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The mental toll of working from home

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Disclaimer first: i totally accept why in the current situation people are working from home, i am too and fully support the efforts to contain the current covid virus. on to the main thread

ive never WFH even one day in my life. i am fairly introverted however i always knew i enjoyed my interaction with co-workers, a bit of banter and getting out and about.

however never in my craziest estimation would i have assumed i would have found working from home so difficult. not just the isolation aspect, whereby just having some one to joke around with or annoy breaks up the monotony of the day.

adding to that the idea of your work and home not being two separate places. i live a fair way away from work, and that i liked that difference, a physical reminder that i was at home, not working.

once this current pandemic has passed i do not see myself viably ever wanting to work from home for more than two or three days a month, however given quite a lot of people do this regularly is there a socio-mental impact to this that is probably being underestimated at the moment, or am i just suffering from mild cabin fever?

a bit of a rant, but im going crazy stuck in my house and needed to vent.
 
I actually find it more relaxing and easy to work from home. Distractions are possible if you don't have a large enough isolated home office but you definitely save up on committing time, fuel costs. You can work at your own pace.
 
My office is still open but my boss has allowed me to work from home, although I still go to my office every couple of days to pick up files and stuff.

I must say, I find working from home quite depressing. I like my job and I like the people that I work with. I get along with them, but unfortunately, I have to work from home, which is quite a depressing and lonely experience. I hope and pray that things get back to normal as soon as possible, because staying at home all the time is beginning to take a toll on my mental health.

Screw you China!
 
Depends if you enjoy your work more than the people you work with. If you use work as having fun, socialising etc it will be different and tough.

In the UK most offices do a bit of work, laugh and joke a lot and then do a bit of work again.

I wouldnt like to work from home. Home for me is to chill.
 
I work in IT, and I'm quite used to WFH, however I'm not used to working from home in a 'lockdown'. However I couldnt do this forever. I need a day or 2 a week at the office. As much as WFH is convenient, physical interaction and routine (compared to virtual) are equally important.
 
Yo same, taking classes and exams online now sucks. Just being on campus and taking in the vibes was part of my day, it would get me motivated and energized but now I'm just lazy and tired at home.
 
Very tough on the brain! But one must recognize that these are unusual times. Best to keep yourself busy whilst working from home - This is why we have PP :)
 
Actually I am doing WFH since last 2 years. Before corona I used go gym and play cricket in weekends.
Now no physical activities and nothing, simply sitting in front of TV and lapy.

My belly grownup like never before:((
 
Actually I am doing WFH since last 2 years. Before corona I used go gym and play cricket in weekends.
Now no physical activities and nothing, simply sitting in front of TV and lapy.

My belly grownup like never before:((

You must have an exercise routine!
 
initially i thought i would like it. but honestly i can not focus much because of not enough resources available at home. I use two big screens at work but at home i have to depend only on laptop which makes my job complicated.
 
You guys should be thankful that you have the opportunity to work from home. I understand it is kind of depressing at times but the stress, that through walking miles to get to your office in a street where you dont see another living being except you.... The place which used to be chaotic has become some kind of morgue where only silence prevails and your ear itches to hear the sound of a car or bike.... Is on different level. Not to mention, everytime you go out, theres always a fear in mind that you may catch it while dealing with people....

Yup, its exhausting. I wish i could have worked from home.
 
Always hated working from home , I just can’t focus and I like meeting people . My wife though goes to office once in three months and used to being alone . So you can imagine , we already had one big fight over chores .

That reminds me , I have to do laundry before going to sleep :(
 
Yo same, taking classes and exams online now sucks. Just being on campus and taking in the vibes was part of my day, it would get me motivated and energized but now I'm just lazy and tired at home.
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I actually miss my hour drive to school now.

And I also miss being on campus, going to class, the gym, seeing friends, etc.

Honestly though, the worst part is being around my family.
 
I already had one at home , but everyone in my company carried theirs home . May be you should have done that ?

I have a desktop bro..not a laptop and i do remote desktop from home which is as annoying as it can get.
 
I have a desktop bro..not a laptop and i do remote desktop from home which is as annoying as it can get.

Damn , that’s painful . I have conveniently switched to my management role , anyway my manager keeps telling to delegate and reduce my technical work . Don’t even log into vpn , 4-5 hours of meetings and some excel work .
 
You guys should be thankful that you have the opportunity to work from home. I understand it is kind of depressing at times but the stress, that through walking miles to get to your office in a street where you dont see another living being except you.... The place which used to be chaotic has become some kind of morgue where only silence prevails and your ear itches to hear the sound of a car or bike.... Is on different level. Not to mention, everytime you go out, theres always a fear in mind that you may catch it while dealing with people....

Yup, its exhausting. I wish i could have worked from home.

valid point, the fews days into the lockdown i was going to work the constant vigilance did get tiring. im thinking about more long term where people assumed we are heading towards a culture where wfh is gonna be the norm.

initially i thought i would like it. but honestly i can not focus much because of not enough resources available at home. I use two big screens at work but at home i have to depend only on laptop which makes my job complicated.

ive gone down from 6 screens to a laptop, constant headaches, eventually had to grad a spare tele otherwise id have lost it. still really annoying.

I'm losing my mind

welcome to the club, hopefully venting here may help.

I wouldnt like to work from home. Home for me is to chill.

hundred percent agree.
 
Damn , that’s painful . I have conveniently switched to my management role , anyway my manager keeps telling to delegate and reduce my technical work . Don’t even log into vpn , 4-5 hours of meetings and some excel work .

do u enjoy it? my manager had told me i should have a similar focus for long term career development, but i find management without technical work really boring.
 
Damn , that’s painful . I have conveniently switched to my management role , anyway my manager keeps telling to delegate and reduce my technical work . Don’t even log into vpn , 4-5 hours of meetings and some excel work .

Mine is completely technical, thats why its even worse.
I’m not cut our for management! VPN across has been having issues as well due to the load.
 
do u enjoy it? my manager had told me i should have a similar focus for long term career development, but i find management without technical work really boring.

I was very reluctant 4 years back when I took the role , though I did 80% technical work for a long time . My company doesn’t stop me from doing technical work if I have the bandwidth , but it gets tough after a certain point . Have to say I have started to realise , I can be quite good at it . If it’s only people management it can be boring , but if you are involved in vendor management , procurements , budgeting, license management etc etc , basically if you have a free hand to take decisions it can be fun . I would say if you are good at decision making , then go for it ..the point being , have to see your self running not just your team , but department or may be even Org some day .
 
I work in IT, and I'm quite used to WFH, however I'm not used to working from home in a 'lockdown'. However I couldnt do this forever. I need a day or 2 a week at the office. As much as WFH is convenient, physical interaction and routine (compared to virtual) are equally important.

Same here. I can do everything from home if I want and delegate other on-site stuff, but I hate not actually being able to actually go in and see people face to face.
 
Same here. I can do everything from home if I want and delegate other on-site stuff, but I hate not actually being able to actually go in and see people face to face.

I miss the office banter. Just not the same on a zoom conference call! 😆
 
I hate it when people whine about working from home. It’s a luxury to work from home, and not everyone can afford it, so stop whining.
 
I hate it when people whine about working from home. It’s a luxury to work from home, and not everyone can afford it, so stop whining.
Totally agree. I am actually lucky to have that option to WFH. You do get distractions but you can work your way around it.

Not everyone is this lucky.
 
I hate it when people whine about working from home. It’s a luxury to work from home, and not everyone can afford it, so stop whining.

With schools closed it is not a luxury.

Having young kids around and do your work from home is not possible. This will have an effect on people.
 
Worked from home all week, hate it. Mentally there seems no switch off button. More then that, in office you can go on walkies with colleagues. At home, am stuck on my own. More then that, I miss my two screens and my web access is annoying from home.

I am putting on weight, staying indoors and working from home are main contributors.
 
I am putting on weight, staying indoors and working from home are main contributors.

i tried to buy some weight plates to get a work out, couldnt find them from anywhere online. have about 35kg in plates lying about but its not enough really.
 
Our management tells us that we should be 40-50% more productive when working from home - is that your experience also?
 
All the IT contract workers I have met have always mentioned how they just laze around the office watching football or some dramas on their lappys and get paid for it. Easy money.

Working from home should be a breeze now.
 
My job doesn't afford me the luxury of working from home.

Chemists are classed as an essential service and must stay open, though some places are reducing their opening hours.
 
Our management tells us that we should be 40-50% more productive when working from home - is that your experience also?
I was always find I work harder and longer hours when working from home. The problem for me is that I dont know when to stop...

Obviously it would be different for everyone else depending on how efficient the employer systems are and how cooperative your work teams and the other half are.
 
With schools closed it is not a luxury.

Having young kids around and do your work from home is not possible. This will have an effect on people.

Reminds me of this:

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I was always find I work harder and longer hours when working from home. The problem for me is that I dont know when to stop...

Obviously it would be different for everyone else depending on how efficient the employer systems are and how cooperative your work teams and the other half are.

im the opposite, i find it easier to work longer hours at work, esp if i feel like other people are hanging around with me rather than slogging away on my onesome at home.

Our management tells us that we should be 40-50% more productive when working from home - is that your experience also?

depends on how we are measuring productivity, in terms of cost, im guessing it would make sense since ur employer doesnt have to pay for your floor space, insurance, gas, electric, food in some cases, etc.

in terms of work done i dont think theres a massive difference.
 
People have just become snowflakes hungry for money and nothing else

Easy for some to say without considering the financial positions of others and their responsibilities.

If money was not important, I simply would not work. I work to provide.
 
Our management tells us that we should be 40-50% more productive when working from home - is that your experience also?

I am more productive at home as I have less distractions. In the office, 15/20 minutes of every 2 hours was spent on going to the toilet or going downstairs for a break. Ofcourse, I also enjoyed catching up with people in the office.
 
I am genuinely shocked at how difficult everyone here is finding it to work from home. Here's some tips that I have found really helped me.

Firstly, don't sit there frustrated that you're having to work from a laptop screen. Get a monitor or use your TV, get a HDMI cable and get yourself a wireless keyboard and mouse. Before you know it you have one large screen plus a laptop as your second screen.

Secondly, use Skype to keep in regular contact with colleagues. Video call them over Skype and just have a chat with them, even if it's just to have a moan. Don't sit there alone without that interaction.

Thirdly just remind yourself how great it is not to have to make that daily slog of a commute both in and out of work. When you turn off that computer, you're ready to chill.

Fourthly, just think of all the money you have saved from not paying for your commute and eating lunch from home all day.

Fifthly, do not spend your free time watching constant news about the coronavirus. News channels are in overdrive right now and they are repeating the same thing again and again. Stop watching it. If something important happens, you will surely find out about it anyway. Spend your free time watching things you never had time to watch - I stick to funny movies and stand up comedy on Netflix. Enjoy the extra free time you have been given as it won't last forever.

And finally, if you're still struggling, just think that this is for a few months only. In a few years this will be nothing more than an anecdote you'll tell people, about when you lived through coronavirus.
 
Not working but studying so I guess it still applies? I miss living on campus. Can't wait to go back.
 
If only it were possible for me to work from home. Mrs Robert too. We have nothing much to do all day.
 
Seems that this could well be the way forward

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Germany’s labour minister Hubertus Heil is working on legislation that would give employees the right to work from home, even after the current crisis when social distancing will be no longer needed.

“Everyone who wants to and whose workplace allows it should be able to work in a home office, even when the coronavirus pandemic is over,” Heil told the Bild am Sonntag newspaper.

About 25% of Germans are now estimated to be working from home, up from about 12% normally.

Heil said he would table legislation later in the year to enshrine the right to work from home in law, even full-time if that is what employees want.

Finance minister Olaf Scholz, like Heil a Social Democrat, expressed approval for the idea.

“The past weeks have shown how much is possible in the home office, this is a real achievement that we should not just abandon,” he told the paper.
 
Worked from home all week, hate it. Mentally there seems no switch off button. More then that, in office you can go on walkies with colleagues. At home, am stuck on my own. More then that, I miss my two screens and my web access is annoying from home.

I am putting on weight, staying indoors and working from home are main contributors.

I am still having the same issue. Working in the investment field makes life difficult as we had tax year end recently and now markets are volatile. Working from home has been difficult, more frustrating as I frequently have IT issues.
 
My dad complains that things which could easily be outsourced, resolved in 5-10 minutes in an office setting now ends up taking him an hour because he has to set up zoom conference calls, get everyone together which eats into his own time.

An accounting friend of mine complains about the fact he is unable to micromanage and watch over his team or delegate out work to people asap from home as he would normally do when in the office.

Its even worse for business owners. My phuppa who owns 5 popoyes franchise locations, ice cream location and a few automobile, oil change businesses has had to lay off 60% of his staff. My chacha who runs his engineering firm has already suffered a major loss in a contract he secured due to which he has had to lay off people and reduce salaries across the board including his own.

A friend of mine who runs his textile business in Pakistan has so far keep 5000 employees on payroll without any cuts but if the situation doesn't improve and even if the lockdown ends but if he is unable to recoup all of the lost orders, he will have to lay off people.

A famous driving instructor friend who used to boast of earning $10,000-15,000 a month in Canada, reached out to me for help a few days ago.

This is a big bloodbath which no one could have predicted or prepared for.
 
My dad complains that things which could easily be outsourced, resolved in 5-10 minutes in an office setting now ends up taking him an hour because he has to set up zoom conference calls, get everyone together which eats into his own time.

An accounting friend of mine complains about the fact he is unable to micromanage and watch over his team or delegate out work to people asap from home as he would normally do when in the office.

Its even worse for business owners. My phuppa who owns 5 popoyes franchise locations, ice cream location and a few automobile, oil change businesses has had to lay off 60% of his staff. My chacha who runs his engineering firm has already suffered a major loss in a contract he secured due to which he has had to lay off people and reduce salaries across the board including his own.

A friend of mine who runs his textile business in Pakistan has so far keep 5000 employees on payroll without any cuts but if the situation doesn't improve and even if the lockdown ends but if he is unable to recoup all of the lost orders, he will have to lay off people.

A famous driving instructor friend who used to boast of earning $10,000-15,000 a month in Canada, reached out to me for help a few days ago.

This is a big bloodbath which no one could have predicted or prepared for.

The cure is worst than the disease.
 
Barclays boss: Big offices 'may be a thing of the past'

Having thousands of bank workers in big, expensive city offices "may be a thing of the past", Barclays boss Jes Staley has said.

About 70,000 of Barclays' staff worldwide are working from home due to coronavirus lockdown measures.

This had led to a rethink of the bank's long term "location strategy", Mr Staley said.

It came as Barclays warned the pandemic could cost it some £2.1bn due to customers being unable to repay loans.

In recent years, banks worldwide have shifted staff away from expensive skyscrapers in financial hubs, but Barclays and its rivals still have busy offices in places such as London's Canary Wharf.

But Mr Staley said his bank was re-evaluating how much office space it needed, as it was now being run by staff working "from their kitchens".

He added that in the future retail branches could be used by investment banking and call centre workers, hinting at an end to long commutes for some workers.

"There will be a long-term adjustment to our location strategy," Mr Staley told reporters. "The notion of putting 7,000 people in the building may be a thing of the past."

'What about Pret?'

Neil Wilson, chief market analyst at Markets.com, said remote working would help banks like Barclays cut their costs.

But he said that if big City offices, call centres and branches closed there would be knock-on effects on surrounding businesses.

"What about the Pret [a Manger] or the pub that depends on lunch trade from the City workers filling up these offices every day? The impact on the economy will be permanent."

Barclays did not say when its offices and branches would reopen, but indicated sites in Hong Kong would be first, followed by Singapore and Tokyo, then Europe, with social distancing measures in place.

It came as the bank reported a 38% fall in profit for the first quarter - to £913m - linked to the coronavirus pandemic.

It blamed a £2.1bn impairment charge as it set money aside to cover its "initial estimates" of the costs of the crisis.

"Given the uncertainty around the developing economic downturn and low interest rate environment, 2020 is expected to be challenging," Mr Staley said.

M Staley also acknowledged Barclays may have made "mistakes" in its handling of a government loan scheme for businesses affected by the lockdown.

Many have complained it takes too long to access the cash, but Mr Staley said the the programme was "beginning to work".

He said Barclays had already given 3,760 business loans valued at £737m, as well as granting 238,000 customers mortgage and loan payment holidays.

He added that more than six million customers and clients were currently paying no personal overdraft or business banking charges.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52467965
 
Facebook and Google allow staff to work remotely until end of the year

Facebook Inc and Google have both said they will allow workers who are able to work remotely to do so until the end of the year.

Facebook was among the first tech firms to ask its employees to begin working remotely. It gave employees $1,000 (£807) bonuses for their work-from-home and childcare costs. In a statement today a spokesman for the tech giant said:

Facebook has taken the next step in its return to work philosophy. Today, we announced anyone who can do their work remotely can choose to do so through the end of the year. As you can imagine this is an evolving situation as employees and their families make important decisions re: return to work.

Facebook said it would reopen its offices on 6 July as coronavirus lockdowns are gradually lifted, but is still determining which employees will be asked to come in.

Google chief executive Sundar Pichai said that employees who need to return to the office will start being able to do so from July with enhanced safety measures in place. Google originally said it would keep its work from home policy until 1 June, but is extending it for seven more months.

The majority of employees who can carry out their jobs from home will be able to do so until the end of the year, Pichai added.
 
Staff at Twitter have been told they can continue working from home for as long as they see fit

The social media giant said it had continued to work effectively through the coronavirus lockdown
 
Facebook says it is going to permanently embrace remote working once the coronavirus pandemic ends - but this could come at a cost for employees.

The world's biggest social network is going to start "aggressively opening up remote hiring" - with chief executive Mark Zuckerberg revealing that he expects about 50% of its workforce will end up doing their jobs outside of Facebook's offices within 10 years.

However, the generous compensation packages that accompany a job in Silicon Valley could end up becoming a thing of the past.

Mr Zuckerberg said employees who choose to live in less expensive areas of the country could end up seeing their pay adjusted.

"We pay very well, basically at the top of the market, but we pay a market rate. And that varies by location, so we're going to continue that principle here," the CEO added.

Facebook has almost 50,000 employees, and the announcement could have a significant impact on the Californian city of San Francisco, where rapid growth in the tech sector has put the housing market and transport infrastructure under strain.

The company is planning to build three new "hubs" in the cities of Atlanta, Dallas and Denver so workers who live nearby can occasionally gather.

It is unclear what the mass move to home working would mean for Facebook's finances.

Although some savings would be made on property and food - and potentially salaries - ensuring staff have the equipment they need for home working could prove expensive.

The company's plush headquarters in Menlo Park, complete with a rooftop garden, would be kept under the radical proposals.

According to Mr Zuckerberg, about 60% of Facebook employees prefer a flexible approach to work that offers a blend of time in the office and at home.

Of this group, roughly 50% would move to another region given the chance.

Other, smaller tech companies - including rival social media platform Twitter - have also said they plan to allow employees to continue working remotely indefinitely.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...rmanently-but-it-will-come-at-a-cost-11992490
 
When lockdown started in March, workers across the UK packed up their office equipment and set up work stations in their own homes.

Bedrooms, kitchen counter-tops and dining tables became the new way of working for millions of people.

According to the ONS, 30% of adults in the UK were exclusively working from home at the start of July.

From 1 August, employers in England can allow staff back into offices at their own discretion when they feel it's safe to do so.

But now it's time to return to those communal workplaces, research from Eskenzi suggests that 91% of the UK's office workers would like to work from home at least part of the time.

So why are so many office staff keen to keep working from home?

For Jon Williams, who is 43 and a software developer from Lyme Regis, working from home has helped him save both time and money.

"I was spending £65 on petrol every two weeks before lockdown," he says. But because he no longer has an hour-long daily commute, he hasn't had to fill his car up since March.

Jon also noticed he's saving money on his food shop, because he's not stopping at the supermarket on the way home from work. "It's like getting a pay rise without receiving any more money", he says.

"I've saved about £1,600 overall, and I'm putting extra money into my ISA every month and plan to spend it on taking a holiday when it seems safer to do so."

Now restrictions are easing, Jon's employers are open to the idea of remote working in the future too. Currently there are no plans to bring staff back into his office. "The tech has been working so well, this is likely to be more of a permanent move," he says.

'We're spending more time together as a family'

Nirali Amin, a qualified bookkeeper from Watford, has discovered that working from home gives her more quality time with her sons.

"It's so nice to be working from home and looking after the kids," says 39-year-old Nirali. With both parents in full-time work, she felt they were missing out on their children growing up.

It wasn't all plain sailing at first, though. "The first two weeks at home together were a little awkward," she admits. It took a while to work out who was going to use which space in the house. With both children using the dining table for school work, their parents were left to sort their working routines around them.

But now, Nirali believes the bond she has with her children is stronger than ever before. Prior to lockdown, she feels they had less time to discuss family matters in depth together. "We were either stressed or extra tired all the time - now we understand their needs better."

Nirali's husband, Tushar Patel, 43, agrees. "We've never had so much time off together as a family. We both really feel that we lost some time together when the kids were younger."

They're making up for it with family board game nights and helping the children with their studies during the day.

Both Nirali and Tushar think working from home should be an option for all parents where possible - although Nirali will be returning to her office on 3 August. Tushar, who works for Harrow Council in Greater London, doesn't yet know when he'll be back in his workplace.

Sarah Caisley, who lives in Harlow, says she's noticed her mental health has "improved substantially" since she's been working from home.

Sarah, 30, is an animator and usually works in London. She is finding that not being in an open office space with so many people around her desk has made it easier to "focus on work".

She says it is a combination of factors making her feel "much less stressed and anxious than I did when we were full-time in the office". One major difference is being able to take more time to herself.

"If I was having difficulty concentrating or finding inspiration in the office, I just had to push through that feeling. Now I can go and have a chat to my husband, or play with the cat or sit in the garden for 10 minutes and come back fresh.

"I think I didn't realise how much of a difference to my mental wellbeing things like that could make."

Aside from this, not having to commute into central London is saving Sarah £450 a month on train fares, which has relieved financial stress.

Sarah says her employer is "pretty open" to the idea of staff working from home in the future and has no plans to bring people back into work next week. Longer term, she and her husband, Iain, hope to move further away from London - and remote working would offer them a "bigger choice of places" to live.

'I've realised how valuable I am to my clients'

Laura (not her real name) is an aerobics instructor who has been working for the same health club for more than two decades and "really doesn't want to" go back.

Since the gyms were closed Laura has been running online classes for her regular customers from her living room, and she says it's really helped her realise how valuable she is. "I've earned more for doing less," she observes.

"I've just plodded on without a pay rise for 20 years. Now I realise people don't care about the gym facilities, they just want me as their instructor.

"It's made me realise I work for peanuts for someone else when they take all the profit."

Laura is going back to work on site for the next couple of weeks, but is making plans to expand her online classes in the future.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53580656
 
Always hated working from home , I just can’t focus and I like meeting people . My wife though goes to office once in three months and used to being alone . So you can imagine , we already had one big fight over chores .

That reminds me , I have to do laundry before going to sleep :(
Out of curiosity which ‘regular’ job allowed he to only show up once in 3 months at the office? I’m assuming you didn’t mean her own private practise or sth
 
Some of the perks I had at work was free food and commuting costs etc so due to wfh I’m actually losing money since I’m spending way more on food and utility costs
 
been back at the office now since 1st july, i do prefer working from the office, like most people have stated i do need to speak to people
 
I have been working from home since March and enjoying working but I kinda feel our department got demoted now instead of working with Syetem and Security Engineers we have to work with our helpdesk but its ok I guess because during this working from home thing I studied for my certifications more and was also able to help out my pregnant wife and finally became dad for the second time on July 3rd and spending precious time with my newly born daughter :heart:
 
Some of the perks I had at work was free food and commuting costs etc so due to wfh I’m actually losing money since I’m spending way more on food and utility costs

ya same here bro, I am losing my every Wednesday ICE Cream because of this pandemic :po:
 
I’m not sure how many vacation(paid time-off) you have left but from my allotted 30 days I have t taken a single day yet. My company gave us 5 extra COVID days and I’ve used up all of them. Starting in August I’ll be taking a week off every month since we may not return to work this year.
 
I absolutely love wfh. Really cba with the office culture anymore and the time saved from travelling and commuting has allowed me to do some side hustles.

Honestly this has been a real blessing and I personally have no intention of going back to the office.
 
i had enough tbh, for the past month i've been going into office a few days a week, and just cant wfh with the same level of productivity. managed to get my hours changed which is even better cos i love working early in the morning and leaves me with enough of the day after to relax.

i think this will be the eventual norm, where people come in half the days, and don't the other half because not having a proper office work force will kill off city centres, and result in significant lay offs and further economic drag.

apart from the main street where i work the rest of the place looks like an absolute ghost town most of the time.
 
Out of curiosity which ‘regular’ job allowed he to only show up once in 3 months at the office? I’m assuming you didn’t mean her own private practise or sth

Shes in consulting , with Deloitte ..they are not expected to be in office . They go to office only when some one comes down from other locations .
it was the same when I was with IBM , especially women work a lot at home . I met one lady who was in my team after 10-11 months after I had joined and I think I may have seen her 3-4 times in next 3 years before I quit .
 
Out of curiosity which ‘regular’ job allowed he to only show up once in 3 months at the office? I’m assuming you didn’t mean her own private practise or sth

My IT architect is similar, had a medical condition though. When the Pandemic hit he was already set, although tbf my company was allowing one WFH per week anyway.

Recently I filled a survey from the Property Management of my building and one of the questions was :
-If a nearby office is provided to you , how often will you be going there to work?

My guess is WeWork eventhough has flopped might actually end up being the future in maybe a more distributed way.
 
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This changed in mid April when I started a new job which was considered "essential service". Now I'm happy. For most of the summer there was zero traffic on the roads and also the new office was empty for the most part. Now people are starting to comeback and roads and highways are busy again, whats worse is that I have to make small talk :danish
 
Big change and the negative is the lack of chit chat and banter with the colleagues. This has a big psychological impact on employee's. Also at work there is a set time to start, lunch, tea then the day is over. During this period we can again mingle with colleagues even make social plans. At home these things are all lacking. All my colleagues miss each other, I am missing the Cricket, Football and political talks with my colleagues including the Indian ones.
 
city investment firm Schroders becomes first to tell staff to work from home... permanently

Fund manager Schroders has become the first major London institution to tell its workers they will no longer be required to come into the office, even when the pandemic is over.

The FTSE 100 company employs more than 5,000 worldwide and recently overtook Standard Life Aberdeen as Europe’s biggest listed asset manager.

Its plan to change working patterns was revealed in an internal staff memo seen by the Daily Telegraph and represents a major shift in the traditional nine-to-five working arrangement.

The company has no plans to close its offices in London, though chief executive Peter Harrison said recently that the pandemic had accelerated the move towards more flexible working by 20 years.

Its decision to make home working a permanent arrangement could prompt others to follow suit.

HSBC has said just 20% of its 10,000 London staff will return to their offices next month. Natwest RBS was unable to provide figures on its office requirements in Edinburgh, London and elsewhere, though it has an ongoing programme of office rationalisation.

TSB told Daily Business earlier this month that it expects to confirm its office working plans next month. The majority of its office-based employees (c.3,500) are working from home and it is consulting with them on how best to return to offices.

Barclays boss Jess Staley said earlier in the summer that there could be a change in the bank’s office requirements, although he later rowed back on his comments.

Stockbroker Numis has told staff that Monday to Friday office working “will not return”.

Standard Life Aberdeen’s outgoing CEO expects its Edinburgh offices to operate at 40% capacity when staff return to their desks.

Keith Skeoch told Daily Business there would be a “different way of working” with “some teams in and some teams out’ into next year.

He added that he was aware of the “gloom” surrounding the property sector over the future of the office market.

Recent research from the CBI reveals that 37% of firms are conducting, or planning to conduct, conversations with landlords or managing agents to review their office space needs.

The Bank of England has become concerned at the low level of activity in the City of London, while some have seen the shift towards home working as an opportunity to cut costs.

The property market and businesses such as cafes and restaurants that rely on office workers are concerned that widespread adoption of home working will turn commercial centres – already suffering from the effects of online shopping – into ghost towns.

It also signals a reversal of “presenteeism” characterised by staff working long hours or turning up at the office when they are not required or should be taking time off.

Instead, offices are expected to become places where people meet for physical group interaction and meeting clients while day-to-day work is done remotely.

A transition towards home working would benefit the transport system which has struggled for years to cope with congested trains and roads. Fewer commuters will mean more comfortable and reliable journeys, with an accompanying reduction in stress and pollution.
 
Most of my friends complain atleast by going to the office, they had set timings and they knew they could leave their work behind in the office when going home, but working from home now means you can no longer have a 8-4, 9-5, 10-6 approach as you can be doing something work related at 6 in the morning or at 10 at night.

Plus the frustration of having to constantly deal with kids and spouse 24/7 takes a toll. People want to be able to get out of the house. Some complain that certain expenses like stationary, supplies, utilities have gone up for which they aren't getting reimbursed by employers. Some employers have also cut wages to account for lower fuel, transportation costs for employees as they are working from home
 
Most of my friends complain atleast by going to the office, they had set timings and they knew they could leave their work behind in the office when going home, but working from home now means you can no longer have a 8-4, 9-5, 10-6 approach as you can be doing something work related at 6 in the morning or at 10 at night.

Plus the frustration of having to constantly deal with kids and spouse 24/7 takes a toll. People want to be able to get out of the house. Some complain that certain expenses like stationary, supplies, utilities have gone up for which they aren't getting reimbursed by employers. Some employers have also cut wages to account for lower fuel, transportation costs for employees as they are working from home

Are you married now? :inti
 
many firms are now giving memberships for coworking spaces, however with the pandemic i expect they have lost there buzz.
 
many firms are now giving memberships for coworking spaces, however with the pandemic i expect they have lost there buzz.

Actually it will enhance even more next year, the company that manages my office building they actually sent a survey (filled it coz apparently they donate for each survey filled)

and one question went like:
If an office space is provided to near your home would you be going to office?

it was an interesting question among all the other safety ones , Wework might had failed but i think workspace sharing will be the future 10 years from now.(imo, i have been wrong about multiple things).
 
I finally got a docstation for home.. still doing RD so its stuck to one screen but atleast its a big one and I can easily read docs and google on the other one.. seems like a worthy investment for now but have to keep all youtube and at times PP too off or blocked :P
 
I finally got a docstation for home.. still doing RD so its stuck to one screen but atleast its a big one and I can easily read docs and google on the other one.. seems like a worthy investment for now but have to keep all youtube and at times PP too off or blocked :P

What’s RD?
 
Actually it will enhance even more next year, the company that manages my office building they actually sent a survey (filled it coz apparently they donate for each survey filled)

and one question went like:
If an office space is provided to near your home would you be going to office?

it was an interesting question among all the other safety ones , Wework might had failed but i think workspace sharing will be the future 10 years from now.(imo, i have been wrong about multiple things).

I think it will happen as tech makes going to the office useless and expensive, the only problem is the effect it will have on the hospitality sector, as now both pm johnson and mayor khan are concerned about the lunch time trade being hit in the city, ofcourse that business doesnt just evaporate, it just changes to local businesses as you order from nearby home, but they wont want the city to be hit too hard.

Also wework didnt fail because of coworking, they failed because of other shady deals they were doing outside of coworking and wanting to expand in other areas, other coworking companies are doing well.
 
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