officers.

The three response officers, armed with Heckler and Koch carbines, approached with BX75 to check Amman and one of them said "He's got a vest" and then "Everyone move".

A CCTV camera near Boots then showed officers BX86 and BX89 warning members of the public to stay away.

At 2.46pm an explosives officer arrived, put on rubber gloves, but no helmet, and checked Amman, before cutting empty bottles covered in foil from a belt where he had attached them with brown packing tape.

The officer disappeared, then moved back in and patted down Amman's clothing before walking away at 3.15pm, leaving the body in a pool of blood on the pavement.

Four minutes later, two armed officers with helmets and a shield approached with two paramedics who turned Amman over and pronounced life extinct at 3.24pm.

Neil Sheldon QC, for the Metropolitan Police, said that when Amman turned on the officers he was around 8ft to 10ft away - then within half a second he was just 3ft from them.

"Does it follow that if the officer had hesitated for even a fraction of a second, Amman would have been on to him?" Mr Sheldon asked.

"Correct," DC Lorraine Simpson, who compiled the CCTV, replied.

The inquest at the Royal Courts of Justice continues.

SKY
 
A terrorist who went on a knife rampage in a busy shopping street was lawfully killed when he was shot dead by undercover surveillance officers, a jury has found.

Sudesh Amman, 20, from Queensbury, north London, had been released from Belmarsh jail 10 days earlier after serving half of a 40-month sentence for obtaining and distributing material for terrorist purposes.

The inquest jury at the Royal Courts of Justice said they felt an opportunity was missed to return Amman to prison - and prevent the attack - after he bought items used in his fake suicide belt days earlier.

He had laughed as he was sent to prison after being found with a combat knife and a jihadi flag at his home, and was found to be encouraging his girlfriend to kill her parents.

In prison, he boasted of a "strong desire to go to the afterlife" and openly shared his wish to kill the Queen, become a suicide bomber, and join Islamic State (IS).

He said he wished he had been involved in the killing of Fusilier Lee Rigby, who was executed with a knife in front of Woolwich barracks in May 2013.

Prison officers searched his cell just weeks before his release and found a pledge of allegiance to Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, the leader of IS, written out in Arabic.

A senior officer wrote to the prison governor of Belmarsh jail, asking if he could keep Amman in jail longer, but it was not possible.

Police and MI5 teams believed that Amman was "one of the most dangerous individuals" that they had investigated and it was a question of "when, not if" he would launch an attack.

Nevertheless, on 2 February last year, he grabbed a carving knife from a shop and stabbed two passers-by, one of them seriously, during his attack in south London.

He was shot dead by armed surveillance officers in front of Boots in Streatham High Road, 62 seconds after the attack began, when he turned and ran at the officers.

The inquest heard about three opportunities to stop the attack in the 10 days between his release and him carrying it out.

Rajiv Menon QC, for Amman's family, questioned an anonymous senior Scotland Yard officer called HA6, who said he had a "well thought-out plan to manage the risk".

Mr Menon said the plan was a "miserable failure".

Amman was under surveillance on Friday 31 January when he bought bottles of Iron Bru, Bacofoil and brown parcel tape in Poundland, which they rightly believed he might use to make a fake suicide vest.

He also went into the same Low Price Store in Streatham High Road, where he later grabbed the knife, and looked at a section of the shop with sharp knives before claiming he did not have any money.

MI5 and the police convened an emergency joint operations teams meeting that evening to decide what to do, but decided to leave him out on the streets.

They chose not to search his room in the probation hostel in the next two days, where they might have found his fake suicide vest, allowing them to arrest him and send him back to jail.

The probation service also decided that his suspicious behaviour was not enough to justify recalling him to prison for another 20 months to complete his sentence.

A third opportunity was missed when Amman, who was wearing a bulky coat, began acting oddly as he made his way towards Streatham High Road on the afternoon of Sunday 2 February, walking slowly, doubling back on himself.

The jury had been asked to reach conclusions on whether the probation service or police could have stopped the attack taking place.

They were asked whether the probation service should have taken steps on 31 January or 1 February to have Amman recalled to prison as a result of the purchases he had made, which "raised serious suspicion that he was intending to make a hoax suicide belt".

They were also asked whether the police investigation team ought to have asked to have Amman's probation hostel room searched following the purchases.

A last question asked whether Amman should have been stopped and searched by armed police officers on 2 February, between him leaving the hostel at 1.22pm and running out of the Low Price Store with a knife at 1.57pm.

Amman was not treated for his injuries because of the possible suicide vest, but he had suffered two significant gunshot injuries and they were not survivable, the jury was told.

They were directed to return a finding of lawful killing after one of the undercover officers, known as BX87, broke down giving evidence, saying he thought Amman was going to kill him.

Questions are now likely to be asked about whether Amman could have been separated from more serious terrorist offenders while in prison.

He was moved into the high security unit in Belmarsh jail, where he was seen "deep in conversation" with Ahmed Hassan, who tried to blow up a Tube train at Parsons Green in September 2017.

Other reports suggested he was mixing with terrorist prisoners including Hashem Abedi, the brother of the Manchester Arena bomber, who helped build the bomb that killed 22 people.

In a letter to his mother on 25 July, two months after his arrest, Amman wrote: "Why do I keep smiling? I never used to smile. Wallahi [I swear] it makes me tear up when I go to jummah prayers with all the brothers. It is such a beautiful experience, it's a blessing, you don't understand. I have never felt this amount of happiness in any mosque, hugging and salaaming [greeting] the brothers."

The case echoes that of Usman Khan, who stabbed to death two Cambridge University graduates at a prison rehabilitation conference at Fishmongers' Hall two months before the Streatham Attack.

Khan had failed to reform while in prison for planning to set up a terrorist training camp and had also mixed with serious offenders in jail.

He launched his attack 11 months after his release, after police failed to search his flat when suspicions were raised about his behaviour.

He was also wearing a fake suicide belt and was shot dead by police.

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