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Suryakumar Yadav - A name that will live in infamy

jnaveen1980 said:
Sometimes i wonder if he is pulling these stunts to mask his pathetic form. India cannot afford to carry passenger captain. Doesn't matter India win or not. WHen there is room for improvement you do it even when you win.
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Sanju is a perfect guy to bat at #3... suriya is in terrible form he must reshuffle his batting position and bring samson up the order so he can utilize the early part of the game.
 
From what I have seen of him in this Asia cup, Surya is M Harris level batsman. His horizontal bat shots are good which means he will do better on flatter surfaces and on wickets with good bounce in Southern Hemisphere but just like Harris, his vertical bat game is weak. They will struggle on slow and skiddy surfaces unless they improve their technique.
 
Greenstorm said:
From what I have seen of him in this Asia cup, Surya is M Harris level batsman. His horizontal bat shots are good which means he will do better on flatter surfaces and on wickets with good bounce in Southern Hemisphere but just like Harris, his vertical bat game is weak. They will struggle on slow and skiddy surfaces unless they improve their technique.
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You are comparing Haris with SKY? lol Haris is on par with Hasan Ali.
 
Greenstorm said:
I gave my rationale. You are free to disagree with my observation.
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There is no rationale. HE sure doesn't have great strike rate in IPL. 145 but overseas he has 170. But SKY has achieved actually in those parts. Made centuries in England, NZ, South Africa. Haris has done nothing of sort.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
There is no rationale. HE sure doesn't have great strike rate in IPL. 145 but overseas he has 170. But SKY has achieved actually in those parts. Made centuries in England, NZ, South Africa. Haris has done nothing of sort.
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I don't follow Indian players. From what I have seen of his batting against Pakistan (and some other games in Asia cup), he keeps attempting leg side hoick with horizontal bat and ends up getting bowled. Thats usually sign of a batsman lacking vertical bat shots or bad shot selection.
 
Greenstorm said:
I don't follow Indian players. From what I have seen of his batting against Pakistan (and some other games in Asia cup), he keeps attempting leg side hoick with horizontal bat and ends up getting bowled. Thats usually sign of a batsman lacking vertical bat shots or bad shot selection.
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He is mr.360 degree. That means he plays all round the ground. Watch few of his innings. OFlate he has been over obsessive with that leg side hoick. But he can play straight.
 
I can only marvel at the audacity of SKY and his supporters.

If he was so worried about the victims of the attack and if this was NOT aimed as a political gesture towards Pakistan, why did he not dedicate every win until eternity? Why wait for the game against Pakistan - clearly it was directed at Pakistan and not generic.

Lost whatever respect I have for him - he can score a 1000 runs and beat Pakistan by a millions runs, he will remain a classless "Mumbai ka chokra" that he is in my eyes.

I am sure they will bring in Rauf etc in this - obviously it was wrong but this was a reaction to what SKY got away with.
 
I’d like to thank him. It’s finally stopped all this smiley, friendly circus that rizbar introduced.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
He is mr.360 degree. That means he plays all round the ground. Watch few of his innings. OFlate he has been over obsessive with that leg side hoick. But he can play straight.
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No disrespect. I’m sure he’s a great player but honestly I switch off when I see most Indian players. Some earn respect (kohli rohit because they are fabulous cricketers) bumrah because he’s unusual and seems very quiet and he really is metronomy personified.

But otherwise there is nothing endearing about this Indian team. They look petulant and arrogant. That’s up to them but You just don’t want them to degrade the game with petty politics. Pakistani cricketers ought to not react to the crowd. But if the crowd is being whipped up by a captain who’s guilty of an offence then the buck stops there.

I really don’t watch anything to do with Indian cricket but I wonder why so many Indians come on a Pakistan cricket forum?
 
MenInG said:
Well the Indians never did that then - handshakes etc business is the new BJP gen.
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Even so, there was no need to be over friendly even without all this non handshake nonsense. On the field you need can be respectful without being over friendly. Our teams of yesteryear had the balance right.
 
TheSultan said:
Even so, there was no need to be over friendly even without all this non handshake nonsense. On the field you need can be respectful without being over friendly. Our teams of yesteryear had the balance right.
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Bro I understand that Riz/Bar are not the flavour of the month but don't give a free pass to SKY just out of spite. What he did at the start of the game and at the end was despicable. This will be his legacy whatever he achieves on the field of cricket.
 
WTH have Rizwan Babar or Misbah got to do with this. Every bleeding post it’s Rizwan or Babar this.

Sky is a political stooge. That’s it. Some people learn to take what their politicians say with a pinch of salt. Those that follow every world of their leaders are truly gormless but in front of thousands of spectators it can appear to be license to turn into something more sinister.
 
MenInG said:
Bro I understand that Riz/Bar are not the flavour of the month but don't give a free pass to SKY just out of spite. What he did at the start of the game and at the end was despicable. This will be his legacy whatever he achieves on the field of cricket.
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100% it was despicable. I’m not justifying it at all. He deserves all the criticism he gets.

But it’s sad that it took something so despicable for our players to start standing up for themselves again. The last 5 years there’s been too much smiley happy go lucky nonsense.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Who said Ahmed is more talented????
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MenInG

Thread '"I think Ahmed Shehzad has more talent than Sachin Tendulkar ever had" : Abdul Razzaq'

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Abdul Razzaq on TV "I think Ahmed Shehzad has more talent than Sachin Tendulkar ever had" <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Cricket&src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/statuses/445281337482936321">March 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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And a few more quotes

"Pakistan have a very balanced T20I side"
"Our youngsters are very talented and can win us this event"
"We have world-class...
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Now go and read the post under this thread :kp
 
When Rizwan dedicated the victory to Gaza people's.

Here was the first reply by Pakistan posters and many people's like that Post .

"Nothing wrong with it - well said. I’m proud of him for this. "

But now sky said same things they are changing the tone. What an hypocrisy

:kp
 
BouncerGuy said:
SKY turned a cricket win into a stage for military bravado, refused a handshake, and brought up a terror attack in a moment meant for sport. That’s not unity—it’s theatre and what sky did was to chase applause
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Handshake is not a mandatory and it's just a sportsmanship. India team don't shake hand when a team having racists player like Faheem.

As I said earlier, Sachin dedicated the win to the victims of the Mumbai terrorist attacks in the post-match presentation, but Neither England players nor the management had any problem as it was a good message.

But everyone knows why Pakistanis are crying foul over Sky comment on the Pahalgam attacks.

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
When Rizwan dedicated the victory to Gaza people's.

Here was the first reply by Pakistan posters and many people's like that Post .

"Nothing wrong with it - well said. I’m proud of him for this. "

But now sky said same things they are changing the tone. What an hypocrisy

:kp
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I am afraid quality of debate is going downhill with some Indian posters.

Unless India has a direct role in the genocide in Gaza, it had nothing to do with India.

SKY's statement was aimed at Pakistan.
 
MenInG said:
I am afraid quality of debate is going downhill with some Indian posters.

Unless India has a direct role in the genocide in Gaza, it had nothing to do with India.

SKY's statement was aimed at Pakistan.
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Sky did not mention Pakistan by name at all in the post-match presentation.

He simply said ‘We stand with the families of the victims of the Pahalgam terror attack and express our solidarity. We want to dedicate today’s win to the armed forces,”

This statement can only create problems for those behind the Pahalgam attacks, and no one else will.

Now back to rizwan remarks, BCCI did not file any complaint against him because we had no problem with his statement.

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Handshake is not a mandatory and it's just a sportsmanship. India team don't shake hand when a team having racists player like Faheem.

As I said earlier, Sachin dedicated the win to the victims of the Mumbai terrorist attacks in the post-match presentation, but Neither England players nor the management had any problem as it was a good message.

But everyone knows why Pakistanis are crying foul over Sky comment on the Pahalgam attacks.

:kp
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Do you not understand the fundamental difference in the contexts you mention? Mumbai terror attacks and dedicating wins to them is not aimed at the opposition cricket team. It can be a neutral act of solace that England would not take umbrage at.

Cricketers wear arm bands in solidarity it’s perfectly acceptable if cleared beforehand even if political.

Sangakarra dedicating a cup win to a nation caught in war is also a political statement but perfectly acceptable as it’s not directed at the opposition.

Skys comment and raufs response is directed squarely at the opposition. This is why the policy exists. It inflames a situation and undermines a sporting event.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Where is the hypocrisy?
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"Nothing wrong with it - well said. I’m proud of him for this. "

When Rizwan or Afridi made political statements , Pakistan posters - we are proud of them but when sky said it they started crying.

This is example of peak hypocrisy.

:kp
 
MenInG said:
I am afraid quality of debate is going downhill with some Indian posters.

Unless India has a direct role in the genocide in Gaza, it had nothing to do with India.

SKY's statement was aimed at Pakistan.
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Exactly Rizwan’s statement had nothing to do with India or any cricketing nation. It wasn’t even after a match vs India! It was dedicating victory to an oppressed people.

But we all know why that Indian poster has a problem with it. If he dedicated to Ukraine, that chamcha wouldn’t have a problem with it
 
TheSultan said:
Exactly Rizwan’s statement had nothing to do with India or any cricketing nation. It wasn’t even after a match vs India! It was dedicating victory to an oppressed people.

But we all know why that Indian poster has a problem with it. If he dedicated to Ukraine, that chamcha wouldn’t have a problem with it
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He probably would, as Ukraine crisis is mainly caused by greedy Indians according to Trump.

These guys are cheering on wars everywhere. Shebaz Sharif said it correctly yesterday at the United Nations, the smallest coffins are the heaviest to carry. Indians have cheered on the killing of little Hind Rajab and others in Gaza, have directly contributed to kids dying in Ukraine, and as Shabaz Sharif said yesterday, there failed Operation Sindoor martyred a seven year old baby, whose coffin he helped to carry.

Yet these thugs have the audacity to lecture us on hypocrisy and what is correct.

Shameful stuff.
 
Devadwal said:
Sky did not mention Pakistan by name at all in the post-match presentation.

He simply said ‘We stand with the families of the victims of the Pahalgam terror attack and express our solidarity. We want to dedicate today’s win to the armed forces,”

This statement can only create problems for those behind the Pahalgam attacks, and no one else will.

Now back to rizwan remarks, BCCI did not file any complaint against him because we had no problem with his statement.

:kp
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Why did he forgot Pahalgam victims before and after the attack ? Why only after Pakistan game ?

Don't be a hypocrite and accept the fact that this chapri Surya is playing to the gallery with this nonsense. Decades from now, even Indians will be ashamed of such antics.
 
nish_mate said:
Wonder who will be ashamed first Indians for Surya or Pakistanis for their Hinduon ki zehiniat hi aisi hai; Hinduon ke saamne sajda Kiya; I apologise to all Muslims of the world for losing this match...

I agree Surya is a chapri and has no business with all that nonsense, we elect out politicos for that;

what are the Pakistani ex cricketers who uttered the above mentioned gems, surely a lot more than jaahil. Weren't they playing to the gallery and the establishment or was it just bigotry exposed?
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Silly comparison. Pakistani ex cricketers were man enough to shake opposition hands and did not utter political nonsense in post match pressers. Indian former and ex cricketers can do and say whatever they want outside of games and I am sure they have done that before but no one cares. There is a reason why even ICC had to fine this chapri surya.
 
Greenstorm said:
Silly comparison. Pakistani ex cricketers were man enough to shake opposition hands and did not utter political nonsense in post match pressers. Indian former and ex cricketers can do and say whatever they want outside of games and I am sure they have done that before but no one cares. There is a reason why even ICC had to fine this chapri surya.
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Not at all a silly comparison, Shoaib Malik said it as captain of PCT said as captain in 2007 in the post match presentation after losing in the finals.

But then offcourse Pakistanis will brush it aside as non issue or what aboutery...
 
Greenstorm said:
Silly comparison. Pakistani ex cricketers were man enough to shake opposition hands and did not utter political nonsense in post match pressers. Indian former and ex cricketers can do and say whatever they want outside of games and I am sure they have done that before but no one cares. There is a reason why even ICC had to fine this chapri surya.
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nish_mate said:
Not at all a silly comparison, Shoaib Malik said it as captain of PCT said as captain in 2007 in the post match presentation after losing in the finals.

But then offcourse Pakistanis will brush it aside as non issue or what aboutery...
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You are the one indulging in whataboutery and then lecturing on it. I don't know what Malik said but if he said something inappropriate than I won't support it. This thread is about Surya so instead of derailing this thread, tag me in the appropriate thread to get my response.

I don't even have an issue with Surya dedicating his victory to whomever in post match presser. It is Indian fans like @Devadwal who deny the political nature of these comments that I have a problem with. Surya's refusal to shake hands like a man on field is the real issue.
 
Greenstorm said:
You are the one indulging in whataboutery and then lecturing on it. I don't know what Malik said but if he said something inappropriate than I won't support it. This thread is about Surya so instead of derailing this thread, tag me in the appropriate thread to get my response.

I don't even have an issue with Surya dedicating his victory to whomever in post match presser. It is Indian fans like @Devadwal who deny the political nature of these comments that I have a problem with. Surya's refusal to shake hands like a man on field is the real issue.
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Not derailing the thread or lecturing, in your view not shaking hands is not manly or unsporting, in my view mixing religion or politics is equally deplorable.

Just like 18, years on Malik's utterances have been forgotten and brushed under the carpet by both sides, so will this be forgotten in due time...
 
nish_mate said:
Not derailing the thread or lecturing, in your view not shaking hands is not manly or unsporting, in my view mixing religion or politics is equally deplorable.

Just like 18, years on Malik's utterances have been forgotten and brushed under the carpet by both sides, so will this be forgotten in due time...
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Was Malik fined back then ?

Refusal to shake hands is a rare occurrence in cricket and won't be forgotten that easily.
 
Greenstorm said:
Refusal to shake hands is a rare occurrence in cricket and won't be forgotten that easily.
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Apologizing to all Muslims of this world because you lost a game of cricket isn't rare?

Has Malik taken theka of all Muslims of this world?
 
MP2011 said:
Apologizing to all Muslims of this world because you lost a game of cricket isn't rare?

Has Malik taken theka of all Muslims of this world?
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Why are you so triggered by an apology ? Did BCCI even filed a complain then ?

You guys are so desperate to find an equivalence to surya's antics but it will be hard to find such chapri behaviour.
 
Greenstorm said:
Why are you so triggered by an apology ? Did BCCI even filed a complain then ?

You guys are so desperate to find an equivalence to surya's antics but it will be hard to find such chapri behaviour.
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Unlike you and your ilk's inclination to protect your own lot, I don't condone what Sky said. He should have spoken about the game only. And no, that win against your lot won't have eased pain of those 26 families one bit.

But your lot seems to treat your cricketers' with kid gloves.Whatever trash that comes out of their mouth is alright

This is what hypocrisy is all about.
 
As for filing complaint over Malik's comments, well that BCCI wasn't as petty as the current lot is.
 
And why are you triggered about Sky's avoidable comments? Did he ever name your country in his comments?
 
MP2011 said:
As for filing complaint over Malik's comments, well that BCCI wasn't as petty as the current lot is.
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BCCI didn't filed any complain because they would have looked like fools. Malik could have avoided that comment but comparing that to Surya's comments is laughable and shows desperation.
 
MP2011 said:
Unlike you and your ilk's inclination to protect your own lot, I don't condone what Sky said. He should have spoken about the game only. And no, that win against your lot won't have eased pain of those 26 families one bit.

But your lot seems to treat your cricketers' with kid gloves.Whatever trash that comes out of their mouth is alright

This is what hypocrisy is all about.
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Then stick to that and don't indulge in whataboutery.
 
Greenstorm said:
BCCI didn't filed any complain because they would have looked like fools. Malik could have avoided that comment but comparing that to Surya's comments is laughable and shows desperation.
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Only fool in that instance is Malik, no one else.
 
This is a low scoring match, and India should win it easily, but the reason Pakistan iss soo much pumped up in this final is because of Sooriyas antics.

Even after we showed good sportsmanship, he appealed for obstruction for his own bad fielding.

I have never seen Pakistan this pumped up that they were diving around for catches
 
cricketjoshila said:
Rules allow appealimg for obstruction of field. Sky is playing the gameas per icc rules not pakistan rules
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was he out obstucting the field? Seems like playing less according to ICC rules, but more towards the appeasement of BJP.

I think Surya knows that he is 35, and might be looking to get a BJP ticket.
 
Really happy for SKY and Haris Rauf ...

Really got what they deserved.. chaped mu pe
 
You're blaming SKY for turning cricket political, but your entire rant is dripping with drama. He didn’t wave a flag, shout slogans, or insult anyone. He chose not to shake hands. That’s it. Get over it.

If a silent protest rattled your team so badly that Haris Rauf had to turn into a boundary mime, maybe the problem isn’t SKY. Perhaps it's your side's emotional discipline.

SKY didn’t need brownie points, he walked away with the trophy. You lost a cricket match. Please don’t turn it into a TED Talk on morality.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
You're blaming SKY for turning cricket political, but your entire rant is dripping with drama. He didn’t wave a flag, shout slogans, or insult anyone. He chose not to shake hands. That’s it. Get over it.

If a silent protest rattled your team so badly that Haris Rauf had to turn into a boundary mime, maybe the problem isn’t SKY. Perhaps it's your side's emotional discipline.

SKY didn’t need brownie points, he walked away with the trophy. You lost a cricket match. Please don’t turn it into a TED Talk on morality.
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Sky needed brownie points after bakhts went after him for shaking mohsin Naqvi’s hand
 
Who cares about the controversies, he lifted the trophy against Pakistan, and their players and fans will remember his name forever. He shut down their cheap antics by thrashing them three times in a row, stayed cool, and delivered when it mattered.

Salaam, Sury Bhai (Read this in KGF style :aag ) The name won’t just be remembered… it will be feared.:salute
 
Don't see him surviving as a captain though. Pandya should have been the leader after Rohit's departure.
 
introvert said:
Don't see him surviving as a captain though. Pandya should have been the leader after Rohit's departure.
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Problem with Pandya being named our T20 captain is that, he is hardly the epitome of fitness. Manages to get injured at most inopportune times.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Who cares about the controversies, he lifted the trophy against Pakistan, and their players and fans will remember his name forever. He shut down their cheap antics by thrashing them three times in a row, stayed cool, and delivered when it mattered.

Salaam, Sury Bhai (Read this in KGF style :aag ) The name won’t just be remembered… it will be feared.:salute
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Yeah will be remembered as a classless launda by everyone. Hardly a feat..

India would have won the tournament even if they replaced sky with a baby toy.

That's how much he has contributed to Asia cup win other than his classless tantrums
 
Most Indian “cricket” fans want him dropped as well and hopefully Gautii too if we are lucky but nevertheless having said that people pushing for his name to be dirt its fine but Rauf who tried to sledge Tilak today as well would could do absolutely zilch against Indians, I can’t imagine a bigger bunny of Indian team and somehow consistently gets chances this guy.
 
I was scratching my head when he made that obstruction of field appeal.

Such a poor sportsmanship. He is past his prime IMO. But certainly not worthy to be called an Indian captain. Imagine the names of Dhoni, Kohli, Rohit and all and now we have a captain with such immature behavior.
 
I guess Indians have appointed him the captain because he can act like a complete clown and represent them well
 

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Cover Drive Six said:
Who cares about the controversies, he lifted the trophy against Pakistan, and their players and fans will remember his name forever. He shut down their cheap antics by thrashing them three times in a row, stayed cool, and delivered when it mattered.

Salaam, Sury Bhai (Read this in KGF style :aag ) The name won’t just be remembered… it will be feared.:salute
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What trophy?
 
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