Test Cricket or T20: What is your cricket preference?

Test Cricket or T20: What is your cricket preference?


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Cricket formats T20 or Test could be made more interesting by introducing player substitution policy like in Football. It happened today in ILT20 and could be introduced on international level too.
I think we should not tamper with Test Cricket. If ICC and all the Boards promote Test as they do for T20's then a lot more people will start watching it.
And please don't make Cricket into Football.
 
Another test series starting from today . I just love the test cricket.
 
Good crowd at both test matches today. But then again all of the Big3 are playing.
 
Today's T20 vs Afg is a classic example of how shorter formats artificially level the playing field for weaker teams when they play against strong sides.

There is no way any Afg team will even come close to beating the same Indian team that played today in our backyard in a proper test match. This is the reason why Test Cricket is the pinnacle. Pretty sure even the players will say the same thing. Nothing to do with superiority complex or anything like that.

PS: some Aspects of T20 cricket have enriched Test Cricket and most importantly franchise cricket ensures that large number of players can make a living.

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Test cricket is revered for its tradition, strategy, and endurance. Whereas T20 has its own set of unique challenges and skill requirements that make it a legitimate and exciting form of the game. T20 cricket demands a different set of skills, focusing on quick decision-making, adaptability, and innovation. The success of Afghanistan against a strong Indian team in a T20 match may be attributed to their proficiency in these areas, not just the artificial levelling of the playing field.
 
Test cricket is revered for its tradition, strategy, and endurance. Whereas T20 has its own set of unique challenges and skill requirements that make it a legitimate and exciting form of the game. T20 cricket demands a different set of skills, focusing on quick decision-making, adaptability, and innovation. The success of Afghanistan against a strong Indian team in a T20 match may be attributed to their proficiency in these areas, not just the artificial levelling of the playing field.

A format where wicket taking is not as important as run stopping cannot be taken seriously.... because luck tends to play a bigger role than cricketing skills when that happens

The batsman counts on luck to score whereas the bowlers do the same to hope that the batsman either holes out or it goes to fielder and causes minimal damage. This becomes comical on small grounds.

Most importantly there is no such thing as defensive batting, and working out a batsman which are all skills in their own right. Once you make these skills redundant then all you are doing is artificially making weak teams appear competitive.

Watch the ongoing Ind vs Eng Test series and you will realize how rich and tough testmatch test cricket really is. No place to hide there.
 
A format where wicket taking is not as important as run stopping cannot be taken seriously.... because luck tends to play a bigger role than cricketing skills when that happens

The batsman counts on luck to score whereas the bowlers do the same to hope that the batsman either holes out or it goes to fielder and causes minimal damage. This becomes comical on small grounds.

Most importantly there is no such thing as defensive batting, and working out a batsman which are all skills in their own right. Once you make these skills redundant then all you are doing is artificially making weak teams appear competitive.

Watch the ongoing Ind vs Eng Test series and you will realize how rich and tough testmatch test cricket really is. No place to hide there.
T20 is first school for future cricketer to pass , some of them will continue their journey and make their place in test team .. Rejecting T20 is foolishness.We should not forget that shorter format is bread and butter of cricket from which we can afford the luxury called test cricket.. David Warner is prime example of a typical T20 player progressing to next level ..
 
T20 is first school for future cricketer to pass , some of them will continue their journey and make their place in test team .. Rejecting T20 is foolishness.We should not forget that shorter format is bread and butter of cricket from which we can afford the luxury called test cricket.. David Warner is prime example of a typical T20 player progressing to next level ..

No issues with that if it remains that way ... but human tendency is such that the economics will start to dictate terms and the only format that will suffer from that would be Test cricket.
 
Any sport that one follows, it can only be enjoyed if one can watch the whole game.
This is irrelevant for any sport. The idea that a kid can’t get inspired seeing Shamar Joseph take wickets in a highlights package or a fan to be buzzing seeing bits and pieces coverage where they can to have loved a match is ridiculous. The same logic has never been applied in football, boxing or anything else. You can’t apply a weird quirk of yourself to the masses lol.

For what it’s worth I enjoy all three formats and it has nothing to do with being able to watch from ball one to the end. Each format has its own appeal and required skill sets.

What I do agree with you however is that the total trashing of T20 and its fans is unnecessary. There is something to be said about being able to host family/friends over or go to the stadium to watch a full chaotic game inside 3 hours. Sure the skill sets required are very limited but the intensity and pressure is still very real.

But it’s also a pleasure to spend a day in the stands watching a competitive test match. It’s a summer pastime in SENA.

ODI marries these two the best but the ICC’s regulations against bowlers to make batsmen score as freely as they do in T20, as well as ridiculously batting friendly pitches, has trashed the format quite badly. Bringing equilibrium back to ODI’s bat and ball contest and there will be way more thrillers again.
 
In the shorter format more money is involved and you also save ur time.

So why wouldn't anyone prefer T20 cricket over Test?
 
Following the termination of Haris Rauf's central contract by PCB, there might be a possibility of early retirements or players refusing central contracts in the future. This could serve as a filter, revealing which players are truly committed to playing for Pakistan.
 
And I just understood that the ICC generally doesn't interfere in the FTP of cricket boards. It means PCB is intentionally not keen to have 5 Test match series, and another reason is the poor talent we have in Pakistan now due to this franchise league cricket and too many T20I series, so top cricketing nations are not interested in playing 5 Test match series with Pakistan.
 
We play T20I series almost every other month, with fewer ODIs and Tests. I'm genuinely concerned about the direction of Pakistan cricket. Can you name the best ODI bowler we have in domestic and international cricket? ODI is like a shorter version of Test cricket, and it's worrying me that we don't seem to have a genuine ODI bowler in Pakistan.
 
India is aggressively promoting Tests by forcing players to participate in the domestic first class games. This is a good sign.
 
Test cricket. It always gives lots of satisfaction when India wins a Test match as opposed to a win in T20Is.
 
T20 saves time but it will do no good to a player in the long term. Red ball format is the ultimate format and should be respected.
 
T20 saves time but it will do no good to a player in the long term. Red ball format is the ultimate format and should be respected.
Actually, T20 is extremely good to a player. Life changing in fact!

If red ball is the ultimate format, why are less of them being played? There is NZ-Aus two test "series" about to kick off. Why just two?

Pak, WI, SL, BD, SA could not care less about this format. Neither do their fans. These are teams that will even play one test "series" or none at all if they can get away with it.

Even in the case of Ind, I cannot help but think that the BCCI is just giving lip service to promote tests. It would be very hard for me to believe any of the new players who started out in the current series will get to 100 tests for Ind.

Ultimately, in majority of the countries, red ball is leaching off T20's that you say is up to no good.
 
Actually, T20 is extremely good to a player. Life changing in fact!

If red ball is the ultimate format, why are less of them being played? There is NZ-Aus two test "series" about to kick off. Why just two?

Pak, WI, SL, BD, SA could not care less about this format. Neither do their fans. These are teams that will even play one test "series" or none at all if they can get away with it.

Even in the case of Ind, I cannot help but think that the BCCI is just giving lip service to promote tests. It would be very hard for me to believe any of the new players who started out in the current series will get to 100 tests for Ind.

Ultimately, in majority of the countries, red ball is leaching off T20's that you say is up to no good.

NZ always had a limited number of tests in a series. Nothing new. WI does care about the format. Pakistan cares too. just that fans pretend not to care as they are not winning anything. last 2 years pakistan has played 15 tests. during the exact same window from 2002 to 2004 Pakistan played 16 tests. this is despite the pandemic.
 
T20 saves time but it will do no good to a player in the long term. Red ball format is the ultimate format and should be respected.
Nobody wants to see world class players playing an average of 15 to 20 balls. That is as much as a street cricketer plays. Besides a lot of world class players are not even picked for T20. Guys like Tim David a failure in first class is celebrated because he can score 10 ball 25 runs. Nobody wants forgettable hit and giggles outside league cricket. international t20 is the biggest joke i must say.
 
NZ always had a limited number of tests in a series. Nothing new. WI does care about the format. Pakistan cares too. just that fans pretend not to care as they are not winning anything. last 2 years pakistan has played 15 tests. during the exact same window from 2002 to 2004 Pakistan played 16 tests. this is despite the pandemic.
7-8 tests a year does not even come close to caring. PCB should be playing 15 a year if they really cared, and there was a demand.

WI is totally mismanaged and corrupt. So not sure what they care about.
 
Nobody wants to see world class players playing an average of 15 to 20 balls. That is as much as a street cricketer plays. Besides a lot of world class players are not even picked for T20. Guys like Tim David a failure in first class is celebrated because he can score 10 ball 25 runs. Nobody wants forgettable hit and giggles outside league cricket. international t20 is the biggest joke i must say.
You are right. T20 maybe exciting and all but can a player improve himself by playing just t20s? I guess nope.
 
Nobody wants to see world class players playing an average of 15 to 20 balls. That is as much as a street cricketer plays. Besides a lot of world class players are not even picked for T20. Guys like Tim David a failure in first class is celebrated because he can score 10 ball 25 runs. Nobody wants forgettable hit and giggles outside league cricket. international t20 is the biggest joke i must say.
I do agree that international T20 should be done away with. Does not do anything.
 
7-8 tests a year does not even come close to caring. PCB should be playing 15 a year if they really cared, and there was a demand.

WI is totally mismanaged and corrupt. So not sure what they care about.
Fans do care about Tests as much as T20s. WI and SA have enough talent to put out a great Test unit. we saw what they could do in Australia. The current Test series is widely followed by every fan not just Indian and England fans. As a Test fan, i followed WI vs Australia series very closely as well. Whenever there is a contest fans follow. Only when there is no contest do fans lose interest. T20 bridges the quality gap. That is just creating artificial entertainment. Nothing more. I rather prefer IPL over international T20 which is largely used for experiments. Cricket is the only sports subcontinent has. They are not good at any other sports. Why would a fan reject any type of cricket? That is just a myth. I know some pak fans who are ardent test fans.
 
T20 is not cricket. Just a circus. Even ODIs nowadays are basically an extended T20 with all the rule changes n all making the bowlers just a placeholder. I did love ODIs pre - 2005. All multi nation tourneys and bi lateral had context, value and teams were full strength ones.

Regarding tests, it is the pinnacle. If you have not played tests or failed tests, then you are just a token cricketer.
 
Fans do care about Tests as much as T20s. WI and SA have enough talent to put out a great Test unit. we saw what they could do in Australia. The current Test series is widely followed by every fan not just Indian and England fans. As a Test fan, i followed WI vs Australia series very closely as well. Whenever there is a contest fans follow. Only when there is no contest do fans lose interest. T20 bridges the quality gap. That is just creating artificial entertainment. Nothing more. I rather prefer IPL over international T20 which is largely used for experiments. Cricket is the only sports subcontinent has. They are not good at any other sports. Why would a fan reject any type of cricket? That is just a myth. I know some pak fans who are ardent test fans.
If you say there is so much support and following for tests, why are there less and less of them being played? What used to be 6 and 5 test series declined to 3 and now to 2 and 1.

How many people show up in Pak., WI? I am asking outside the people working at the ground. How many eyeballs on tv? You need these two aspects for the format to thrive. Instead it is leaching $$ off the T20I that you want to get rid of.
 
T20 is not cricket. Just a circus. Even ODIs nowadays are basically an extended T20 with all the rule changes n all making the bowlers just a placeholder. I did love ODIs pre - 2005. All multi nation tourneys and bi lateral had context, value and teams were full strength ones.

Regarding tests, it is the pinnacle. If you have not played tests or failed tests, then you are just a token cricketer.
Posters keep saying this. But all evidence are to the contrary. A good amount of fans in majority test nations stay away. They just don't seem to care.

What would be the crowd for test in Pakistan vs PSL? What would the fans prefer?
 
Posters keep saying this. But all evidence are to the contrary. A good amount of fans in majority test nations stay away. They just don't seem to care.

What would be the crowd for test in Pakistan vs PSL? What would the fans prefer?
Tests are basically a television sport nowadays due to its multi day span. People have jobs. That explains the crowd.

Tests are tests of cricketers all round skill. Bowlers trying to get batsman out with attacking field support and batsman trying to survive and score runs. LOIs bring the fun element by restricting overs and fielding setup.
 
Wow, Pakistan won the first Test match after two matches, while India won after 25. That was the difference, and now Pakistan's prime focus is on T20Is.

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If you say there is so much support and following for tests, why are there less and less of them being played? What used to be 6 and 5 test series declined to 3 and now to 2 and 1.

How many people show up in Pak., WI? I am asking outside the people working at the ground. How many eyeballs on tv? You need these two aspects for the format to thrive. Instead it is leaching $$ off the T20I that you want to get rid of.
In 2020s 156 tests played. During the exact period of 1990 to 1994 only 118 tests were played. In 2000s lot of teams were mor or less equal. Still they played only 201 tests with zimbabwe playing 34 tests. So it is a myth that less and less tests are played. India played 3 test series in the 2000s mostly. Then it became 4-tests. Now 5-tests. Quality has dropped as many teams are not that good in tests. Nothing to do with fan following.
 
In 2020s 156 tests played. During the exact period of 1990 to 1994 only 118 tests were played. In 2000s lot of teams were mor or less equal. Still they played only 201 tests with zimbabwe playing 34 tests. So it is a myth that less and less tests are played. India played 3 test series in the 2000s mostly. Then it became 4-tests. Now 5-tests. Quality has dropped as many teams are not that good in tests. Nothing to do with fan following.
Who is playing these tests. I bet majority of the tests are played by Aus/Eng/Ind. The rest only play these two and one test "series". For example, Pak. probably only plays a max of two test unless it is with Aus or Eng.

The quality has dropped for sure. It is exactly because of fan following. The fans have moved their focus to T20, which means players have moved towards that as well. Which in turn leaves tests less desired. IPL pays, test cricket, a lot less so.
 
Want entertainment lots of sixes, super overs, go for t20 cricket. Want thrilling 5th day finishes, go for test cricket
 
Who is playing these tests. I bet majority of the tests are played by Aus/Eng/Ind. The rest only play these two and one test "series". For example, Pak. probably only plays a max of two test unless it is with Aus or Eng.

The quality has dropped for sure. It is exactly because of fan following. The fans have moved their focus to T20, which means players have moved towards that as well. Which in turn leaves tests less desired. IPL pays, test cricket, a lot less so.
When your team keeps on failing there will be a drop in quality. Not like they are setting the limited over format ablaze. They suck there too. What is the point of following when your team keeps on losing every format. Basically minnow mentality has taken over among fans. I am sure growing nations like Ireland, Afghanistan even BD would want to play more Tests as the exposure will be much better. I pretty much follow all the test series even the one that India isnot involved. Fans are not moving on. Fans know their team doesn't win anything so they pretend to hate "Test". lol
 
Sourav Ganguly, former India captain, believes young players can perform in both red and white-ball cricket. While an interview to a local indian media outlet, he said:

“I think this is the first time that someone has not played or ignored red-ball domestic cricket. Otherwise, all of them have played Ranji Trophy when they were free. I am sure the BCCI will take proper action."

“They can play both red-ball and white-ball. IPL career can happen along with stint in first-class cricket. They don’t clash. First-class cricket finishes and then there’s almost a month before the IPL starts. I don’t see any problem."

"A lot of the top quality players play Test cricket and white-ball cricket. You look at Kohli, Rohit, Bumrah, KL Rahul and Rishabh Pant. On the world stage, there’s Mitchell Marsh. He is Australia’s premier red-ball player now. Harry Brook plays red-ball cricket. David Warner played so much Test cricket but he was also one of the best white-ball players. Even in my days, Sachin, Rahul and myself played Test cricket and then played white-ball cricket. There’s no reason to say that you can play one and not the other."

“You look at everything. I am not saying you should only look at Ranji performances. You look at white-ball performances and then Ranji Trophy performances. What happens is that the Ranji Trophy season is two months long. And if you are out of the Ranji Trophy season and you finish your domestic season in the month of Nov or early Dec, then you are playing next in April. There’s too much gap between game time. The younger players cite workload management at the state level as well as a factor… Honestly, workload is only for fast bowlers. Why do batters need any workload management? I can understand Bumrah being rested. Jimmy Anderson has played over 160 Tests. What workload are you talking about at the start of your career? I still maintain that Indian cricket’s standard is superb.”
 
When your team keeps on failing there will be a drop in quality. Not like they are setting the limited over format ablaze. They suck there too. What is the point of following when your team keeps on losing every format. Basically minnow mentality has taken over among fans. I am sure growing nations like Ireland, Afghanistan even BD would want to play more Tests as the exposure will be much better. I pretty much follow all the test series even the one that India isnot involved. Fans are not moving on. Fans know their team doesn't win anything so they pretend to hate "Test". lol
Tv numbers and people at the ground say a different story. Should not judge by Aus/Eng/Ind numbers. The other boards just do not want test cricket. Neither do the ICC.

How long did it take the ICC to get the T20 WC going? And how many years did they drag their feet to get the WTC going? How much control do the ICC have over T20 WC? Compare that with not wanting anything to with WTC. The only reason they agreed to conducting the WTC finals is because that is the only way it can be called an ICC event.

Less said about the non Big3 about tests the better.
 
I love a closely contested test cricket but there aren’t many around happening. I doubt it will survive. When players are not motivated to play it enough, there is no chance.

ODI cricket besides may be the World Cup is dead.

T20I will go the route of soccer internationals. Few in between the world cups.

T20 leagues will rule the day.
 
Question: In India players start from the longer format and then move to T20 and in Pakistan we do the reverse so won't it affect the aptitude of players?

Wasim Akram, "Musa Khan, Illas Khan, Imran Butt, Sami Aslam, Hammad Azam etc they came just played one match and then disappeared. Most of them are still young. This is our system not just from now but 10 or don't know from how many decades. And how it will get rectified now that's a mystery"

Misbah: "Whenever you pick a player for PSL or T20 format then do pick the players who have the apt skills for that format but do give preference to those players who player other formats also. No matter if they are young too, those players who have played a season or two should be given preference as Hafeez also said that we don't need to send players from under 19 to play T20 format straight away, they need to start from the longer format and then need to move into the shorter format."
 
Test cricket can fluctuate from the highest form of cricket to the lowest form of cricket.

A Test match between two world class sides on a lively pitch is the highest standard of cricket that you can witness, while a Test match between two weak teams on a dead pitch is the lowest standard of cricket.

I might be in the minority here but ODIs remain my favorite format.
 
England offspinner-allrounder Moeen Ali, during an interview with a sports channel, said:

"People might see a lot of players playing white-ball cricket all over the place, but it is not the same. You have to play a lot of red-ball cricket to know your batting and bowling. Your technique has to be different. It is easier to go from red ball to white than sometimes the other way around. Batsmanship has to be there. Knowing and understanding why you are not scoring runs."

"A lot of the players who go big in T20 cricket, when they are out of form, they are out of form for a long time because they don't understand their own batting technique. Whereas a guy who has played a lot of red-ball cricket, their bad form in T20s is not massive because they know the techniques. They have played a lot of first-class or Test matches. I think that's the only thing that's going out of the game."

"As a young player coming through now, I would still want to play a lot of red-ball cricket to understand your own game. You just play, play, play. T20 leagues and the money will always be there."

"I would tell a young kid to play as much red-ball cricket as you can. It will help your game. The reason why there haven't been good legspinners in Tests after Shane Warne is because they haven't played enough red-ball cricket. You have to play red-ball cricket to be a proper cricketer."

"It looks good from the outside, chasing all the money and playing the leagues, but for your own cricket, red-ball is the way forward. As a young cricketer, I would play overseas first-class cricket instead of T20s. Those leagues will be there [even later]."

"The other thing I would like to say is: don't chase after things that won't be good for your game. Do what is right for your own game first, even if it is means staying home for a winter. Do the basics right. Get a good shape on the ball if you are a spinner. Spin the ball, become accurate. You can be an average spinner in T20s and get away with it. You have to bowl well to get wickets in red-ball cricket. I have very rarely seen people taking a lot of wickets bowling badly in red-ball cricket. Understand your game first before you want to do other stuff. That'd be my advice."
 
Test cricket can fluctuate from the highest form of cricket to the lowest form of cricket.

A Test match between two world class sides on a lively pitch is the highest standard of cricket that you can witness, while a Test match between two weak teams on a dead pitch is the lowest standard of cricket.

I might be in the minority here but ODIs remain my favorite format.
I'll also pick the ODI format because in this you see the essence of all different formats of cricket. In the last overs you can enjoy T20 cricket and in the middle overs you can get the feel of Test cricket too.

So it's a complete package that you can thoroughly enjoy.

Test cricket is quite boring now, its just a waste of time.
 
Odi is my favourite format.

T20 doesn't require as much skill, it does but slogging works lol.

Test is historical but its boring, can't watch a 5 day match man, I gotta a job to do, gotta make money. Watching a test match in full will get me fired lol
 
Odi is my favourite format.

T20 doesn't require as much skill, it does but slogging works lol.

Test is historical but its boring, can't watch a 5 day match man, I gotta a job to do, gotta make money. Watching a test match in full will get me fired lol
I do not think this was done in any era of Test cricket except may be "black and white" era. Most of the time people would listen to commentary whenever the time permitted. Now you have cricinfo access literally anywhere. You just need to know score in Tests. We have work from home option, we have internet 24/7. Think about guys in the 80s, 70s who don't live near stadium. Nobody went and watched. If anything it was a lot tougher to do back in those days. I watched 4th day of Eden Gardens, 2001 test at the office. Entire India tour to Australia last time was epic. One of the most absorbing test series in history. Test matches are "followed" rather than "watched". This has been the case always.
 
I do not think this was done in any era of Test cricket except may be "black and white" era. Most of the time people would listen to commentary whenever the time permitted. Now you have cricinfo access literally anywhere. You just need to know score in Tests. We have work from home option, we have internet 24/7. Think about guys in the 80s, 70s who don't live near stadium. Nobody went and watched. If anything it was a lot tougher to do back in those days. I watched 4th day of Eden Gardens, 2001 test at the office. Entire India tour to Australia last time was epic. One of the most absorbing test series in history. Test matches are "followed" rather than "watched". This has been the case always.
Okay? I don't get what you're trying to say?

All I said was test is historical primarily because its the og format, but I ain't watching a 5 day game lol.
 
Okay? I don't get what you're trying to say?

All I said was test is historical primarily because its the og format, but I ain't watching a 5 day game lol.
Nobody sit and watch all 5 days every over. That never happened in any era. It is not like suddenly we are "more busy". Working people are going to buy in any era. It is not like people in 70s had to wokr only 4 hours. They also had to work 8 hours or more.
 
Nobody sit and watch all 5 days every over. That never happened in any era. It is not like suddenly we are "more busy". Working people are going to buy in any era. It is not like people in 70s had to wokr only 4 hours. They also had to work 8 hours or more.
And did I say that they were vela?

What other people watch or don't watch is irrelevant to me. I talked about myself and my own preferences and my own job schedule.

In which comment did I say, I can't watch test cricket because I'm busy, 1970 people were vela, lucky ducks.

😂😂. Never said that, so no clue what you're on about.
 
And did I say that they were vela?

What other people watch or don't watch is irrelevant to me. I talked about myself and my own preferences and my own job schedule.

In which comment did I say, I can't watch test cricket because I'm busy, 1970 people were vela, lucky ducks.

😂😂. Never said that, so no clue what you're on about.
I say job shouldn't really hinder anyone from following Tests. Most of the guys who follow Tests do have jobs.
 
I say job shouldn't really hinder anyone from following Tests. Most of the guys who follow Tests do have jobs.
I never said they don't,

I'm just talking about myself, I don't know what you're even arguing about.
 
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While speaking to a local English sports channel, England Spinner Tom Hartley remarks:

"I think Test Cricket really has a grasp, where a lot of my friends who aren't really into Cricket know all about Test Cricket, and less so about franchise stuff. So I think it's something really important to him, close to his heart, and it's nice to see that he's putting that first because we know the baller he can be when he's fully fit."
 
Former Australia Captain Ricky Ponting, during an interview with a sports media, was asked about when he adapted to and became more open to T20 cricket:

"It didn't take long for me to realize that this is where the game is heading. My first year in the IPL, at KKR, was cut short to just four games, and then my international career was winding down. I pretty much gave up T20 cricket early to try and stretch out my Test and one-day career. Something had to give because I wanted to play in the 2011 World Cup and then ideally wanted to be part of the 2013 Ashes, but I never quite got there. After retiring, having a year off, getting the chance to coach Mumbai Indians in the IPL [2015], and since then I have worked broadcasting T20 cricket back at home with the Big Bash, so I'm around the game all the time. Being able to commentate on it during the Australian summer and then being able to coach, they both work really well hand in hand. Because when I'm commentating, I can talk about what I'm seeing and the trends in the game and whatever else. And then when I go and coach, I can actually talk to the players about what's happening, what's new, and what we need to do."

"In a Test match, if you are scared of getting out, you lose your instincts, you don't play any shots, you don't score, and then if you think about getting out, inevitably you get out. If you go out in any game and think about scoring runs first, then you'll score runs."

"The default setting now for batting is T20 and then everything else works around that. It was never that way. And as they are playing more, so they are training more. This range-hitting stuff that they are doing, they have a really clear understanding now of exactly what they need to do to clear the ropes at every venue they go to. I will go to the ground today and guys will spend an hour and a half in the middle just range-hitting, just hitting balls into the stands and getting a feel for how they have to swing, or how hard they have to hit. We never ever trained that.

The other part of batting getting better is that batters are able to score 360 degrees around the ground, and you have only got a certain amount of fielders."
 
Rain has spoiled the whole fun. ICC has proved once again that they are the worst management guy out there.

Talking about preference? will pick Tests for player's develpment and T20s for fun.
 
When I was younger, I could watch Test cricket all day long. I enjoyed bowlers delivering maiden after maiden or setting up the batsmen. I appreciated batsmen applying themselves and scoring hundreds or daddy hundreds. A Test match loss or a Test series loss hurt significantly more than an ODI series loss, and a Test series win was more significant than an ODI series win. However, now I don't have time to watch Test cricket, and my interest in it has declined. I no longer have the time to sit in front of the TV and watch 8 hours of play, so for convenience, I end up watching shorter formats more.

But when it comes to rating a player, I don't consider a player to be of quality unless they perform in Test matches. You only become quality when you perform in Test matches.

To sum it up, Test cricket is real cricket, but due to time constraints, T20 cricket is more convenient and aligns better with other world sports. Additionally, T20 is the best format to promote cricket.
 
T20 is like French fries. Tasty but junk.

Test is like a well-prepared steak served with mashed potatoes and other vegetables. A classy dish.

Test wins easily.
 
When I was younger, I could watch Test cricket all day long. I enjoyed bowlers delivering maiden after maiden or setting up the batsmen. I appreciated batsmen applying themselves and scoring hundreds or daddy hundreds. A Test match loss or a Test series loss hurt significantly more than an ODI series loss, and a Test series win was more significant than an ODI series win. However, now I don't have time to watch Test cricket, and my interest in it has declined. I no longer have the time to sit in front of the TV and watch 8 hours of play, so for convenience, I end up watching shorter formats more.

But when it comes to rating a player, I don't consider a player to be of quality unless they perform in Test matches. You only become quality when you perform in Test matches.

To sum it up, Test cricket is real cricket, but due to time constraints, T20 cricket is more convenient and aligns better with other world sports. Additionally, T20 is the best format to promote cricket.
I don't think Tests are meant to be watched in their entirety. Its impossible for any productive member of society to be able to do that. Tests are meant to be seen in patches and maybe on a Sunday you lay back on the sofa with a cold beverage and watch most of the fourth or fifth day of the test match.
 
Rain has spoiled the whole fun. ICC has proved once again that they are the worst management guy out there.

Talking about preference? will pick Tests for player's develpment and T20s for fun.
Playing tests will not get you into IPL. Which is what modern cricketers aspire for. It will though get your name out for IPL bosses to see. But test technique is not what an IPL coach is looking for.
 
You can never be an outstanding player by playing T20 cricket only. All these X-factor heroes used to play Test and 50 overs cricket. No one can achieve greatness without grinding himself.
I agree. That is the current situation. But now more and more IPL recruits are directly scouted from domestic cricket of all countries. So going forward, things are bound to change. Players will become international stars based on T20.
 
When I was younger, I could watch Test cricket all day long. I enjoyed bowlers delivering maiden after maiden or setting up the batsmen. I appreciated batsmen applying themselves and scoring hundreds or daddy hundreds. A Test match loss or a Test series loss hurt significantly more than an ODI series loss, and a Test series win was more significant than an ODI series win. However, now I don't have time to watch Test cricket, and my interest in it has declined. I no longer have the time to sit in front of the TV and watch 8 hours of play, so for convenience, I end up watching shorter formats more.

But when it comes to rating a player, I don't consider a player to be of quality unless they perform in Test matches. You only become quality when you perform in Test matches.

To sum it up, Test cricket is real cricket, but due to time constraints, T20 cricket is more convenient and aligns better with other world sports. Additionally, T20 is the best format to promote cricket.
But no one does or wants to play test cricket. It has now become a game for just three teams.

Also, the skill set required for what has become the premier format (T20) is different from what is required for tests. There are a many examples, Alistair Cook, VVS Laxman, Pujara, Smith, et al. None of them could make it in T20. But all are wonderful test batsmen.
 
Arthouse cinema seems to be only for consumption by very few.
Popcorn blockbuster is on its way to a box office failure.
Instagram reel is flying high.
Arthouse cinema has substance and makes you think about everything from the cinematography to the story. Popcorn blockbusters are fun every now or then but can't be taken too seriously.

Instagram reels are digital junk consumed by Gen Z kids and is probably a big reason for their short attention spans.
 
I don't think Tests are meant to be watched in their entirety. Its impossible for any productive member of society to be able to do that. Tests are meant to be seen in patches and maybe on a Sunday you lay back on the sofa with a cold beverage and watch most of the fourth or fifth day of the test match.
This is exactly why tests are dead. If people keep watching it in patches and catching highlights, how does the broadcaster make money? Because the broadcaster has to keep broadcasting the entirety of the match, the boards have to pay all the people involved in the ground for all days the matches are on. Which means money is being spent by them.

So fans picking and choosing their time to watch/follow has lead to losses by the boards and the broadcasters and consequently the death to test cricket.
 
T20 is like French fries. Tasty but junk.

Test is like a well-prepared steak served with mashed potatoes and other vegetables. A classy dish.

Test wins easily.
The problem though is the place serving the steak has no money to buy products to cook the steak! They have to beg for welfare handouts from the junk french fry people so they can serve steaks!
 
Test cricket with an important caveat..... provided the teams are competitive. Each session needs to be a contest, irrespective of the results. When that happens, it's cricket at its best, nothing comes close. The top sides competing against each other in Tests, it's the very best of cricket.

Everything else it's T20s, especially the mediocre sides. They're simply not good enough for test Cricket and are terribly boring to watch, stick to T20s.

I hope Shan's captaincy saves the test team, in-between all the uneducated mediocre egomaniacs and their fans plaguing Pakistan cricket at the moment, he's the one ray of hope.
 
This is exactly why tests are dead. If people keep watching it in patches and catching highlights, how does the broadcaster make money? Because the broadcaster has to keep broadcasting the entirety of the match, the boards have to pay all the people involved in the ground for all days the matches are on. Which means money is being spent by them.

So fans picking and choosing their time to watch/follow has lead to losses by the boards and the broadcasters and consequently the death to test cricket.
So wait, you think people not watching 5 day matches in their entirety is a new thing and hasn't been happening ever since test cricket started being broadcasted on TV? Which world are you living in? Even during the days of radio broadcasts nobody had the time to listen to the radio all day long.

People keep saying that test cricket is dead but I don't really believe that. Test cricket is very much a niche sport and to maintain its quality and standard, it needs to be that. Test cricket has been around for hundreds of years and will be around for hundreds more. I could care less about the broadcaster's greed or if they are not milking every last dime. Test cricket has never been a highly popular sport. Didn't change anything before, won't change anything now.
 
So wait, you think people not watching 5 day matches in their entirety is a new thing and hasn't been happening ever since test cricket started being broadcasted on TV? Which world are you living in? Even during the days of radio broadcasts nobody had the time to listen to the radio all day long.

People keep saying that test cricket is dead but I don't really believe that. Test cricket is very much a niche sport and to maintain its quality and standard, it needs to be that. Test cricket has been around for hundreds of years and will be around for hundreds more. I could care less about the broadcaster's greed or if they are not milking every last dime. Test cricket has never been a highly popular sport. Didn't change anything before, won't change anything now.
No, I am not saying that this is new. But in the modern world, the economics do not work. If it did, all the boards will be jumping to schedule tests. Not resort to one and two test "series". With increasing costs and diminishing support, I do not see tests thriving.

Take the example of WTC. The ICC dragged it's feet for years and years before they were forced kicking and screaming to the table to make a decision. Even then, they wanted nothing to do with any of the test matches. They just agreed to be involved in the finals just so there is some involvement on their end. No ownership of anything else.

In total contrast, the ICC acted swiftly to take complete control of the T20 WC. They planned everything, took full control of all things financial and administrative.

You can go back look at the unfolding events in both cases.
 
No, I am not saying that this is new. But in the modern world, the economics do not work. If it did, all the boards will be jumping to schedule tests. Not resort to one and two test "series". With increasing costs and diminishing support, I do not see tests thriving.

Take the example of WTC. The ICC dragged it's feet for years and years before they were forced kicking and screaming to the table to make a decision. Even then, they wanted nothing to do with any of the test matches. They just agreed to be involved in the finals just so there is some involvement on their end. No ownership of anything else.

In total contrast, the ICC acted swiftly to take complete control of the T20 WC. They planned everything, took full control of all things financial and administrative.

You can go back look at the unfolding events in both cases.
That's because ICC's model is fundamentally screwed up and geared towards milking every last dime and making as much money as possible for three countries, but especially one country.

A more equitable system of revenue distribution, guaranteed minimum games for all nations, a commitment for everybody to play everybody: this is how you 'save Test cricket.' Instead we continue to indulge the idea that the only way of increasing interest in this sport is by creating as much revenue and attention at the top and hope that it somehow trickles all the way down. Which is basically the cricketing version of Reaganomics/trickled down economics.

Anyway, I see test cricket surviving despite this fundamentally screwed up model. Because when you're making the most money like the Big 3 is, you have an incentive to keep the gravy train going.
 
That's because ICC's model is fundamentally screwed up and geared towards milking every last dime and making as much money as possible for three countries, but especially one country.

A more equitable system of revenue distribution, guaranteed minimum games for all nations, a commitment for everybody to play everybody: this is how you 'save Test cricket.' Instead we continue to indulge the idea that the only way of increasing interest in this sport is by creating as much revenue and attention at the top and hope that it somehow trickles all the way down. Which is basically the cricketing version of Reaganomics/trickled down economics.

Anyway, I see test cricket surviving despite this fundamentally screwed up model. Because when you're making the most money like the Big 3 is, you have an incentive to keep the gravy train going.
Equitable distribution of $$$$ was there for years. But those years where when boards like WI, SL, Zim went south big time. So money alone is not the answer.

I do though support the idea of giving money boards like WI, SL (not Zim). But should be monitored. ICC should help the boards setup a path to success and thrive. I will say 5-7 years of financial support. Give them the 3 years to implement the plan that they agreed to with ICC.

At the 3 year mark, ICC fully audits and checks things on the progress made. Make any adjustments needed. Continue to support them for another 2 years. At the 5 year mark they should be well on the way to self sufficiency. If things are going well, perhaps give them another year or two of financial support.

But if they have not made any progress after 5 years, then it is time call it a money pit. No point to pouring money at these type of situations. Cut your losses and focus resources elsewhere.
 
Equitable distribution of $$$$ was there for years. But those years where when boards like WI, SL, Zim went south big time. So money alone is not the answer.

I do though support the idea of giving money boards like WI, SL (not Zim). But should be monitored. ICC should help the boards setup a path to success and thrive. I will say 5-7 years of financial support. Give them the 3 years to implement the plan that they agreed to with ICC.

At the 3 year mark, ICC fully audits and checks things on the progress made. Make any adjustments needed. Continue to support them for another 2 years. At the 5 year mark they should be well on the way to self sufficiency. If things are going well, perhaps give them another year or two of financial support.

But if they have not made any progress after 5 years, then it is time call it a money pit. No point to pouring money at these type of situations. Cut your losses and focus resources elsewhere.
Okay fair enough. But is the ICC willing to do even that? I don't think so. The first step to solving a problem is admitting there is one.
 
With friends around, ICC tournaments (white ball).

Alone, Test cricket.
 
Okay fair enough. But is the ICC willing to do even that? I don't think so. The first step to solving a problem is admitting there is one.
The ICC has no inclination put in any effort. Because that would actually involve them working for their paycheck. They are perfectly happy just sitting back and have BCCI money fall in their laps. Rewards without any effort.
 
Tim Southee said on the sidelines of a cricket rating awards ceremony:

"So at this stage, obviously the franchise leagues and the franchise world is growing. It would be nice to see the international [boards] and the leagues working together in some way because, especially Test cricket, I think for a lot of players is still the pinnacle of the format."

"I guess it's the way that cricket is going and then the amount of T20 leagues that are popping up. To look at it from Kane and Devon's point of view, they're still committed to New Zealand cricket, and we've got nine Test matches coming up. So they're committed to those Test matches. So as far as the Test side is concerned, it's not too dissimilar. They're still going to be there even though they don't have a New Zealand contract."

"Format-wise, I think Test cricket is still the pinnacle for me and the format I hold closest to the heart."

"I really enjoy the T20, the Hundred format keeps you young, keeps you guessing, keeps you thinking and trying to improve your game, and your skill set, which helps across the other formats."
 
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