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The Big 3 produce the best quality of cricket when they face each other

You are delusional if you think that Pakistan ODI team would fare better against the likes of England and Australia in Pakistan than they did in the UAE. The issue is the obvious gulf in quality between us and them, not the venue.

We can beat these sides in one-off games, but over a series, we don’t stand a chance.

Also, please don’t sell me the dummy of Pakistan getting blanked by Australia last year because we rested our players.

First, we have seen what miracles our main players have performed against the top ODI sides in the UAE, and second, the reserve players in that series actually did better than the first choice players they replaced.

Abid Ali replaced Fakhar and scored a century.

Haris replaced and Babar and scored two hundreds.

Rizwan replaced Sarfraz and also scored two hundreds.

We are a rubbish side with or without our main players.

Am i delusional? Pakistan beat same aus comprehensively in 2018 t20 series where they were white washed by pakistan .Now you are saying to me same core of players wouldn't have won odi series 😂😂😂😂

We can beat aus in uae and it is not that hard just look at their poor record in test and t20 their

I am just stating the fact you are just nitpicking for your agenda.

who ever have carefully watch that series can clearly see new players were under pressure for their spot and was mostly playing for themselves (Rizwan,abid ali).Forget about the non existence bowling attack of abbas and yasir in it....

Yes we are rubbish but mentioning pakistan have not beaten aus in odi series sincs 2002 is ridiculous. In last 20 years pakistan have not had proper odi series against aus be it in uae or in pakistan .
 
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The Main players whose presence helped white wash same aus team in t20 series in uae

Sarfaraz, Shadab Khan, Fakhar Zaman, Babar Zaman, Hasan Ali and Shaheen Shah Afridi

I don’t remember whether Aus also rested some of their players or not. Looking at the scorecard, it seems like Australia were also missing at least missing 4 main players. So we can clearly state that both teams had key players missing.

However, even if they did rest some of the main players, Pakistan lost 5-0. If they were so poor as to lose 5-0, what makes you think Pakistan would have won, when the top players of Australia were back?
 
I don’t remember whether Aus also rested some of their players or not. Looking at the scorecard, it seems like Australia were also missing at least missing 4 main players. So we can clearly state that both teams had key players missing.

However, even if they did rest some of the main players, Pakistan lost 5-0. If they were so poor as to lose 5-0, what makes you think Pakistan would have won, when the top players of Australia were back?

Pakistan bench strength is not strong as aus .Aus have better second 11 than Pakistan.

But full strength Pakistan can beat aus in uae in odi series ...
 
Pakistan bench strength is not strong as aus .Aus have better second 11 than Pakistan.

But full strength Pakistan can beat aus in uae in odi series ...

No reason or history for that to be true. Pakistan has not defeated Australia in 3 odi series in UAE prior to the one in 2019. I don’t see any reason for you to believe that Pakistan would beat them now.

Additionally, the players missing for Australia are much better cricketers than those missing for Pakistan. Starc, Cummins, Warner and Smith are greater cricketers than Sarfaraz, Shadab, SSA, Fakhar and Hasan. Only Babar is in the league of the Aus cricketers. So arguably, Australia would have been even more stronger than Pakistan if both teams played the full XI.

However, in the end Pakistan lost 5-0. No ifs or buts will change that. Hypotheticals don’t make Pakistan stronger than Australia. And the very fact that Australia bench beat Pakistan bench by 5-0 at Pakistan’s ‘home’ venue, shows the gulf in class between the two teams.
 
No reason or history for that to be true. Pakistan has not defeated Australia in 3 odi series in UAE prior to the one in 2019. I don’t see any reason for you to believe that Pakistan would beat them now.

Additionally, the players missing for Australia are much better cricketers than those missing for Pakistan. Starc, Cummins, Warner and Smith are greater cricketers than Sarfaraz, Shadab, SSA, Fakhar and Hasan. Only Babar is in the league of the Aus cricketers. So arguably, Australia would have been even more stronger than Pakistan if both teams played the full XI.

However, in the end Pakistan lost 5-0. No ifs or buts will change that. Hypotheticals don’t make Pakistan stronger than Australia. And the very fact that Australia bench beat Pakistan bench by 5-0 at Pakistan’s ‘home’ venue, shows the gulf in class between the two teams.


Talk about missing my point .Let's leave it here and agree with disgree
 
Am i delusional? Pakistan beat same aus comprehensively in 2018 t20 series where they were white washed by pakistan .Now you are saying to me same core of players wouldn't have won odi series 😂😂😂😂

We can beat aus in uae and it is not that hard just look at their poor record in test and t20 their

I am just stating the fact you are just nitpicking for your agenda.

who ever have carefully watch that series can clearly see new players were under pressure for their spot and was mostly playing for themselves (Rizwan,abid ali).Forget about the non existence bowling attack of abbas and yasir in it....

Yes we are rubbish but mentioning pakistan have not beaten aus in odi series sincs 2002 is ridiculous. In last 20 years pakistan have not had proper odi series against aus be it in uae or in pakistan .

Again, as I said, you are delusional.

Pakistan picked up cheap T20I wins but that formula did not translate into ODI cricket. Between 2017-18, we established a fake streak in the format but we produced minnow like results in ODI cricket.

There is no doubt about the fact that Australia would have beaten a full-strength Pakistan side in the ODI series. You can live in denial to make yourself feel better. That is your choice.

We have had “proper” ODI series against Australia in the UAE in 2009, 2012, 2014 and 2019. We have lost every single time.
 
If that's the case why don't you stop watching other teams as they are just useless as per your opinion.What kind of thread is this.Delete this already
 
Pakistan produce competitive cricket too when they play the likes of west indies, BD and SL. They just need the right opponents!
 
LOOOOL at this thread

That was a high quality innings by Brendon Taylor against a top class bowling attack. Never disrespect cricketers by pigeon holing them in teams
 
Cricket is a beautiful game. Whether it is played between England and Australia or your local cricket club against their arch rivals.
 
Massive respect for Brendom Taylor and Wesley Madhevere. To play those knocks under pressure against a good one day international side and a bowling attack of 3 pacers who bowl at 90mph deserves huge applause.

Thankfully threads like this exist for us to appreciate the true beauty of cricket rather than the superficiality
 
LOOOOL at this thread

That was a high quality innings by Brendon Taylor against a top class bowling attack. Never disrespect cricketers by pigeon holing them in teams

Isnt it bit of a self goal by bumping this thread? Pakistan just got saved from an embarassment of losing against Zimbabwe at home. It was more to do with oppositions inexperience rather than good cricket by Pakistan. I would have waited for a better match to bump this thread...just saying.
 
Isnt it bit of a self goal by bumping this thread? Pakistan just got saved from an embarassment of losing against Zimbabwe at home. It was more to do with oppositions inexperience rather than good cricket by Pakistan. I would have waited for a better match to bump this thread...just saying.

Not really, if you read the post it was in appreciation of Zimbabwe's run chase effort .
 
Cricketing rivalries are like marriages. Good rivalries are heavily dependent on an equal or at least somewhat comparable level of cultural richness and economic status.

The Big 3 and the iconic rivalries theh formed over the years had a natural genesis thay could not jabe veen planned.

It was always meant to be.
 
"Quality" of cricket is a very subjective term. And that makes the argument behind this thread a bit...... flawed.

Ofcourse when teams that are closer to each other in terms of ability will inevitably produce close games that makes viewing enjoyable whether it be Australia Vs England or India, Pakistan Vs Sri Lanka/Zimbabwe or some game between a couple of club teams from Queensland. :)
 
I mean some of those shots by Brendon Taylor...90mph at the stumps or at his throat and he would ramp the ball the ball to 3rd man and fine leg was high quality.

282 was a below par score but Zimbabwe being a side that hardly gets to play against any decent opposition, and the long lay off from cricket would make this score feel like 330, that too under lights and away from home. Pakistan had three 90mph bowlers, whereas Zimbabwe have been playing most of their cricket against sides that do not have single bowlers anywhere near this pace.

So, this chase by them was indeed of the highest quality in the context of the game of cricket, which is a beautiful sport.
 
An Interesting question

Brendon Taylor’s 110 v Chris Gayle’s 99 on the same day. Which one was the knock of a ‘higher quality’.
 

We will always see garbage posts from most of the Indians, but what really gets to me is the so called “Pakistani” fans who post as if they woke up to the sound of Ganges River which they peed in the night before.
 
I mean some of those shots by Brendon Taylor...90mph at the stumps or at his throat and he would ramp the ball the ball to 3rd man and fine leg was high quality.

282 was a below par score but Zimbabwe being a side that hardly gets to play against any decent opposition, and the long lay off from cricket would make this score feel like 330, that too under lights and away from home. Pakistan had three 90mph bowlers, whereas Zimbabwe have been playing most of their cricket against sides that do not have single bowlers anywhere near this pace.

So, this chase by them was indeed of the highest quality in the context of the game of cricket, which is a beautiful sport.

TBH, the first innings when Pakistan was batting was very boring. It looked like test match in colored uniform. Dot balls galore, no urgency in running between the wickets, terrible ground fielding and top of that very poor broadcast with bland commentary.

The only reason 2nd innings looked bit interesting because no one thought Zimbabwe had any chance. But dew helped and their batsman batted well (to a certain extent). However they were never going to reach the target bcoz minnows hardly know how to close matches.

This game reminded me of the India -Hongkong game in Asia cup. I know you will support your team but if you think logically it was hardly best quality of cricket. Though I dont agree with OP that only big 3 produces best cricket but this game was a poor example to prove otherwise. Infact this match kind of supports what OP is saying.
 
What a match!

Well played Zimbabwe! Well bowled Muzarabani!!
 
That wicket of Babar on his last ball was world class in the situation! Match was won on that ball! Class
 
Lol if you think this was high quality cricket. If Pakistan or Zimbabwe were playing one of the big 3 they would have been beaten black and blue.
 
Pakistan is seriously bordering minow level.

Losing games to Bangladesh, Srilanka and West Indies is bad enough but still acceptable because Pakistan is a middle table team and are competing with these teams.

But losing to Zimbawe is utter disgrace.

I feel for the fans.
 
When you are trying to win a game against a team so much better than you, and a world class batsman stands in your way...you need the class and courage to take the game. Well done Zimbabwe and hats off Muzarabani.

God bless you!
 
Drop catches (sitters)

Misfields

Wickets on rank bad balls and terrible shot selections.....


People really need to get their brains checked if they think this game was high-quality. :))
 
A classy 125 by Babar

But a better 5fer by Blessing Muzarabani

The ball to get Babar was a RIP SNORTER!
 
Pakistan is seriously bordering minow level.

Losing games to Bangladesh, Srilanka and West Indies is bad enough but still acceptable because Pakistan is a middle table team and are competing with these teams.

But losing to Zimbawe is utter disgrace.

I feel for the fans.

I didn't realize it but Zim are ranked 14 below oman..it really pathetic to lose to a 14th rank team at home and when they are playing after a gap..
 
Well done Wesley Madhavere for scoring a very good 50 off 35 balls against a decent bowling attack away from home. Really happy to see performances like this by young international cricketers from around the world.
 
Wesley Madhavere producing a 70 off 48 deliveries against Pakistan who in their last match beat England at Old Trafford in a T20i.

Well done Wesley!
 
Another game between 2 substandard teams with numerous misfields, sitter drops and ordinary deliveries getting wickets.

Proving OP right again.
 
Obviously someone is doing banghra over trying to prove me wrong but what he doesn't realise if it wasn't for Indias quality batting line up the game would be dead say if Pakistan or Sri Lanka were set this target.

Obviously it will go over said persons head but let him have his moment in the sun and continue his desperation for attention.
 
Obviously someone is doing banghra over trying to prove me wrong but what he doesn't realise if it wasn't for Indias quality batting line up the game would be dead say if Pakistan or Sri Lanka were set this target.

Obviously it will go over said persons head but let him have his moment in the sun and continue his desperation for attention.

Why are you getting worked up? People made fun of Pak-Zimbabwe fielding standards. How have Australia been any better today being big 3?
 
Another game between 2 substandard teams with numerous misfields, sitter drops and ordinary deliveries getting wickets.

Proving OP right again.
Another game between two of the big 3 with numerous misfeild,sitter drops and ordinary deliveries getting wickets with top class batmen getting out to trash on a flat deck.
Proving the op wrong again.
 
Low quality match to be honest. Indian bowling was a letdown, then their batting order collapsed. Then Australia went too easy and allowed Dhawan and Pandya to settle, while dropping multiple catches along the way (including Kohli). Some misfields led to boundaries, while other boundaries found pure credit in the beauty of the pies bowled by Maxwell, Zampa, and Starc.

Unfortunately, I fully expect this match to go down as “historic” due to the high total set by Australia followed by Pandya’s illustrated brilliance.
 
Drop catches (sitters)

Misfields

Wickets on rank bad balls and terrible shot selections.....


People really need to get their brains checked if they think this game was high-quality. :))

At liberty with reality.
 
Obviously someone is doing banghra over trying to prove me wrong but what he doesn't realise if it wasn't for Indias quality batting line up the game would be dead say if Pakistan or Sri Lanka were set this target.

Obviously it will go over said persons head but let him have his moment in the sun and continue his desperation for attention.

Bro this game was already dead. Trust me, even Sri Lanka can get to 300 after 10 dropped catches.
 
We lost this game when the first inning ended just like CT final. It seems Australia was also doing a formality of bowling 50 overs and dropping dollies. We have to up our game against this Australian side because they have both Warner and Smith back in the team. :inti
 
We lost this game when the first inning ended just like CT final. It seems Australia was also doing a formality of bowling 50 overs and dropping dollies. We have to up our game against this Australian side because they have both Warner and Smith back in the team. :inti

Maybe in the next game India will tap into the best form of cricket as they are a big 3 nation who plays the best cricket when they play another big 3?
 
Not a big three-match but I saw Newzealand versus West Indies and the match was so substandard it put National T20 to shame.

Full-toss after full-toss after full-toss.

Two bowlers sent away for bowling beamers. Pollard the magnificent bowling the final over. Top edges flying for sixes. The camera people having no idea on numerous occasions about the heading of the ball. Sub-standard graphics and a very mediocre commentary team.

Ferguson was classy though, that was like superman invading a young teens' party and stealing candy from them.

If it were the National T20 tournament, I'd be sure of people coming out with "embarrassing", "utter garbage", "never seen worse" kind of comments along with long essays but this will be swept under the carpet.
 
Another game between two of the big 3 with numerous misfeild,sitter drops and ordinary deliveries getting wickets with top class batmen getting out to trash on a flat deck.
Proving the op wrong again.

I'll wholeheartedly agree that the game today was not anywhere near top quality. Plenty of howlers....
 
At liberty with reality.

Lol stop being so desperate.

That post still stands correct today and it had nothing to do with today's game. At least I accept that the game today was substandard and not bury my head in the sand like you did when Tenda chisoro was letting the ball nutmeg him left right and center. :))
 
Amazing nail bitter match today that went down to the wire. You couldn't tell who is going to win it before the last ball was bowled.
 
This match was nowhere near as interesting as zim vs pak first odi and third odi.
Low ranked teams produce better quality of cricket matches
 
This match was nowhere near as interesting as zim vs pak first odi and third odi.
Low ranked teams produce better quality of cricket matches

When there is a good game in this series, watch how they won't bump this thread and I never said every game is quality cricket. But a majority of them are.
 
When there is a good game in this series, watch how they won't bump this thread and I never said every game is quality cricket. But a majority of them are.

Of course we won’t, we realize that two of the big 3 will have good quality matches. But sometimes there are matches that are just atrocious - like yesterday. That low standard of fielding should never be witnessed in a game between top 2 sides. Then you come to bowling which was full of pies from both sides, a failure by Australia to use the new ball, and batting and Indian top order strategy which was just absolutely braindead.
 
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Of course we won’t, we realize that two of the big 3 will have good quality matches. But sometimes there are matches that are just atrocious - like yesterday. That low standard of fielding should never be witnessed in a game between top 2 sides. Then you come to bowling which was full of pies from both sides, a failure by Australia to use the new ball, and batting and Indian top order strategy which was just absolutely braindead.

The fielding was poor I will admit. But let's be honest how often is that Australia and India are so bad in the field? If they are still playing like this at the end of the series by all means bump the thread. But I think there could be some close games but then again when Australia get on a roll at home they become unstoppable.
 
When there is a good game in this series, watch how they won't bump this thread and I never said every game is quality cricket. But a majority of them are.

Kyun thak raha eh? We will bump it to prove OP was right.
 
The fielding was poor I will admit. But let's be honest how often is that Australia and India are so bad in the field? If they are still playing like this at the end of the series by all means bump the thread. But I think there could be some close games but then again when Australia get on a roll at home they become unstoppable.

But it works the other way round too, right? On two levels - first, if you hold the Big 3 to a really high standard of cricket, then you also expect it to be consistently high. Otherwise you end up being a mercurial team and that does NOT translate to high quality. And second, often Pakistan is lambasted for bad days on the field when overall our standard of fielding has improved massively in the last 4 years (since Mickey brought in Fakhar, Shadab, Imam, and Babar). Why is there a double standard where the highest quality countries are allowed to have low quality days without criticism, while low quality countries have their good days overlooked?

This game was nowhere near as competitive as it could have been, could have easily been a 320/280 match.
 
But it works the other way round too, right? On two levels - first, if you hold the Big 3 to a really high standard of cricket, then you also expect it to be consistently high. Otherwise you end up being a mercurial team and that does NOT translate to high quality. And second, often Pakistan is lambasted for bad days on the field when overall our standard of fielding has improved massively in the last 4 years (since Mickey brought in Fakhar, Shadab, Imam, and Babar). Why is there a double standard where the highest quality countries are allowed to have low quality days without criticism, while low quality countries have their good days overlooked?

This game was nowhere near as competitive as it could have been, could have easily been a 320/280 match.

Come on man. India and Australia have consistently performed to a high standard . They are allowed off days in the field.

And Pakistan have a history of dropping absolute sitters in big games. India and Australia have shown in pressure situations over the years they will take catches a majority of time.

Never said today's game was competitive and I made this thread during a brilliant series between England and Australia which people seem to forget.
 
:yk :afridi :misbah

The indians got a phainta from the Aussies and look at the apologetics.

Epic phainta.,Australia gave Kohli and Dhawan 2-3 chances each and they still lost by a country mile
 
Epic phainta.,Australia gave Kohli and Dhawan 2-3 chances each and they still lost by a country mile

It isnt best quality cricket unless you givin them blue boys 2-3 chances, my friend. :ronaldo
 
Amazing nail bitter match today that went down to the wire. You couldn't tell who is going to win it before the last ball was bowled.

Thats the case more often than not tbh.

I disagree completely with the OP. It's become pretty obvious over the past 4 years the most entertaining cricket by far is between the 8-12 ranked sides because the gap is pretty narrow.
 
Cricket is a unique team sport because it functions as an individual battle. It is a match up between a batsman and a bowler.

As a result, the better a batsman and a bowler are, the better the quality would be in general.

It is no different to watching a singles tennis match between two high ranked players compared to one between two mediocre players.

So in that context there is no doubt that matches between the big 3 teams are better quality.

Across formats, they are the best sides in the world today. If you list the names of the top cricketers in the world, you will find that these three teams can put together more top players than all other teams together.

Let’s take a look at the top players in each format/category in no particular order.

Top Test batsmen:

Smith, Kohli, Root, Williamson, Pujara, Taylor, Babar, Stokes, Warner, Latham, de Kock

Top Test bowlers:

Cummins, Anderson, Broad, Bumrah, Rabada, Archer, Hazlewood, Starc, Wagner, Boult, Ashwin, Jadeja, Lyon, Yasir

Top ODI/T20 batsmen:

Kohli, Rohit, Smith, Root, Williamson, Babar, Taylor, Dhawan, Buttler, Bairstow, Roy, Stokes, de Kock, Faf, Miller, Warner, Finch, Maxwell, Shakib, Mushfiq, Guptill

Top ODI/T20 bowlers:

Starc, Bumrah, Boult, Shami, Hazlewood, Archer, Rabada, Cummins, Ndidi, Shaheen, Ferguson, Chahal, Kuldeep, Tahir, Zampa, Adil Rashid, Rashid Khan, Mujeeb, Imad

These are just off the top of my head and I am sure I have missed a few names from non-big 3, but the picture is pretty clear. More than 50% of the best active players across formats are from the big 3.

This thread is harsh on the likes of South Africa and New Zealand, but you can clearly see that teams like Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and West Indies are badly struggling to produce top players.

You would at best find 4-5 top players among these 4 countries unless you lower the bar considerably.

South Africa and New Zealand though do not deserve to be grouped with this lot.

The gap is also obvious in terms of results. India/Australia/England will beat Pakistan/Sri Lanka/Bangladesh/West Indies in an ODI series anywhere in the world 10/10 times, but series between them would probably finish 5/5 or 6/4.

The same would happen in T20I cricket if these sides regularly feature their first choice teams and play to their max capacity.

Perhaps Test cricket is more competitive because in this era home advantage is a huge factor. Teams like Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh still have the capacity to beat Australia or England at home on turning tracks, West Indies are good in home Tests as well.

We should also not confuse entertainment with quality. Matches can be entertaining and close at any level. Two weak teams can produce a close, entertaining match, but it will not be high quality necessarily.

Of course there are exceptions and perhaps yesterday’s match was one, but in general, 10 matches between the big 3 would generally produce better quality of cricket than 10 matches between for example Pakistan and West Indies.

This thread hurts really bad and I can understand that. As I always say, in the sporting world let alone the cricket world, the gap between fan expectation and actually capability of the team is the highest in Pakistan cricket.

Our delusional fans have the attitude of a top team and expect performances worthy of a top team, but the team itself stinks of mediocrity.

The biggest problem in Pakistan cricket is not the coaching, selections etc., but rather the irrational expectations that people have from a bunch of mediocre cricketers.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] you missed shaheen :sanga

I mentioned him in the top ODI/T20 bowlers list.


Starc, Bumrah, Boult, Shami, Hazlewood, Archer, Rabada, Cummins, Ndidi, Shaheen, Ferguson, Chahal, Kuldeep, Tahir, Zampa, Adil Rashid, Rashid Khan, Mujeeb, Imad
 
I mentioned him in the top ODI/T20 bowlers list.


Starc, Bumrah, Boult, Shami, Hazlewood, Archer, Rabada, Cummins, Ndidi, Shaheen, Ferguson, Chahal, Kuldeep, Tahir, Zampa, Adil Rashid, Rashid Khan, Mujeeb, Imad
Apart from Tahir who is now finished, no other good spinner at the international level. Rashid and Mujeeb could be but they don't play enough matches against good teams. And Rashid was a disaster in WC'19.
 
Apart from Tahir who is now finished, no other good spinner at the international level. Rashid and Mujeeb could be but they don't play enough matches against good teams. And Rashid was a disaster in WC'19.

Quality of spin bowling in Limited Overs cricket is certainly poor at the moment, but this is the best lot around at the moment.
 
Yeah that was top quality match I hope many more of these matches come against India in future also.
 
Mis-fields, drop catches (dollies), trundlers bowling left right an centre.

On top of this, cheating/manipulating the rules by playing 12 men when the rule was clearly for a concussion and not for a hamstring injury.

Definetly the best cricket is produced when the big 3 play each other
 
The Big 3 are called Big 3 for a reason. Big players, big fun, big hames, big money and big pain in the backside for other teams who dream of being in the big 3.

Everyone in the company thinks that he can replace the CEO and get 10 million dollars salary. This current CEO after all just sits in a large AC room, has a pretty secretary and plays golf in every afternoon, while he can turn the wrench or write Java better than this overpaid CEO.
 
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Mis-fields, drop catches (dollies), trundlers bowling left right an centre.

On top of this, cheating/manipulating the rules by playing 12 men when the rule was clearly for a concussion and not for a hamstring injury.

Definetly the best cricket is produced when the big 3 play each other


True the fielding has been poor from both sides, especially guys like Kohli and Dhawan.

However I think you are noticing and watching with such a detailed interest because you probably want to make your point, present your case, which is fair game.

However I feel you may not like the results if you apply the same quality scores in say a Pakistan-Zimbabwe LoI match.

Actually, I would be impressed if you can follow that match at such a granular level in the first place.

Unless of course there is a monetary or some other benefit involved.
 
Enthralling test match going on between two of the best sides in the world. Big 3 indeed produces best cricket.

Ashes
Border-Gavaskar trophy
Ind-Eng tests

These are the best series to watch.
 
Enthralling test match going on between two of the best sides in the world. Big 3 indeed produces best cricket.

Ashes
Border-Gavaskar trophy
Ind-Eng tests

These are the best series to watch.

I'm almost certain had I put Pakistan in the OP, there wouldn't have been the outrage from some. It's difficult for Pakistan fans to admit that a majority of our games are low in quality and India are involved in some of the better played series.
 
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