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Hello All,

I have been away from PP for a long time and am facing some dilemma in life, thought I’ll ask in here since we have many people from across the world who can help and share their experiences.

I am looking to move abroad and settle down as I am financially independent now and don’t really need to work anymore. I do have Australian TSS for 4 years which can be converted to PR in couple of years if I go there and work for 2 years. I don’t mind working, I enjoy it a lot so that’s not an issue. How is Australia as a country to settle down in?

Second option will be Portugal and Dubai which don’t have taxes yet on capital gain from crypto/stocks.
Portugal looks beautiful to visit but in long run I fear I’ll be like an outsider and language issues will occur.
Dubai is close to home and can come back to India anytime I want but the weather is bad and natural beauty of the country I don’t like.

Out of these 3 options can people share which one is the best and how your experience have been in these countries?

Any other suggestions for countries where an Indian passport holder can get long term visa easily if they are ready to invest good amount of money? Also the experience of living in that country if possible.

Thanks for reply.
 
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Hello All,

I have been away from PP for a long time and am facing some dilemma in life, thought I’ll ask in here since we have many people from across the world who can help and share their experiences.

I am looking to move abroad and settle down as I am financially independent now and don’t really need to work anymore. I do have Australian TSS for 4 years which can be converted to PR in couple of years if I go there and work for 2 years. I don’t mind working, I enjoy it a lot so that’s not an issue. How is Australia as a country to settle down in?

Second option will be Portugal and Dubai which don’t have taxes yet on capital gain from crypto/stocks.
Portugal looks beautiful to visit but in long run I fear I’ll be like an outsider and language issues will occur.
Dubai is close to home and can come back to India anytime I want but the weather is bad and natural beauty of the country I don’t like.

Out of these 3 options can people share which one is the best and how your experience have been in these countries?

Any other suggestions for countries where an Indian passport holder can get long term visa easily if they are ready to invest good amount of money? Also the experience of living in that country if possible.

Thanks for reply.

Settle down in Thailand or Singapore. They have incentives for people with enough means. Peaceful countries, nice weather and great social life.
 
Settle down in Thailand or Singapore. They have incentives for people with enough means. Peaceful countries, nice weather and great social life.

I love Thailand but my family doesn’t want to settle in Thailand.
Singapore is costly for housing, granted they don’t have capital gains taxes and the flat tax rate is low compared to other countries but cost of living is too high and buying property will cost a fortune which I would rather invest and grow further at the current moment.
But ya, if I do earn a ton of money in future Singapore would have been my first choice too.
 
I would say yes to thailand. Amazing country. Great expat lifestyle Singapore is boring as hell. And expensive. Dubai I would avoid . I love Portugal. But I Speak the language. Thailand man.
 
lisbon is gorgeous, and one of the cheaper cities in Europe. its got the fingerprints of various cultural influences on it, however, anything more than a few months, especially if your away from family and friends, and really far away might get boring. english skills arent that bad in lisbon, most people, and a lot of roaming europeans speak passable english.
 
Come to US if you can. Our legal immigration system sucks if you are coming from India, but the opportunities are limitless. The best country in the world.
 
Nothing wrong with India, just some Indians who created an atmosphere which I would prefer not to stay in with my family.

Really? You seem to be swimming in money, why not move to an affluent region of India where this atmosphere you speak of doesn’t occur? Or are you suggesting all of India has the same atmosphere?
 
Hope your troubles arent too serious.

If you have a family Dubai is the place. No crime, great restaurants, loads of things for the kids to do. Its a no brainer esp if you're Indian or Pakistani.

If single, Thailand is incredible, natural beauty, animals, beaches, islands, seafood, parties etc.

If you want the ultimate life and have enough money, a village in Britain. Apart from a corrupt, terrorist government and a backward Royal family, the UK is the greatest place to live.
 
If you are financially independent then usa Mamés no sense. Go somewhere where your money can buy more
 
Come to US if you can. Our legal immigration system sucks if you are coming from India, but the opportunities are limitless. The best country in the world.

I can’t US immigration is too tough. Can go to Canada though if I file a PR but might take a year and don’t really like the cold weather in Canada, might not be able to survive.
 
If you are financially independent then usa Mamés no sense. Go somewhere where your money can buy more

Unless you can spend on EB5, you will be stuck in the immigration cycle for decades if you are from India.
 
Hope your troubles arent too serious.

If you have a family Dubai is the place. No crime, great restaurants, loads of things for the kids to do. Its a no brainer esp if you're Indian or Pakistani.

If single, Thailand is incredible, natural beauty, animals, beaches, islands, seafood, parties etc.

If you want the ultimate life and have enough money, a village in Britain. Apart from a corrupt, terrorist government and a backward Royal family, the UK is the greatest place to live.


No troubles personally as such. Just the mindset is changing which I wouldn’t want my kids to grow in. Even normal working class people and friends have said things which they wouldn’t have few years ago, I guess 24*7 non stop subliminal propaganda takes its toll eventually.

I did stay in Windermere for a few weeks couple of months ago and went to highlands, Inverness. One of the most beautiful places I have ever visited, was like heaven on earth. From what I checked for permanent visa in UK I have to spend like 7-8 ml in business, I can’t afford that much money at this point of time. Then the capital gain taxes and normal taxes are also quite high. Plus they don’t have clear rules/regulations on crypto from which 60% of my income comes from.
 
Really? You seem to be swimming in money, why not move to an affluent region of India where this atmosphere you speak of doesn’t occur? Or are you suggesting all of India has the same atmosphere?

All my friends, family stay in Delhi. If I stay in India there is no point moving to some other place, I go around for holidays and stuff but that’s pretty much it. Plus I haven’t quit my job yet, so have to be in Delhi for that as well.
 
I would suggest thailand if u want east Asia. I stayed there for 6 months when I had my boy. My gf and I quit working for 2 years and traveled the world. 6 months in thailand were heaven. Absolute heaven. If you can afford private schools in Bangkok for kids then it’s a no brainer. I live in nyc and am American and I absolutely love it. But it’s f I was financially independent I would leave .
 
I would've said Canada but leftists are ruining it.

Canada was good before 2016. I don't recommend migrating to Canada till there is a leadership change.
 
No troubles personally as such. Just the mindset is changing which I wouldn’t want my kids to grow in. Even normal working class people and friends have said things which they wouldn’t have few years ago, I guess 24*7 non stop subliminal propaganda takes its toll eventually.

I did stay in Windermere for a few weeks couple of months ago and went to highlands, Inverness. One of the most beautiful places I have ever visited, was like heaven on earth. From what I checked for permanent visa in UK I have to spend like 7-8 ml in business, I can’t afford that much money at this point of time. Then the capital gain taxes and normal taxes are also quite high. Plus they don’t have clear rules/regulations on crypto from which 60% of my income comes from.

You may have also been to Fort William too then. British countryside is another level of living, the only issue is the weather in winter, the roads can be dodgy and going out can be cold. But in the summer, there is no place on Earth which can compare, one reason being the length of the days is very long. The villages here have the best schools, shops etc but yes are very expensive.

Crypto will be everywhere soon inc the UK, the digital £ is already in the planning. My advise would be to get a job here, they will issue a work permit and eventually you will get an indefinite stay visa.
 
All my friends, family stay in Delhi. If I stay in India there is no point moving to some other place, I go around for holidays and stuff but that’s pretty much it. Plus I haven’t quit my job yet, so have to be in Delhi for that as well.

Why is it no point to live in another place in India away from your friends and family in Delhi when you are prepared to move to another country to be away from your friends and family in Delhi?

Your first task is to find a job in the country you want to move to, assume the UK, because income from crypto is not a valid source of income in the West. Then you have to stick to your job for 5 years and ensure you are not sacked, or made redundant, and the company you work for sponsors you for the duration. This is tough as nails as the UK law on foreign workers was tightened post 2008. Now any UK company hiring an Indian immigrant must prove that the job was not suitable for any UK citizen candidates.

Your quick fire hope is to ask for a transfer within an Indian company that is present in the country you want to move to.
 
Probably pick Dubai bro. Its a decent enough place if you are young, you will be close to India and there is enough Indians in Dubai to never be completely homesick.

If you have money to stick down on property, Turkey will be a good shout too. Not the highest standard of living but you can get a Turkish passport if you 250k usd property.

Thailand etc seem ok for a shortish holiday hut it seems a crap place to be active unless you are drinking and just relaxing all day.

If you want to settle down and start a family a western country would be a good shout, but the cost of living is a bit high.
 
If your earnings from crypto are BIG, get in touch with a decent tax lawyer man they let you know how best to sort things if you want to live in the UK.

Plenty of options beyond finding a job lol

Just try and find a decent financial/tax planner.
 
Really? You seem to be swimming in money, why not move to an affluent region of India where this atmosphere you speak of doesn’t occur? Or are you suggesting all of India has the same atmosphere?

They elected a terrorist who was banned from western countries, you can only imagine the rest of the country does have the same febrile atmosphere. Talk is cheap for Indian patriots, actions spell out a different story.
 
I can’t US immigration is too tough. Can go to Canada though if I file a PR but might take a year and don’t really like the cold weather in Canada, might not be able to survive.

Then Australia is your best bet and after that NZ. Many Indians who found it difficult to get a Greencard in US moved to Australia. They liked it there and tell good things about Aussies.
 
lisbon is gorgeous, and one of the cheaper cities in Europe. its got the fingerprints of various cultural influences on it, however, anything more than a few months, especially if your away from family and friends, and really far away might get boring. english skills arent that bad in lisbon, most people, and a lot of roaming europeans speak passable english.

Honestly Portugal looks cleaner third world
 
Hope your troubles arent too serious.

If you have a family Dubai is the place. No crime, great restaurants, loads of things for the kids to do. Its a no brainer esp if you're Indian or Pakistani.

If single, Thailand is incredible, natural beauty, animals, beaches, islands, seafood, parties etc.

If you want the ultimate life and have enough money, a village in Britain. Apart from a corrupt, terrorist government and a backward Royal family, the UK is the greatest place to live.

Lol at last sentence
 
Then Australia is your best bet and after that NZ. Many Indians who found it difficult to get a Greencard in US moved to Australia. They liked it there and tell good things about Aussies.

Salaries and career progression are not in the same stratosphere
 
Lol at last sentence

While I do not agree with [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] comments on the Royal family, he is absolutely spot on about country life in the UK. It is second to none, and like him, I am also seeking life in the countryside. You have to experience it to believe it, and as a born and bred Londoner, London is overrated.

The UK country life is heaven; and this doesn't even include the UK CL scenery - which is breathtaking during every season of the year.
 
They elected a terrorist who was banned from western countries, you can only imagine the rest of the country does have the same febrile atmosphere. Talk is cheap for Indian patriots, actions spell out a different story.

Not any more. That wrong has been righted. Sometimes history does correct it’s blunders.
 
They elected a terrorist who was banned from western countries, you can only imagine the rest of the country does have the same febrile atmosphere. Talk is cheap for Indian patriots, actions spell out a different story.

100% spot on.

It is clear that despite India being the fastest growing economy in the world, the majority of Indians are desperate to flee India, and when topped up with the political situation, lead by Modi, who remains the only politician to ever be banned in the UK/USA, it is clear that life India is pure hype, regardless of which religion/cast one is.
 
100% spot on.

It is clear that despite India being the fastest growing economy in the world, the majority of Indians are desperate to flee India, and when topped up with the political situation, lead by Modi, who remains the only politician to ever be banned in the UK/USA, it is clear that life India is pure hype, regardless of which religion/cast one is.

India being the fastest growing economy in the world is better news for Brits than it is for Indians. It's a huge and fertile market which we can certainly milk long into the future. The English language is a growing influence among more affluent Indians which gives us even more selling potential. Can't really blame govts for lifting the ban on their terrorist PM when there's so much capital to exploit.

When India looks like Japan rather than Bangladesh, then the rising superpower tag will mean something to the beleagured common Indian who can barely afford food and shelter. Until then, we will get more Indian patriots looking to leave the country despite it's shining condition.
 
US hands down bro worth the wait, personally I would avoid Dubai but it’s your choice obviously.

Aus and US are best for Indian immigrants esp in Tech.

Both the countries also have so much to do outdoors and law and order is good as well.
Another reason is having multiple cities to move to, US and Aus have multiple areas to move to based on your liking.
 
India being the fastest growing economy in the world is better news for Brits than it is for Indians. It's a huge and fertile market which we can certainly milk long into the future. The English language is a growing influence among more affluent Indians which gives us even more selling potential. Can't really blame govts for lifting the ban on their terrorist PM when there's so much capital to exploit.

When India looks like Japan rather than Bangladesh, then the rising superpower tag will mean something to the beleagured common Indian who can barely afford food and shelter. Until then, we will get more Indian patriots looking to leave the country despite it's shining condition.

What will you (UK) sell though? Don’t confuse yourself with US/ Korea/Japan, if anything trade will be imbalanced due to IT.

Here is the trade imbalance you have with India:


https://www.apac-insider.com/uk-ind...-agreement-creates-huge-opportunity-for-smes/

The UK’s goods trade deficitwith India reached its widest ever gap in 2021 as imports reached arecord high while exports levels are witnessing a slower recovery after two years of decline.

The volume of goods exported from the UK to India returned to growth in2021 after two consecutive years of decline. A total of £4.7 billion worth of goods was exported to India through the year, up from £3.2 billion the previous year and broadly similar to 2019’s total (£4.6 billion), but still well short of the peak of £6.4 billion in 2011.

Imports however rebounded to record levels with £8.4 billion worth of goods travelling to the UK from India in 2021 – a similar volume of goods to 2019, but significantly higher than the pandemic-affected total of £6.1 billion in 2020.
 
What will you (UK) sell though? Don’t confuse yourself with US/ Korea/Japan, if anything trade will be imbalanced due to IT.

Here is the trade imbalance you have with India:


https://www.apac-insider.com/uk-ind...-agreement-creates-huge-opportunity-for-smes/

The UK’s goods trade deficitwith India reached its widest ever gap in 2021 as imports reached arecord high while exports levels are witnessing a slower recovery after two years of decline.

The volume of goods exported from the UK to India returned to growth in2021 after two consecutive years of decline. A total of £4.7 billion worth of goods was exported to India through the year, up from £3.2 billion the previous year and broadly similar to 2019’s total (£4.6 billion), but still well short of the peak of £6.4 billion in 2011.

Imports however rebounded to record levels with £8.4 billion worth of goods travelling to the UK from India in 2021 – a similar volume of goods to 2019, but significantly higher than the pandemic-affected total of £6.1 billion in 2020.

Meaningless stats to compare UK with India when UK is the top 3 destination for Indians who are prepared to flee India.

Clearly, it's not the UK economy Indians are attracted to.
 
Meaningless stats to compare UK with India when UK is the top 3 destination for Indians who are prepared to flee India.

Clearly, it's not the UK economy Indians are attracted to.

Ok So basically Indians are going to milk UK than the opposite, thanks for clarifying.
 
India being the fastest growing economy in the world is better news for Brits than it is for Indians. It's a huge and fertile market which we can certainly milk long into the future. The English language is a growing influence among more affluent Indians which gives us even more selling potential. Can't really blame govts for lifting the ban on their terrorist PM when there's so much capital to exploit.

When India looks like Japan rather than Bangladesh, then the rising superpower tag will mean something to the beleagured common Indian who can barely afford food and shelter. Until then, we will get more Indian patriots looking to leave the country despite it's shining condition.

Yup, Brits benefit from Indian economy, which is why Modi was begging the British HO to lift immigrant limits from India, and why Modi was removed from the immigrant ban list.

Brits are smart, they see the backend work based in India at a pittance, while reap the forefront in the UK.

The way I see it, Indians have more loyalty and affection towards the British, than India. This sums up incredible India in more ways than one.

Jewel in the crown 2.0.
 
What will you (UK) sell though? Don’t confuse yourself with US/ Korea/Japan, if anything trade will be imbalanced due to IT.

Here is the trade imbalance you have with India:


https://www.apac-insider.com/uk-ind...-agreement-creates-huge-opportunity-for-smes/

The UK’s goods trade deficitwith India reached its widest ever gap in 2021 as imports reached arecord high while exports levels are witnessing a slower recovery after two years of decline.

The volume of goods exported from the UK to India returned to growth in2021 after two consecutive years of decline. A total of £4.7 billion worth of goods was exported to India through the year, up from £3.2 billion the previous year and broadly similar to 2019’s total (£4.6 billion), but still well short of the peak of £6.4 billion in 2011.

Imports however rebounded to record levels with £8.4 billion worth of goods travelling to the UK from India in 2021 – a similar volume of goods to 2019, but significantly higher than the pandemic-affected total of £6.1 billion in 2020.

I was thinking more in terms of high value brands and media rather than cheap goods. British TV and cinema will grow in value as aspirational Indians look to emulate them, just as the English football Premier League has took the world by storm. British stars, British styles and British literature will only grab a more captive market among Indians eager to emulate the great British legacy to the world. That must be worth plenty.
 
Ok So basically Indians are going to milk UK than the opposite, thanks for clarifying.

So you admit your stats are meaningless.

You live in the USA, you are unaware of the ground realities in the UK.

UK ruled India, USA did not. Indian immigrants cannot milk the UK thanks to immigration limits, something Modi wanted to change but was sent empty handed back to incredible India.

You should be asking why are Indians are desperate to move to a country that ruled them for over 300 years, especially when India is the fastest growing economy.
 
I was thinking more in terms of high value brands and media rather than cheap goods. British TV and cinema will grow in value as aspirational Indians look to emulate them, just as the English football Premier League has took the world by storm. British stars, British styles and British literature will only grab a more captive market among Indians eager to emulate the great British legacy to the world. That must be worth plenty.

British TV and cinema? HBO and Netflix produces best British shows nowadays, so yeah it will go to American pocket.

British Literature and stars like who though?

Are you confusing yourself with Americans? Those are literally the things Americans are famous for nowadays ,that soft power is what America is famous for, British themselves are bowled over by American softpower, your best stars, directors everyone has come over to America.

More chance of South Indian cinema becoming big in UK than British stars.

The only thing England can export is EPL congratulations on that and guess what even that is with the help of American Company Disney.

British Legacy is wouldn't last in Britain itself due to Americans.
 
So you admit your stats are meaningless.

You live in the USA, you are unaware of the ground realities in the UK.

UK ruled India, USA did not. Indian immigrants cannot milk the UK thanks to immigration limits, something Modi wanted to change but was sent empty handed back to incredible India.

You should be asking why are Indians are desperate to move to a country that ruled them for over 300 years, especially when India is the fastest growing economy.

No I don't have to ask anything to anyone and agree to anything, you can carry on with ground realities of "UK".
 
In before anyone says it, immigrants from Subcontinent in 50s, 60s, 70s, 80, never claimed their Pakistan or India was the best/upcoming/richest/exemplary country with respect to secularism, pluralism, and economy - no, only India of this millennium claim all 3, yet Indians are desperate to flee India.
 
British TV and cinema? HBO and Netflix produces best British shows nowadays, so yeah it will go to American pocket.

British Literature and stars like who though?

Are you confusing yourself with Americans? Those are literally the things Americans are famous for nowadays ,that soft power is what America is famous for, British themselves are bowled over by American softpower, your best stars, directors everyone has come over to America.

More chance of South Indian cinema becoming big in UK than British stars.

The only thing England can export is EPL congratulations on that and guess what even that is with the help of American Company Disney.

British Legacy is wouldn't last in Britain itself due to Americans.

I wonder if you are even aware how many stars in the US are actually British? It's only growing, so much so that Americans themselves are complaining they are losing jobs and influence to incoming Brits. Americans can't get enough of British at the moment, you are seeing the stars in their eyes growing ever more numerous as movie hits like Churchill stir their inner English souls. The English language will always be our trump card around the world. Don't think that won't pay off in ways you can't even imagine.
 
US hands down bro worth the wait, personally I would avoid Dubai but it’s your choice obviously.

Aus and US are best for Indian immigrants esp in Tech.

Both the countries also have so much to do outdoors and law and order is good as well.
Another reason is having multiple cities to move to, US and Aus have multiple areas to move to based on your liking.

US is best to make money. But if money is there and just wanna enjoy life then there’s other option
 
British TV and cinema? HBO and Netflix produces best British shows nowadays, so yeah it will go to American pocket.

British Literature and stars like who though?

Are you confusing yourself with Americans? Those are literally the things Americans are famous for nowadays ,that soft power is what America is famous for, British themselves are bowled over by American softpower, your best stars, directors everyone has come over to America.

More chance of South Indian cinema becoming big in UK than British stars.

The only thing England can export is EPL congratulations on that and guess what even that is with the help of American Company Disney.

British Legacy is wouldn't last in Britain itself due to Americans.

Agreed. Our soft power is overrated.

The country has become americanised, our culture is now just america-lite.

It's a shame because nothing beats british humour/drama when we get it right.

It's why many of us still go back to shows in the 80's for entertainment.

America-lite is nothing in comparison.
 
Ironic all round.

Top destinations for Indian to move to:

White Western nations : UK, USA, Canada.
Other White nations : Europe, Australia, and New Zealand.
Muslim nations : UAE/ME

Whites and Muslims are the most criticised in India, yet Indian folk want to move to the very nations dominated by Whites/Muslims.

Hmmm. One of life’s mysteries.
 
Ironic all round.

Top destinations for Indian to move to:

White Western nations : UK, USA, Canada.
Other White nations : Europe, Australia, and New Zealand.
Muslim nations : UAE/ME

Whites and Muslims are the most criticised in India, yet Indian folk want to move to the very nations dominated by Whites/Muslims.

Hmmm. One of life’s mysteries.

No one moves to ME to settle down permanently. Most poor Indians go there as cheap labor. Most of them are minorities from Hyderabad and Kerala.

The rich and educated never move to ME. They all move to West.
 
for God sake guys. why do we need to make every thread into Pak vs India debate ?
 
someone says thailand ? what opportunities a person have in thailand ? like me. i am not an IT guy or crypto guy. what are the opportunities for a single person without skills. ? also living in thailiand is cheap ?
can anyone guide me ? its a serious question .
[MENTION=134505]rhony[/MENTION]
 
someone says thailand ? what opportunities a person have in thailand ? like me. i am not an IT guy or crypto guy. what are the opportunities for a single person without skills. ? also living in thailiand is cheap ?
can anyone guide me ? its a serious question .

[MENTION=134505]rhony[/MENTION]

Not many people move to Thailand for unskilled work.

Its more of a place for remote working/chilling once you have already made money.

For a single person with no skills the only thing I can think of is perhaps working in their most famous industry but I'm not sure if thats what you are after.
 
Bali.

PS: I just wanted to make a suggestion so I can request your cheat sheet on how to make all this money from crypto. lol
 
Not many people move to Thailand for unskilled work.

Its more of a place for remote working/chilling once you have already made money.

For a single person with no skills the only thing I can think of is perhaps working in their most famous industry but I'm not sure if thats what you are after.

i have heard that theres a scope for english teachers in shcools. some says thres no experiance required for teaching in thailand. i mean theres any official documents required for english teacher while applying for job other thn visa requirement etc
 
I suggest Canada - good standard of living, friendly people, liberalism. If you can cope with the winters.

I also suggest Ireland - low tax, booming economy, and they speak English.
 
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