The Asia Cup games against Pakistan could be the best eye-openers for India

[ftbno1]

In 2011 WC SF we were rocked by Wahab Riaz but were saved by late flourish from Raina.

In final rebuilding from Gambhir and Kohli helped us from opening setback.

Actually India never played with full potential in 2011 but found heroes at right time.

Cut to 2019 WC when our top 3 couldn't put a foot wrong if they wanted. We were number one in league phase but were blown away after top order perished.

The problem was not in lack talent but lack of exposure.

The strength of team especially in LOI is in back of batting order.

So this dip in form of our GOATs will help lower order to flourish and help us in long run.

(PS: Rahul is not a GOAT. Pant Or SKY should be in top 3.Hooda in place of DK. Bowling line up in which is Bhuvi is third bowler after BumrahShami & we are set)

 

[Smbhayi]

Lol why everyone want to replace DK? He's in top form and doing well atm.. he's deserved his place in the team atm..

 

[Ab Fan]

Hooda's technique is only a matter of time before getting exposed and he is more of a middle order batsman and not a finisher.

The job that DK does is a hard one and chances of failure is higher there so needs to consider that before scrutinizing.

Regarding the games vs Pakistan is concerned, it is indeed an eye opener. Any game vs a top team in ICC tournaments is an eye opener because in bilaterals, half of the players are tested from both sides and they only play full strength in Tests.

 

[ftbno1]

Lol why everyone want to replace DK? He's in top form and doing well atm.. he's deserved his place in the team atm..

Keeping DK and leaving out Pant is Cukoo with a very big C. Are you serious?? Guy was a commentator twelve months back. Why don't we try Dravid?? I am sure he will score at least half century against HK.

 

[ftbno1]

Hooda's technique is only a matter of time before getting exposed and he is more of a middle order batsman and not a finisher.

The job that DK does is a hard one and chances of failure is higher there so needs to consider that before scrutinizing.

Regarding the games vs Pakistan is concerned, it is indeed an eye opener. Any game vs a top team in ICC tournaments is an eye opener because in bilaterals, half of the players are tested from both sides and they only play full strength in Tests.

When and where has DK shown this compact technique. Against Soumyo Sarkar whom he hit for six??If not hooda then some one else but certainly not him bhai. We already have hardik and jadeja how many more finishers we need??

 

[Smbhayi]

Keeping DK and leaving out Pant is Cukoo with a very big C. Are you serious?? Guy was a commentator twelve months back. Why don't we try Dravid?? I am sure he will score at least half century against HK.

Is Dravid still playing? Pant can replace anyone in yesterday's top 3.. not DK..

 

[ftbno1]

I don't understand rooting for DK.What had he ever done other than that six. international cricket is not IPL. Otherwise Asnodkar would have become legend. Try someone young who has not been a constant failure.

 

[Ab Fan]

When and where has DK shown this compact technique. Against Soumyo Sarkar whom he hit for six??If not hooda then some one else but certainly not him bhai. We already have hardik and jadeja how many more finishers we need??

DK has a pretty specific role of 360 degree finisher. It is a specialist role in limited overs and should be designated to specialist players. He can start hitting right away and play those 13 ball 31 knock. This is the role which he is doing superbly currently, what he did years ago is not relevant here. What he is doing now is what matters.

Jadeja has never been a good finisher with bat for us. He always needs time to get himself in and that's why he is better suited to batting higher up the order. With no Pant, Jadeja is a left hander who should bat at 4 or 5.

Pandya is a good finisher but he too has his share of weakness. He is a power hitter and some days his hitting will not come off. We need two guys for the finisher role, one a power hitter and another a range hitting player.

The way it is now for Indian team, they have three options -

1. Play Pant at 4 and then have SKY and Pandya as two finishers.

2. Play Jadeja at 4/5 and then have Pandya and DK as two finishers.

3. Drop KLR, open with Kohli. SKY comes at 3, Pant at 4, Pandya 5, DK 6 and Jadeja.

Hooda should only come when Jadeja is injured or we want to drop Jadeja.

 

[JaDed]

I don't understand rooting for DK.What had he ever done other than that six. international cricket is not IPL. Otherwise Asnodkar would have become legend. Try someone young who has not been a constant failure.

He was good in 2007 Eng test series as well.

 

[JaDed]

Rohit gets to play because he is captain, Kohli will be a liability for us in this tournament.

Rahul is Rahul, we dropped Robin Uthappa for much lesser hut continue with him.

DK should play but I agree Pant should come in but in place of Kohli/Rahul.

I also think Bishnoi should play.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Rohit gets to play because he is captain, Kohli will be a liability for us in this tournament.

Rahul is Rahul, we dropped Robin Uthappa for much lesser hut continue with him.

DK should play but I agree Pant should come in but in place of Kohli/Rahul.

I also think Bishnoi should play.

Yeah. Pant has to play ahead of one of those 2. Left hander us crucial in top 3

 

[JaDed]

Yeah. Pant has to play ahead of one of those 2. Left hander us crucial in top 3

Exactly that was something Dhawan did before and it worked for us and Pant will suit in the top 3.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Exactly that was something Dhawan did before and it worked for us and Pant will suit in the top 3.

It is especially crucial for us because we don't have good hitters against away spin. Our bats don't play reverse sweep and switch hit.

You need a left hander to take down SLA and leg spin bowling . As per Freddie Wilde of Cricviz , Jadeja in the last 2 years has a pathetic strike rate of 82 against left arm and leg spin.

We nearly lost yesterday because our batsmen were completely choked by shadab.

 

[shamaan]

When and where has DK shown this compact technique. Against Soumyo Sarkar whom he hit for six??If not hooda then some one else but certainly not him bhai. We already have hardik and jadeja how many more finishers we need??

Dk is the better keeper out of the two azwell.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I don't understand rooting for DK.What had he ever done other than that six. international cricket is not IPL. Otherwise Asnodkar would have become legend. Try someone young who has not been a constant failure.

What has Pant done in T20Is lol?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

DK has a pretty specific role of 360 degree finisher. It is a specialist role in limited overs and should be designated to specialist players. He can start hitting right away and play those 13 ball 31 knock. This is the role which he is doing superbly currently, what he did years ago is not relevant here. What he is doing now is what matters.

Jadeja has never been a good finisher with bat for us. He always needs time to get himself in and that's why he is better suited to batting higher up the order. With no Pant, Jadeja is a left hander who should bat at 4 or 5.

Pandya is a good finisher but he too has his share of weakness. He is a power hitter and some days his hitting will not come off. We need two guys for the finisher role, one a power hitter and another a range hitting player.

The way it is now for Indian team, they have three options -

1. Play Pant at 4 and then have SKY and Pandya as two finishers.

2. Play Jadeja at 4/5 and then have Pandya and DK as two finishers.

3. Drop KLR, open with Kohli. SKY comes at 3, Pant at 4, Pandya 5, DK 6 and Jadeja.

Hooda should only come when Jadeja is injured or we want to drop Jadeja.

Pant at 4? How many more chances will he get now? Jaddu should bat at 4. He won us the match yesterday.

 

[Ab Fan]

Pant at 4? How many more chances will he get now? Jaddu should bat at 4. He won us the match yesterday.

No, he didn't . He played a supporting role and bottled at the last moment. He has always played a match losing knock all his career.

Pandya was the real match winner with both bat and bowl.

Pant and Pandya, the brothers of destruction. They will bury the opposition in a casket and light it up with fire. Jadeja is more like Miz and MVP, a decent support player on his day.

 

[Mp812]

In all probability , KL Rahul due to his bad form may get replaced by Pant ( if Left handed option in top 5 needed) Alternatively since UAE is offering some turn ,then Deepak Hooda may come in ( considering he is in form with the bat and can bowl 2 overs of spin as well if needed) . Kohli in that scenario might open , Surya at 3 followed by Hooda at 4 depending on game situation. Jadeja/Pandya/Kartik are floaters who can play anywhere between 4 to 8 positions as and when needed. Ideally Avesh should be replaced by Deepak Chahar but I think Chhar is not in the 15 iirc.

 

[pratiktc]

Lol to posters asking KLR to be replaced.
He is the vice captain and the most talented white ball striker in Indian team. There is no way his position is under question.

Thankfully selectors and team mgmt have better knowledge of player capability than fans

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I'm glad that the current management under Dravid is following a very specific approach . India were below par I the field and slightly below par with the ball on that wicket especially at the death due to Arshdeep's inexperience .

A par or above par performance in the field would have ensured Pakistan did not score more than 135.

In the mid innings break, Bhuvi said as much when he said that they had given 12-15 runs too many. Clearly, they are identifying their shortcomings accurately instead of endless speculation.

 

[ftbno1]

My problem with DK is that he is 20 steps backwards. We are repeating mistake pf of 2019 when we persisted with MS

 

[MenInG]

While India registered a memorable five-wicket win against Pakistan in the Asia Cup 2022 on Sunday, there were a few headaches for the side too which they would want to sort out going forward. Going into the humdinger, the focus was on India's top three and all three -- K L Rahul (0), Rohit Sharma (12 off 18) and Virat Kohli (35 off 34) -- did not have the best of times in the middle. Though Kohli showed signs of returning to form, he rode his luck on occasions. Former Indian cricket team captain Sunil Gavaskar felt that the players need to score big.

"Rahul played just one ball, so you can't judge anything from that. Rohit and Kohli had the opportunity to bat for some time, they got runs. All these earlier times when people were talking about Kohli's form, I kept on saying that he is not having any luck.

"Today, he had a lot of luck, drop catches, a lot of inside edges, which went so close to the stumps, he had the luck. But he did capitalise on it and played some very fine shots," Gavaskar was quoted as saying to India Today.

"But one had expected that with the kind of start that he had, he should have got around 60-70. He got out immediately after Rohit got out. Both of them got out to forgettable shots. At that stage, those shots were not necessary as the asking rate wasn't 19 or 20 for them to attempt sixes at that stage," Gavaskar stated.

"It was required for them to get going, get to 70-80 and then maybe go for the big shots. That should be learning from this game," he added.

In the match, Hardik Pandya produced a special all-round effort as India held nerves to pull off an exciting five-wicket win over arch-rivals Pakistan in their Asia Cup opener here on Sunday. Hardik (3/25 in 4 overs) showed his high value under extreme pressure as his well-directed short balls helped India bowl out Pakistan for 147.

It should have been straight forward chase but India's experienced top-three faltered, putting extra pressure on the middle order.

Hardik (33 not out off 17) and Ravindra Jadeja (35 off 29) then shared a 52-run stand to take India on the cusp of a famous win. The star all-rounder's three fours off Haris Rauf off the 19th over effectively sealed the game for India.

With the team needing 6 off three balls, Hardik finished the game with a six off left-arm spinner Mohammad Nawaz.

https://sports.ndtv.com/asia-cup-20...rohit-sharmas-performance-vs-pakistan-3298565

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

No, he didn't . He played a supporting role and bottled at the last moment. He has always played a match losing knock all his career.

Pandya was the real match winner with both bat and bowl.

Pant and Pandya, the brothers of destruction. They will bury the opposition in a casket and light it up with fire. Jadeja is more like Miz and MVP, a decent support player on his day.

In T20s, Pandya and Pant are like Finlay and Hornswoggle respectively. Jaddu on the other hand is like HBK, always giving sweet chin music to his haters.

 

[ftbno1]

Pant is on a different level. Innings he has already played many won't play in their entire career. Give him time he will be ATG in all three formats. Dropping him when Rahul, Kohli & Rohit are struggling is bonkers.
DK is a good IPl player but to pick him in Indian eleven??
And we say we have talent pool?? Come on??

 

[Rajdeep]

For tomorrow's game against Hong Kong, I would play the below team and see how it goes

Rohit (c)
Pant (wk)
Kohli
Rahul
Suryakumar
Pandya
Jadeja
Ashwin
Bishnoi
Bhuvi
Arshdeep

 

[Ab Fan]

Pandya is making a strong case for India'a T20 all time XI. Bowling average of 26 and batting strike rate of 145 with average around 24.

 

[JaDed]

Pandya is making a strong case for India'a T20 all time XI. Bowling average of 26 and batting strike rate of 145 with average around 24.

Only if PP allowed user name changes you could change it to HP Fan which could btw mean so many things lol

 

[PakLFC]

India will always produce class batsmen in particular so stop cutting your wrists Pandya did well then there are the likes of Kohli who performed well against us and Rohit too. Also Pant sitting on the subs bench bids well for India too. Where are the promising Gill and Shaw these days?

 

[Ab Fan]

Only if PP allowed user name changes you could change it to HP Fan which could btw mean so many things lol

Post your India 's T20 all-time XI and then we can discuss!

And no, I was never a Pandya fan. Only started admiring him from this year because of the way he was able to change things around after recovering from injury. He has been an impact player and biggest match winner at present moment for India in LOIs.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Post your India 's T20 all-time XI and then we can discuss!

And no, I was never a Pandya fan. Only started admiring him from this year because of the way he was able to change things around after recovering from injury. He has been an impact player and biggest match winner at present moment for India in LOIs.

Didn't you give a weightage of 5% or 10% to T20s? Based on your weightage, don't you think you are overreacting here with the all time T20 XI. Who even cares about all time T20 XI anyway except a self proclaimed test purist like you?

And please don't lie that you have started admiring Pandya from this year. All Pandya threads are still alive. One can see clearly for how long you have been admiring him. You are not committing a crime by admiring him though so just chill.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

[MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION]
We are well on the track of winning 3 outta 3.

1 gone, 2 to go.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

We should win the other two matches convincingly if we allow Pant to open and play Rahul at no.5, get rid of DK.