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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After BCB declined touring Pakistan.The Pakistan Cricket Board has returned the favour & decided not to tour Bangladesh this year <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/857307735012110337">April 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Good decision, not like it was a major tour anyways, only 3 ODIs. They should play a full series with us in the UAE first.
 
Yes because Bangladesh players lives are much less worth than that of players from western countries.

Bangladeshi players are obliged to risk their lives and your Pakistan but teams like England Australia SA need not. Intact no need to ask them even and allow these teams to play in the UAE but no not Bangladesh.

Oh please don't talk about how your team let us win the match in the 99 world cup. ICC wanted to induct Bangladesh in the test arena because of immense cricket crazy population. And if they really let us win stop talking about how it was a gift to Bangladesh and focus upon how corrupted your cricket team is.
 
understandable.

Australia also had a security threat there aswell. Pakistan well within its rights
 
Yes because Bangladesh players lives are much less worth than that of players from western countries.

Bangladeshi players are obliged to risk their lives and your Pakistan but teams like England Australia SA need not. Intact no need to ask them even and allow these teams to play in the UAE but no not Bangladesh.

Oh please don't talk about how your team let us win the match in the 99 world cup. ICC wanted to induct Bangladesh in the test arena because of immense cricket crazy population. And if they really let us win stop talking about how it was a gift to Bangladesh and focus upon how corrupted your cricket team is.
atleast our players have better salaries:faf
 
Pakistan can have bigger money tours to the UAE by Eng and Aus, SA and NZ too. Forget Bang. Let's be honest, without Pakistan, they wouldn't be where they are right now and without Pakistan, they have lost their only major meal ticket outside of India.

Now the PCB needs to organise some test cricket after the CT. What's the current schedule? They should look to get SA over for 3 tests, 3 ODIs, 3 t20s and round the year off with a smaller NZ series.
 
Good decision, not like it was a major tour anyways, only 3 ODIs. They should play a full series with us in the UAE first.

You think PCB will invite Bangladesh to tour UAE? They claim Bangladesh isn't an attractive team but Bangladesh currently are performing really well and not too far from Pakistan. And Bangladesh are a better side than west Indies and has bigger audience and sponsorship
 
Meaningless series in monsoon. Better that the tour has been called off

Should have a series in November
 
Extremely stupid decision , bangladesh didnt decline touring UAE. This will have dire repercussions in future for pakistan. These senile old men cant put a foot right,
 
Hopefully they have a better reason than the abject stupidity of national pride
 
Yes because Bangladesh players lives are much less worth than that of players from western countries.

Bangladeshi players are obliged to risk their lives and your Pakistan but teams like England Australia SA need not. Intact no need to ask them even and allow these teams to play in the UAE but no not Bangladesh.

Oh please don't talk about how your team let us win the match in the 99 world cup. ICC wanted to induct Bangladesh in the test arena because of immense cricket crazy population. And if they really let us win stop talking about how it was a gift to Bangladesh and focus upon how corrupted your cricket team is.

Every single persons live is of value. Doesnt matter who you are or where your from.

About not being safe in a certain place well let me tell you in 2017 things can happen anywhere as we have experienced.

This whole security thing is going overboard.
 
Hopefully they have a better reason than the abject stupidity of national pride

The reason of 'we can only invite them to Pakistan, not UAE' doesn't really work either.

Just invite them to UAE or wherever we plan to play our home games and be done with it, FGS. We need to play more international cricket, not less.
 
You think PCB will invite Bangladesh to tour UAE? They claim Bangladesh isn't an attractive team but Bangladesh currently are performing really well and not too far from Pakistan. And Bangladesh are a better side than west Indies and has bigger audience and sponsorship

ohh bhai, why cant you guys not understand.

Its not about performance.

Its about viewership. A home series rights will be on us. Pakistani fans don't watch Bangaldesh series as in our minds Bangladesh are still a minnow(i know in reality they are not) but thats the thought here...

It doesn't generate any ratings or viewership,

Thus, why should we set to make a loss here? Why not play matches with better teams which would generate us more profits

Bangldesh tour is only beneficial for us if they come play in Pakistan, as then it could be marketed with cricket returning to Pak, just like how we marketed that zimbabwe tour to Pakistan.

Bangladesh might have VERY BIG sponsors or audience, but thats in Bangladesh, but for us the HOST, that isn't very beneficial.
 
Yes because Bangladesh players lives are much less worth than that of players from western countries.

Bangladeshi players are obliged to risk their lives and your Pakistan but teams like England Australia SA need not. Intact no need to ask them even and allow these teams to play in the UAE but no not Bangladesh.

Oh please don't talk about how your team let us win the match in the 99 world cup. ICC wanted to induct Bangladesh in the test arena because of immense cricket crazy population. And if they really let us win stop talking about how it was a gift to Bangladesh and focus upon how corrupted your cricket team is.

Sorry mate your current government is too much anti Pakistan. I had always liked Bd but honestly speaking under current hostile conditions it's not possible. Wise decision by pcb
 
Pakistan prime minister Panama shareef must interrupt and put some sense into their minds.

We dont play india already , teams like nz , sa , england , australia and windies tour uae after a long time. Where are we heading?
 
The reason of 'we can only invite them to Pakistan, not UAE' doesn't really work either.

Just invite them to UAE or wherever we plan to play our home games and be done with it, FGS. We need to play more international cricket, not less.

yar the thing is, in UAE we have to give out fees in High rents and all.

And if the opposition isn't generating us enough money to even break even then whats the point?

If a tour to Pakistan happens, then the whole thing could be marketed in such a way that it would be beneficial for us.
 
As usual another poor decision by the PCB.

We already play less cricket compared to others and now they are only making it worse. Pathetic to the core!
 
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BDers you need to understand we are a titan of the sport and we have other bigger teams to play against. We are done bending backwards for a minnow.

Go arrange a series with Zimbabwe or something. Come play in Pak or you get nothing.
 
Bangladesh is becoming a very exciting team and have improved a lot. Pakistan should invite them in UAE. I would also like to see a 5 match ODI series between India and Bangladesh in India.
 
Wow..they really do look down on bangladeshis , why else would they take issue with BCB not touring pakistan when the rest of the world isn't !
 
yar the thing is, in UAE we have to give out fees in High rents and all.

And if the opposition isn't generating us enough money to even break even then whats the point?

If a tour to Pakistan happens, then the whole thing could be marketed in such a way that it would be beneficial for us.

If you can invite WI and SL to UAE, you can invite BD. There's hardly millions watching us play vs WI and SL.

This is all about trying to force BD to tour Pakistan.

Obviously a tour to Pakistan would be beneficial for us but forcing other boards to tour won't work.

Nevertheless, interested to see where this goes.
 
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Bangladesh is becoming a very exciting team and have improved a lot. Pakistan should invite them in UAE. I would also like to see a 5 match ODI series between India and Bangladesh in India.

In an ideal world bro all the asian teams would stick together and play regularly against each other. Most of life I have missed out on so many India-Pak matches. Have to wait 4 years for one match.

But this isn't an ideal world and BD do not get to pick and choose the terms. 3 of our home series we have played in BD and nothing back. Time to stop being so giving.
 
In an ideal world bro all the asian teams would stick together and play regularly against each other. Most of life I have missed out on so many India-Pak matches. Have to wait 4 years for one match.

But this isn't an ideal world and BD do not get to pick and choose the terms. 3 of our home series we have played in BD and nothing back. Time to stop being so giving.

part of that though is because we have refused to host them in UAE

I get it when the screwed us the first time, but i think we have to be more pragmatic now
 
Every single persons live is of value. Doesnt matter who you are or where your from.

About not being safe in a certain place well let me tell you in 2017 things can happen anywhere as we have experienced.

This whole security thing is going overboard.

True it's being overblown but I still think Pakistan isn't ready to host international cricket yet. Give it a few years

ohh bhai, why cant you guys not understand.

Its not about performance.

Its about viewership. A home series rights will be on us. Pakistani fans don't watch Bangaldesh series as in our minds Bangladesh are still a minnow(i know in reality they are not) but thats the thought here...

It doesn't generate any ratings or viewership,

Thus, why should we set to make a loss here? Why not play matches with better teams which would generate us more profits

Bangldesh tour is only beneficial for us if they come play in Pakistan, as then it could be marketed with cricket returning to Pak, just like how we marketed that zimbabwe tour to Pakistan.

Bangladesh might have VERY BIG sponsors or audience, but thats in Bangladesh, but for us the HOST, that isn't very beneficial.

Here is where you misunderstood me. Bangladeshi sponsors will pay PCB to advertise their companies. Billboards on the stadium. You get what I mean. Even Lanka series in Lanka had 50% sponsors from Bangladesh.

Sorry mate your current government is too much anti Pakistan. I had always liked Bd but honestly speaking under current hostile conditions it's not possible. Wise decision by pcb

But BCB is anything but anti Pakistani. BCB always maintained friendly relationship with all board regardless of political affiliation. But

PCB has got major support from BCB. More than you think

As a fan I want relationship between two boards to be healthy. Frankly PCB is not thinking about BCB's interest.
 
If you can invite WI and SL to UAE, you can invite BD. There's hardly millions watching us play vs WI and SL.

This is all about trying to force BD to tour Pakistan.

Obviously a tour to Pakistan would be beneficial for us but forcing other boards to tour won't work.

Nevertheless, interested to see where this goes.

Sri Lanka and West Indies tour generate interest in Pakistna

Sri Lanka is considered a proper full member. While West Indies bring excitement to the limited overs cricket they play, as they have boundary hitting players in their team..

Pakistani's Bangldesh as a very low team nowadays, they dont accept them to be above minnow level.
 
Wow..they really do look down on bangladeshis , why else would they take issue with BCB not touring pakistan when the rest of the world isn't !

More to do with what happened a few years ago when the PCB gave up its ICC presidency to the BCB in exhange for a tour that never happened.

I get that internal politics in the BCB was at play, but that's still sour.

However PCB now need to be pragmatic and host Bangladesh in the UAE
 
part of that though is because we have refused to host them in UAE

I get it when the screwed us the first time, but i think we have to be more pragmatic now

It is different with BD because Pakistan has tolerated their ISIS and security problems and still toured. This gesture has not been reciprocated.

This doesn't apply to other countries because they don't share Pakistan's security challenges. BD do. So either reciprocate or no more tours. Simple as that.

Our stock is rising, PSL is thriving, we are making more money then we have ever did. We have become relevant again. Its up to BD to play fair otherwise goodbye.
 
It is different with BD because Pakistan has tolerated their ISIS and security problems and still toured. This gesture has not been reciprocated.

This doesn't apply to other countries because they don't share Pakistan's security challenges. BD do. So either reciprocate or no more tours. Simple as that.

world isnt fair one has to be smart about these things
 
Sri Lanka and West Indies tour generate interest in Pakistna

Sri Lanka is considered a proper full member. While West Indies bring excitement to the limited overs cricket they play, as they have boundary hitting players in their team..

Pakistani's Bangldesh as a very low team nowadays, they dont accept them to be above minnow level.

All that despite no big difference in the rankings of both teams in ODIs or tests. Fans worldwide rate Bangladesh much better. Ask a Lankan Indian or English fan.
 
Sri Lanka and West Indies tour generate interest in Pakistna

Sri Lanka is considered a proper full member. While West Indies bring excitement to the limited overs cricket they play, as they have boundary hitting players in their team..

Pakistani's Bangldesh as a very low team nowadays, they dont accept them to be above minnow level.

what does that make us considering right now we are ranked lower and were whitewashed by them

If you are living on history you are living on nothing
 
All that despite no big difference in the rankings of both teams in ODIs or tests. Fans worldwide rate Bangladesh much better. Ask a Lankan Indian or English fan.

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oh bhai. what should i do with what lankan fans think?

Its the Pakistani mentality here

WHy are you trying to convince me, i'm just telling you the reality of the fans here OVER IN PAKISTAN!!!

it doesn't matter what ranking or what proof you bring here. People in Paksitan dont view Bangladesh as a major team.
 
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what does that make us considering right now we are ranked lower and were whitewashed by them

If you are living on history you are living on nothing

again, people are not understanding what i'm saying

I consider, Bangladesh as a good tough opponent, but the thinking in Pakistan is that Bangladesh are still a minnow team.
 
again, people are not understanding what i'm saying

I consider, Bangladesh as a good tough opponent, but the thinking in Pakistan is that Bangladesh are still a minnow team.

They are a minnow.

When have they ever achieved 1st ranking? When have they won a ICC tourney? Heck when have they qualified for a final for a ICC tourney? Keep this going, when have they been in top 4 ranking? NEVER.

They are minnows. Nothing personal just metrics.
 
Needless chest thumping from PCB at a time when we can ill-afford to antagonise other boards. Just invite them to UAE first and end this notion that we're entitled to some charity from our "Asian brethren" in BCB.

I suppose we may not have gotten much cricket anyway on this July tour as it'd be during monsoon season.

We'll probably cobble together a tour of Zimbabwe, which with all due respect is a major step down from Bangladesh, unless a compromise is worked out with the BCB.
 
Needless chest thumping from PCB at a time when we can ill-afford to antagonise other boards. Just invite them to UAE first and end this notion that we're entitled to some charity from our "Asian brethren" in BCB.

I suppose we may not have gotten much cricket anyway on this July tour as it'd be during monsoon season.

We'll probably cobble together a tour of Zimbabwe, which with all due respect is a major step down from Bangladesh, unless a compromise is worked out with the BCB.

Stop being so fearful nobody is antagonized. Pakistan has already toured them twice.

ICC understand well playing in UAE makes zero commercial sense.

BCB is playing politics with their cricket and now its up to us to reboot this relationship.
 
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oh bhai. what should i do with what lankan fans think?

Its the Pakistani mentality here

WHy are you trying to convince me, i'm just telling you the reality of the fans here OVER IN PAKISTAN!!!

it doesn't matter what ranking or what proof you bring here. People in Paksitan dont view Bangladesh as a major team.

But west Indies with no name players is definitely a big hit?

What makes you feel Pakistani fans don't care about Bangladesh. I am sure a lot of Pak fans know about our improvement. About fizz and Miraz.

They also know BD are ranked above in ODIs My Pak friends tell.me they would rather watch Bangladesh play Pakistan rather than Lanka or Windies with second string player led by Jason holder lol
 
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Stop being so fearful nobody is antagonized. Pakistan has already toured them twice.

ICC understand well playing in UAE makes zero commercial sense.

BCB is playing politics with their cricket and now its up to us to reboot this relationship.

BCB never played politics. Only M kamal did.
 
Hopefully they have a better reason than the abject stupidity of national pride

BCB declining to share revenue is the main reason. They were waiting for bhikh but when bcb declined then they opt out
 
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Stop with these strawman comparisons. Have Bangladesh lost tens of thousands of civilians due to terrorism in the last ten years ?

Is Bangladesh military actively conducting combat operations in their own territory with the deployment of thousands of troops ? Are they bordering a war-torn country like Afghanistan which has presented a major security threat to Pakistan since 1979 ? Has Bangladesh experienced the frequency of terror attacks in major cities as Pakistan ?

The answer is NO to all questions. Get real. We are NOT entitled to any charity from BCB because they're our "Muslim brothers" or Asian brethren or because we helped them to Test status in the 90s.

And its TRULY laughable to think we're entitled to a tour from Bangladesh because they were a minnow in the past. Since when does ICC rankings determine whether a board puts their own players' lives at risk by proceeding with such a tour ?

Ireland rejected a series in Pakistan in 2014 but that's OK because Western lives aren't as disposable as Asian lives ?
 
Yes because Bangladesh players lives are much less worth than that of players from western countries.

Bangladeshi players are obliged to risk their lives and your Pakistan but teams like England Australia SA need not. Intact no need to ask them even and allow these teams to play in the UAE but no not Bangladesh.

Oh please don't talk about how your team let us win the match in the 99 world cup. ICC wanted to induct Bangladesh in the test arena because of immense cricket crazy population. And if they really let us win stop talking about how it was a gift to Bangladesh and focus upon how corrupted your cricket team is.


no we not gonna talk about 99 wc...

but tell me why did you send your international women cricket team to pakistan in first place ? does it mean that bangladeshi women lives are much worth less thn bangladeshi men .... ?
 
no we not gonna talk about 99 wc...

but tell me why did you send your international women cricket team to pakistan in first place ? does it mean that bangladeshi women lives are much worth less thn bangladeshi men .... ?

They also sent their youth team to Pakistan.

BCB is playing politics and we are playing it back.
 
Stop being so fearful nobody is antagonized. Pakistan has already toured them twice.

ICC understand well playing in UAE makes zero commercial sense.

BCB is playing politics with their cricket and now its up to us to reboot this relationship.

Not reboot,need to shut down the relation with blackmailers
 
again, people are not understanding what i'm saying

I consider, Bangladesh as a good tough opponent, but the thinking in Pakistan is that Bangladesh are still a minnow team.

I understand your point perfectly. Even PAK International cricketers thought Shehzad is more talented than .... you can't control thought process of others.

Problem is, someone has to break that thought process & who else better than PCB? This tour was a rubbish idea, which you probably could sum up from my earlier post - in July, at Mirpur, with one of the best drainage system in world, we could have managed a 20-20 overs ODI; in Sylhet, it would have taken a full week to complete 40 overs.

I think, they'll work out an alternative - may be triangular is ZIM or SRL, even in WI or may be few matches in SRL. Best solution is probably to play double league triangular in ZIM & play a 3 or even 5 match Final - if ZIMBoks can make the final over BD or PAK in double league, they do deserve the 3/5 matches series. Sitting idle doesn't help anyone.
 
But west Indies with no name players is definitely a big hit?

What makes you feel Pakistani fans don't care about Bangladesh. I am sure a lot of Pak fans know about our improvement. About fizz and Miraz.

They also know BD are ranked above in ODIs My Pak friends tell.me they would rather watch Bangladesh play Pakistan rather than Lanka or Windies with second string player led by Jason holder lol

Bhai i live here.
I discuss cricket with people here

People bashed Azhar Ali when we lost to Bangladesh, saying that he couldn't defeat such a minnow team.

Your Pak Friends who dont live in paksitan dont represent us here.

The reason why Bangaldesh is looked down at Pakistan is there 14 years of mediocrity. It will take years before Bangaldesh could officially remove the minnow tag from the general public's mind.

I personally know that Bangladesh isn't a minnow, infact its a better team then Pakistan and West Indies, but same thought isn't shared with the common person in Pakistan.
 
The series would have been played in the monsoon season so it's not that bad that it has been called off.

I think we should just play Bangladesh in UAE if they don't want to play in Pakistan. Bangladesh are improving as a cricket team . We have hosted most teams in UAE so why not give Bangladesh a chance?

Playing them will test us . They would be the favourites in the LO series.

In tests I'll back us to beat them with or without Misbah and Younis.
 
Bhai i live here.
I discuss cricket with people here

People bashed Azhar Ali when we lost to Bangladesh, saying that he couldn't defeat such a minnow team.

Your Pak Friends who dont live in paksitan dont represent us here.

The reason why Bangaldesh is looked down at Pakistan is there 14 years of mediocrity. It will take years before Bangaldesh could officially remove the minnow tag from the general public's mind.

I personally know that Bangladesh isn't a minnow, infact its a better team then Pakistan and West Indies, but same thought isn't shared with the common person in Pakistan.

We understand that bro. Won't mind
 
You think PCB will invite Bangladesh to tour UAE? They claim Bangladesh isn't an attractive team but Bangladesh currently are performing really well and not too far from Pakistan. And Bangladesh are a better side than west Indies and has bigger audience and sponsorship

I don'ta gree with them not inviting Bangladesh to UAE, but I do agree with not touring yoou guys.
 
They also sent their youth team to Pakistan.

BCB is playing politics and we are playing it back.

Don't post, just for the sake of argument. Security risks are not assessed by politicians or bloggers, it's done by professionals, at least in Bangladesh it's done by a joint task force of Military & Police team; & they found out that a youth or women team is not that high profile target. Besides, I don't think there was any thread on PAK-BD women matches, which probably indicative enough how much public awareness was there. Ladies or boys can play in a closed stadium with total 35 people inside. Politics would have been if BCB declined to tour UAE or any other venue outside PAK; or for worst decline to play any bilateral - I am sure, you are aware of what it's like that sort of treatment.

I suggest, some of the posters like you should keep a bit patience before your Chairman opens mouth again - biting tongue doesn't feel good. Those 2 threads (one is regarding boycotting BPL & the other one regarding BCB declining to tour PAK) didn't end too graciously for cheerleaders getting active too early. All this bullish talks will evaporate, when 75 PAK cricketers will send their name for BPL auction in the middle of PAK domestic season.
 
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Good decision, even though I would have liked Pakistan to tour BD as we could have whitewashed them and put them in the place they belong.
 
Oh boy. This my friends is why other nations does not take PCB seriously and laugh at Pakistan cricket board.
 
like 2015 huh?

You should feel relieved - instead of posting here, if possible, say 2 extra raquats or throw two more flowers at the foot step of Durga devi, whichever is applicable; for that, we could escape 3-0, that too conceding bonus point, at the hand of that frightening top 3 of Azhar Ali, Shehzad, MoHa.
 
Won't be surprised if there is a change of mind and we do tour them after all
 
You should feel relieved - instead of posting here, if possible, say 2 extra raquats or throw two more flowers at the foot step of Durga devi, whichever is applicable; for that, we could escape 3-0, that too conceding bonus point, at the hand of that frightening top 3 of Azhar Ali, Shehzad, MoHa.

Babar Azam is our No.3
 
You should feel relieved - instead of posting here, if possible, say 2 extra raquats or throw two more flowers at the foot step of Durga devi, whichever is applicable; for that, we could escape 3-0, that too conceding bonus point, at the hand of that frightening top 3 of Azhar Ali, Shehzad, MoHa.

Our middle order along with the bowling attack is enough for BD.
 
Pakistan better get there act together though and invite them in the UAE or wherever you want to play because if they don't we'll hardly have any cricket for Pakistan this year. To add to that, it just makes sense. Bangladesh need to return a tour, get them here and play some cricket!
 
Our middle order along with the bowling attack is enough for BD.

Your B team is enough - that too in Mirpur. In fact, I don't see us surviving 20 overs of Amir & Shadab.

The Great Escape...........
 
Good. Need to show them their auqaat.

However, I think a series should materalize in the UAE. Best option, and I believe Bangladesh is definitely worthy enough to be invited now.
 
Spot on by some posters...not attractive enough as a side...and wont lose any sleep over it.

In fact Pak should concentrate on bigger teams..enough of the likes of Bangalis and Windies.

Having said that my fav team after Pak is Sri Lanka...absolutely adore the players and the public.
 
Pakistan better get there act together though and invite them in the UAE or wherever you want to play because if they don't we'll hardly have any cricket for Pakistan this year. To add to that, it just makes sense. Bangladesh need to return a tour, get them here and play some cricket!

Don't bother bro. Why invite a b-grade team in uae with so much cost. Thanx a lot bro. And we also have busy schedule too. Thanx.
 
Good. Need to show them their auqaat.

However, I think a series should materalize in the UAE. Best option, and I believe Bangladesh is definitely worthy enough to be invited now.

Thanx. Don't bother to invite us. Hamarei aukat hi nehi Hain uhape khelne ka. Thanx for inviting.
 
Australia seems to be the only other team with an open window during that time period, as per the FTP.

Would be great if we could have a few ODIs against the Aussies in the UAE in that time frame!
 
Bhai i live here.
I discuss cricket with people here

People bashed Azhar Ali when we lost to Bangladesh, saying that he couldn't defeat such a minnow team.

Your Pak Friends who dont live in paksitan dont represent us here.

The reason why Bangaldesh is looked down at Pakistan is there 14 years of mediocrity. It will take years before Bangaldesh could officially remove the minnow tag from the general public's mind.

I personally know that Bangladesh isn't a minnow, infact its a better team then Pakistan and West Indies, but same thought isn't shared with the common person in Pakistan.

But Bangladesh folks look at Bangladesh with high regards. Even Pakistan too who are not doing too well.

So this means sponsor from.bangladesh will be many in number
 
Australia seems to be the only other team with an open window during that time period, as per the FTP.

Would be great if we could have a few ODIs against the Aussies in the UAE in that time frame!

It would be great but I don't think we can play in UAE during the months of July-August due to extreme temperatures.
 
It would be great but I don't think we can play in UAE during the months of July-August due to extreme temperatures.

Once we did and Hussey was cramping after scoring 80 odd LMAO. If Hussey can cramp then you can imagine what water weight Umar Akmal would do.
 
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