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The Lord of The Rings: The Rings of Power

Robert here spoiling the entire book :))

It sounds interesting, would you say it is written in the short story format? I am keen on this form

But that's the cool thing..there isn't a book..just appendices. We have broad brushes but the detail is what this series is gonna give us..
[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] I'm loving war damaged Galadriel. Love the whole foreshadowing..and loving more information on the orcs..I predict this series will really enhance the movies further.. like clone wars did for the prequels..can't wait for sauron to appear..and let's not forget the witch King and Co..
 
But that's the cool thing..there isn't a book..just appendices. We have broad brushes but the detail is what this series is gonna give us..

[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] I'm loving war damaged Galadriel. Love the whole foreshadowing..and loving more information on the orcs..I predict this series will really enhance the movies further.. like clone wars did for the prequels..can't wait for sauron to appear..and let's not forget the witch King and Co..

Please show respect

They are ‘Uruk’, not orcs
 
Come to think of it, for a pakistani adaptation of LOTR I would cast Kamran Akmal as Gollum, Miandad as Bilbo Baggins and Salman Butt as the double-dealing Saruman :)
 
Come to think of it, for a pakistani adaptation of LOTR I would cast Kamran Akmal as Gollum, Miandad as Bilbo Baggins and Salman Butt as the double-dealing Saruman :)

The fellowship of the tuk

Mohammad Rizwan
Khushdil Shah
Iftikhar
Babar Azam
Shan Masood
 
Come to think of it, for a pakistani adaptation of LOTR I would cast Kamran Akmal as Gollum, Miandad as Bilbo Baggins and Salman Butt as the double-dealing Saruman :)

Miandad is more like Gimli - doughty and highly resilient.

Imran would play Aragorn.

Probably with Bob Woolmer as Gandalf - a spirit out the the West who rallied the cause.
 
Miandad is more like Gimli - doughty and highly resilient.

Imran would play Aragorn.

Probably with Bob Woolmer as Gandalf - a spirit out the the West who rallied the cause.

Misbah would be Annatar the Lord of gifts at the time of Mickey being sacked
 
But that's the cool thing..there isn't a book..just appendices. We have broad brushes but the detail is what this series is gonna give us..

[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] I'm loving war damaged Galadriel. Love the whole foreshadowing..and loving more information on the orcs..I predict this series will really enhance the movies further.. like clone wars did for the prequels..can't wait for sauron to appear..and let's not forget the witch King and Co..

I reckon Halbrand might go on to become the Witch-King.

Old Witchy was dramatically powered up in TROTK, breaking Gandalf’s staff. If the book, Gandalf was able to hold five of the wraiths off including Witchy. And he was the Grey then, not the turbocharged White version.
 
I reckon Halbrand might go on to become the Witch-King.

Old Witchy was dramatically powered up in TROTK, breaking Gandalf’s staff. If the book, Gandalf was able to hold five of the wraiths off including Witchy. And he was the Grey then, not the turbocharged White version.

There is a chance Halbrand is one of the split versions of Sauron
 
I reckon Halbrand might go on to become the Witch-King.

This is a good call. It also explains why Adar was looking at him curiosly with sly affection. He recognises some evil lurking within Halbrand.
 
This is a good call. It also explains why Adar was looking at him curiosly with sly affection. He recognises some evil lurking within Halbrand.

I don’t think Halbrand is human

The witch king was a human king
 
No evidence to suggest otherwise.
Him and Adar have some deep rooted history

Adar is probably a million years old considering he was a first Elv.

That’s pretty damming evidence
 
Halbrand’s character is depicted A’s Galadriel’s equal so far in the show

It is said that Galadriel was equal in power to Sauron.
 
Said he was…..what else could he be?

I think he is either Sauron or another shape shifter like him.

The history that he has with Adar is compelling. The current Southlanders we see have not seen or heard of Adar before. They haven’t seen orcs for ages either. It makes no sense for him to know Adar from the past.

Also I find it weird that Adar being an elf doesn’t have the memory of him either.
 
I think he is either Sauron or another shape shifter like him.

The history that he has with Adar is compelling. The current Southlanders we see have not seen or heard of Adar before. They haven’t seen orcs for ages either. It makes no sense for him to know Adar from the past.

Also I find it weird that Adar being an elf doesn’t have the memory of him either.

That's why I think Adar doesn't know him. Probably just sees another another human crushed underfoot since Morgoth's time.
 
Either Disa is Sauron or Nori’s friend is Sauron

Who do you guys hedge your bets on?
 
Either Disa is Sauron or Nori’s friend is Sauron

Who do you guys hedge your bets on?

Something isn't right about Disa. She ain't evil but she is definitely susceptible to corruption by Sauron. She called her father-in-law a fool and then greedily encouraged her husband to continue mining for precious metals despite the King's objection. Thus Disa reminds me of Megan Markle.

I mean she's of african heritage and her dwarf hubby is orange haired, seems a deliberate allusion to Harry and Megan here by the show's producers :)
 
Something isn't right about Disa. She ain't evil but she is definitely susceptible to corruption by Sauron. She called her father-in-law a fool and then greedily encouraged her husband to continue mining for precious metals despite the King's objection.

This is a blummin’ good point.

And Sauron would have a good idea about his old First Age war comrade lurking miles below.
 
This is a blummin’ good point.

And Sauron would have a good idea about his old First Age war comrade lurking miles below.

Her eye colour is quite telling too

“The eye”

That’s the name of the episode
 
So to tomorrow is the finale. Who would have thought? The build up has been very underwhelming. Infact, what build up? Lol

Very disappointed.
 
So to tomorrow is the finale. Who would have thought? The build up has been very underwhelming. Infact, what build up? Lol

Very disappointed.

The 7th episode felt more like an end of season episode but with no major reveals.

Everyone knew there was a Balrog under the mines so they also was not a reveal
 
We are in the blackcountry land now!! [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION]

I do a bit of shopping in Mordor!

Visually the shadow lands were absolutely stunning, this show needs to be watched in UHD with Dolby Atmos / Visual

The war mongering Gladriel is a welcome improvement

Amazon have done exceptional marketing and the show had delivered the hype, my prime label was ROP themed
 
I mean she's of african heritage and her dwarf hubby is orange haired, seems a deliberate allusion to Harry and Megan here by the show's producers :)

lmao yeah the Royals rolled out this to get back at them lol
 
This is a blummin’ good point.

And Sauron would have a good idea about his old First Age war comrade lurking miles below.

Disa is the most interesting figure in the season so far. I would like to see her develop into a major character in the coming seasons - maybe a Kim Philby-like role but also someone struggling with a guilty conscience who doesn't want to disappoint her husband prince.
 
Well, now we know who Sauron is and who Meteor Man is.

The Galadriel-Sauron scene was very good. Humanised him somewhat, and showed what a manipulator he is.
 
That’s it then. We now know who Sauron is (or knew from the beginning)…and who the stranger really is.

the stranger could also be Sarumon?
 
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Well, now we know who Sauron is and who Meteor Man is.

The Galadriel-Sauron scene was very good. Humanised him somewhat, and showed what a manipulator he is.

I’m so disappointed that it wasn’t Nori’s friend
 
I’m so disappointed that it wasn’t Nori’s friend

It had to be
Halbrand
who was busy manipulating away, though that didn't become really clear until the forging of the rings.
 
It had to be
Halbrand
who was busy manipulating away, though that didn't become really clear until the forging of the rings.

Yes the manipulation was evident from the very beginning. Also we have learned that there are more shape shifters out there. Disa is still a suspicious figure as we know. She could well be a shape shifter and agent of Sauron.

TBH this Sauron doesnt quite do it for me. I was expecting a more Mathew Mcconaughey type man who would charm the elves with his beautiful long hair. Halbrand looks too rough
 
So I think each season will work in line with the song

3 rings for the Elvan kings...

Season 2 will probably focus on the rings for the Dwarf lords and their 7 rings

Season 3 will be the interesting one with the 9 rings for the mortal men.
 
So I think each season will work in line with the song

3 rings for the Elvan kings...

Season 2 will probably focus on the rings for the Dwarf lords and their 7 rings

Season 3 will be the interesting one with the 9 rings for the mortal men.

Presumably Sauron will take another form to manipulate the Dwarves.
 
Presumably Sauron will take another form to manipulate the Dwarves.

I dont understand one thing...

According to Lore, Did celebrimbor make all the rings besides the one Ring made by Sauron at Mount Doom?

Because the timeline now will not allow that. Elrond and Galadriel know Halbrand is Sauron, he wont be coming back to Lindon if Celebrimbor knows too. How is he going to forge the remaining rings now that his cover is blown?
 
A lot of things around Sauron is still very unclear

The meteor Man is 'the other half. the Istari', these were the words of the three cult followers.

So Adar split Sauron in half, and the bad half that was healing the world is Halbrand, whereas the good half is the meteor man?
 
Overall the finale did not pack a punch and I didn’t care for any of the characters. Halbrand’s story is weak and Galadriel the great and all knowing doesn’t look very clever now that we know Halbrand is Sauron lol. The writers have a lot of work to do for S2.
5/10
 
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I dont understand one thing...

According to Lore, Did celebrimbor make all the rings besides the one Ring made by Sauron at Mount Doom?

Because the timeline now will not allow that. Elrond and Galadriel know Halbrand is Sauron, he wont be coming back to Lindon if Celebrimbor knows too. How is he going to forge the remaining rings now that his cover is blown?

Have they already created the rings & fast forwarded to Sauron leaving for Mount Doom? It’s a mess. The creaters have completely butchered Tolkien’s work.
 
And it looks like the writers have completely overlooked Annatar
 
A lot of things around Sauron is still very unclear

The meteor Man is 'the other half. the Istari', these were the words of the three cult followers.

So Adar split Sauron in half, and the bad half that was healing the world is Halbrand, whereas the good half is the meteor man?

The other “half” of the Maiar, the good spirits who sided with the Valar and Morgoth.
 
I dont understand one thing...

According to Lore, Did celebrimbor make all the rings besides the one Ring made by Sauron at Mount Doom?

Because the timeline now will not allow that. Elrond and Galadriel know Halbrand is Sauron, he wont be coming back to Lindon if Celebrimbor knows too. How is he going to forge the remaining rings now that his cover is blown?

IIRC the eleven smiths of Eregion made the Seven and the Nine with Sauron. But Celebrimbor made the Three alone so they were not ruled by the One.
 
IIRC the eleven smiths of Eregion made the Seven and the Nine with Sauron. But Celebrimbor made the Three alone so they were not ruled by the One.

Interesting. Let’s see how the writers bring back Sauron to Eregion in order to make those rings
 
Come to think of it

Meteor Man has way more charisma as a character to be Sauron of this series. Halbrand really doesn’t do it for me
 
Have they already created the rings & fast forwarded to Sauron leaving for Mount Doom? It’s a mess. The creaters have completely butchered Tolkien’s work.

They have created 3 for the elves and it’s not clear if the other 16 have been made. We saw 3 made by Celabrimbor
 
And it looks like the writers have completely overlooked Annatar

No they haven't. Annattar was the giver of gifts but his story was based on thousands of years of elven tales. Nobody knows the real story. Also no elf would ever admit to being fooled by a human. Halbrand is anattar.

I loved the way they way they did it. Giving us a window into Saurons mind.

Can't wait for the next season although it will be a while..
 
They have created 3 for the elves and it’s not clear if the other 16 have been made. We saw 3 made by Celabrimbor

They have not been made yet. They will change the story a bit. Sauron will probably create the dwarfen rings with the dwarves and same with the men. I think this is a better way to do it. The basic story is the same. I think he will return to the elves too in another form. I don't think halbrand will be his only disguise..they could actually do annattar now..

I'm.excited which way they gonna go..
 
They have not been made yet. They will change the story a bit. Sauron will probably create the dwarfen rings with the dwarves and same with the men. I think this is a better way to do it. The basic story is the same. I think he will return to the elves too in another form. I don't think halbrand will be his only disguise..they could actually do annattar now..

I'm.excited which way they gonna go..

Do you think they got the casting wrong?

The guy who played Adar was far better suited to be Halbrand. Him as Sauron would be cinematic perfection and is far more in line with the concept imagery we see of Sauron and Annatar. Maybe Joseph Mawle’s rates were far too much for the amount of screen time they would have to use him for if he were to be Halbrand. Also he might be on a very tight schedule considering he looks like a well sought after actor.

Top class actor!
 
Do you think they got the casting wrong?

The guy who played Adar was far better suited to be Halbrand. Him as Sauron would be cinematic perfection and is far more in line with the concept imagery we see of Sauron and Annatar. Maybe Joseph Mawle’s rates were far too much for the amount of screen time they would have to use him for if he were to be Halbrand. Also he might be on a very tight schedule considering he looks like a well sought after actor.

Top class actor!

Sauron is a seducer. He has to fly under the radar, be low-key.
 
There is a chance Halbrand is one of the split versions of Sauron

I don’t think Halbrand is human

The witch king was a human king

Him and Adar have some deep rooted history

Adar is probably a million years old considering he was a first Elv.

That’s pretty damming evidence

Halbrand’s character is depicted A’s Galadriel’s equal so far in the show

It is said that Galadriel was equal in power to Sauron.

I think he is either Sauron or another shape shifter like him.

The history that he has with Adar is compelling. The current Southlanders we see have not seen or heard of Adar before. They haven’t seen orcs for ages either. It makes no sense for him to know Adar from the past.

Also I find it weird that Adar being an elf doesn’t have the memory of him either.

I was going fine until here. Looking back at it, this is some good reading on my part!

Don’t understand how I could allow Nori’s friend Paddy deceive me like Annatar deceived the elves!
 
First half was good, second half was mediocre.

Spending so many episodes on Numenor deciding to help Galadriel or not and then they spend just a single episode on travelling from Mordor to Eregion (while Halbrand is severely injured??), pitching the idea of the rings, manipulating Celebrimbor, revealing Sauron and then completing the rings.

I'm not sure how the other rings being created will work, since Annatar created the the ones for humans and dwarves with the Elves.
 
I am not too sold on the show. It just didn’t feel like Tolkien but as a stand alone show, maybe not so bad. And who didn’t see who was Sauron and who was Gandalf from a mile away? I knew who he was the moment he ran into Galadriel.
 
I am not too sold on the show. It just didn’t feel like Tolkien but as a stand alone show, maybe not so bad. And who didn’t see who was Sauron and who was Gandalf from a mile away? I knew who he was the moment he ran into Galadriel.

I didn’t.
 
Joseph Mawle who played the role of Adar will not be returning for season 2.

This is big news. Season 2 showdown between Sauron and Adar was going to be the battle of Middle earth!

I don’t understand why he didn’t reprise his role, he is a key character and he plays the role perfectly!
 
Season 02 ends with the revelation of a familiar hero and a very sad demise of an icon.

Every scene between Sauron and Celebrimbor this season was nerve wrecking good. Phenomenal acting by both actors. They really stole the show this season which was without a doubt better than the first one.
 
Excellent and much improved season 2.

Vickers totally smashed it. So much tragedy and dismay in Middle Earth. Total chaos! Numenour downfall and 9 kings of men turned wraiths in Season 3 will be epic
 
Excellent and much improved season 2.

Vickers totally smashed it. So much tragedy and dismay in Middle Earth. Total chaos! Numenour downfall and 9 kings of men turned wraiths in Season 3 will be epic
So is the series worth watching now?. Only reason i didn't try s1 was because of the awful reviews.
 
So is the series worth watching now?. Only reason i didn't try s1 was because of the awful reviews.
S2 is excellent

I thought S1 is pretty good too if you fast forward the Harfoots storyline. They drag it down. S2 has much reduced Harfoots stuff and focuses more on Eregion, Khazad Dum and Numenour to quite an extent. Even the Southlands is reduced this time.

The Annatar+Celebrimbor arc is very intense
 
This show is an abomination to the one of the greatest literary works of modern era.
An utter sacrilege.
I gave up when I realized in the first episode itself that they tried to cram 2000 years of history as if happening on a scale of a few years. Character assassination of Galadriel and Elrond in first season. and utter stupid depiction of hobbits history and lets not go to the dumb fest representation of Numenor.

I saw one episode of season 2, where I heard they showed Tom Bombadil. Oh man, they butchered him too. Peter Jackson was wise enough not to try to put Tom Bombadil in the movies, it was always going to be hard but this show... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF not enough Fs in the world.
 
S2 is excellent

I thought S1 is pretty good too if you fast forward the Harfoots storyline. They drag it down. S2 has much reduced Harfoots stuff and focuses more on Eregion, Khazad Dum and Numenour to quite an extent. Even the Southlands is reduced this time.

The Annatar+Celebrimbor arc is very intense
Nice, ill give it a watch soon
 
This show is an abomination to the one of the greatest literary works of modern era.
An utter sacrilege.
I gave up when I realized in the first episode itself that they tried to cram 2000 years of history as if happening on a scale of a few years. Character assassination of Galadriel and Elrond in first season. and utter stupid depiction of hobbits history and lets not go to the dumb fest representation of Numenor.

I saw one episode of season 2, where I heard they showed Tom Bombadil. Oh man, they butchered him too. Peter Jackson was wise enough not to try to put Tom Bombadil in the movies, it was always going to be hard but this show... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF not enough Fs in the world.
It’s understandable to hate it if you are very insistent on the Lore to be followed, but the writers want to avoid it being predictable and work with what they have.

Tom Bombadil, the Ents, Eagles and Barrow Weights are just used as throwbacks to Tolkien legendarium, just a nod for those who really want to see stuff that is fascinating for the lore fans. The mention of Beren and Luthian, and Gondor’s fall by Annatar as well, him controlling the wolf and the sea monster. They are just there for sentimental value.
 
It’s understandable to hate it if you are very insistent on the Lore to be followed, but the writers want to avoid it being predictable and work with what they have.

Tom Bombadil, the Ents, Eagles and Barrow Weights are just used as throwbacks to Tolkien legendarium, just a nod for those who really want to see stuff that is fascinating for the lore fans. The mention of Beren and Luthian, and Gondor’s fall by Annatar as well, him controlling the wolf and the sea monster. They are just there for sentimental value.
I wouldnt mind if the writers tried to be original. Peter Jackson made tons and tons of changes to the lore.
Deleted a lot of fan favourite moments and characters. But all that added to the new masterpiece that was the LOTR trilogy.
I will give you some examples:
1. deletion of Glorfindel, Tom Bombadil
2. Gimli was not there for jokes, Nor were Merry and Pippin as foolish as shown in the movies
3. Ents scene could have been so so so much more, The song of their march is a master piece in the books which movies don't have.
4. Aragorn, was always sure footed
5. Arwen is hardly present in the books but Liv Tyler gets too much time for the sake of it.
6. Gollum's end was changed, the books ending is much different and shows Frodo in better light.
7. End of Saruman was completely changed.
8. Frodo is supposed to be 50 years old when they start they journey, almost 17 years after Bilbo left but movies show it just after Bilbo's party.
I can go on and on... but we don't mind those changes because the movies were a masterclass.

This show simply apes the dialogues and moments from the movies without the quality of the movies one bit.
Its a B- grade copy of the LOTR movies and has no relevance to the Tolkein.
Change the lore , but be original and even if you are aping some master piece from 20 years ago atleast get better with time.
 
I am watching this now and also been reading The Hobbit again at the same time, there’s quiet a bit in the book which surprisingly is in the show; references to Durin, Mithril and I know Tom Bombadil is not an original character, but he reminds me a lot of Beorn.

I’ve not finished yet but close to the half way mark and just enjoying it so far. It does feel like a bigger slow burn but I don’t mind, it’s very atmospheric and I just love the lore. I hike from time to time, and it’s great as well that they switched part of the filming to England, so much scenic beauty in our countryside and that’s what it’s about, adventure/hiking in these lands.

The one character I can’t stand is Theo & his nuhreh, reminds me of Naseem Shah @Rana

 
I am watching this now and also been reading The Hobbit again at the same time, there’s quiet a bit in the book which surprisingly is in the show; references to Durin, Mithril and I know Tom Bombadil is not an original character, but he reminds me a lot of Beorn.

I’ve not finished yet but close to the half way mark and just enjoying it so far. It does feel like a bigger slow burn but I don’t mind, it’s very atmospheric and I just love the lore. I hike from time to time, and it’s great as well that they switched part of the filming to England, so much scenic beauty in our countryside and that’s what it’s about, adventure/hiking in these lands.

The one character I can’t stand is Theo & his nuhreh, reminds me of Naseem Shah @Rana

Disa reminds me of Azam Khan
 
One thing I will say though is Peter Jackson should have been involved, maybe next season if old boy pipes down.
 
Season 1 makes a lot more sense after you watch Season 2. It puts Sauron’s mastery at deception into focus.

I understand the hate for ROP from hardcore readers of the Tolkien books and legendarium but it is what it is. I would prefer to watch an incorrect version of Tolkien’s work at a grand scale than watch Emily in Paris. My biggest regret is that this show has really done injustice to the elves community in the LOTR universe by showing them as mere rich humans rather than the way Peter Jackson depicted them as god like tall and wise angelic beings. Lord Elrond looks to weak. Lady Galadriel is beautiful but too human. I hope they show some transformation.
 
Season 1 makes a lot more sense after you watch Season 2. It puts Sauron’s mastery at deception into focus.

I understand the hate for ROP from hardcore readers of the Tolkien books and legendarium but it is what it is. I would prefer to watch an incorrect version of Tolkien’s work at a grand scale than watch Emily in Paris. My biggest regret is that this show has really done injustice to the elves community in the LOTR universe by showing them as mere rich humans rather than the way Peter Jackson depicted them as god like tall and wise angelic beings. Lord Elrond looks to weak. Lady Galadriel is beautiful but too human. I hope they show some transformation.
Exactly Bhai, as I have said its not just about incorrect or different take on original works. We have all enjoyed great variations of original works. MCU has so many freaking changes compared to what the stories were in comics. (The entire infinity war saga, The civil war storyline all have amazing story vastly different in comics)
LOTR trilogy made tons of changes too. But all these changes were to give us a beautiful and wonderful version of the stories. Its the art of story telling and direction and dialogues.

Rings of Power is something average arts students deliver for the college assignments. Elves who are just too human for mystical beings with life span of thousands of years already. Honestly, some of us could write better dialogues over a weekend.
 
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