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The Muslims of Myanmar: Has the UN failed the Rohingya?


It's one province due to sepratist activity.

I dont need to read your links as Im not ignorant like you.

Heres a fun fact to tell your grandchildren. There were Muslim generals in the Chinese armies going back centuries. In fact Islam has more freedom in China than most religions.

Now go.
 
It's one province due to sepratist activity.

I dont need to read your links as Im not ignorant like you.

Heres a fun fact to tell your grandchildren. There were Muslim generals in the Chinese armies going back centuries. In fact Islam has more freedom in China than most religions.

Now go.

So now not being able to practice religion is justified because of political reasons? Didn't expect you to be apologist for China but who am I to stop you.
 
Compassion would come from Family (Ummah) first. Sitting on an internet forum and complaining would not work.

All Arab countries should take a few thousand and the problem will be solved. Instead of importing cheap labor from South India, Arab countries should import these Rohingya as workers.

If the Rohingyas are Bengali they belong in the subcontinent not Arabia. On the one hand you guys are always crying that the British divided India, then when it suits you you want to keep it divided yourselves because of your religious prejudice. Mother India? You are having a laugh.
 
If the Rohingyas are Bengali they belong in the subcontinent not Arabia. On the one hand you guys are always crying that the British divided India, then when it suits you you want to keep it divided yourselves because of your religious prejudice. Mother India? You are having a laugh.

No muslim ummah love for Rohingya muslims?Not even from Pakistan?

Partition happened done and dusted.Dont know who is crying.Many are glad that we are separated.

What religious prejudice?We took in millions of bangladeshis when they were being butchered by their own muslim brothers.

Not one pakistani has said that Pakistan should take these refugees but only give sermons to India.

I am glad India is closing itself to all kinds of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers.Our resources are for us.For upliftment of our poor.
 
No muslim ummah love for Rohingya muslims?Not even from Pakistan?

Partition happened done and dusted.Dont know who is crying.Many are glad that we are separated.

What religious prejudice?We took in millions of bangladeshis when they were being butchered by their own muslim brothers.

Not one pakistani has said that Pakistan should take these refugees but only give sermons to India.

I am glad India is closing itself to all kinds of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers.Our resources are for us.For upliftment of our poor.

Pakistan would happily take these refugees but obviously for geographical reasons they are ending up in India as Bengal undivided used to be part of India. If you want Pakistan to take them through brotherly love as part of the Ummah, then logically the whole of India would be part of that Ummah. So if you are suggesting that India once again becomes part of the Islamic caliphate as it was under Moghul rule, then I suppose you could make a case for it. Is that what you want?
 
Pakistan would happily take these refugees but obviously for geographical reasons they are ending up in India as Bengal undivided used to be part of India. If you want Pakistan to take them through brotherly love as part of the Ummah, then logically the whole of India would be part of that Ummah. So if you are suggesting that India once again becomes part of the Islamic caliphate as it was under Moghul rule, then I suppose you could make a case for it. Is that what you want?

If Pakistan will happily take them then tgey should as India to deport these Rohingyas to Pakistan.

Why will a country with 80% plus non muslims be part of any ummah?

What does Pakistanis got to do with Mughals?Are Pakistanis Barlas?

Since Pakistanis are telling Indians to keep these refugees and show compassion,Pakistanis should put their money where there mouth is and take them in.And since Pakistanis also seem to be so concerned about what happens to muslims in Palestine or Kashmir or Kerala or other parts of India,in the name of ummah then actually help people who are looking for help.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Aung San Suu Kyi's Burma/Myanmar is ethnically cleansing <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rohingya?src=hash">#Rohingya</a> and this is the latest excuse. Criminal. <a href="https://t.co/1jmrYEECV3">https://t.co/1jmrYEECV3</a>?amp=1</p>— Sana Saeed (@SanaSaeed) <a href="https://twitter.com/SanaSaeed/status/902778972844515328">30 August 2017</a></blockquote>
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If Pakistan will happily take them then tgey should as India to deport these Rohingyas to Pakistan.

Why will a country with 80% plus non muslims be part of any ummah?

What does Pakistanis got to do with Mughals?Are Pakistanis Barlas?

Since Pakistanis are telling Indians to keep these refugees and show compassion,Pakistanis should put their money where there mouth is and take them in.And since Pakistanis also seem to be so concerned about what happens to muslims in Palestine or Kashmir or Kerala or other parts of India,in the name of ummah then actually help people who are looking for help.

So then if Pakistan is not part of some Muslim Ummah (which you keep bleating about) then why is it responsibility of Pakistan to look after refugees on India's borders?
 
So then if Pakistan is not part of some Muslim Ummah (which you keep bleating about) then why is it responsibility of Pakistan to look after refugees on India's borders?

If Pakistanis cannot take Rohingyas then dont give sermons to India about compassion and keeping these Rohingyas.

Put your money where your mouth is.
 
If Pakistanis cannot take Rohingyas then dont give sermons to India about compassion and keeping these Rohingyas.

Put your money where your mouth is.

IIRC I didn't give sermons about India taking any immigrants, just pointed out to a poster who said India had no room for refugees, that they had no problem taking immigrants from Pakistan as long as they were Hindu or Sikh.
 
IIRC I didn't give sermons about India taking any immigrants, just pointed out to a poster who said India had no room for refugees, that they had no problem taking immigrants from Pakistan as long as they were Hindu or Sikh.

We also took refugees from BD irrespective of religion.India also took in refugees from Pakistan Lanka etc.We have enough refugees of all types.

So no more refugees of any kind.
 
We also took refugees from BD irrespective of religion.India also took in refugees from Pakistan Lanka etc.We have enough refugees of all types.

So no more refugees of any kind.

You should have been India's External Affairs Minister/Home Minister. Don't get me wrong, you are a great poster too, as no one ever wins debates with you, but it is India's loss that you are not shaping her policies.
 
You should have been India's External Affairs Minister/Home Minister. Don't get me wrong, you are a great poster too, as no one ever wins debates with you, but it is India's loss that you are not shaping her policies.

I am one of 100s of millions who are voting and shaping the policies of my country.The result is the govt decision to deport illegal immigrants.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shameful how the world, esp the Muslim World, is ignoring the plight of the Rohingyas: <a href="https://t.co/7S0Edpj7WX">https://t.co/7S0Edpj7WX</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/903235826603188224">August 31, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Israeli slaughter Palestinians = Muslims around the world jump up & down in anger..stage mass protests. My FB would be full of pro-Palestinian posts.

Mynamar- Same Muslims are silent.

Hypocrisy from all sides.
 
Israeli slaughter Palestinians = Muslims around the world jump up & down in anger..stage mass protests. My FB would be full of pro-Palestinian posts.

Mynamar- Same Muslims are silent.

Hypocrisy from all sides.

If the Rohingyas were Arab on the other hand...
 
If the Rohingyas were Arab on the other hand...

Israel is the only Arab country that is a political football, because it used to be called Palestine before the it became a Jewish state. Otherwise there has been all sorts of mayhem and slaughter ongoing in Iraq, Syria, Yemen and Libya, no one gives a hoot.
 
On topic, just reading today that 20,000 Rohingyas have fled to Bangladesh and another 20,000 are still in limbo on the run from the Buddhist mobs in Burma. Bangladesh themselves need to be doing more to accommodate these refugees, especially if it's true that most of them originate from Bengal in the first place. I suppose there might be some question whether they should go to Bangladesh or Indian Bengal since the Rohingyas have been living in Burma for generations so would never have had Bangladeshi citizenship.
 
On topic, just reading today that 20,000 Rohingyas have fled to Bangladesh and another 20,000 are still in limbo on the run from the Buddhist mobs in Burma. Bangladesh themselves need to be doing more to accommodate these refugees, especially if it's true that most of them originate from Bengal in the first place. I suppose there might be some question whether they should go to Bangladesh or Indian Bengal since the Rohingyas have been living in Burma for generations so would never have had Bangladeshi citizenship.

No thank you, India already have millions of illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. Dont need more

We are already suffering with mass population, dont want anymore burden.
 
On topic, just reading today that 20,000 Rohingyas have fled to Bangladesh and another 20,000 are still in limbo on the run from the Buddhist mobs in Burma. Bangladesh themselves need to be doing more to accommodate these refugees, especially if it's true that most of them originate from Bengal in the first place. I suppose there might be some question whether they should go to Bangladesh or Indian Bengal since the Rohingyas have been living in Burma for generations so would never have had Bangladeshi citizenship.

Those guys might have originated from undivided Bengal. But now Bengal is split. Muslim Bengalis got Bangladesh. Rohingyas should move to Bangladesh or may be some filthy rich Arab country could offer them refuge or accept them Germany Style.

One thing Pakistan can do is, ask their best friend China to command Burma to stop the mayhem. Burma is under the grip of China. They will listen to China. So Pakistan can help out Rohingyas by talking to China.
 
No thank you, India already have millions of illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. Dont need more

We are already suffering with mass population, dont want anymore burden.

I don't understand how India has a mass population problem, considering Indians have been leaving the country for generations now. Indian immigrants are in every corner of the world, so if they are expecting to be accepted as immigrants, perhaps they should tolerate some immigration as well? I feel that all things considered, perhaps family planning might be a better solution for India if they want to control the population explosion rather than blame it on the refugee crisis.
 
I don't understand how India has a mass population problem, considering Indians have been leaving the country for generations now. Indian immigrants are in every corner of the world, so if they are expecting to be accepted as immigrants, perhaps they should tolerate some immigration as well? I feel that all things considered, perhaps family planning might be a better solution for India if they want to control the population explosion rather than blame it on the refugee crisis.

We have already accepted millions of Bangladeshi during 70s.
Secondly, Indians do have somewhat family planning however, its not gonna ease up the massive population burden. As of now, roughly 300M people are still living under poverty and thats huge. Taking in more refugee will only add burden to the government. If im not wrong, few Rohingyas did managed to get in India, but are now living by waste land and building illegal huts and some of them are infected with diseases, and not to mention they dont have dime on them.
Allowing refugees with some economic stability is fine, as they will be able to look after themselves initially until they get blend in with others. But the real problem is the one who have no money, they will add burden to government. Despite recent economic boom, we are still not that rich that can afford to take some refugees and provide them basic needs. Lastly, We are not obligated to take in refugees when we are struggling to help our own population.
 
https://www.samaa.tv/international/2017/09/erdogan-accuses-myanmar-genocide-rohingya/

ANKARA: Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Friday accused Myanmar of “genocide” against the Rohingya Muslim minority, who have fled in the tens of thousands across the border into Bangladesh to escape ethnic violence.

“There is a genocide there,” Erdogan said in a speech in Istanbul during the Islamic Eid al-Adha feast, which commemorates Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice his son.

“Those who close their eyes to this genocide perpetuated under the cover of democracy are its collaborators”.

Around 400 people — most of them Rohingya Muslims — have died in violence searing through Myanmar’s northwestern Rakhine state, the army chief’s office said Friday.

Reports of massacres and the systematic torching of villages by security forces — as well as by militants — have further amplified tensions, raising fears that communal violence in Rakhine is spinning out of control.

To escape the violence, about 20,000 Rohingya have massed along the Bangladeshi frontier, barred from entering the South Asian country, while scores of desperate people have drowned attempting to cross the Naf, a border river, in makeshift boats.

Erdogan said he would bring up the issue at the next UN General Assembly in New York later this month, adding that he had already talked to UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres and other Muslim leaders.

According to the state-run Anadolu news agency, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu told Bangladeshi authorities to “open your doors,” adding that the country would cover the costs associated with letting in more Rohingya.

Bangladesh already hosts 400,000 Rohingya and does not want more.

“We have called upon the Organization of Islamic Cooperation,” Cavusoglu said. “We will organise a summit this year” on the issue. “We have to find a definitive solution to this problem”.

The UN Security Council met behind closed doors on Wednesday to discuss the violence, but there was no formal statement on the crisis.

On Friday, Guterres said he was “deeply concerned” by the situation in Myanmar and called for “restraint and calm to avoid a humanitarian catastrophe”.

The Rohingya are reviled in Myanmar, where the roughly one million-strong community are accused of being illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. – AFP
 
We have already accepted millions of Bangladeshi during 70s.
Secondly, Indians do have somewhat family planning however, its not gonna ease up the massive population burden. As of now, roughly 300M people are still living under poverty and thats huge. Taking in more refugee will only add burden to the government. If im not wrong, few Rohingyas did managed to get in India, but are now living by waste land and building illegal huts and some of them are infected with diseases, and not to mention they dont have dime on them.
Allowing refugees with some economic stability is fine, as they will be able to look after themselves initially until they get blend in with others. But the real problem is the one who have no money, they will add burden to government. Despite recent economic boom, we are still not that rich that can afford to take some refugees and provide them basic needs. Lastly, We are not obligated to take in refugees when we are struggling to help our own population.

My point was, that if India is over-crowded, it's not because of immigration, I would guess the number of immigrants India has accepted is far less than the millions upon millions who have emigrated to other countries, from Africa, the Arab lands and as far as Europe. So yes, family planning seems to be the biggest issue for India.

I agree though, India isn't obliged to accept the children of what used to be united India. Partition has worked out well for divided India in that sense. Shame for the Rohingyas, they are now left stranded as Bangladesh is also taking a similar stand.
 
So Rohingyas don't speak Bengali. They speak Rohingyas language and written script is Arabic. Interesting. So they are not really Bengalis.
They don't look Arab and they don't look Burmese.
They look Bangladeshi, but don't speak Bengali.
 
So Rohingyas don't speak Bengali. They speak Rohingyas language and written script is Arabic. Interesting. So they are not really Bengalis.
They don't look Arab and they don't look Burmese.
They look Bangladeshi, but don't speak Bengali.

Among the videos I have seen, they speak a dialect of Bengali.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rohingya Muslims fleeing Myanmar by boat as their homes are set ablaze by a Nobel Peace Prize recipient's regime. <a href="https://t.co/gJSOJT1LRv">pic.twitter.com/gJSOJT1LRv</a></p>— CJ Werleman (@cjwerleman) <a href="https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/904029792655228929">September 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I remember reading an article where Rohingyas were fleeing their country on a boat and were refused entry into bangladesh and other neighbouring countries. They reached Malaysian port and there too were denied entry.

South Asian countries are poor countries, dont think they have will, and the capacity to provide refuge to thousands of Rohingyas. Seems like Rohingyas belong to 'No Land'. Myanmmar dont want them and Bangladesh wont allow them.

I just hope for once India stay out of this mess and not try to be 'Big saviour'. Indian resources should be used for the upliftment of poverty ridden Indians in rural areas.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41139319. Boris Johnson wants Aung San Suu Kyi that what is happening to Burma is besmirching the countrys reputation.

None of the mainstream British newspapers will have carried Boris Johnson's quote as a main feature, at least not the ones which are actually read by the British public. I just checked the Daily Mail and the headlines are about Wayne Rooney's wife's humiliation at him being caught drunk driving. So my impression is that the vast majority of the world is not informed of what is going on in Burma, or frankly, don't care.
 
@Cpt.Rishwat yeah its not a big issue here. No huge Rohingya expat community in the U.K to raise awareness nor is there any strategic importance of Burma so it will always be back page news unless u get concentration camps or something being built in Burma.
 
From what I read the latest round of violence started when the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army attacked police posts in Northern Rakhine on Friday 25th August. Burmese troops and Buddhist mobs conducted raids in response.

Its leader is Ata Ullah, a Rohingya born in Pakistan who was raised in Saudi Arabia.

Militancy is a last resort to systematic discrimination, the Burmese authorities shouldn't be surprised when you back a community into a corner like they have done.
 
Nobel laureates warn Aung San Suu Kyi over 'ethnic cleansing' of Rohingya

More than a dozen fellow Nobel laureates have criticised Aung San Suu Kyi, Myanmar’s de facto leader, for a bloody military crackdown on minority Rohingya people, warning of a tragedy “amounting to ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity”.

The open letter to the UN security council from a group of 23 activists, including Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Malala Yousafzai, warned that the army offensive had killed of hundreds of people, including children, and left women raped, houses burned and many civilians arbitrarily arrested.

It was delivered as Bangladesh announced around 50,000 Rohingya Muslims have fled the violence across its border.

“Access for humanitarian aid organisations has been almost completely denied, creating an appalling humanitarian crisis in an area already extremely poor,” reads the letter, whose signatories include current and former political and business leaders and campaigners such as Yousafzai, the youngest winner of the Nobel peace prize.

“Some international experts have warned of the potential for genocide. It has all the hallmarks of recent past tragedies – Rwanda, Darfur, Bosnia, Kosovo,” the letter reads.

“If we fail to take action, people may starve to death if they are not killed with bullets.”

The government of predominantly Buddhist Myanmar says it is responding to several attacks carried out by Rohingya militants that killed nine police officers on 9 October.

But the signatories to the letter said the army’s response had been “grossly disproportionate”.

“It would be one thing to round up suspects, interrogate them and put them on trial,” the letter said. “It is quite another to unleash helicopter gunships on thousands of ordinary civilians and to rape women and throw babies into a fire.”

The Rohingya are a minority of about a million people who, despite living in the country for generations, are treated as illegal immigrants and denied citizenship. They have been persecuted for years by the government and nationalist Buddhists.

The recent bloodshed is the most deadly since hundreds were killed in clashes in 2012 and more than 100,000 were forced into squalid camps.

An Amnesty International report this month, based on extensive interviews with Rohingya as well as analysis of satellite imagery, claimed that actions by Myanmar’s military may constitute crimes against humanity.

Aung San Suu Kyi, who spent much of the past two decades under house arrest and was awarded the 1991 Nobel peace prize, won elections last November, ending decades of junta rule.

But the Myanmar armed forces, or Tatmadaw, retain significant power in Myanmar. Under the army-drafted constitution, the military controls the three most powerful government ministries: home, defence and border affairs.

Aung San Suu Kyi is foreign minister and state counsellor, as the law bars her from the presidency, which is held by her close aide Htin Kyaw. However, she is widely considered the country’s de facto leader.

The open letter said that “despite repeated appeals to Daw Aung San Suu Kyi we are frustrated that she has not taken any initiative to ensure full and equal citizenship rights of the Rohingyas. Daw Suu Kyi is the leader and is the one with the primary responsibility to lead, and lead with courage, humanity and compassion.”

Nobel peace laureates who signed the letter include Jose Ramos-Horta, former president of East Timor, and Yemeni opposition activist Tawakul Karman. It was also signed by former prime minister of Italy Romano Prodi and British business leader Sir Richard Branson.

Bangladesh has stepped up patrols to try to stop refugees crossing the border during the last three months, and its foreign ministry had summoned Myanmar’s ambassador to express “deep concern at the continued influx”.

“Around 50,000 Myanmar citizens took shelter into Bangladesh since 9 October 2016,” the foreign ministry said in a statement on Thursday.

A spokesman for the United Nations high commissioner for refugees told AFP that at least 43,000 Rohingya have taken shelter in Bangladesh since October.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...es-aung-san-suu-kyi-ethnic-cleansing-rohingya
 
Erdoğan accuses Myanmar of ‘genocide’ as thousands of Rohingya flee to Bangladesh

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has accused Myanmar of “genocide” against the Rohingya Muslim minority, who have fled in the tens of thousands across the border into Bangladesh to escape ethnic violence.

“There is a genocide there,” Erdoğan said in a speech in Istanbul during the Islamic Eid al-Adha feast, which commemorates Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice his son.

“Those who close their eyes to this genocide perpetuated under the cover of democracy are its collaborators.”

Almost 400 people have died in violence in the north-western Rakhine state that Myanmar’s military said was triggered by attacks on security forces by insurgents from the Rohingya ethnic minority.

The army’s statement said there had been 90 armed clashes, including an initial 30 attacks by insurgents on 25 August, making the combat more extensive than previously announced. The army, responding to the attacks, launched what it called clearance operations against the insurgents.

Advocates for the Rohingya say security forces and vigilantes attacked and burned villages, shooting civilians and causing others to flee. Hundreds of civilians were killed, they say, posting photos, videos and details on social media as evidence.

Such reports have further amplified tensions, raising fears that communal violence in Rakhine is spinning out of control .

To escape the violence, about 20,000 Rohingya have massed along the Bangladeshi frontier, barred from entering the south Asian country, while scores of desperate people have drowned attempting to cross the Naf, a border river, in makeshift boats.

Erdoğan said he would bring up the issue at the next UN general assembly in New York later this month, adding that he had already talked to the UN secretary general, Antonio Guterres, as well as other Muslim leaders.

According to the state-run Anadolu news agency, the Turkish foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu told Bangladeshi authorities to “open your doors”, adding Turkey would cover the costs associated with letting in more Rohingya.

Bangladesh already hosts 400,000 Rohingya and has said it does not want more.

“We have called upon the Organization of Islamic Cooperation,” Cavusoglu said. “We will organise a summit this year [on the issue] … we have to find a definitive solution to this problem.”

The UN security council met behind closed doors on Wednesday to discuss the violence but there was no formal statement.

On Friday Guterres said he was “deeply concerned” by the situation in Myanmar and called for “restraint and calm to avoid a humanitarian catastrophe”.

The Rohingya are subject to harsh treatment in Myanmar, where the community of roughly one million people are accused of being illegal immigrants from Bangladesh.

Longstanding tension between the Rohingya Muslims and Buddhists erupted in bloody rioting in 2012, forcing more than 100,000 Rohingya into displacement camps, where many still live.

As the refugees poured across the border into Bangladesh, a police official in Cox Bazar’s Teknaf area said 21 bodies of Rohingya were found floating in the Naf River. Mohammed Mohiuddin Khan said two of them had bullet wounds.

On Thursday, three boats with refugees capsized, killing at least 26, including women and children, police said.

“The government has to stop this offensive,” said Phil Robertson, deputy Asia director for Human Rights Watch. “It has to allow humanitarian assistance and let journalists into this area. We have to actually see what’s happened because quite clearly human rights violations have taken place.”

He said it was possible that violations had occurred on both sides.

The UN special rapporteur on the human rights situation in Myanmar, Yanghee Lee, expressed concern “that many thousands of people are increasingly at risk of grave violations of their human rights.”

The UN secretary general also urged restraint by Myanmar security forces, a spokesperson said in a statement. “The current situation underlines the urgency of seeking holistic approaches to addressing the complex root causes of violence,” Eri Kaneko said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/02/erdogan-accuses-myanmar-of-genocide-against-rohingya
 
Malala condemns suffering of Rohingya Muslims

As violence against Rohingya Muslims continues in Myanmar, international organisations and countries have condemned Nobel Laureate and Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi for letting the atrocities continue.

Pakistan’s Nobel Laureate and female education activist Malala Yousufzai has also come out in support of the Rohingya Muslim community saying her “heart breaks” at their suffering.

Calling for a stop to the violence, Malala said she has seen “pictures of small children killed by Myanmar’s security forces.” Even though these children attacked no one, their houses were burnt to the ground, she added.

Malala also called upon Myanmar to give citizenship to Rohingya Muslims because it is the country they were born in. “If their home is not Myanmar, where they have lived for generations, then where is it?”

She also called upon other countries to aid Rohingya Muslims by giving those fleeing the violence access to food, shelter and education. “Other countries, including my own country Pakistan, should follow Bangladesh’s example”, she said.

“Over the last several years, I have repeatedly condemned this tragic and shameful treatment. I am still waiting for my fellow Nobel Laureate Aang San Suu Kyi to do the same. The world is waiting and the Rohingya Muslims are waiting,” she concluded.

On September 3, Pakistan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs also expressed its concerns over reports of the increasing number of deaths and forced displacement of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar and urged its government to take action to ensure their safety.

Violence erupted in Myanmar’s Rakhine state on August 25 when the country’s security forces launched an operation against the Rohingya Muslim community. It triggered a fresh influx of refugees towards the neighbouring Bangladesh, though the country sealed off its border to refugees.

More than 2,600 houses have been burned down in Rohingya-majority areas of Myanmar’s northwest in the last week and about 58,600 Rohingya have fled into neighbouring Bangladesh from Myanmar, according to UN refugee agency UNHCR.

According to media reports, Myanmar security forces used disproportionate force, displacing thousands of Rohingya villagers and destroying their homes with mortars and machine guns. The region has seen simmering tension between its Buddhist and Muslim populations since communal violence broke out in 2012.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1497679/malala-condemns-suffering-rohingya-muslims/
 
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Surprise surprise...

India provided logistics support and pakistan supplied arms and ammunitions for Sri lankan army when they were committing similar type of atrocities in tamil majority areas [MENTION=143248]Specialisttailender[/MENTION]
 
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Thanks for the comparison, though I'm not sure if you are trying to justify or condemn Israel's arming and training of these genocidal maniacs.

Like I said, their cooperation is hardly a surprise since Israel and Myanmar are birds of a feather.
 
Thanks for the comparison, though I'm not sure if you are trying to justify or condemn Israel's arming and training of these genocidal maniacs.

Like I said, their cooperation is hardly a surprise since Israel and Myanmar are birds of a feather.

Just pointing out selective criticism and holier than thou attitude, since the news source is middle eastern i should have mentioned their role in supporting genocidal groups.
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4852092/The-leader-s-turning-blind-eye-genocide.html

During a visit to Britain earlier this year, Aung San Suu Kyi, the leader of Myanmar — formerly known as Burma — was given a hero’s welcome. After being met by the Queen and Prince William at Buckingham Palace, she travelled to the Guildhall to be given the Freedom of the City of London.

And in so many ways, Aung San Suu Kyi, who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1991 in recognition of her lifelong battle for freedom, deserves all the acclaim.

The 72-year-old, whose late husband Michael Aris, a renowned Oxford historian, was a British citizen, is a truly extraordinary woman. After attending St Hugh’s College, Oxford (where Theresa May was also a student), she returned to her native Myanmar to join the noble struggle to end military rule.

The former British colony obtained independence in 1947 — largely thanks to the leadership of Suu Kyi’s father Aung San, an army general, who was assassinated by jealous rivals that year. However, in 1962, the country fell under the control of a brutal military dictatorship.

Following the footsteps of her father, Suu Kyi displayed remarkable courage and made personal sacrifices in her fight for freedom. She was held under house arrest by the regime for 15 years. The generals made plain that she would only be released if she promised to leave the country never to return.

She refused, even though her husband and two young sons were in Britain.

This decision earned her the respect and affection of her people — and carried her to a famous victory when Myanmar at last held free elections two years ago.

Suu Kyi is now State Counsellor — in effect prime minister — and the gleaming symbol of her country’s emancipation from an evil and destructive dictatorship. Since then, she has significant achievements to her credit.

Political prisoners have been released from jail and her country is making rapid economic strides forward. She’s been lionised by politicians across the world — Hillary Clinton honouring ‘this extraordinary woman’ and Harriet Harman speaking of her own ‘utmost admiration’.

There is, however, a dark and troubling side to the story of Suu Kyi.

Her government is complicit in the military-led persecution of Myanmar’s minority Muslim population (the country’s dominant religion is Buddhism) which is as ugly as anything carried out during the days of junta rule.

Huge numbers of Muslims have been subject to a systematic programme of rape, murder, starvation and intimidation that began last autumn.

Over the past several months, more than 120,000 have been driven from their homes following a campaign of violence. Hundreds have been killed, with one human rights charity publishing chilling eyewitness accounts of people being beheaded or even burned alive in bamboo cages by security services.

There are many reported cases of gang-rape, normally carried out by soldiers from the country’s powerful, self-ruling army in their easily recognisable green uniforms.

At least 70,000 have fled to neighbouring Bangladesh (where, sadly, they are treated almost as abominably).

Matters have worsened in recent days with more deaths as Muslim insurgents, armed with machetes and rifles, have fought security forces.

In February, a harrowing United Nations report documented some of these crimes. It said army attacks were ‘widespread as well as systematic’. UN inspectors warned of the ‘very likely commission of crimes against humanity’. They recorded violent attacks on a horrifying scale.

One survivor told how soldiers ‘beat and killed’ her husband with a knife. She said: ‘Five of them took off my clothes and raped me. My eight-month-old son was crying of hunger when they were in my house because he wanted to breastfeed, so to silence him they killed him with a knife.’

The inspectors recorded many more assaults. They interviewed 101 Muslim women. More than half told that they had been raped or were the victims of other kinds of sexual violence committed by government security forces.

The UN inspectors suggested that the scale of sexual attacks may be even greater because women feel ashamed and are reluctant to speak about their experiences.

Tellingly, the UN team had to travel to nearby Bangladesh to extract these heartbreaking stories from refugees, who had fled across the border for safety.

While the violence peaked, Suu Kyi’s government did little to break the army’s near-total silencing of independent witnesses.

And how did Suu Kyi, that celebrated Nobel Prize winner who got the award for her ‘non-violent struggle for democracy and human rights’ respond to this horrifying testimony? Sad to state, with outright denial.

Her government presented photographs of one woman who, it had been said, had been raped by soldiers and headed them with a graphic containing the words: ‘FAKE RAPE.’

The Foreign Ministry also rubbished what it called ‘made up stories, blown out of proportion’.

Suu Kyi, it is said, has made no proper attempt to establish the truth about the attacks, appointing a retired general to investigate alleged army atrocities. The resulting interim report, published earlier this year, was a shameful whitewash.

Meanwhile, she tells the world — especially those on the Left who remain in thrall to her — that there’s nothing to worry about.
Earlier this year, she told BBC interviewer Fergal Keane that there was no ethnic cleansing — despite compelling evidence to the contrary — adding that the army was ‘not free to pillage and torture’.

So what is the truth?

I travelled to Sittwe, the capital of Rakhine province. At first sight it is a blissful, picture-postcard city, boasting long, idyllic beaches. In the town centre I watched elegant women wearing sarongs and holding umbrellas against the sun, stroll down streets, while vendors sell their fruit outside busy tea shops.

But just a short walk away was the central mosque. Though this elegant old building was still standing, it had been gutted in an arson attack. Sittwe has been ethnically cleansed of its Muslim population.

Just five years ago, an estimated 50,000 of the city’s population of around 180,000 were members of the local Rohingya Muslim ethnic group. Today, there are fewer than 3,000 left. And they are not free to walk the streets. They are crammed into a tiny ghetto surrounded by barbed wire. Armed guards prevent visitors from entering — and will not allow the Rohingya Muslims to leave.
The Information Ministry denied me permission to enter, so I spoke by phone to ghetto inmates. They live in fear and terror and only talked on condition of anonymity.

One man told me: ‘Life used to be good to us. We had freedom of movement, we could go to school, our children had the chance to go to university. We could do business at downtown big market. No difficulties.’

It is totally different today. ‘It is like being a prisoner. There is no free movement. Not enough education, no proper healthcare. All these things are making life hopeless.’

But at least the ‘prisoners’ in the Sittwe ghetto live in their homes. The vast majority of fellow Muslims have been driven from their homes by armed mobs and now live in improvised camps.

The situation of these Rohingya is shocking. Before the 2015 elections, they were stripped of the right to vote, while punitive new laws even target their right to have children.

Most sinister is the Population Control Healthcare Bill, approved by the country’s parliament two years ago. This legislates that women in some parts of Burma must wait three years before having another child. There’s little doubt this cruel law is aimed at stalling population growth among Rohingyas.

Many Buddhists say the Rohingya have no right to live in the country because they are actually Bengali migrants who entered during British rule, meaning their real home should be Bangladesh.

However, this is disputed by scholars, who say they lived here before the British arrived. The Rohingya do look different and have a different language, customs and, of course, religion to the rest of the country. This makes them easier to pick on at a time of acute social and economic tension.

Measures such as the Population Control Healthcare Bill have led some observers to talk of genocide.

Two years ago, a Yale University report found evidence ‘that genocidal acts have been committed against Rohingya’.
Most analysts dismiss such talk. But there’s no question that the Muslims in western Myanmar live in conditions that recall the very worst of South African apartheid.

It cannot be stated too strongly that Aung San Suu Kyi has held power in Myanmar for barely a year and cannot be blamed for the desperate plight already facing the Rohingya before she came to power.

Trouble dates back to 2012 when — after a Muslim was blamed for the rape of a Buddhist woman — armed mobs surged through Sittwe and nearby villages, driving the Rohingya from their homes, killing hundreds and forcing survivors to live in camps. The charge against Suu Kyi is that she has not done enough to remedy the situation. And that she then stood by when a fresh wave of violence started last October.

These assaults began after an armed gang of allegedly Rohingya insurgents attacked guards along the Myanmar border with Bangladesh, killing nine police.

The military response was beyond all proportion, with more than 90,000 Muslims driven from their homes in a murderous campaign of rape and intimidation.

To be fair to Suu Kyi, she has no control of the military. Furthermore, she faces a desperately hard task bringing this deeply backward former British colony out of dictatorship and into democracy.

Myanmar is racked with problems of which the plight of the Rohingya is only one. Nevertheless, her denials that the army has committed abuses makes her complicit in the tragedy.

Increasingly, she is criticised by global figures. Pope Francis recently condemned ‘the persecution of our Rohingya brothers’ and called on ‘men and women of good faith to help them and ensure their full rights’.

Her fellow Nobel Peace Prize winner, Malala Yousafzai, 20, has called on Suu Kyi to condemn the ‘tragic and shameful’ treatment of the Myanmar’s Rohingya.

Life is getting harder here for the Rohingya and I was met with constant bureaucratic obstruction in my attempts to access the camps.
Eventually, I was able to get inside one camp. Conditions were not too bad.

The inhabitants had enough food to eat and their accommodation — dimly lit, makeshift huts — was bearable, though leaving them dangerously vulnerable to the cyclones that frequently roar in from the sea (most of the camps are on the coast). Yet it was the hopelessness that hit me hardest. There were no jobs. There were no prospects for young people, and nothing for them to do.
It dawned on me that so many of the Rohingya have, in effect, been confined to closely guarded and monitored prison camps.
All the inhabitants had been there since being driven from their homes five years ago. It’s possible they will be resettled somewhere else in the future, but there is no prospect they will ever return home.

One man, who used to be a fisherman, told me: ‘I am in prison.’ He described how his every move was monitored by the police.
He told me that he and his fellow Rohingya had supported Suu Kyi when she stood for election in 2015. He said: ‘We have been stripped of the vote. But if I could have voted, I would have voted for her. I prayed for the lady to win the 2015 election. She got a Nobel Peace Prize.’

The Rohingya people were loyal allies of Britain in World War II. Now they face their darkest hour. Britain and other nations must do more to help one of the most forsaken peoples of the world

Now he is heartbroken. ‘She is the plaything of the army government. If the army says jump, she jumps. She will not use any words against the army.’

Britain continues to support Suu Kyi, as her recent reception at Buckingham Palace shows.

What a hideous betrayal of all we profess to stand for and believe.

During World War II, British forces fought one of our most desperate battles of the conflict in Burma, against the Japanese.

Many Burmese — including Suu Kyi’s war hero father — fought us alongside the Japanese. But not the Rohingya Muslims, who, for the most part, remained loyal to Britain. In view of this, I asked if there were any survivors from that heroic episode.

I was taken by my guides along narrow walkways to a small, dark hut, where I was introduced to a 93-year-old man with a straggly, white beard. He was almost completely blind with deep cataracts.

He told me how he had been a baggage carrier for British soldiers. ‘We gave the British food. We brought them goats and chickens. I helped the British build roads and bridges.’ After the war, he said, he had made a living as a farmer — until five years ago when he was driven from his home by violent mobs. ‘I lost my crops. My buffalo. Everything.’

Tears rolling down his cheeks, he told me: ‘My life is already destroyed. But I implore you, please rescue our new generation. This government is killing our new generation.’

Several months ago, at the height of the latest violence against the Rohingya, Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson visited Myanmar.
At the time, he did not say a single word of public criticism against the atrocities being carried out by the Myanmar military against the Rohingya, though he may have done so in private, and has in recent days warned that their treatment is ‘besmirching’ the country’s reputation.

The Rohingya people were loyal allies of Britain in World War II. Now they face their darkest hour. Britain and other nations must do more to help one of the most forsaken peoples of the world.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...turning-blind-eye-genocide.html#ixzz4rn84DOdE
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Israel arming Myanmar amid ongoing Rohingya crackdown <a href="https://t.co/Jz11oYTUAf">https://t.co/Jz11oYTUAf</a> <a href="https://t.co/j3p9wO1Jkz">pic.twitter.com/j3p9wO1Jkz</a></p>— Middle East Eye (@MiddleEastEye) <a href="https://twitter.com/MiddleEastEye/status/904734288255619072">September 4, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Pakistan is selling Jf 17 Thunder to Myanmar.Everyone has their national and commercial interest.Thats how the wirld works.
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4852092/The-leader-s-turning-blind-eye-genocide.html

During a visit to Britain earlier this year, Aung San Suu Kyi, the leader of Myanmar — formerly known as Burma — was given a hero’s welcome. After being met by the Queen and Prince William at Buckingham Palace, she travelled to the Guildhall to be given the Freedom of the City of London.

And in so many ways, Aung San Suu Kyi, who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1991 in recognition of her lifelong battle for freedom, deserves all the acclaim.

The 72-year-old, whose late husband Michael Aris, a renowned Oxford historian, was a British citizen, is a truly extraordinary woman. After attending St Hugh’s College, Oxford (where Theresa May was also a student), she returned to her native Myanmar to join the noble struggle to end military rule.

The former British colony obtained independence in 1947 — largely thanks to the leadership of Suu Kyi’s father Aung San, an army general, who was assassinated by jealous rivals that year. However, in 1962, the country fell under the control of a brutal military dictatorship.

Following the footsteps of her father, Suu Kyi displayed remarkable courage and made personal sacrifices in her fight for freedom. She was held under house arrest by the regime for 15 years. The generals made plain that she would only be released if she promised to leave the country never to return.

She refused, even though her husband and two young sons were in Britain.

This decision earned her the respect and affection of her people — and carried her to a famous victory when Myanmar at last held free elections two years ago.

Suu Kyi is now State Counsellor — in effect prime minister — and the gleaming symbol of her country’s emancipation from an evil and destructive dictatorship. Since then, she has significant achievements to her credit.

Political prisoners have been released from jail and her country is making rapid economic strides forward. She’s been lionised by politicians across the world — Hillary Clinton honouring ‘this extraordinary woman’ and Harriet Harman speaking of her own ‘utmost admiration’.

There is, however, a dark and troubling side to the story of Suu Kyi.

Her government is complicit in the military-led persecution of Myanmar’s minority Muslim population (the country’s dominant religion is Buddhism) which is as ugly as anything carried out during the days of junta rule.

Huge numbers of Muslims have been subject to a systematic programme of rape, murder, starvation and intimidation that began last autumn.

Over the past several months, more than 120,000 have been driven from their homes following a campaign of violence. Hundreds have been killed, with one human rights charity publishing chilling eyewitness accounts of people being beheaded or even burned alive in bamboo cages by security services.

There are many reported cases of gang-rape, normally carried out by soldiers from the country’s powerful, self-ruling army in their easily recognisable green uniforms.

At least 70,000 have fled to neighbouring Bangladesh (where, sadly, they are treated almost as abominably).

Matters have worsened in recent days with more deaths as Muslim insurgents, armed with machetes and rifles, have fought security forces.

In February, a harrowing United Nations report documented some of these crimes. It said army attacks were ‘widespread as well as systematic’. UN inspectors warned of the ‘very likely commission of crimes against humanity’. They recorded violent attacks on a horrifying scale.

One survivor told how soldiers ‘beat and killed’ her husband with a knife. She said: ‘Five of them took off my clothes and raped me. My eight-month-old son was crying of hunger when they were in my house because he wanted to breastfeed, so to silence him they killed him with a knife.’

The inspectors recorded many more assaults. They interviewed 101 Muslim women. More than half told that they had been raped or were the victims of other kinds of sexual violence committed by government security forces.

The UN inspectors suggested that the scale of sexual attacks may be even greater because women feel ashamed and are reluctant to speak about their experiences.

Tellingly, the UN team had to travel to nearby Bangladesh to extract these heartbreaking stories from refugees, who had fled across the border for safety.

While the violence peaked, Suu Kyi’s government did little to break the army’s near-total silencing of independent witnesses.

And how did Suu Kyi, that celebrated Nobel Prize winner who got the award for her ‘non-violent struggle for democracy and human rights’ respond to this horrifying testimony? Sad to state, with outright denial.

Her government presented photographs of one woman who, it had been said, had been raped by soldiers and headed them with a graphic containing the words: ‘FAKE RAPE.’

The Foreign Ministry also rubbished what it called ‘made up stories, blown out of proportion’.

Suu Kyi, it is said, has made no proper attempt to establish the truth about the attacks, appointing a retired general to investigate alleged army atrocities. The resulting interim report, published earlier this year, was a shameful whitewash.

Meanwhile, she tells the world — especially those on the Left who remain in thrall to her — that there’s nothing to worry about.
Earlier this year, she told BBC interviewer Fergal Keane that there was no ethnic cleansing — despite compelling evidence to the contrary — adding that the army was ‘not free to pillage and torture’.

So what is the truth?

I travelled to Sittwe, the capital of Rakhine province. At first sight it is a blissful, picture-postcard city, boasting long, idyllic beaches. In the town centre I watched elegant women wearing sarongs and holding umbrellas against the sun, stroll down streets, while vendors sell their fruit outside busy tea shops.

But just a short walk away was the central mosque. Though this elegant old building was still standing, it had been gutted in an arson attack. Sittwe has been ethnically cleansed of its Muslim population.

Just five years ago, an estimated 50,000 of the city’s population of around 180,000 were members of the local Rohingya Muslim ethnic group. Today, there are fewer than 3,000 left. And they are not free to walk the streets. They are crammed into a tiny ghetto surrounded by barbed wire. Armed guards prevent visitors from entering — and will not allow the Rohingya Muslims to leave.
The Information Ministry denied me permission to enter, so I spoke by phone to ghetto inmates. They live in fear and terror and only talked on condition of anonymity.

One man told me: ‘Life used to be good to us. We had freedom of movement, we could go to school, our children had the chance to go to university. We could do business at downtown big market. No difficulties.’

It is totally different today. ‘It is like being a prisoner. There is no free movement. Not enough education, no proper healthcare. All these things are making life hopeless.’

But at least the ‘prisoners’ in the Sittwe ghetto live in their homes. The vast majority of fellow Muslims have been driven from their homes by armed mobs and now live in improvised camps.

The situation of these Rohingya is shocking. Before the 2015 elections, they were stripped of the right to vote, while punitive new laws even target their right to have children.

Most sinister is the Population Control Healthcare Bill, approved by the country’s parliament two years ago. This legislates that women in some parts of Burma must wait three years before having another child. There’s little doubt this cruel law is aimed at stalling population growth among Rohingyas.

Many Buddhists say the Rohingya have no right to live in the country because they are actually Bengali migrants who entered during British rule, meaning their real home should be Bangladesh.

However, this is disputed by scholars, who say they lived here before the British arrived. The Rohingya do look different and have a different language, customs and, of course, religion to the rest of the country. This makes them easier to pick on at a time of acute social and economic tension.

Measures such as the Population Control Healthcare Bill have led some observers to talk of genocide.

Two years ago, a Yale University report found evidence ‘that genocidal acts have been committed against Rohingya’.
Most analysts dismiss such talk. But there’s no question that the Muslims in western Myanmar live in conditions that recall the very worst of South African apartheid.

It cannot be stated too strongly that Aung San Suu Kyi has held power in Myanmar for barely a year and cannot be blamed for the desperate plight already facing the Rohingya before she came to power.

Trouble dates back to 2012 when — after a Muslim was blamed for the rape of a Buddhist woman — armed mobs surged through Sittwe and nearby villages, driving the Rohingya from their homes, killing hundreds and forcing survivors to live in camps. The charge against Suu Kyi is that she has not done enough to remedy the situation. And that she then stood by when a fresh wave of violence started last October.

These assaults began after an armed gang of allegedly Rohingya insurgents attacked guards along the Myanmar border with Bangladesh, killing nine police.

The military response was beyond all proportion, with more than 90,000 Muslims driven from their homes in a murderous campaign of rape and intimidation.

To be fair to Suu Kyi, she has no control of the military. Furthermore, she faces a desperately hard task bringing this deeply backward former British colony out of dictatorship and into democracy.

Myanmar is racked with problems of which the plight of the Rohingya is only one. Nevertheless, her denials that the army has committed abuses makes her complicit in the tragedy.

Increasingly, she is criticised by global figures. Pope Francis recently condemned ‘the persecution of our Rohingya brothers’ and called on ‘men and women of good faith to help them and ensure their full rights’.

Her fellow Nobel Peace Prize winner, Malala Yousafzai, 20, has called on Suu Kyi to condemn the ‘tragic and shameful’ treatment of the Myanmar’s Rohingya.

Life is getting harder here for the Rohingya and I was met with constant bureaucratic obstruction in my attempts to access the camps.
Eventually, I was able to get inside one camp. Conditions were not too bad.

The inhabitants had enough food to eat and their accommodation — dimly lit, makeshift huts — was bearable, though leaving them dangerously vulnerable to the cyclones that frequently roar in from the sea (most of the camps are on the coast). Yet it was the hopelessness that hit me hardest. There were no jobs. There were no prospects for young people, and nothing for them to do.
It dawned on me that so many of the Rohingya have, in effect, been confined to closely guarded and monitored prison camps.
All the inhabitants had been there since being driven from their homes five years ago. It’s possible they will be resettled somewhere else in the future, but there is no prospect they will ever return home.

One man, who used to be a fisherman, told me: ‘I am in prison.’ He described how his every move was monitored by the police.
He told me that he and his fellow Rohingya had supported Suu Kyi when she stood for election in 2015. He said: ‘We have been stripped of the vote. But if I could have voted, I would have voted for her. I prayed for the lady to win the 2015 election. She got a Nobel Peace Prize.’

The Rohingya people were loyal allies of Britain in World War II. Now they face their darkest hour. Britain and other nations must do more to help one of the most forsaken peoples of the world

Now he is heartbroken. ‘She is the plaything of the army government. If the army says jump, she jumps. She will not use any words against the army.’

Britain continues to support Suu Kyi, as her recent reception at Buckingham Palace shows.

What a hideous betrayal of all we profess to stand for and believe.

During World War II, British forces fought one of our most desperate battles of the conflict in Burma, against the Japanese.

Many Burmese — including Suu Kyi’s war hero father — fought us alongside the Japanese. But not the Rohingya Muslims, who, for the most part, remained loyal to Britain. In view of this, I asked if there were any survivors from that heroic episode.

I was taken by my guides along narrow walkways to a small, dark hut, where I was introduced to a 93-year-old man with a straggly, white beard. He was almost completely blind with deep cataracts.

He told me how he had been a baggage carrier for British soldiers. ‘We gave the British food. We brought them goats and chickens. I helped the British build roads and bridges.’ After the war, he said, he had made a living as a farmer — until five years ago when he was driven from his home by violent mobs. ‘I lost my crops. My buffalo. Everything.’

Tears rolling down his cheeks, he told me: ‘My life is already destroyed. But I implore you, please rescue our new generation. This government is killing our new generation.’

Several months ago, at the height of the latest violence against the Rohingya, Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson visited Myanmar.
At the time, he did not say a single word of public criticism against the atrocities being carried out by the Myanmar military against the Rohingya, though he may have done so in private, and has in recent days warned that their treatment is ‘besmirching’ the country’s reputation.

The Rohingya people were loyal allies of Britain in World War II. Now they face their darkest hour. Britain and other nations must do more to help one of the most forsaken peoples of the world.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...turning-blind-eye-genocide.html#ixzz4rn84DOdE


This is atrocious makes your blood boil.. These people are savages I hope someone teaches them a lesson for their crimes in this lifetime..
 
How come this bloodthirsty Suu Kyi isn't soundly condemned around the world like Assad is? Perks of being a Nobel Laureate?
 
Ofcourse what's happening is despicable but Pakistanis love for wanting to solve the problems of wider Muslim world whereas letting their own bigger and more immediate issues take a backseat always confounds me

Also.. Why didn't we ever see such massive support and demonstrations for actual Pakistanis stranded in Bangladesh for four decades now?!?
 
Didn't know this, shouldn't make a difference but hopefully some voices in governing Conservative Party speaking out is good

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rohingya?src=hash">#Rohingya</a> were our WW2 allies. Why aren't we more moved by their plight? Is it religious bias, or something else?<a href="https://t.co/NvlDJqdbq4">https://t.co/NvlDJqdbq4</a></p>— Daniel Hannan (@DanielJHannan) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/status/905133512130514944">5 September 2017</a></blockquote>
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Looks like Burmese people do not want even a single Muslim in their country.

How are Burmese treating Hindus, Christians, Sikhs etc? Are they not welcome too? Or is it only reserved to Muslims?
 
Do these courts even have jurisdiction?

I remember few years ago there were some American Pakistanis had petition on change.org to change so called 'discriminatory rules' adopted by Indian embassy for issuing visas.

5 years down the road, rules only got more harder :afridi1
So no, it doesnt have any jurisdiction over any country at least not in case with India.

On topic: Rohingyas muslim are facing serious hardship, sadly even the neighbouring countries have their own problems which will make it harder for them(Rohingyas) to find shelter in those countries.
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] you mentioned in of thread that Indian govt will deport some of registered and unregistered refugees. So, do refugees who made it into India, get social assistance from GoI like food and clothing? Employment? Healthcare?
I know we already have millions of people below poverty line, dont think we can afford any refugees
 
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Looks like Burmese people do not want even a single Muslim in their country.

How are Burmese treating Hindus, Christians, Sikhs etc? Are they not welcome too? Or is it only reserved to Muslims?

I read somewhere they are also prosecuting Hindus/Christians.
 
Looks like Burmese people do not want even a single Muslim in their country.

How are Burmese treating Hindus, Christians, Sikhs etc? Are they not welcome too? Or is it only reserved to Muslims?

This should give you a fair idea.

 
I remember few years ago there were some American Pakistanis had petition on change.org to change so called 'discriminatory rules' adopted by Indian embassy for issuing visas.

5 years down the road, rules only got more harder :afridi1
So no, it doesnt have any jurisdiction over any country at least not in case with India.

On topic: Rohingyas muslim are facing serious hardship, sadly even the neighbouring countries have their own problems which will make it harder for them(Rohingyas) to find shelter in those countries.
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] you mentioned in of thread that Indian govt will deport some of registered and unregistered refugees. So, do refugees who made it into India, get social assistance from GoI like food and clothing? Employment? Healthcare?
I know we already have millions of people below poverty line, dont think we can afford any refugees

They are squatting on govt land and staying in camps operated by the govt using tax payers money.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">120,000 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rohingya?src=hash">#Rohingya</a> refugees flee, children beheaded, civilians burnt alive, yet our hypocritical govt chooses denial and no condemnation. <a href="https://t.co/hfBGJlQNZ5">pic.twitter.com/hfBGJlQNZ5</a></p>— Yasmin Qureshi (@YasminQureshiMP) <a href="https://twitter.com/YasminQureshiMP/status/905095907275886594">September 5, 2017</a></blockquote>
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India provided logistics support and pakistan supplied arms and ammunitions for Sri lankan army when they were committing similar type of atrocities in tamil majority areas [MENTION=143248]Specialisttailender[/MENTION]

Ya we know that. People in my state are still ****** off at that. P.S Anti-Modi/Central atmosphere going on back home in Tamil nadu. You can google it .
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My open letter to UN SG asking him to act on Rohingya Muslims' plight. <a href="https://t.co/fqkNL03LWp">pic.twitter.com/fqkNL03LWp</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/906108688372563968">September 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Rohingya crisis: Exodus swells 'as 270,000 flee Myanmar'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41194011.

Seems like an increasingly desperate situation. Idk how a country like Bangladesh will be able to absorb 250,000 people in such a short period of time.

The regional response to this has been pretty abject. everyone wants to play pass the parcel with the Rohingyas it seems.
 
I think it comes down to China. If they can apply suitable diplomatic pressure on Burma, this crisis can be solved.
 
I think it comes down to China. If they can apply suitable diplomatic pressure on Burma, this crisis can be solved.

Even i believe that only China has the capacity to stop this madness. However, its obvious they dont care. If they did, we would've seen some actions from them by now. Complete silence on the subject indicates that they have no interest in it and have totally ignored it.
Myanmar knows they have backing from China and maybe Russia which will veto any sanctions by UN.
 
Even i believe that only China has the capacity to stop this madness. However, its obvious they dont care. If they did, we would've seen some actions from them by now. Complete silence on the subject indicates that they have no interest in it and have totally ignored it.
Myanmar knows they have backing from China and maybe Russia which will veto any sanctions by UN.

I think China is reluctant to act to protect Muslim minorities given the issues it has with Muslims in Xianjiang. Actually I can't remember the last time China acted to protect any minority anywhere in the world unless there was a direct benefit for it.
 
I think China is reluctant to act to protect Muslim minorities given the issues it has with Muslims in Xianjiang. Actually I can't remember the last time China acted to protect any minority anywhere in the world unless there was a direct benefit for it.

I have a friend from Beijing here in Toronto and he is half muslim( his mom is muslim). He shared me stories about how it is difficult to be muslim in China and at times they arent even allowed to fast. He used to say that, Chinese govt sometimes act like God, they want their people to literally stop praying and believe only in Govt.

So, when China do not even care for their own minorities why would they care about minorities in neighbouring land. Rohingyas are seriously in a situation where they have no option but to fleed their homeland. Unfortunately for them, unlike Syrian refugees, world hasnt really embraced them with open arms.
 
Even i believe that only China has the capacity to stop this madness. However, its obvious they dont care. If they did, we would've seen some actions from them by now. Complete silence on the subject indicates that they have no interest in it and have totally ignored it.
Myanmar knows they have backing from China and maybe Russia which will veto any sanctions by UN.

This is the befuddling part - what does Myanmar gain from doing this to the Rohingyas? It's bad PR and bad for the social fabric of their populace, so in their eyes - what gains are there to be had, China or no China?
 
I have a friend from Beijing here in Toronto and he is half muslim( his mom is muslim). He shared me stories about how it is difficult to be muslim in China and at times they arent even allowed to fast. He used to say that, Chinese govt sometimes act like God, they want their people to literally stop praying and believe only in Govt.

That is true. The Communist rulers in China and East Asia, like those in the former Soviet Union, believe in absolute power. They will say nice things like "democracy" but will absolutely destroy any threat they see to their power. That is the nature of these regimes. Remember North Korea started out as a Communist regime too.

So, when China do not even care for their own minorities why would they care about minorities in neighbouring land. Rohingyas are seriously in a situation where they have no option but to fleed their homeland. Unfortunately for them, unlike Syrian refugees, world hasnt really embraced them with open arms.

Yes, once China takes action to help the Rohingyas, their own position becomes weather when then have to deal with unrest in Xianjiang. Therefore they will not do it.
 
This is the befuddling part - what does Myanmar gain from doing this to the Rohingyas? It's bad PR and bad for the social fabric of their populace, so in their eyes - what gains are there to be had, China or no China?

Being befuddled is the fate of the naive. There are hundreds of minorities the world over who are persecuted, and you are surprised at one instance?
 
Being befuddled is the fate of the naive. There are hundreds of minorities the world over who are persecuted, and you are surprised at one instance?

Yes, and my question once again is - what do the powers that be at Burma gain from these atrocities to the Rohingyas?
 
Yes, and my question once again is - what do the powers that be at Burma gain from these atrocities to the Rohingyas?
The Burmese Govt are using xenophobia and anti-Rohingya card to appease Buddhist nationalists, which has increased in number and influence recently since restoration of democracy, as they've done for decades.

The Rakhine Buddhists share the same religion as the majority Bamar ethnic group which dominates government and military. But they belong to a different ethnic group and accuse the Bamar of ignoring their grievances - Rakhine being the poorest province in Burma. Rakhines even agitated for separation in the past. Rohingyas have been scapegoated by both groups and labelled "illegal immigrants" as Buddhist nationalists want to create an ethnically pure Rakhine state.

There should be increased economic aid to Rakhine state to address these grievances, demobilisation of all armed groups (Buddhist militias/Rohingya insurgents) and a census conducted in Rakhine to filter between actual illegal migrants and those who've lived in Burma since birth with the latter given citizenship.
 
Most Bangladeshis have always taunted Pakistanis over Afghanistan and terror activities within our country related to it. Now let us see how they handle this one themselves! It is always easy to tell others what they should do when looking from the outside in. The Rohingya are ethnically Bengali's who wanted to become a part of then East Pakistan, now Bangladesh. If anything at all we only owe them empathy, moral and financial support, nothing else. Taking them in is out of question, ask your great Bengali brethren who are your neighbours as well to do that like we have the Afghani's.
 
I think it comes down to China. If they can apply suitable diplomatic pressure on Burma, this crisis can be solved.

LOL. Whats in it for the Chinese. The Chinese only know one thing and thats $$$.

This is the realistic best case scenario. The remaining 1+ million Rohingya flee Burma with the majority confined to refugee camps in Bangladesh for generations to come. A few hundred thousand lucky ones can perhaps make it to Indonesia, Malaysia, Gulf, or other countries and someone eke out a living.
 
Most Bangladeshis have always taunted Pakistanis over Afghanistan and terror activities within our country related to it. Now let us see how they handle this one themselves! It is always easy to tell others what they should do when looking from the outside in. The Rohingya are ethnically Bengali's who wanted to become a part of then East Pakistan, now Bangladesh. If anything at all we only owe them empathy, moral and financial support, nothing else. Taking them in is out of question, ask your great Bengali brethren who are your neighbours as well to do that like we have the Afghani's.

This isn't the first time Rohingyas have come to Bangladesh. We have had around 500,000 of them coming in ever since 1978.

And the Rohingya are not technically "ethnic Bengalis". Even Sylhetis and Chittagonians aren't really Bengali if we are going to be pedantic.
 
This isn't the first time Rohingyas have come to Bangladesh. We have had around 500,000 of them coming in ever since 1978.

And the Rohingya are not technically "ethnic Bengalis". Even Sylhetis and Chittagonians aren't really Bengali if we are going to be pedantic.

So you are happy to have more of them then? They do call themselves Bengali's for sure. You can call them whatever you want.
 
So you are happy to have more of them then? They do call themselves Bengali's for sure. You can call them whatever you want.

I don't mind where they go as long as they aren't being butchered.

But the Rohingya don't call themselves bengalis. Do the ones in Pakistan refer to themselves as Pakistanis?
But does it really matter anyway...if you are a Muslim, then we are all Bani Adam anyways.
 
I don't mind where they go as long as they aren't being butchered.

But the Rohingya don't call themselves bengalis. Do the ones in Pakistan refer to themselves as Pakistanis?
But does it really matter anyway...if you are a Muslim, then we are all Bani Adam anyways.

Yes the ones often call themselves Pakistanis now. Also, Pakistani is a nationality not a race. Bangladesh being a direct neighbour is obliged to help here.
 
Now we are adding up on conspiracy theorists who are saying Soros is setting up the thing against Myanmar and that the Rohingya attacks are just fake news.

And oh, Malala is a western stooge for speaking up for the Rohingyas
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Full statement on the ongoing ethnic cleansing of the Rohingya in Burma from <a href="https://twitter.com/PressSec">@PressSec</a> <a href="https://t.co/RhJWfKrtuS">pic.twitter.com/RhJWfKrtuS</a></p>— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/907328075121217537">September 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Barely a 'statement'.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Full statement on the ongoing ethnic cleansing of the Rohingya in Burma from <a href="https://twitter.com/PressSec">@PressSec</a> <a href="https://t.co/RhJWfKrtuS">pic.twitter.com/RhJWfKrtuS</a></p>— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/907328075121217537">September 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Barely a 'statement'.

Ethnic cleansing = "Ensuing violence" :salute
 
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