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What a fantastic group of players they have at the moment. Strength in depth, almost all bases covered, so much competition for places.

Number 1 in the ICC Test Rankings
Number 1 in the ICC ODI Rankings
Number 3 in the ICC T20I Rankings

How are they doing it?

What can other nations learn from them?
 
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Proper domestic structure for their population. Expats from South Africa, Zimbabwe, Associate countries, Sporting culture.
 
Lots to like. They get on with the task professionally with no fuss or dramas like certain cricket nations.

Their excellent strength in depth also demonstrates a strong domestic and coaching setup despite having a fraction of the playing base of other nations.
 
Their excellent strength in depth also demonstrates a strong domestic and coaching setup despite having a fraction of the playing base of other nations.

This. Their depth is pretty impressive, they have quality international backups for all the positions and that while having a pretty small player base.
 
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Win/Loss ratio since 1 Jan 2015:-

1. India - 3.1
2. New Zealand - 1.8
3. Australia - 1.5
4. England - 1.11
5. South Africa - 1.08
6. Pakistan - 0.9
7. Sri Lanka - 0.7
8. West Indies - 0.45
9. Bangladesh - 0.34
 
- 3 bowlers with 200+ Test wickets, one of those 300+
- 2 batsmen that rank 1st and 3rd (soon to be 2nd) in the list of most NZ Test runs
- One of the world's best Test WK's
- Debutants and new players slotting in seamlessly
- World No.1 Test team and in the WTC final

All in the same team. All in a nation of only 110 male first-class cricketers. Golden generation of NZ cricket.
 
I think Brendon McCullum era changed the approach and the way game of cricket was played in NZ. That didnt only make it much more attractive for their fans rather also changed fortunes of NZ as a cricket team. Williamson also bought into that approach and continued in that very way.

Also it would only be fair to mention NZ’s homegrown coaches from domestic cricket Mike Hesson and Gary Stead. They were brought into the setup looking at their performances and impact at domestic level and they both were skillful enough to support NZ cricket in its step forward.

Common thing about all the top 3 teams across the formats is that they have strong backups to their main players which shows their overall cricketing structure’s depth.

A road map to follow for every mid/lower tier team. They need to do the basics right and nourish their structure in a way that is really good with development of young players and that final polish to make them into international products. You can only have handful of highly gifted natural players but, with proper development you can make a lot of decent talents into international level products and successfully being able to do that automatically gives strength to the structure as well as the national team.
 
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This is like their most significant overseas series win in a very long time and that too against England B/C team, they are most likely to get smashed badly against India and that will pop a couple of bubbles.
 
They'll probably win the WTC too, but then again, English conditions is within their ball park, very similar to their home conditions. They do need to prove themselves in the top countries away from home.

To put things into context, this is just their third test win in all of India, England, South Africa and Australia since 1999.
 
They'll probably win the WTC too, but then again, English conditions is within their ball park, very similar to their home conditions. They do need to prove themselves in the top countries away from home.

To put things into context, this is just their third test win in all of India, England, South Africa and Australia since 1999.

Let's be fair they haven't had many opportunities in England, India or South Africa to correct that record.

They hadn't toured England since 2015 prior to this series, and haven't toured India or South Africa for Tests since 2016. And their last two series in England and South Africa only consisted of two Tests.
 
Well done New Zealand, richly deserved victory.

England may have been missing some players but New Zealand were missing even more key players. Beating England at Edgbaston was big enough but to be the first team to win a test series in England since 2014 is a massive achievement.

I think the WTC Final will prove once and for all who is the best test team in the world.
 
Well they have won in England, UAE and drawn in Lanka in the last 4 years and have beaten everyone at home as well. They will win in Windies as well .

Most teams cant win away series in more than 2-3 places. England have won only in SA and SL. Nowhere else. Australia haven't won anywhere recently. Indua gave beaten SL, Windies and Australia away apart from a strong record . If NZ win the WTC, they would have more than deserved. Their home record has been brilliant in the last 4 years and their away record is not worse than the next best team either.
 
New Zealand last 3 Test series against England
1-0 (2) in Eng, 2021
1-0 (2) in NZ, 2019
1-0 (2) in NZ, 2018
3 back to back series wins & First team to win a Test series in Eng in last 7 years
 
It's all about timing and quality cricketers. They are getting quality cricketers in abundance especially bowlers at the same time. Don't be fooled, their batting is still Williamson dependant for the most part
 
It's all about timing and quality cricketers. They are getting quality cricketers in abundance especially bowlers at the same time. Don't be fooled, their batting is still Williamson dependant for the most part

They've just won a Test v England by 8 wickets in England without Williamson.

They have enough quality without Williamson to be able to compete against the best.
 
For such a small cricket country (population wise) producing that many good cricketers is legendary.

We, Pakistanis, cant even get a few out of 220 + million people.

Instead of Australia Khan sahab should study the domestic system + infrastructure of NZ.
 
Now on track for a truly historic WTC trophy. The golden generation on the cusp of going a step further than any of their predecessors.
 
Now on track for a truly historic WTC trophy. The golden generation on the cusp of going a step further than any of their predecessors.

Hopefully this win and if they win that it makes up for how they were treated in the WC19 final.
 
Lets see if the golden generation can win it here...I'm calling it now, India to win by 6:15 pm.
 
Would be poetic if NZ's #1 and #2 top run-scorers in Taylor and Williamson took them home in the inaugural WTC final.
 
They're a fantastic team.

Have shown the Bangladeshes of this world that population is no excuse.
 
Last 12 Test series before the WTC:

Won 10
Lost 1 (v Aus in Aus)
Drawn 1
 
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Brilliant group of cricketers in all formats.

Jealous.......very :)
 
They are number one ranked in both Test/ODI and now have a world trophy to their name. Clearly the best team of this era.
 
Lets not excited, the golden jobbers were handed this trophy on a plate, India won in Australia, something NZ can never achieve
 
New Zealand's position and consistency in the ICC rankings:

1st in Tests
1st in ODIs
3rd in T20Is
 
You don't know how demoralizing losing those two back to back was.


It's special that this team overcome those demons.

Taylor tearing up man..

Dang..Feels emotional to see Taylor in tears, a man who normally doesn't show any emotions.
 
Need to thank McCullum for this, he's the one who started this ascent and gave the team belief that they could beat the best.
 
Saj did this thread on 13th June when everyone thought that Indian pace and batting will annihilate NZ - watch now for all these patronizing comments about NZ being so good etc

Sickening.
 
Couldn't be happier for these guys because NOBODY deserves it more, and no team is more likable. And its not like India even played badly. The match was pretty 50/50 for the most part. New Zealand just outplayed them, especially during the crunch moments. The fact that a day was rained out and a draw seemed inevitable, just goes to show what an incredible side this New Zealand side is, that they still managed to pull-off a victory. Well done lads! Very well deserved.
 
Saj did this thread on 13th June when everyone thought that Indian pace and batting will annihilate NZ - watch now for all these patronizing comments about NZ being so good etc

Sickening.

I'm glad I was on the right side of history with this one. I always expected New Zealand to be the better side in those conditions. And they were.

I just hope certain people here finally start giving the Kiwis the respect they deserve, instead of calling them home-track bullies.
 
Saj did this thread on 13th June when everyone thought that Indian pace and batting will annihilate NZ - watch now for all these patronizing comments about NZ being so good etc

Sickening.

You're reaching.

Nobody expected the Indian pace and batting to annihilate NZ unless you were imagining them. Most Indian fans were pessimistic about India's batting in english conditions where their batsmen always tend to struggle badly, like it happened today.
 
This Indian side are very good. But I can't consider them the GOAT asian side. Two wins in Australia (one against a significantly weakened side) and complete dominance at home doesn't compare to what Imran's Pakistani's accomplished in the 80's for me (drawn series against the GOAT test side in '88, wins in England, India, pushing Hadlee's NZ to the brink in '85 even without Imran, etc.).

For India to win that title they need to start winning games in England, NZ and SA. This summer presents them with a golden opportunity: England are weak (even with Stokes back in the XI) - NZ brushed them aside with half of their first choice XI sitting on the sidelines. Given that the word is that England are committed to sacrificing their home summer in the vane hopes of winning in Australia by preparing dry flat wickets, India really should win comfortably. If they do then they'll have moved a bit closer to Imran's side. If they don't then I think the conversation should pretty much be put to bed.
 
There is no mystery. They are going through a period where they have managed to produce 5-6 of the 10 greatest cricketers they have ever produced.

Williamson, Boult, Taylor, Jamieson, Southee, BJW etc. are among the very best cricketers New Zealand have ever produced.

The next generation might not be able to sustain this legacy because all teams go through peaks and troughs.
 
While speaking to Chinese journalists as Beijing marked the centenary of the ruling Communist Party, he said, "I watched on television ofcourse the Olympics in China and if you see their performance in the past 30 years, institutionalization has helped China become an emerging power in sport as well. A small country like New Zealand, of 5 million people, just won the cricket world championship from India which has 1.3 billion people.

"A country of 5 million people has actually won a championship against them because they have a very good system of bringing up talent and polishing it. So, countries which clearly have institutionalised better, they move upwards because the system of polishing the talent in the country is better."

https://news.abplive.com/sports/pak...ry-of-1-3-billion-people-in-wtc-final-1466942
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On this day at the 2019 <a href="https://twitter.com/cricketworldcup?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CricketWorldCup</a>, a brilliant semi-final between New Zealand and India reached a thrilling conclusion &#55356;&#56819;&#55356;&#56831; &#55356;&#56814;&#55356;&#56819; <a href="https://t.co/RMkVaPX0C2">pic.twitter.com/RMkVaPX0C2</a></p>— ICC (@ICC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC/status/1413724915556044800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
A ceremony held in the Eden Park changing rooms saw medals awarded to two fringe Black Caps players, as part of the Mace Tour following New Zealand’s World Test Championship cricket victory.

Jeet Raval, 32, and Will Somerville, 36, were given their medals by Grant Robertson, Minister for Sport and Recreation. Neither player played for the Black Caps during the WTC final, but both contributed towards the Black Caps’ journey to the final, making them eligible to receive medals.

“It’s no surprise that the Black Caps are every Kiwi’s second-favourite team,” Robertson said.

“They just play cricket the way it should be played. What they do on the field is remarkable, the way they look out for each other is the best I’ve seen. The team culture is exceptional.”

The ceremony was attended by the families of both cricketers, team-mates and New Zealand Cricket representatives. The dressing room was then opened to the public for autographs and photos with the trophy. Lines of fans waiting to meet the players reached as far as the car park.

“I’m really, really proud to be part of this great team,” said Raval following the ceremony.

“The loyalty has been incredible. From the moment you first join the team, you’re allowed to just be yourself, and it means you can settle in really easy. To get a reward for our hard work, it’s been an honour to be a part of it.”

Raval has 24 tests for New Zealand, 20 more than compatriot Somerville, who made his debut in New Zealand’s test series against Pakistan in 2018.

“I would love to be back in the team, although competition for places is very healthy at the moment. I’m just doing my best to get back to where I was. I’m sure this team has what it takes to retain the title again,” Raval said.


The Sport Minister, Grant Robertson, presented Black Caps Jeet Raval and William Somerville with their winners’ medals as part of the Mace Tour.

Somerville’s wife and three children were at the ceremony, the spin bowler clearly delighted to have them present.

“I hope I can pass it down to my kids one day,” Will said of his medal.

“It’s something I’m incredibly proud of, there’s no better feeling than playing for my country.”

The Black Caps continue their Mace Tour across the country, visiting 10 cities over 10 days and ending in Invercargill.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...eive-medals-at-eden-park-as-part-of-mace-tour
 
They have 11 athletes in their side whereas we've just called up Azam Khan.

100% Even if a Kiwi batsman/bowler have an off day, on the field they are hard wired to save 10-20 runs. Exceptional group of athletes, excellent fielding team. Even hitting the rare bad ball from the New Zealand pace attack doesn't guarantee a batsman runs, because then comes the challenge of piercing the ring. Also, on top of the fact that they do not drop catches, they also take incredible ones. Half chances turn into wickets. No matter how hard one can hit the ball, you will not get selected weighing 100kgs +

On the other hand for the Pakistan playing XI, fielding is a mandatory task undertaken before you get your turn with the ball/bat! Fitness is another task one needs to complete in order to not catch the coach/trainer's ire. I really don't think the players see the correlation here.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Atherton "They are through to another World Cup Final, they were close to winning the last World Cup in 2019, they are the World Test Championship winners. Across all formats New Zealand are the strongest team at the moment" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/T20WorldCup?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#T20WorldCup</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1458495671498121218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Pat Cummins is worth more than the entire Black Caps XI put together. That’s the assessment of the global Twenty20 economy, underscoring the gilt-edged opportunity Australia has to create history in Monday morning’s T20 World Cup final.

Cricket’s trans-Tasman rivalry has been characterised as a battle between little brother and big brother, when a clash between David and Goliath may be a more appropriate comparison.

The men’s final pits Australia’s $10.5 million guns for hire against a Black Caps side valued at just a fraction of that, $2.2 million, by the Indian Premier League free market.

The difference is also reflected in the revenues of the two nation’s governing bodies, with Cricket Australia’s $414.7 million revenue dwarfing the $60 million of the New Zealand board.

Despite the gulf in commercial clout, it is New Zealand who, if not for an umpiring error, could be shooting to complete cricket’s triple crown of the World Test Championship and the World Cup in the 50- and 20-over formats in the early hours of Monday morning.

Nevertheless, with the game’s modern superpower India and white-ball juggernaut England out of the running, Australia will seldom get a better opportunity to claim the only major title to have eluded the country.

Black Caps batter Devon Conway ruled out of T20 World Cup final.

Sport is not played on a spreadsheet, but the vast sums paid to Australian players by IPL franchises, whose lists are managed by some of the game’s most astute minds, reflects how highly thought of they are as cricketers.

Cummins ($3.17 million), Glenn Maxwell ($2.63 million) and David Warner ($2.3 million) all have IPL deals worth more than the entire likely New Zealand team that will take to the field for the final.

So did Steve Smith before he was released by the Rajasthan Royals at the start of the year, while Mitchell Starc, bought for $1.8 million in 2018, would also fetch a high seven-figure price should he choose to return to the world’s richest T20 league having not played since 2015.

Captain Kane Williamson is one of the most valuable players in the New Zealand team, but his value on the IPL market is dwarfed by some of the Australians.

The Black Caps are not paupers compared to the average person on the street, but their qualification for the decider with a team not highly rated by IPL recruiters adds weight to the belief they punch well above their weight.

Of their likely XI, only three players – skipper Kane Williamson and quicks Trent Boult and Adam Milne – went at auction for more than $500,000, while all-rounder James Neesham and spinner Mitchell Santner (both $92,300) were bargain-basement acquisitions.

Symbolically, one of New Zealand’s greatest fast bowlers, Tim Southee, with a base of $138,000, was secured as an afterthought, called in as a replacement for Cummins after he withdrew from the second leg of this year’s IPL to be at the birth of his child.

Furthermore, leg-spinner Ish Sodhi is part of the Rajasthan Royals’ back-room staff as the team liaison officer after going unsold at the auction.

Through their achievements on the world stage, the Black Caps have regularly shown they are more than the sum of their parts, but it’s Australia who prevail in the matches that count between the two neighbours.

The 2015 World Cup final was a rout. When they last met in the Test arena two seasons ago, what could go wrong did go wrong for the Kiwis, who were whitewashed in three one-sided games, ensuring the Trans-Tasman Trophy, which last changed hands in 1993, would remain in Australia.

New Zealand’s T20 series win earlier this year came against an Australian team missing Warner, Smith, Cummins, Mitchell Starc and Josh Hazlewood.

“The way New Zealand cricket have gone about their business the last few years has been outstanding,” Australia coach Justin Langer said. “They’re a really good bunch of blokes, they get on with the job and get it done. We’re going to have to be at our best like we have been in this tournament to beat New Zealand.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...re-black-caps-side-in-david-and-goliath-final
 
I am surprised at this 62-all out. That came out of nowhere.

It still doesn't change the fact this New Zealand side is probably their greatest side ever.
 
I am surprised at this 62-all out. That came out of nowhere.

It still doesn't change the fact this New Zealand side is probably their greatest side ever.

Yah, I think it is their greatest side, but they are not really that good in different conditions against good sides. Bounce(Aus) and turn(India) they are hopeless. They couldn't win in SL recently. It would have been interesting to see them tour Pakistan and BD to see if they can win something on turning tracks. Patel looks a decent spinner, but one bowler may not be able to do enough.
 
This 62 all out is an anomaly. Every team has terrible days now and again, even the best ones. NZ are still a good side.
 
New Zealand of the 80's with the likes of Martin Crowe and Richard Hadlee were probably a bit better then the current side. This is not to say that the current side is not good, they are! Now they are realising the potential that has always been there matching it with results. The 62 scored today was just a freak showing although it will most likely cost them the test. They are now a force to be reckoned with in all forms. No politics or former cricketers moaning about some issue. Give it up for the black caps:14::14:
 
Hmm, I didn't see that coming.

I'm another one who thinks that's just a bad day at the office in a place where a collapse like that can be hard to stop. I think Oz got rolled for 80 something a couple of times in the last decade (in seaming conditions though), it can happen.

Look if India can give NZ a walloping in this match then they make a bit of a statement that they are not settling down for #2 spot.

NZ are a good team. An excellent team. One of their great sides. But to really mark an era as top dog they'll need to win a series in either India or Oz (to do both would make a serious claim for atg teams).
 
NZ are a good team. An excellent team. One of their great sides. But to really mark an era as top dog they'll need to win a series in either India or Oz (to do both would make a serious claim for atg teams).

I think that's too hard. Just winning a single test can be extremely hard for NZ in those two venues. NZ's bowling is suitable for NZ/Eng conditions. It's not a surprise that NZ has won only one test out of 27 tests played in India and Aus in the last two decades.

Everybody is getting too carried away by good recent performances by NZ. One of their great side for sure, but lacks too much to go on to win series in places like Aus or Ind. Maybe in short series sneak a win and get a series victory, but winning a test may not be easy for NZ.

When are they touring Aus next? I think the last series in 2019 was 0-3 loss for NZ.
 
I think that's too hard. Just winning a single test can be extremely hard for NZ in those two venues. NZ's bowling is suitable for NZ/Eng conditions. It's not a surprise that NZ has won only one test out of 27 tests played in India and Aus in the last two decades.

Everybody is getting too carried away by good recent performances by NZ. One of their great side for sure, but lacks too much to go on to win series in places like Aus or Ind. Maybe in short series sneak a win and get a series victory, but winning a test may not be easy for NZ.

When are they touring Aus next? I think the last series in 2019 was 0-3 loss for NZ.

I think we play a few 1 dayers early 2022 (this summer) but no tests in Oz for at least 2-3 years I think.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Zealand's last 6 Test results:<br><br>Lost<br>Lost<br>Won<br>Won<br>Lost<br>Lost<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvNZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvNZ</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1533416158870781953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 5, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Of all their cricketers, only Sir Richard Hadlee, Martin Crowe, Chris Cairns and Daniel Vettori would get into this side.
 
Of all their cricketers, only Sir Richard Hadlee, Martin Crowe, Chris Cairns and Daniel Vettori would get into this side.

You are doing some very fine ex-Kiwi cricketers disservice which is surprising considering your tendency to overrate the past.

Stephen Fleming, Nathan Astle and Shane Bond would walk into this side as well.
 
Of all their cricketers, only Sir Richard Hadlee, Martin Crowe, Chris Cairns and Daniel Vettori would get into this side.

You are doing some very fine ex-Kiwi cricketers disservice which is surprising considering your tendency to overrate the past.

Stephen Fleming, Nathan Astle and Shane Bond would walk into this side as well.

Also, Jacob Oram
 
You are doing some very fine ex-Kiwi cricketers disservice which is surprising considering your tendency to overrate the past.

Stephen Fleming, Nathan Astle and Shane Bond would walk into this side as well.

I'm not sure that they would - Fleming averaged 39, Astle 37. Bond only played 18 tests. You might as well bring back Jeremy Coney and Ewen Chatfield.
 
I'm not sure that they would - Fleming averaged 39, Astle 37. Bond only played 18 tests. You might as well bring back Jeremy Coney and Ewen Chatfield.

Ross Taylor has retired. Fleming and Astle are better than all current New Zealand Test batsmen excluding Williamson.

Bond only played 18 Tests but he was a fast bowler of the highest caliber. The best bowler New Zealand has produced to date along with Sir Richard Hadlee.

If he is fit he walks into any New Zealand XI, that has nothing to do with how many games you play and everything to do with how good you are.
 
Ross Taylor has retired. Fleming and Astle are better than all current New Zealand Test batsmen excluding Williamson.

Bond only played 18 Tests but he was a fast bowler of the highest caliber. The best bowler New Zealand has produced to date along with Sir Richard Hadlee.

If he is fit he walks into any New Zealand XI, that has nothing to do with how many games you play and everything to do with how good you are.

Mamoon contradicting himself with his usual line of argumentation

Shane Bond is a great kiwi bowler of the highest caliber even though he has only played 18 Tests but Shoaib Akhtar is a nobody in Test cricket according to him
 
Mamoon contradicting himself with his usual line of argumentation

Shane Bond is a great kiwi bowler of the highest caliber even though he has only played 18 Tests but Shoaib Akhtar is a nobody in Test cricket according to him

Two things: Bond was better than Akhtar.

Moreover, we are not talking about Bond’s legacy and standing in the game. He doesn’t have one, because he didn’t play enough.

We are talking about whether Bond makes an all-time New Zealand XI based on his quality and skill, and the answer is a resounding yes.

Similarly, Akhtar is a nobody in terms of legacy but does he make an all-time Pakistan XI? Most certainly, it is not even a question. A fit, peak Akhtar would get into any Pakistan XI in any era.

There is no contraction in what I said, it is just your poor interpretation of what I said.
 
Ross Taylor has retired. Fleming and Astle are better than all current New Zealand Test batsmen excluding Williamson.

Bond only played 18 Tests but he was a fast bowler of the highest caliber. The best bowler New Zealand has produced to date along with Sir Richard Hadlee.

If he is fit he walks into any New Zealand XI, that has nothing to do with how many games you play and everything to do with how good you are.

OK, in that case Toby Roland-Jones would walk into the current England side. He only played four tests, but has a much better average than Anderson. Come to think of it, he has a better average than Hadlee. He is a medium pacer of the highest caliber [sic]. It has nothing to do with many games he played.
 
NZ all time XI in tests :-

Fleming(c)
Turner
Williamson
Crowe
Taylor
Watling(wkt)/McCullum
Cairns
Hadlee
Vettori
Bond
Boult/Southee

12th man - Kyle Jamieson
 
Simon Doull on New Zealand's tactics...

"I don't want to take anything away from Bairstow or Stokes, it was phenomenal batting.

"We said at tea, don't leave it until 80 runs are required to bowl the spinner. Do it earlier. They should have started with the spinner after tea.
 
A golden thrashing.

Mediocre Kiwis finally exposed. Hopefully no more excuses this time, they always drop the good guy act whenever things don’t go their way.
 
Trent Boult and Tim Southee appear to be aging now. In any case these bowlers always struggle on wickets that offer nothing to them.
 
It's possible Boult & Southee have years left. Not really old at 32-33.

They are better bowlers and NZ a better attack when Wagner is there for variety & oomph on flat decks. Especially when Jamieson not playing.
 
Southee was pathetic this Test, got taken apart brutally. The golden age of Kane, Taylor, Boult, Southee, Wagner is coming to an end.
 
Trent Boult is still very good. But I am not quite sure what’s going on with Tim Southee, who I have always rated as a bowler in the past.

5-363 in the two Tests so far, averaging 70+ with the ball at a very high econ, and getting slaughtered for boundaries by most of the England lineup every over.

This could be his “Ashes 2005 Dizzy Gillespie” series.

Wondering however if Headingley might suit his style of bowling and if he can make a comeback; that’s “if” he keeps his place.
 
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