The death of Pakistan's fast bowling legacy?

[BlackThunder]

What happen?

Pakistan has alway been blessed with outstanding fast bowler who took the condition out of play and performed in all conditions. The current lot that are coming up are just above the trundler category. Where are the geniune quicks from Pakistan? Where is that tearaway bowler who would make you jump out of your seat in exitement whenever he run in to ball. Sad to see the only Asian nation which rivaled the likes of Windies, SA and Aus in fast bowling now can't even compete with Sri Lanka, in fact their captain pleas for a spinning pitch. The decline and the death of genuine fast bowling in Pakistan should raise alarm bells for the administration, drastic measure need to be taken to revive what once was a great fast bowling tradition.

 

[Silly Point]

The cream of the crop stepped over the line. They're not born everyday.

 

[shaz619]

The fast bowling talent in Pak is there but not being nurtured

 

[s28]

Our fastest bowler who took a fifer against England and India in their home patches doesn't get anywhere near our team.

Our best bowler is in the last year or so of serving his unjust 5 year ban.


Blame for all this lies with the inept and corrupt PCB from top to bottom, Management, Selectors and Coaches.

 

[LegendInzi]

Very pertinent thread. You can always find a name floating on PP threads about that unlucky guy who is an ace in domestics and is being victimized by Misbah and selectors. But when that very player is given chance, his dexterity is busted before lunch of first day.

All overhype, no substance.

 

[mithun_minhas]

Pak has produced 2 of the potentially great bolwers in the recent past in Amir and Asif.

The loss of Amir and Asif is still hurting Pak. Juniad is great, but Irfan is not built for Test cricket. Talha, Rhat Ali... are no Amir or Asif.

If anything, we know that in 3-5 yrs Pak will unleash new set of fast bowlers who will take everyone by surprise. History tells that they always somehoe find great bowlers.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Guys just be patient. You will find them.

ATG batsmen are more common than ATG bowlers.

You guys just lost 2 potential ATG bowlers.

Pak always had a few ATG bowlers along with a bunch of mediocre bowlers.

It was never like the Windies of 80's where bench bowlers would make it to the main XI of any team.

 

[proud_pakistani]

Pakistan has gone through a tough phase. Guys in the league of Imran, Waqar, Wasim, Shoaib, Aamer, Asif probably come about once in a decade. We almost had 3 playing together at a time, Shoaib played with both Aamer and Asif as well as the 2 Ws. We lost Aamer and Asif both at the same time and to expect that they will be replaced straight away is absurd. Fast bowling is one of the toughest skills to master in cricket, it requires physical attributes which you dont need as a specialist batsman or spinner.

 

[ChaudrySaab]

Lol were just going through a bad phase ... Just watch some kid will pop out of somewhere and carry our legacy (In Shaa Allah).

 

[Buffet]

ATG batsmen are more common than ATG bowlers.

Not always true. In 80s/90s, we had more ATG bowlers than ATG batsmen.

 

[HASHAM2]

Junaid Khan is Best Young Fast Bowler in World
in Modern Day Cricket his ODI Ave is 22

Irfan also has done well Recently

We also Have Talha,Gul,Bhatti etc

Ehsan Adil,Mir hamza,Zia ul haq,Usman Shinwari Coming from un-19 Rank Recently

 

[amax]

there are no express bowlers or WC fast bowler in test attack currently because almost all playing are rookies and add to that fastest bowlers in the domestic are not the best/injured. But In general things have even improved from recent past, now there are no raos, kahlils etc every new bowler who arrives at scene has minimum level of standard and maintains good avg pace.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Not always true. In 80s/90s, we had more ATG bowlers than ATG batsmen.

Yeah, maybe you are right.

But I was talking overall.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

The situation was quite bad in 2012 when i saw 4 spinners bowling for Pakistan in ODI's but since then Pakistan has produced quite a few decent seamers.

 

[BlackThunder]

I am a big fan of fast bowling and I miss that lightining spark that Pakistani fast bowlers use to provide. Nowadays Pakistan test team is one of the most boring teams in world cricket and their relient of spin bowling should be alarming for any phaast bowling fan.

 

[pakistani pride]

We still have the best pace attack in ASIA

Irfan, Junaid, Talha and bhatti.

Regarding the opening post we did produce 2 WC fast bowlers for this decade with Amir having the potential to becoming the leading pak pacer of all time !

No team has toured PAK for what 5 years or so. No side matches for youngsters due to this facct. Yet we still have a pace bowling attack that is third behind SA and AUS.

 

[Stewie]

Anything but dead.

History and law of averages state that the next big world class fast bowler from pakistan will show up within the next ten years.

Thats right folks.. You heard it here first.

 

[Bilal7]

Calling Irfan and Junaid trundlers shows the OP's class. The former regularly bowls over the 145 kph mark and sure did make Gambhir dance when he faced them and the latter is one of the best young bowlers in the world.

Having said that, the lack of home matches really is hurting us since all of our raw talent doesn't get to face international teams, robbing them of crucial experience. Also, Amir and Asif were supposed to be the torch bearers of this generation but alas, that did not work out. If we go back to the 90's and take away the 2 W's and had there not been home cricket for us back then, the pace bowling stocks would have looked bare.

So spot-fixing and a lack of home matches are the reasons behind no Akhtar-type bowlers emerging.

 

[Bilal7]

The situation was quite bad in 2012 when i saw 4 spinners bowling for Pakistan in ODI's but since then Pakistan has produced quite a few decent seamers.

Agreed. We hit rock-bottom back then in terms of pace bowling but we've found some gems since then.

 

[lilFlip]

Two almost certified ATGs left game

is injured

is bowling with rookies

 

[HASHAM2]

Pakistan Pace attack Performance Recently

VS India in India Did so so so well
VS SA in SA Shorter Format Junaid/Irfan Bowled very well Guly taken 5 Wicket,s haul iN t-20
in Champion Trophy Did well Irfan,Wahab But Batsman did nothing
in West Indies Junaid,Irfan Bowled so well
in Zimbabwe Pace attack Were Average
vs SA In UAE in test series did well (in ODI Series Wahab and Sohail Tanvir were Just Poor)
vs SA IN SA Bhatti Bowled so well Junaid was Good to
vs SL in ODI Series Junaid was Just Brillent (Gul was Good to)
in 1st test at Abu Dhabi Bhatti,Junaid Bowled well (in Dubai test we were Poor)
in un Going Test i think Junaid-Talha Bowled well on Slow Pitch Taken 6 Wicket,s

 

[lilFlip]

Pakistan Pace attack Performance Recently

VS India in India Did so so so well
VS SA in SA Shorter Format Junaid/Irfan Bowled very well Guly taken 5 Wicket,s haul iN t-20
in Champion Trophy Did well Irfan,Wahab But Batsman did nothing
in West Indies Junaid,Irfan Bowled so well
in Zimbabwe Pace attack Were Average
vs SA In UAE in test series did well (in ODI Series Wahab and Sohail Tanvir were Just Poor)
vs SA IN SA Bhatti Bowled so well Junaid was Good to
vs SL in ODI Series Junaid was Just Brillent (Gul was Good to)
in 1st test at Abu Dhabi Bhatti,Junaid Bowled well (in Dubai test we were Poor)
in un Going Test i think Junaid-Talha Bowled well on Slow Pitch Taken 6 Wicket,s

that's more than decent performances

its just people expect non-stop demolition from Pak pacers

 

[HASHAM2]

that's more than decent performances

its just people expect non-stop demolition from Pak pacers

People expect Pakistan pace attack to be as Good as Good was in 90s

if we had Amir/Asif Around

Our Pace attack would had been as Good as good was in 90s

Amir,Asif,Irfan,Junaid

Meer Hamza,Usman Shinwari,Zia ul haq and Ehsan Adil (STILL FAST BOWLERS Coming FROM UN-19 Ranks)

 

[frock2020]

match fixing and dating culture have turned away youngsters from picking up the sport in Pakistan

 

[sjahmed23]

well one reason could also be that the domestic cricketers get paid almost next to nothing. Most of the young kids would rather go to college and and find some work rather than try their luck in cricket and get wasted like fawad alam/misbah... ect. Domestic cricket is what brings talent, you will get lucky once or twice but you won't get lucky all the time.

and not to mention no retirement benefits either so after 35 you're unemployed and still broke and probably suffering from back pains/ bad knees.

 

[Bilal7]

well one reason could also be that the domestic cricketers get paid almost next to nothing. Most of the young kids would rather go to college and and find some work rather than try their luck in cricket and get wasted like fawad alam/misbah... ect. Domestic cricket is what brings talent, you will get lucky once or twice but you won't get lucky all the time.

This is another reason. Expect the pace bowling stocks to really dry up if the proposed BCCI takeover follows through.

 

[90MPH]

No one claims Pak has world class fast bowlers.

But they still have some very good ones.

Anyway I know how well they bowled on the first day. Today it wasn't terrible but just frustration built in because the Lankans played a slow but gritty way and just didn't want to surrender - they deserve credit for that.

 

[Zohaib Shah]

Two almost certified ATGs left game

is injured

is bowling with rookies

I agree with this! Our Fast bowling is not dead, as long as a player named Junaid Khan is playing. Every great fast bowler bowls in a pair. So Junaid Khan is missing his sidekick MD Irfan.

 

[Adil_94]

The death of Pakistan fast bowling legacy

We lost two bowlers who were expected to carry our fast bowling legacy for the next 10 years it's like SA losing Steyn and Philander England Anderson and abroad and Aus Harris and Johnson Junaid has done a very good job with Irfan Bilawal and Talha look like good prospects ATG bowlers are always harder to produce especially in this era

 

[ChaudrySaab]

One of the main problem's in the inexperience and the lack of a senior fast bowler for the young 'uns (Gul can't really guide them) but I believe in a year or 2 our pace attack if managed properly and as I stated in my original post a kid will come out of the blue we will have quite a good attack. Junaid will lead the attack and for me is a potential Pakistani great!.

Junaid, Irfan, Bhatti, Talha look's a good pace attack.

 

[joly]

Our fastest bowler who took a fifer against England and India in their home patches doesn't get anywhere near our team.

Our best bowler is in the last year or so of serving his unjust 5 year ban.


Blame for all this lies with the inept and corrupt PCB from top to bottom, Management, Selectors and Coaches.

agreed,should have been a life ban for selling one's motherland

 

[Myrmidon]

agreed,should have been a life ban for selling one's motherland

Yup, indeed it should be

Back to OP

Junaid, Irfan, Gul are proabably still 3 of the best fast bowlers in the world circuit so needless thread.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Pak has produced 2 of the potentially great bolwers in the recent past in Amir and Asif.

The loss of Amir and Asif is still hurting Pak. Juniad is great, but Irfan is not built for Test cricket. Talha, Rhat Ali... are no Amir or Asif.

If anything, we know that in 3-5 yrs Pak will unleash new set of fast bowlers who will take everyone by surprise. History tells that they always somehoe find great bowlers.

This. we are still producing bowlers, just 2 of the best were dumb enough to get them selves banned

People do realize that our test attack in an ideal world would be : Amir, Asif , Junaid

 

[Square Drive]

Yeah man. PK, VK, and BK are miles better, eh?

Junaid, Irfan, Bhatti, Gul (ODIs), Anwar (ODIs), Talha (Tests), and Rahat (Tests) are all great bowlers. Then we have the likes of Asad Ali, Sadaf Hussain, Ehsan Adil, and Zia-ul-Haq who have the potential to do well if given a proper run.

Good times. We are blessed.

 

[ali2220]

Pak lost Aamer and Asif in recent past, Pak is also suffering coz of no international cricket in Pakistan, as such things aren't looking all that great, however to say its the death of fast bowling is plain stupid when we have Irfan (who is very very good ) and Junaid who is also a good pacer.Unfortunately besides the two we don't have a establised fast bowler for tests, we need to groom some under the guidance of coach like Waqar.

Aamer is rightfully serving his five year ban, and he will be back after the WC 15, his inclusion will strengten the Pak team.Also, we can expect to find a new talent like Aamer and Asif from Pakistan within next 5 years.

 

[PlanetPakistan]

Junaid and Irfan will make it in to most teams and can destroy great lineup like they did on the tour of india last year. Talha and Bhatti also seem to be very talented but need more international matches to become match winners

What's missing is 95+ mph bowlers like Akhtar, Zahid and Waqar but then again no other country has a 95+ mph bowler(Johnson is the closest perhaps)

 

[mystical man]

Pak lost Aamer and Asif in recent past, Pak is also suffering coz of no international cricket in Pakistan, as such things aren't looking all that great, however to say its the death of fast bowling is plain stupid when we have Irfan (who is very very good ) and Junaid who is also a good pacer.Unfortunately besides the two we don't have a establised fast bowler for tests, we need to groom some under the guidance of coach like Waqar.

Aamer is rightfully serving his five year ban, and he will be back after the WC 15, his inclusion will strengten the Pak team.Also, we can expect to find a new talent like Aamer and Asif from Pakistan within next 5 years.

Who told you that he will be back in the playing 11 for Pakistan?

 

[JibranAnsari]

Not really.. its been only 4 years that we do not have any outstanding fast bowlers. We had them for this generation but they were cheaters. Soon we will have two more coming up , just a matter of time.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Who told you that he will be back in the playing 11 for Pakistan?

Its not certain but if he does well in domestic and finds his old form back then we all know that he is the future.

 

[ali2220]

Who told you that he will be back in the playing 11 for Pakistan?

This thread suggest that Pak is in need of a good fas bowler, chances are that when his ban is lifted, he will be back.

Also, the statements of PCB chiefS suggest that they want him back, some ppl won't like it but unless Aamer did something stupid now, the chances of him making a comeback are very high.

 

[Hawkeye]

Junaid can't swing the ball, over-reliance on seam will hurt him like in Champions Trophy.

Irfan produces awkward bounce at good pace, he's threatening.

No one else is a good, threatening PACER.

 

[HASHAM2]

Junaid can't swing the ball, over-reliance on seam will hurt him like in Champions Trophy.

Irfan produces awkward bounce at good pace, he's threatening.

No one else is a good, threatening PACER.

No team have More than 2 Decent Fast Bowler,s Currently Expect SA

SA Have Steyn,Morkel and Philander (Reserve Like,s of Rory,Tostsobe are Trundler,s)

Australia have Johnson and Harris

Pakistan have Irfan and Junaid

England Have Anderson and Broad Anderson is around 32

NL Boult and Southee

SL,India,WI,Etc have Pure Trundler,s in There line up

 

[Mamoon]

I am afraid its true.

All up coming seamers apart from Junaid and Irfan are rubbish, while those two are simply decent. Nothing more.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

I am afraid its true.

All up coming seamers apart from Junaid and Irfan are rubbish, while those two are simply decent. Nothing more.

^ how many scars do you have on your wrists ?

I know its best to expect nothing from pak cricket, but you take to an extreme, that is beyond "just being realistic"

 

[Mamoon]

^ how many scars do you have on your wrists ?

I know its best to expect nothing from pak cricket, but you take to an extreme, that is beyond "just being realistic"

What extreme are you talking about?

Maybe we are watching a different team.

I don't see one out-standing prospect in the country today that is not banned.

I would have been excited about Irfan had he been younger and fitter, not 30+ with an awkward physique.

Junaid's pedestrian effort with the new ball day in day out makes him nothing more than a more talented version of Umar Gul.

He's a completely different bowler when he has an old ball in his hand and gets the reverse swing going.

 

[HASHAM2]

I am afraid its true.

All up coming seamers apart from Junaid and Irfan are rubbish, while those two are simply decent. Nothing more.

Relex Men

There is alot of Fast Bowling Talent in Domestic Cricket and at UN-19 Level

Sadaf Hussain
Ehsan Adil
Imran Khan Jnr
Ataullah
Ahmad Jamal
Zia ul haq
Meer Hamza
Nasir Malik
Usman Shinwari

 

[Mamoon]

Relex Men

There is alot of Fast Bowling Talent in Domestic Cricket and at UN-19 Level

Sadaf Hussain
Ehsan Adil
Imran Khan Jnr
Ataullah
Ahmad Jamal
Zia ul haq
Meer Hamza
Nasir Malik
Usman Shinwari

90% of them won't make it. That is how it goes.

 

[wasi90lk]

Pakistani fast bowling legacy is far from dead. Remember Amir is coming back and Irfan is always a very dangerous bowler.

You cannot expect pacers to do well in UAE.

 

[HASHAM2]

90% of them won't make it. That is how it goes.

The Way Sadaf and Ehsan Bowling in Domestic Cricket

Soon Thay will Make in Pakistan team

 

[Mamoon]

The Way Sadaf and Ehsan Bowling in Domestic Cricket

Soon Thay will Make in Pakistan team

Probably most of them will get selected one day but by "make it" I mean having a successful quality career.

You pick any generation of cricketers and regardless of how they look at certain levels, they simply don't make it at the national level due to various reasons.

 

[Haroon786]

Shouldn't take someone who considers Anderson as a quality bowler seriously.

 

[HASHAM2]

Probably most of them will get selected one day but by "make it" I mean having a successful quality career.

You pick any generation of cricketers and regardless of how they look at certain levels, they simply don't make it at the national level due to various reasons.

one of Those may have Quality International Career Why Know

 

[Mamoon]

Shouldn't take someone who considers Anderson as a quality bowler seriously.

He has produced enough quality spells over the years to be considered a quality bowler.

He has carried England's bowling over the years along with Swann and has won them enough games home and away.

Its not just about the averages and strike rates. Kallis has a similar average but would you pick an in form Kallis over an in form Anderson?

Anderson is a lot more credible than most 30 averaging bowlers.

Johnson doesn't have a special average either, but he produces special spells that no one else can and hence he's a special bowler.

 

[HASHAM2]

He has produced enough quality spells over the years to be considered a quality bowler.

He has carried England's bowling over the years along with Swann and has won them enough games home and away.

Its not just about the averages and strike rates. Kallis has a similar average but would you pick an in form Kallis over an in form Anderson?

Anderson is a lot more credible than most 30 averaging bowlers.

Johnson doesn't have a special average either, but he produces special spells that no one else can and hence he's a special bowler.

Huge Different between Johnson and Anderson Strike Rate

Johnson S/R is 51

Anderson S/R is 59

Junaid Khan Will end up as Better Fast Bowler than Anderson
Junaid Khan aleady better than Him in ODI,S

 

[Haroon786]

He has produced enough quality spells over the years to be considered a quality bowler.

He has carried England's bowling over the years along with Swann and has won them enough games home and away.

Its not just about the averages and strike rates. Kallis has a similar average but would you pick an in form Kallis over an in form Anderson?

Anderson is a lot more credible than most 30 averaging bowlers.

Johnson doesn't have a special average either, but he produces special spells that no one else can and hence he's a special bowler.

Career averages don't lie, yes like anyone he has quality spells, but his mediocrity has shone greater than his excellence.

I don't consider Kallis as an allrounder.

 

[Mamoon]

Career averages don't lie, yes like anyone he has quality spells, but his mediocrity has shone greater than his excellence.

I don't consider Kallis as an allrounder.

He played a huge role in England's ascendancy to the number one ranking, 3 dominant Ashes wins including decimating Australia on their turf in 2009-10.

Not to forget he was instrumental in beating India in India.

Most crickets would be proud to end up with a career Anderson has had, and he's still 31.

Its not just about how you look on a piece of paper. When he was helping England achieve all of that, nobody in the country cared about how much he averaged.

 

[Mamoon]

Huge Different between Johnson and Anderson Strike Rate

Johnson S/R is 51

Anderson S/R is 59

Junaid Khan Will end up as Better Fast Bowler than Anderson
Junaid Khan aleady better than Him in ODI,S

I wasn't comparing them, just highlighting that Johnson's bowling isn't reflected in his statistics.

 

[Haroon786]

He played a huge role in England's ascendancy to the number one ranking, 3 dominant Ashes wins including decimating Australia on their turf in 2009-10.

Not to forget he was instrumental in beating India in India.

Most crickets would be proud to end up with a career Anderson has had, and he's still 31.

Its not just about how you look on a piece of paper. When he was helping England achieve all of that, nobody in the country cared about how much he averaged.

He may have helped England win some series, but that doesn't change the fact that he is nothing more than average overall.

 

[Hawkeye]

The Way Sadaf and Ehsan Bowling in Domestic Cricket

Soon Thay will Make in Pakistan team

The topic is about FAST BOWLING legacy of Pakistan. Genuine fast bowlers who were threatening, who could make the ball talk at genuine pace.

Those you mention are trundlers, they won't be as threatening, and cannot revive the PACE bowling legacy of Pakistan.

From current bowlers, only Irfan is threatening at consistent pace.

Junaid too often bowls at 140k along with Bhatti, but both lack swing.

Hopes are pinned on Amir's comeback.

 

[HASHAM2]

The topic is about FAST BOWLING legacy of Pakistan. Genuine fast bowlers who were threatening, who could make the ball talk at genuine pace.

Those you mention are trundlers, they won't be as threatening, and cannot revive the PACE bowling legacy of Pakistan.

From current bowlers, only Irfan is threatening at consistent pace.

Junaid too often bowls at 140k along with Bhatti, but both lack swing.

Hopes are pinned on Amir's comeback.

Usman Khan Shinwari Can swing bowl at Pace Sadly he not Bowled well in 2nd T-20 VS SL on Road

Will Return to International Cricket soon (Like Irfan did after England Tour)

Zia ul haq is Another Pacer which can swing Bowl at Pace ulhaq

 

[SOSami]

Mohammad Irfan.

Take out Mitchell Johnson out of the Australian team and England would have retained the Ashes.

Take out Steyn from South Africa and India would not have lost the Test series in South Africa.

These men are pivotal in their side, in their ability to trouble the opposition batsmen with hostility. It's quite simple: Pakistan are missing their main pace bowling threat.

 

[amax]

The situation was quite bad in 2012 when i saw 4 spinners bowling for Pakistan in ODI's but since then Pakistan has produced quite a few decent seamers.

+1 and before 2012, there was a lean patch when both asif and akhtar were banned. Now actually things have improved unlike past second string bowlers are at least okish.

 

[Madplayer]

i am a very big fan of junaid and want him to do well with the new and old ball. but the more i watch him bowl the more i keep telling myself "who are you kidding ". He is a first change bowler and a very good one at that. No shame in admitting it. People need to accept it sometime.

 

[zabalestmsm]

The cream of the crop stepped over the line. They're not born everyday.

This post of urs shud be added to famous cricket quotations
Impressive.

 

[zabalestmsm]

Well yes they r no express pace bowlers. Period. But still i see in Ehsan Adil something unique. He may not be express but he is intelligent and i personally feel he has in him to become something exciting in this generation for Pakistan. Love to watch him bowl.

 

[HASHAM2]

Well yes they r no express pace bowlers. Period. But still i see in Ehsan Adil something unique. He may not be express but he is intelligent and i personally feel he has in him to become something exciting in this generation for Pakistan. Love to watch him bowl.

Best Thing about Ehsan adil is

he has Self belief on his Ability Unlike Wahab,Sami etc

and has Agression of Fast Bowler :ehsan

Good Seam Bowler

 

[Gangnam]

I am afraid we are almost to that point. Our over reliance on spin is certainty worrying and the fact that whenever a new overhype bowler is introduced he turns out to be nothing more than medium fast is very discouraging.

 

[IM NOT YOU]

inshallah mohammad amir is coming back soon and is still to see the prime of his life. he will take over the reigns as best fast bowler in the world

 

[Bilal7]

Mohammad Irfan.

Take out Mitchell Johnson out of the Australian team and England would have retained the Ashes.

Take out Steyn from South Africa and India would not have lost the Test series in South Africa.

These men are pivotal in their side, in their ability to trouble the opposition batsmen with hostility. It's quite simple: Pakistan are missing their main pace bowling threat.

Agreed. Irfan and Junaid are two of the best pace bowlers in the world at present, especially in the shorter formats.

 

[BlackThunder]

With Junaid Khan on his way to becoming another trundler the Pak fast bowling future looks really bleak. Talha was hyped up to be the fastest bowler in Pakistan but after catching some highlight he looks like another hyped up trundler produced by Pakistan. I guess the only thing Pak fans and fast bowling fans like myself can look forward to is Amir but it would be extremely unfair to expect him to have the same potency after such a long layoff.

 

[Fastandfurious]

Don't worry [MENTION=78395]BlackThunder[/MENTION] Pakistan will revive itself again. There is still Wahab and Irfan. A young gun is about to pop up soon insha'Allah.

 

[Mamoon]

Our fast bowling resources are finished. We are the new India, but India today are better than us thanks to Bhuvi.

Ajmal is finished in Tests and there are no ready made replacements in sight so in a year or two, our bowling would better than Zimbabwe and Bangladesh only and on par with WI.

Unless Amir comes back as good as before and 'if' we unearth some special talent again, the legacy of our bowlers is down the drain.

 

[BlackThunder]

I am quite surprised Pakistan hasn't groomed a young spinner knowing Ajmal is standing on his last leg as a international cricketer.

 

[Alchemy]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] What has bhuvi done that you are rating him above pakistani bowlers?

Raza Abbas is the perfect replacement. We already have Zulfiqar babar on the bench.

Pakistan has the fourth best pace attack and best spin attack in the world even though we are not on our normal best considering our top two talents of this decade are banned. Look at the wrist slitters. LMAO.

 

[Fastandfurious]

Our fast bowling resources are finished. We are the new India, but India today are better than us thanks to Bhuvi.

Ajmal is finished in Tests and there are no ready made replacements in sight so in a year or two, our bowling would better than Zimbabwe and Bangladesh only and on par with WI.

Unless Amir comes back as good as before and 'if' we unearth some special talent again, the legacy of our bowlers is down the drain.

lol

 

[in_cutter]

We had Asif Amir did we not? Not many teams can produce two world class fast bowlers simutaneously. They ruined it for themselves & Pak cricket.

 

[Mamoon]

Our spin attack is best in the world on paper only, because Ajmal is finished as a Test bowler and Rehman is back to being ordinary after a great couple of years. At the moment, Herath is the number 1 spinner.

Bhuvi has done which no other Pakistani bowlers seems to have any clue about these days - make the ball talk.

 

[razabbas]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] What has bhuvi done that you are rating him above pakistani bowlers?

Raza Abbas is the perfect replacement. We already have Zulfiqar babar on the bench.

Pakistan has the fourth best pace attack and best spin attack in the world even though we are not on our normal best considering our top two talents of this decade are banned. Look at the wrist slitters. LMAO.

LOL do u mean Raza Hasan ?

 

[Alchemy]

I have high hopes on Wahab. I hope he takes inspiration from Johnson and come backs really strong and he will. Insha'Allah.

Our spin attack is not best on paper. Thats the worst lie anyone can tell me. Ajmal is pure class and someone like me who watched the whole match and not just reads commentary on cricinfo knows that Ajmal was hard-done by luck. He got Sanga out which was not reviewed and bowled some peach deliveries. He was looking really sharp with Junaid.

I dont know why you rate Bhuvi so much. He is just a one pony bowler and a trundler ffs.

 

[Alchemy]

LOL do u mean Raza Hasan ?

Yes, my bad.