"The 2011 World Cup defeat to India still haunts me and makes me sad" : Shahid Afridi

[Asif321]

misbah and afridi have cost us worldcups
though misbah blunder overpowers afridis blunder

 

[SM1989]

Sarfraz redeemed that defeat at the Oval on 18 June 2017.

Afridi can now sleep in peace knowing that the defeat of Mohali was finally avenged at the grand stage.

 

[PakSarZameen]

Same, Shahid bhai. Same.

The 2nd greatest Pakistan v India encounter ever after 2003. The build-up to that game was something else.

 

[hafeezrocks]

Sarfraz redeemed that defeat at the Oval on 18 June 2017.

Afridi can now sleep in peace knowing that the defeat of Mohali was finally avenged at the grand stage.

Defeat at Mohali got avenged? Pakistan could have won the match in front of Indian Crowd and play the finals in Mumbai. Lost that opportunity.

 

[Oligochaetes]

Sarfraz redeemed that defeat at the Oval on 18 June 2017.

Afridi can now sleep in peace knowing that the defeat of Mohali was finally avenged at the grand stage.

Maybe Not

Sarfaraz might have avenged the loss in 1985 World CDhampionship Final.

Might even be equivalent to T20 World Cup Final.....

But Not World Cup semi final..... I feel thats a far valuable tournament...

 

[Sidilicious]

Maybe Not

Sarfaraz might have avenged the loss in 1985 World CDhampionship Final.

Might even be equivalent to T20 World Cup Final.....

But Not World Cup semi final..... I feel thats a far valuable tournament...

Why take sport that seriously. Its just a game of cricket. There is no need, and should not be any need for a vengeance. Pakistan lost to a team that played better cricket in the WC semi final. India lost to the better team in the CT final. If you always think about avenging a loss, then you will never be able to sleep properly.

 

[Oligochaetes]

Why take sport that seriously. Its just a game of cricket. There is no need, and should not be any need for a vengeance. Pakistan lost to a team that played better cricket in the WC semi final. India lost to the better team in the CT final. If you always think about avenging a loss, then you will never be able to sleep properly.

I sleep very well thanks.

I just meant that the champions trophy cant be compared to the ODI world cup, though I do feel this Pakistani side has a genuine shot at the World Cup.

Last, World Cup winning sequence was
1983 - India
1985 - Champions trophy - India
1987 - Australia
1992 - Pakistan...

This time
2011 - India
2013 - Champions trophy - India
2015 - Australia
2019 - Pakistan?

 

[Savak]

Misbah as punishment should be made to pay a special tax for life for that day.

 

[Syed1]

Misbah on the other hand sleeps like a baby....


"mission accomplished" - Misbah

 

[Savak]

Misbah on the other hand sleeps like a baby....


"mission accomplished" - Misbah

Mission Accomplished for Mohalli 2011? Spoken like a true Parosi

 

[Napa]

I was barely 12 when we lost that infamous match and it still haunts me. You're not alone lala

Just curious, what about this thread attracted your attention after 3+ years?

 

[Pete Rose]

2011 and 2015 held little interest for me tbh. I was probably most upset the 1999 World Cup and my interest pretty much faded after that. The 2011 World Cup held next to zero interest.

 

[big_gamer007]

I was barely 12 when we lost that infamous match and it still haunts me. You're not alone lala

Weird random bump I must say..

Anyways Pakistan will get plenty of chances they go in 2019 as one of the favourites and if I have to bet money I would bet on Pakistan rather than any other team including India.. Pakistan are top favourites long with India and Australia to win 2019 WC..

 

[PakSarZameen]

Weird random bump I must say..

Anyways Pakistan will get plenty of chances they go in 2019 as one of the favourites and if I have to bet money I would bet on Pakistan rather than any other team including India.. Pakistan are top favourites long with India and Australia to win 2019 WC..

May I remind you, in our last ODI series we lost 5-0.

 

[big_gamer007]

May I remind you, in our last ODI series we lost 5-0.

Doesn’t matter the current Pakistan team is a tournaments team not a bilateral team.. English conditions suit Pakistan and they will do well in WC mark my words if not India then Pakistan will win it..

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

I was barely 12 when we lost that infamous match and it still haunts me. You're not alone lala

That match ruined my board exams

Couldn't get out of the trauma for 5 weeks

 

[Send1983]

Why take sport that seriously. Its just a game of cricket. There is no need, and should not be any need for a vengeance. Pakistan lost to a team that played better cricket in the WC semi final. India lost to the better team in the CT final. If you always think about avenging a loss, then you will never be able to sleep properly.

You quoted the wrong person, I believe intentionally. Did you read the post he was responding to or again newbie Indian fans like us irritated you with our post, so decided to preach us?

 

[Napa]

Weird random bump I must say..

Anyways Pakistan will get plenty of chances they go in 2019 as one of the favourites and if I have to bet money I would bet on Pakistan rather than any other team including India.. Pakistan are top favourites long with India and Australia to win 2019 WC..

Pakistan definitely seems to perform best in England. With their young players coming good, they have a pretty decent chance of winning 2019 WC.

 

[Mp812]

I sleep very well thanks.

I just meant that the champions trophy cant be compared to the ODI world cup, though I do feel this Pakistani side has a genuine shot at the World Cup.

Last, World Cup winning sequence was
1983 - India
1985 - Champions trophy - India
1987 - Australia
1992 - Pakistan...

This time
2011 - India
2013 - Champions trophy - India
2015 - Australia
2019 - Pakistan?

It's a pattern

 

[shaz619]

Misbah as punishment should be made to pay a special tax for life for that day.

Misbah on the other hand sleeps like a baby....


"mission accomplished" - Misbah

That defeat can hardly be attributed to one man that's just highly ignorant and we have a heavy debt to pay him for all he has done for Pakistan cricket beyond that day.

Here's a small example:

As Captain

Tests

Became the first Pakistani Captain to win the mace en-route to attaining the no.1 ranking after drawing a 4 match Test series level in England vs England, this victory was also special given that Pakistan became the first team to win 2 Tests against England in England during a 4 match series since South Africa's Triumph in 2008.

Maintains an undefeated record over England in Test series, the last time England beat Pakistan was prior to Misbah ul Haq's reign as captain during the controversial 2010 series.

Only Asian captain to win 4 or more Test matches against England.

First Pakistani captain who white washed England in Pakistan's 58 years cricket history in 2012 in UAE.

Misbah ul Haq has never lost a Test series in the UAE and has dominated teams for almost a decade in the dessert.

Misbah ul Haq became the first Pakistani to win a Test Series in the West Indies.

He is the most successful Pakistan captain with 26 Test wins and the most successful Asian Test captain as well having won eleven Test series.

Limited Format

First captain from South Asia to defeat South Africa in South Africa in an ODI series.

Only second captain from Pakistan to win the Asia Cup in 2012.

Defeated India in India during an ODI series.

As a player

Tests

Fastest fifty in Tests (21 Balls) completed in 24 minutes against Australia in Abu Dhabi.

Equalled the fastest century in Tests (56 balls) against Australia on 2 November 2014 in Abu Dhabi. Remains the second fastest in history.

Eighth Pakistani player to hit centuries in both innings of a test match.

Most Test centuries by a Pakistan Test captain (8).

The first batsman to make a Test hundred after the age of 41 since Geoffrey Boycott in 1981.

Misbah holds the record for scoring the most test runs as Pakistani captain.

Most sixes hit by a Captain in Test Cricket (72).

At Lord’s during the 2016 Test series against England in England Misbah was not merely the only batsman in the game to make a hundred, but the oldest to score a Test century since 1934, and the oldest captain ever to make one.

Limited Forms

Most ODI fifties (15) in a calendar year (2013)

Leading run scorer in ODIs during 2013.

He has the best batting average for any batsman without a career ODI hundred and with an aggregate of 5000 ODI runs (43.40).

Most half centuries without making an ODI century – Misbah has 42 half-centuries without a single century.

Holds the record for scoring the most number of runs in ODI cricket without a career hundred. Also, the only player to score 4000 as well as 5000 ODI runs without a career century.

Misbah ul Haq was the 3rd highest run scorer in the 2007 World T20 with 218 runs at an average of 54.50.

Misbah ul Haq was the 6th highest run scorer in the 2013 ICC Champions Trophy with an average of 86.50 (2nd highest).

In the 2011 World Cup, Misbah ul Haq was Pakistan's highest run scorer with 248 runs at an average of 50.

In the 2015 World Cup, Misbah ul Haq was once again Pakistan's highest run scorer with 350 runs at an average of 50; this time he also finished in the top 10 leading run scorers list.

Other Special Recognition's

Pride of performance award - President of Islamic Republic Pakistan Mamnoon Hussain awarded Misbah-ul-Haq thw pride of performance award on 23 March, 2014.

Received the prestigious Wisden Cricketer of the Year award in 2017.

Won the ICC Spirit Cricketer of the Year award in 2016.

Misbah has an MBA degree in HRM from the University of Management and Technology in Lahore, Punjab.

Misbah earned his Undergraduate BSc degree in Faisalabad, it was in double Maths and Physics.

Final thoughts

Misbah ul Haq's achievements are unprecedented and beyond his prowess on the cricket pitch he conducted himself with the utmost honour and dignity which was key in restoring respect to the country of Pakistan after the humiliating spot-fixing saga.

Misbah would become a great ambassador for Pakistan cricket and won the hearts of the international cricket community not only through his on field performances but due to his chivalry.

We salute him and will forever remain in debt to his monumental contributions, he remains an inspiration and role model not only for Pakistani's but all those around the world. Hard work, perseverance and honestly inevitably pay off so long you never give up and remain honourable; Misbah is the every man who has proved that despite all odds on a personal and professional level one can truly attain greatness.

Misbah ul Haq is the people's champion and we will never forget his contributions, take a bow sir and we can't thank you enough!

You got to be the biggest nonce of all time to berate the legend, then again Pakistan fans never surprise you.

[MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION]

 

[Third_Umpire]

Yeah I bet it haunts. Dropping Tendulkar 4 times, couldn't chase 260-odd, that match (and the world cup) was gifted on a platter to India.

 

[Savage]

Same, Shahid bhai. Same.

The 2nd greatest Pakistan v India encounter ever after 2003.The build-up to that game was something else.

That 2003WC match was very special indeed.One of my earliest cricketing memory.

Kohli would be under huge pressure to maintain that streak.

 

[Greenstorm]

One of the worst days of my life. Afridi, Misbah and Younis were never the same again in my eyes despite of latter two's accomplishment in test cricket.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

But I expected nothing better from you.

Getting out on a full toss, kia baat hai.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

One of the worst days of my life. Afridi, Misbah and Younis were never the same again in my eyes despite of latter two's accomplishment in test cricket.

Same here, I would have forgiven them as win/lose is a part of game but they selfishly clung on to our limited overs sides for 5 years and as a result we remained mediocre. Pakistan always have and always will produce talented cricketers but these 'legends' didn't allow and had a monopoly. Can't believe when Pak fans rate them. That was Hafeez level selfishness.

 

[Dingolfy]

Yeah I bet it haunts. Dropping Tendulkar 4 times, couldn't chase 260-odd, that match (and the world cup) was gifted on a platter to India.

Pakistani fielders dropping catches was not a novelty till recently and you have to thank Sachin for slowing down the run rate. Yuvi was striking form that tournament and he got a brute of a ball from Riaz. Had he come earlier, you would have had to chase a bigger score.
But what surprises me is that, Pakistanis still rue that as a winnable game. Dude, how many times have you chased a 250 plus score successfully against non-minnows? Even now, yours batsman struggle to chase. Then how in the hell would you expect them to chase 266 on a sluggish pitch against Arch rivals India, in India during a bloody WC semi-final. Your batsmen had to play out of the ordinary to get that and unfortunately they couldn't do it. As simple as that.

 

[BouncerGuy]

On this day, India defeated Pakistan once again in an ICC tournament but this time it was the Semi-final of the ICC ODI World Cup 2011. Misbah played a turtle-paced inning that day, one of the main reasons Pakistan lost the game.

To this day, I believe that it was the best possible chance for Pakistan to beat India at the ODI world cup but Misbah halted the process of victory IMO.

 

[Hitman]

Imagine if Pakistan won that match. They would have probably won that WC. And that would have been a bigger achievement than their 92' WC win.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Imagine if Pakistan won that match. They would have probably won that WC. And that would have been a bigger achievement than their 92' WC win.

absolutely right. 2011 team was packed with some star players. Best team that should have defeated India in that game.

 

[mominsaigol]

absolutely right. 2011 team was packed with some star players. Best team that should have defeated India in that game.

Not really.

2011 was a nothing team that solely relied on bowlers and not very good ones at that besides the obvious chuckers and umar gul.

They managed to beat an all star Sri lankan team and overcame the undefeated Australian streak mainly because they were all gelled and united. Everyone played for the crest on their chest but sadly choked.

This current clique and political drama has been our downfall since 2018.

 

[FearlessRoar]

It still haunts me too. no idea what happened to our team while chasing an easy target

 

[160KPH]

It still haunts me too. no idea what happened to our team while chasing an easy target

I still remember Hafeez looked incredible and was timing it so well. Then, out of no where he went for a paddle sweep and got out. Afridi got out to a high full toss. Younis Khan scored 13(32).

Everyone always blames Misbah for that defeat, but I always felt there was plenty of blame to go around.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

A nothing, garbage team with horrendous white ball batters like Misbah, YK and Asad Shafiq.

Without chuckers Hafeez and Ajmal, that side would have been even worse.

PAK, on form and ability , should have beaten us in 1992 and 1999.

We were the better side in every other World Cup

 

[Pakpak]

A nothing, garbage team with horrendous white ball batters like Misbah, YK and Asad Shafiq.

Without chuckers Hafeez and Ajmal, that side would have been even worse.

PAK, on form and ability , should have beaten us in 1992 and 1999.

We were the better side in every other World Cup

And should have beaten you in 1996. Absolutely choked there. After Waqar's brain fade, Sohail and Anwar had done the hard work, we were something like 80 after 9 and 113/1 after 15 overs, needing a measly 150 from 35 overs. Pathetic choke if there was any.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

And should have beaten you in 1996. Absolutely choked there. After Waqar's brain fade, Sohail and Anwar had done the hard work, we were something like 80 after 9 and 113/1 after 15 overs, needing a measly 150 from 35 overs. Pathetic choke if there was any.

Many say that but I'm not convinced PAK were that much better in 96.

We had SRT, Sidhu, Jadeja, Azhar, Kumble, Srinath at their peak.

And we had better form going into the tournament than PAK.

PAK maybe were better on paper but their ODI form had been patchy for more than a year.

 

[Statpadder Inc]

That team was filled with some of the worst odi batsmen in history and were historically poor chasers and people expected them to chase 260 in a wc semi-final in India's den

 

[Pakpak]

Many say that but I'm not convinced PAK were that much better in 96.

We had SRT, Sidhu, Jadeja, Azhar, Kumble, Srinath at their peak.

And we had better form going into the tournament than PAK.

PAK maybe were better on paper but their ODI form had been patchy for more than a year.

We had a massive streak against India barring 1992 WC game. And the position we were in we should have easily won. Anwar, Wasim, Sohail, Mushtaq were better or as good as anything you had those days. Not sure why that's even a debate considering the utter dominance Pakistan had over India those years from Sharjah to Canada. In 96 WC only team we were beaten by was SA (and their streak was 14-15 over us)

Even if that wasn't a debate the match should have been done by 35 overs considering the ridiculous start we got

 

[Nikhil_cric]

We had a massive streak against India barring 1992 WC game. And the position we were in we should have easily won. Anwar, Wasim, Sohail, Mushtaq were better or as good as anything you had those days. Not sure why that's even a debate considering the utter dominance Pakistan had over India those years from Sharjah to Canada. In 96 WC only team we were beaten by was SA (and their streak was 14-15 over us)

Even if that wasn't a debate the match should have been done by 35 overs considering the ridiculous start we got

Maybe but between 1994-1996 , India were pretty strong. You can look at the historical rankings from that time and I think India were ranked #2 or #3 going into the World Cup and higher than Pakistan at the time.

 

[Pakpak]

Maybe but between 1994-1996 , India were pretty strong. You can look at the historical rankings from that time and I think India were ranked #2 or #3 going into the World Cup and higher than Pakistan at the time.

Between start of 1994 to the WC:

SA WL 1.64, Pakistan 1.59 Aus 1.3 India 1.1

Between the same period India played us 12 times and lost 8

So I am not sure what you mean. There is no Indian team in the 90s in ODIs who was better than ours for any significant period of time. Had we not choked and lost stupidly against you in 1996 we had a great chance to win the entire thing and end up in the final of 92, 96 and 99 which other than Aus and Windies no team has done.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Between start of 1994 to the WC:

SA WL 1.64, Pakistan 1.59 Aus 1.3 India 1.1

Between the same period India played us 12 times and lost 8

So I am not sure what you mean. There is no Indian team in the 90s in ODIs who was better than ours for any significant period of time. Had we not choked and lost stupidly against you in 1996 we had a great chance to win the entire thing and end up in the final of 92, 96 and 99 which other than Aus and Windies no team has done.

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These are the ICC rankings from the time . If you look at Feb and March 1996, we were ranked 2nd in the world in ODIs.

PAK 5th .

PAK should not have been expected to easily best India in that particular World Cup based on that.

 

[mominsaigol]

International Cricket Council - Match Zone - Team Ranking

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These are the ICC rankings from the time . If you look at Feb and March 1996, we were ranked 2nd in the world in ODIs.

PAK 5th .

PAK should not have been expected to easily best India in that particular World Cup based on that.

Ahhh back when icc rankings actually meant something.

The good old days. Too bad league ruined it, now icc rankings are a joke with everyone being swip swopped per month.

 

[Pakpak]

International Cricket Council - Match Zone - Team Ranking

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These are the ICC rankings from the time . If you look at Feb and March 1996, we were ranked 2nd in the world in ODIs.

PAK 5th .

PAK should not have been expected to easily best India in that particular World Cup based on that.

They did. I showed the 2 years, your timeline, the WL loss before the WC, including H2H for both Pakistan vs India. In both cases Pakistan were easily on form. And should have beaten India after the start we had. And especially our good form IN India, the following year we toured India where Anwar hit the 194 and did well in all limited over games.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

They did. I showed the 2 years, your timeline, the WL loss before the WC, including H2H for both Pakistan vs India. In both cases Pakistan were easily on form. And should have beaten India after the start we had. And especially our good form IN India, the following year we toured India where Anwar hit the 194 and did well in all limited over games.

Your stats are wrong from beginning of 1994 to CWC 1996. India had the highest W/L ratio from amongst all teams.

 

[AMSS]

Lmao, why isn't afridi haunted by the humiliation India dished out in 1999, 2003 and 2015? He was typically useless in all those matches too.

 

[mominsaigol]

Lmao, why isn't afridi haunted by the humiliation India dished out in 1999, 2003 and 2015? He was typically useless in all those matches too.

Because in 2011 we had a genuine chance of us beating them, in the other games we had no chance, so theirs no disappointment to be had.

 

[captain.hansolo]

A nothing, garbage team with horrendous white ball batters like Misbah, YK and Asad Shafiq.

Without chuckers Hafeez and Ajmal, that side would have been even worse.

PAK, on form and ability , should have beaten us in 1992 and 1999.

We were the better side in every other World Cup

1996 pakistani team was better too, and were it not for amir sohail's hubris, they may have won. and they absolutely would have elected to bat first at eden garden.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

1996 pakistani team was better too, and were it not for amir sohail's hubris, they may have won. and they absolutely would have elected to bat first at eden garden.

Yeah well you are entitled to your opinion but that team was very vulnerable . They had past it guys like Rameez, Salim Malik and Miandad in that middle order. Inzi was a massive underperformer and Rashid was no Moin with the bat.

Like I said, maybe they were better on paper but it was not a given that they could beat a higher ranked side.

Pakistan had a terrible 17 months before the World Cup where they didn't win anything.

Lost quadrangular in Lanka(won by India), lost two consecutive finals in Mandela trophy to South Africa, lost triangular final at home to Australia, couldn't beat Zimbabwe (1-1) , couldn't make finals of Asia Cup 1995( India and SL), couldn't make finals of Sharjah Champions Trophy (SL and WI did) , lost bilateral series to SL at home and couldn't beat NZ(2-2)

They didn't have form, they didn't have a performing middle order etc .

 

[captain.hansolo]

Yeah well you are entitled to your opinion but that team was very vulnerable . They had past it guys like Rameez, Salim Malik and Miandad in that middle order. Inzi was a massive underperformer and Rashid was no Moin with the bat.

Like I said, maybe they were better on paper but it was not a given that they could beat a higher ranked side.

Pakistan had a terrible 17 months before the World Cup where they didn't win anything.

Lost quadrangular in Lanka(won by India), lost two consecutive finals in Mandela trophy to South Africa, lost triangular final at home to Australia, couldn't beat Zimbabwe (1-1) , couldn't make finals of Asia Cup 1995( India and SL), couldn't make finals of Sharjah Champions Trophy (SL and WI did) , lost bilateral series to SL at home and couldn't beat NZ(2-2)

They didn't have form, they didn't have a performing middle order etc .

Don’t get me wrong, the strength of the Pakistani side was just based on projected strength due to some hard hitting batsmen and scorching fast bowlers, in actual application they were mediocre at best. I would fancy the chances of the 1996 Indian team against their 1996 Pakistani counterpart 10 times out of 10, in part since India were a lot more cohesive. Especially with the bowling attack of Venkatesh, Srinath and Kumble and top order held up by a Tendulkar in his prime. Hell even the 1999 Pakistani team did not inspire any reverence even though they arrived at the quarterfinals with an unblemished record, and this was abundantly made clear in their poor performance in the quarters, and their meek surrender in the final.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Between start of 1994 to the WC:

SA WL 1.64, Pakistan 1.59 Aus 1.3 India 1.1

Between the same period India played us 12 times and lost 8

So I am not sure what you mean. There is no Indian team in the 90s in ODIs who was better than ours for any significant period of time. Had we not choked and lost stupidly against you in 1996 we had a great chance to win the entire thing and end up in the final of 92, 96 and 99 which other than Aus and Windies no team has done.

Pakistani team did not choke, Aamir lost his humility, thinking that striking a bowler for a boundary entitled him to declare himself a victor in the contest. The rest of the game, the first innings and the 35 last overs of the second innings were not a choke, they were a a comprehensive display of one team performing better than the other. Heck had Aamir or anwar been dismissed early to some freak incident, Pakistan would have lost by a margin greater than 100

 

[Pakpak]

Pakistani team did not choke, Aamir lost his humility, thinking that striking a bowler for a boundary entitled him to declare himself a victor in the contest. The rest of the game, the first innings and the 35 last overs of the second innings were not a choke, they were a a comprehensive display of one team performing better than the other. Heck had Aamir or anwar been dismissed early to some freak incident, Pakistan would have lost by a margin greater than 100

This doesn't make sense


You can say this about 1999 too. One team performed much better than the other. You can say this about 2011 too. Where despite Misbahs tuktuk every batsman failed.

Literally can say this about every game come under choking

 

[DeadlyVenom]

This game haunts me too. I watched with a large group of friends. There was euphoria when Wahab cleaned up Yuvraj.

And then over by over it slowly sank in that this was going to be painful.