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The best young bowler at the CT 2017 : Starc/Amir/Mustafizur/Rabada/Bhuvneshwar/Other

I think it will be Rabada, Pace & Accuracy, good bowling action and wicket taking capability.

After him will be Amir, replicating his old form. He is slowly getting his rhythm back.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
He will play 3 matches and your minnow team will get crushed each time. This is champions trophy not Dhaka premier league :91:
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yes sure buddy whatever makes you happy in your own made world cause he averages much better against best teams he played internationally so far compare to Dhaka premier, get your fact right before start to laugh at someone else by making yourself a joke by self proclaim statements.

calling others minnow seems very much fits you by your mental standard.
 
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In England, bowlers who can move ball both ways, will be successful. Bowlers who just bowl fast, won't be so.
 
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Jaspreet bumrah. He will show his class at the big stage with those lethal Yorkers
 
Zak_Fan said:
Has a better international record than any of your trundlers. :uakmal
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In all seriousness I am really looking forward to seeing him bowl though.

Heard a lot about fast bowlers from India being better than our lot from a few posters here especially from [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] , I don't necessarily watch Indian games so I can just go by what posters tell me here.....

Having said that and going by such reports Indians should comfortably out bowl our boys !!

Are you confident they can match their leading pace contemporaries ?? And no I am not talking about Pakistani fast bowlers since we are at the bottom of the barrel right now....

Your Thoughts ??
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
In all seriousness I am really looking forward to seeing him bowl though.

Heard a lot about fast bowlers from India being better than our lot from a few posters here especially from [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] , I don't necessarily watch Indian games so I can just go by what posters tell me here.....

Having said that and going by such reports Indians should comfortably out bowl our boys !!

Are you confident they can match their leading pace contemporaries ?? And no I am not talking about Pakistani fast bowlers since we are at the bottom of the barrel right now....

Your Thoughts ??
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It has been the case in almost every single tournament in the last many years.
 
Zak_Fan said:
It has been the case in almost every single tournament in the last many years.
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And am I disputing that ?? Funny how in the entire post you pointed the single thing that we both had no problems in agreeing on......
 
Don't know about best bowler overall, but I am sure Hassan Ali would outperform Amir
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
And am I disputing that ?? Funny how in the entire post you pointed the single thing that we both had no problems in agreeing on......
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In the post above, you look forward to seeing him bowl because you have heard good things about him from other posters.

But 5 months ago, this is what you had to say about him -

ahmedwaqas92 said:
A Chucking Indian Fast Bowler, but even with the latter the blokes trundles like there is no tomorrow. Waste of Space to be honest
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ughts-on-Jasprit-Bumrah&p=9065473#post9065473
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So tell me, how am I supposed to take a troll seriously?
 
Zak_Fan said:
In the post above, you look forward to seeing him bowl because you have heard good things about him from other posters.

But 5 months ago, this is what you had to say about him -



So tell me, how am I supposed to take a troll seriously?
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Every athlete has room for improvement, you are quoting something I said 5 months ago not 5 days ago. Hassan Ali when he came into the squad was no more than a 135kph bowler and now look at him......

People improve in a competitive environment and Bumrrah can improve too.....It's not something totally out of the realm of possibility you know......
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Every athlete has room for improvement, you are quoting something I said 5 months ago not 5 days ago. Hassan Ali when he came into the squad was no more than a 135kph bowler and now look at him......

People improve in a competitive environment and Bumrrah can improve too.....It's not something totally out of the realm of possibility you know......
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So you have watched most of his career, and you clearly have a lot more to go by than what posters have been saying.

Everything about him is the same today, so there is no reason for your views to be any different now.
 
Zak_Fan said:
So you have watched most of his career, and you clearly have a lot more to go by than what posters have been saying.

Everything about him is the same today, so there is no reason for your views to be any different now.
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Yes Bumrah is one of the better death bowlers in the world at the moment but I dont know why I find him pretty uneasy to watch due to his action which seems clean and pretty effective but very unorthodox. Yes Indian bowling attack has improved a lot and is good.

As others have mentioned Hassan Ali is the guy to look out for along with other obvious choices. He has got everything as a pace bowler one can ask for other than height (but than we have Dale Steyn). He has got swing with the new ball, he can clock upto 140-145. He bowls exceptional cutters and slow bowls, can reverse swing the ball (One of the best components of this art I have seen after a long time) and bowl excellent yorkers as well.
 
I have a feeling it will be fizz again. Even after injury he has been bowling really well. A lethal cutter, in swinger, Yorker.

And line length impeccable
 
Starc>bumrah>Rabada>Fizz.

Even though I like fizz but I think he's the least talented among these four.

He doesn't swing the ball and hardly gets any seam movement from the pitch either. But yes, he has an excellent fast arm action. I love watching him bowl.
 
Coconut said:
Starc>bumrah>Rabada>Fizz.

Even though I like fizz but I think he's the least talented among these four.

He doesn't swing the ball and hardly gets any seam movement from the pitch either. But yes, he has an excellent fast arm action. I love watching him bowl.
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Rabada ahead of Bumrah :)))
 
Executioner said:
I have a feeling it will be fizz again. Even after injury he has been bowling really well. A lethal cutter, in swinger, Yorker.

And line length impeccable
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I also have the same feeling.Fizz is getting in the groove yet again.But to be the Fizz of pre-injury era it will take some more time.Day by day he is improving, it is not easy to perform right at the time coming from post surgery rehab.After just one game of belting in IPL,many were saying that Fizz is no more and batsmen have picked up his cutters.Fizz performs not only by virtue of cutters, he has very good yorkers, inswing to left handers and out swing to right handers and above all very good control of line and length.What he should develop is inswing to right handers which he dont possess at the moment.
 
Coconut said:
Starc>bumrah>Rabada>Fizz.

Even though I like fizz but I think he's the least talented among these four.

He doesn't swing the ball and hardly gets any seam movement from the pitch either. But yes, he has an excellent fast arm action. I love watching him bowl.
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Rabada is much better than Bumrah.
 
If Bumrah had been of Pakistan, he would have been banned up till now for illegal bowling action.
 
Mainul said:
I also have the same feeling.Fizz is getting in the groove yet again.But to be the Fizz of pre-injury era it will take some more time.Day by day he is improving, it is not easy to perform right at the time coming from post surgery rehab.After just one game of belting in IPL,many were saying that Fizz is no more and batsmen have picked up his cutters.Fizz performs not only by virtue of cutters, he has very good yorkers, inswing to left handers and out swing to right handers and above all very good control of line and length.What he should develop is inswing to right handers which he dont possess at the moment.
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He bowled a few inswinging deliveries in this series. Got Ross Taylor out with a beauty
 
Mohammed Amir, He loves bowling in England, no one has figured out Amir. Kohli vs Amir ( Round 2)
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
His action is the worst I have ever seen for a fast bowler. Its like watching Fawad bat.
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I do not have much idea about the mechanics of fast bowling action but I do not think Bumrah will have a long career if he continues with the same action.His action looks too heavy and burdensome.
 
Amir and pat cummins are my bet they will outperform others starc will struggle I feel fizz will do good too.Bumrah is only good at death overs he is not going to pick many wickets!
 
ExpressPacer said:
I disagree. Yadav did really well in the World Cup and has been in good form lately.
Rabada, like I said does get wickets but you can tell by his economy rate that he indeed does go for runs.
Amir hasn't been getting an inch of swing so, I'm not sure what you mean.

As for Taskin being the best bowler, I never said he is the best bowler. I said he has the ABILITY. Read more carefully. And he certainly does.
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These 2 stats will be enough for any sane and reasonable cricket-lover.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
If Bumrah had been of Pakistan, he would have been banned up till now for illegal bowling action.
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You wish he had an illegal action. Every Pakistani banned so far was an obvious darter, and deserved the ban. No conspiracy behind it.
 
[MENTION=129984]LegendAli[/MENTION] He is rated as the best death bowler in Odis currently and his Yorkers are so consistent and successful during death bowling. Please watch his videos or matches before commenting . Why won't he top in a seam friendly pitches in england then ?
 
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And the myth of Amir still lives on. Lol what the hell is he doing on this list? Not even the best bowler in the Pakistani lineup. That's Hassan Ali.
 
These pitches are a Shame.

Come on ICC, be wise. The time is not very far, when we might see 500 being scored.

Already 444 is done.
 
Fizz and Starc haven't had any success so far. And these have been two successful bowlers in the past. Definitely the issue is with the pitches.
 
Rabada is probably the most exciting quick in world cricket. I hope he stays injury free because he's an insane prospect in all formats.
 
Haven't watched too much of Rabada but he is an exciting prospect who should definitely lead SA's bowling attack after Steyn, he' very talented.
 
Between Hazelwood and Hassan, and both not in the options.

Amir Starc Bhubneshwar has been on par

Rabada below par

Mustafizur worse.
 
Shaik said:
Between Hazelwood and Hassan, and both not in the options.

Amir Starc Bhubneshwar has been on par

Rabada below par

Mustafizur worse.
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India preferred 34 and 36 averaging pacers over 24 averaging Shami. Shocking is a small word.


Starc took 4 wickets vs BD.
 
Mega flop tournament for super talent ATG in the making for Mustafizur, thus far.
 
Fizz is rubbish. I used to believe exactly the opposite in the past. But now his performance has forced me to change my stance. He doesn't deserve the hype he gets. Can't swing or seam the ball even in helpful conditions.

Don't think his 130 km pies and constant slower deliveries will get him anywhere.
 
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Ellipsism said:
Mega flop tournament for super talent ATG in the making for Mustafizur, thus far.
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Only time will tell whether he is found out or out of form. Too early to call atm.


If he puts on muscle and stays makes his action more upright without falling to his left side than


1. Will gain pace

2. Bounce will improve



He is quite end and despite not being a finished product yet curtasy loads of injuries He has achieved quite abit.
 
I thought Fizz bowl well apart from a few overs in the tournament. Not been at his best but not a flop

True Hasan Ali has been standout bowler
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Wickets are key.
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Sorry bro 9,10 and 11 who can't even hold bat and pure tail enders, at the death doesn't help, at least for me.

I don't believe in stats.

I was thinking great of u, but this post of yours made me, back away.

Anyways I respect ur opinion
 
Executioner said:
I thought Fizz bowl well apart from a few overs in the tournament. Not been at his best but not a flop

True Hasan Ali has been standout bowler
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Bowling few bad overs at the death, is no big deal. Even Hassan did it.

But Fizz was bowling bad at the beginning if the innings
 
Shaik said:
Bowling few bad overs at the death, is no big deal. Even Hassan did it.

But Fizz was bowling bad at the beginning if the innings
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He was trying too much. Id a better bowler once the ball is old.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Only time will tell whether he is found out or out of form. Too early to call atm.


If he puts on muscle and stays makes his action more upright without falling to his left side than


1. Will gain pace

2. Bounce will improve



He is quite end and despite not being a finished product yet curtasy loads of injuries He has achieved quite abit.
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He isn't going to be effective if he continues to trundle at 130 km/h.

I just simply don't see much in his bowling. The pace isn't great, he doesn't get much bounce from a base and he's isn't particularly great at extracting movement.

It's why I've always said that Taskin is a better bowler than the Fizz. He bowls at a decent click, he's tall and if he works on developing a good outswinger he'll be a handful.
 
Shaik said:
Sorry bro 9,10 and 11 who can't even hold bat and pure tail enders, at the death doesn't help, at least for me.

I don't believe in stats.

I was thinking great of u, but this post of yours made me, back away.

Anyways I respect ur opinion
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I am ordinary homosapien ordinary poster :)


Starc's overall performances make him best ODI bowler atm. If in one or few matches he dislodges tail than it doesn't matter. How many wickets of Wasim, Waqar were of tailenders ? The whole world respects them.

It's good to see overall picture.


For me 0-50 is not better than 4-70.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
I am ordinary homosapien ordinary poster :)


Starc's overall performances make him best ODI bowler atm. If in one or few matches he dislodges tail than it doesn't matter. How many wickets of Wasim, Waqar were of tailenders ? The whole world respects them.

It's good to see overall picture.


For me 0-50 is not better than 4-70.
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Bro kindly read the title, I said best bowler at the CT, not atm.


Even I prefer 4-70 over 0-50, but the tailender not gonna score anything, better be economical.
Anyways I respect ur opinion
 
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