Hitman
Test Debutant
- Joined
- Feb 25, 2013
- Runs
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Among the Indians, Ravi Shastri and Kris Srikkant.
Surprising that no one has mentioned these two!
True, both of them were vastly overrated.
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Among the Indians, Ravi Shastri and Kris Srikkant.
Surprising that no one has mentioned these two!
Well, even Wasim was not better than Donald, McGrath and Ambrose. So not being among the top 3 is a function of competition and can't be the sole criterion of judging some one as ATG.
I also think KP and Gilchrist are overrated.
Good stats but not ATG level by any means yet they still find themselves in many World XI and Best XI teams for some reason.
All formats combined
Waqar Younis
Anil Kumble
James Anderson
None of them is an ATG nor even among top 3 bowlers in their playing days.
Well, even Wasim was not better than Donald, McGrath and Ambrose. So not being among the top 3 is a function of competition and can't be the sole criterion of judging some one as ATG.
Mathew Hayden
Masrafe Mortaza
Alan Donald
Kumar Sangakkarra
Kevin Pietersen
Anil Kumble
Mathew Hayden is underrated if anything, especially on this forum.
To be known as a great aggressive opener in ODIs, and have a strike rate of 78 would be enough for me to consider him overrated.
For example, Sanath has a SR of 91.
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overrated players from each team currently
1. the whole english team
2. faf du plessis
3. the t20 mercenaries from west indies - the gayles, bravos, pollards, narines, samuels etc..
4. jaspreet bumrah
5. warner
6. southee
7. rashid khan from afghanistan
no one in srilanka is rated, so is the case with pakistan and even though bangladeshi supporters will think that their's is the team, nada.
historically it has to be one of the two batsmen who are considered as world beaters and supreme lord commanders of planet earth. one played one team. the other surfed on a really massive tide. they aren't horrible, maybe even the best but if aliens take on us in an intergalactical cricket match in an alternate universe, there will be better batsmen than both of them who can make the top 6.
Jack Hobbs for mine. Now I'm not at all denying his greatness but I think he's way overrated by a lot of people who haven't even seen him play. Not exactly sure what the deal is there.
Wasim is usually found in every expert's dream team because he had crazy bowling skills and he was a good batsman down the order. Even if we consider his bowling skills were atleast equal if not more than Donald and McGrath, he was a bowling allrounder and thus umatched in his era as a player. Donald and Mcgrath both were ducks with the bat. So Wasim is gonna be in everones dream XI.
With respect to Waqar, I agree definitely he is an ATG.
Jack Hobbs for mine. Now I'm not at all denying his greatness but I think he's way overrated by a lot of people who haven't even seen him play. Not exactly sure what the deal is there.
Comparing Waqar with Anderson and Kumble.![]()
If all formats combined and being among the top 3 is criterion then in 90s you did have more than 3 ATG bowlers even excluding Waqar. Being among the top 3 may work fine in most decades, but some time you can have 4-5 gun bowlers who may go down as ATGs.
My post was regarding overrating Waqar. The majority of Pakistani fans rate him above the likes of McGrath, Steyn, and Ambrose which is ridiculous when he was not even among the top 3 bowlers ever in his career.
Don't overlook his PPCL record, shame on you!
Even [MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] of all ppl managed to pile on the runs in PPCL. Now we all know how that worked out![]()
Why not? Both of them have more test wickets than Waqar.
Misbah ul haq, he always wastes balls and plays odi like test. He also scores all of half centuries by wasting balls. He also lost the t20 world cup 2007 for us and the 2011 world cup for us. Thank god he retired
Even Michael Atherton has more Test runs than Don Bradman![]()
After how many tests?
umar akmal
And how many Tests both Kumble and Anderson have played more than Waqar?
Run machine, remember how I used to deposit Shaz over the ropes over and over again?