The Pakistan Cricket Board decides NOT to tour Bangladesh!

[Kitchlew]

PCB should organise our home series in England.. Pakistani support is amazing in most of the cities.

 

[BDfanforever]

yeah, surprise, not a lot of people are interested in watching Pak vs Ban

Fair enough. Then why are you asking BD to tour Pak?

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Fair enough. Then why are you asking BD to tour Pak

To revive international cricket in Pakistan.

 

[BDfanforever]

Fair enough. Then why are you asking BD to tour Pak

To revive international cricket in Pakistan.

Zim toured Pak but that did not revive international cricket in Pak. BD touring Pak wont revive it either. Your best bet is to convince top teams like SA, Eng, Ind, NZ, and Aus.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I am not burning at all - dealing with PCB is exactly like dealing with North Korea - you are always in risk, be friend or enemy. Most of the PAK posters who thinks that BCB are BCCI's bunny are the biggest delusional people here - BCB is the only Asian board,which can survive well without BCCI. Obviously, be part of a larger basket is always beneficiary, therefore BCCI comes & that's true for ECB & CA as well. The amount of effort PCB gives to get a positive smile from BCCI, even fraction of that could have made this PAK Cup far, far great.

What is going to happen forward is that, PAK is bringing one more competitor for the limited window that BCCI leaves for other countries. Financially, neither PCB or BCB can't buy out schedule from top teams, from BCCI (BCCI, because our cricket season over laps), add to that IPL, BPL, PSL - now try to find 2 months window for AUS, ENG, SAF, NZ to play against PAK/BD. PAK is in far more difficult corner, because of Indian boycott. For last 6 years, PAK has managed one tour in each of this countries & a return tour for couple of Tests - add BD in that basket going forward.

For the BCCI part, you misread my post - idea isn't love for BD, but just to give the idea, get away from PAK, money is sweet. SRL, AFG will also be in that equation, while non Asian teams are already far away - PCB is just digging own hole from ego. Why BD won't tour PAK, probably many PAK posters here can explain you better, I understand why not in UAE - but, it's always win-win, playing cricket, any where, as long as TV money is there & there is an understanding of the share .......

I don't want to explain further on the relationship of BCCI, PCB, BCB, ACB & SLCB (And the National policy), what's the long term strategy/goal, whose who or how the financials related here - only I can say that, PCB is foolish - PAK as a nation, didn't learn anything from 1971 - still trying to find out, who stole my cookies.

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Bcb is run by deceitful treacherous people... pcb experienced it few years and bcci has just got the taste of it. That is good enough reason to keep you at arms length and only engage you when you are of any use. As far as Pakistan is concerned, bangers are only useful if they come and play in Pakistan otherwise you are of no use..... it's as simple as that.

How shameful of you to bring up 71 in a cricketing discussion....

 

[big_gamer007]

LOL Asian Countries and their politics Cricket is more fun off the field these days than on the field..

 

[PakLFC]

How did we treat you poorly by inviting you so many times and let.your players play in BPL

Probably on more then one occasion have you turned down an invitation to play a test series in Pak. This would have possibly restarted international Cricket there. As for the BPL I believe your players also participate in the PCL as well. No country does the other any favour by allowing their players to participate in such tournaments.

 

[MMHS]

Bcb is run by deceitful treacherous people... pcb experienced it few years and bcci has just got the taste of it. That is good enough reason to keep you at arms length and only engage you when you are of any use. As far as Pakistan is concerned, bangers are only useful if they come and play in Pakistan otherwise you are of no use..... it's as simple as that.

How shameful of you to bring up 71 in a cricketing discussion....

Understood ....... never mind, forget that bold part - I thought, it'll make some sense, but Iwas wrong.

For the other part, you are exposing your level only .............

 

[SL_Fan]

As a cricket fan disappointing stuff got to say would have been a good tussle.

 

[saeed5646]

Understood ....... never mind, forget that bold part - I thought, it'll make some sense, but Iwas wrong.

For the other part, you are exposing your level only .............

You mean that bcb doesn,t depend on Bcci for example major tournament BD have hosted in last 8 years

or all are these coincidence bcci have nothing to do with it ???

Asia CUP played in ban last three time

world t20 2014

u 19 world cup 2016

seems like Icc is too much favoring ban or it is Bcci which are helping ban behind the doors

 

[MMHS]

You mean that bcb doesn,t depend on Bcci for example major tournament BD have hosted in last 8 years

or all are these coincidence bcci have nothing to do with it ???

Asia CUP played in ban last three time

world t20 2014

u 19 world cup 2016

seems like Icc is too much favoring ban or it is Bcci which are helping ban behind the doors

Where is BCCI coming here?

Major tournaments mean

Asia Cup - twice it was arranged in BD because that was only suitable place along with SRL to host a tournament that both IND-PAK can participate. At least once, I believe SRL declined to host the tournament, hence it came to Dhaka. In last 4/5 times, it has been hosted by either BCB or SLCB, because IND don't even play in UAE, for it's shady past - though they are happy to arrange IPL there, because IPL doesn't have anything to fear from shady things.

If I a can recall, one SAF Games was arranged by BD & one by IND, because Nepal & SRL surrendered their hosting rights,while one at Peshawar was postponed for security reasons (Didn't check details, so don't catch me on this).

Other ICC events was the WC 2011 - which was supposed to be hosted in PAK as well, until PCB's gobbets goofed up - called SRL to prove credibility & then threw them in front of assault rifle ...... PCB even received hard cash for ICC, for their hosting rights. If every thing was happy - that Mohali SF would have taken place around 150 KM west .

The old ICC KO event was initially planed to promote cricket in minor countries - first in BD, then SRL, then in Kenya. Had Mugabe not spoiled ZIM, it would have been there as well - their right went to UK. After that, ICC KO was scrapped & this CT replaced that.

Last one is T20 WC - it has been hosted by SAF, ENG, WI, SRL, BD & IND - next is AUS. Had PAK been safe, it would have been there as well by now.

Among junior cricket, U19 WC, had been hosted by many other countries, including UAE. If I can recall from memory - 1st one in 1988 in AUS, then in SAF in 1998. Then SRL 2000, NZ 02, BD 04, SRL 06, Malaysia 08, NZ 10, AUS 12, UAE 14, BD 16 & 2018 probably again in NZ.


Hosting rights are not charity - you have to submit a proposal backed by finical & logistical merit. Instead of smelling conspiracy, try to find out why & how BCB is out smarting PCB in such cases which needs planning & professionalism - nothing back door in it. ICC events earn money, which is distributed among it's members - by now you all should realize that at least BCCI won't support any charity, that reduces their amount. I am sure,you haven't noticed the figures in other thread - they are tussling with ICC & other boards not for the pie of BCB or PCB or any other permanent (or whatever, 10 Test playing) members, rather to eat up those 280mn ICC wants to distribute among Associates. Does BCCI has anything to do about it (hosting right) - of course, being one of the major contributors, BCCI, definitely has it's support, which helps. BUT, in such cases, a vote for BCCI counts as 1, just like from ZIM.


Coming to the topic of these thread - PCB & cheerleaders here are posting immature brats. If you read carefully, there are posts about the safety of PAK players, as BD is not safe - while Chairman PCB is talking totally different issue, which has nothing related to safety.

Instead of arguing for wrong reason, try to find the fault of PCB clowns. They are fighting for a wrong reason, which they'll lose every time. BCB had been the most supportive board for PCB, even under current Govt. (& the Chairman being an active MP, son of the 1st generation BAL leader Zillur Rahman). Last time, BCB even paid PCB a revenue share for a Series that was supposed to be hosted by PCB - go & try to find, how much PCB got from the 2012 "Ane Do" series.

I understand, SRL is considered to be PAK's best friend in this regard now days - posters here are not that reactive for omission of PAK from SRL's tournament in 2018 (which'll basically eat up couple of options PCB could have approached for a bi lateral) - which is fine, I understand not everyone is mature enough. But, bullying won't work with BCB, because their main strength is some where else - popularity of Cricket in BD & their capability to make money out of that popularity. Replace PAK with AFG or IRL - every seat of Stadium will be sold out & the sponsors will also put their money. It's nothing to do with being Pro or Anti PAK - change in Govt. won't change the BCB stance regarding touring PAK. If PCB thinks that they won't play BD outside PAK & won't tour BD before a return tour to PAK - we'll end up playing in ICC events only.

As usual, Shahriar has opened mouth too early - his own statements has many contradictions, which you can find, if you read it carefully line by line. He is leaving, so doesn't hold any accountability, but the next PCB Chairman will find it difficult to deal with BCB.

 

[big_gamer007]

Probably on more then one occasion have you turned down an invitation to play a test series in Pak. This would have possibly restarted international Cricket there. As for the BPL I believe your players also participate in the PCL as well. No country does the other any favour by allowing their players to participate in such tournaments.

But so have Aus,Eng,Saf,NZ,SL even WI.. So why single out only BCB? I don't see PCB pulling out of tours to the other countries, if it was for security reason they pulled out I can understand but if it *** for tat then it shows childishness and immaturity on part of PCB.. You need friends not enemies..

 

[BD-fan]

I am not offended and do not mind at all for PCB canceling the tour.

The way I see it, this time around Pak team would have gotten the stick in all three formats. So it is a face saving move for them as well. In the long run though, it is the Pak players (not playing) and fans (not watching) loss.

So not hosting this series would mean less cricket for BD. This would mean less cricket for Pak as well. No series with Ind, no series with BD. No one coming to Pakistan as well. So, PCB is not in whole lot better situation than before. Same ol' WI to beat up on at UAE. Best of luck on that. May be invite Zim, Ire, Afghanistan and play them a full series of test, ODIs, and T20. Congrats on advance.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

whether PCB is scared of losing or simply trying to be a bully like their Indian brethren is irrelevant. its not 2015 anymore and BD arent minnows that need to beg for a tour. we will play Afghans if need be.

 

[rinathq]

PCB doesnt feel like they need to tour Bangladesh where they arent making money and a possibility of losing ranking points. BCB doesnt really need that extra revenue anymore with the financial strength they have been enjoying for past few years.

PCBs fault for not hosting BD in UAE. If it was profitable hosting WI, SL then it woulve been more the profitable hosting BD. Any series that concerns BD, sponsorship, TV rights, stadium tickets arent really any issues. UAE holds a huge number of Bangladeshis so the ticket sales wouldve been significantly more.

About touring PAK, even the Pakistanis cant defend that its safe for international cricket yet. We are no different. Last time this talk happened, ICC flat out refused to send officials and thats where the plan aborted. I dont see anything changing soon either.

PCB has made themselves look very unprofessional by confirming and then cancelling the tour. Ever wondered why no one takes PCB seriously? Returning cricket to Pakistan cant be only motive as a board. Its not something they can control. Rather then hosting games in UAE, they shouldve looked for better and cheaper alternatives like SL or even BD.

I understand the general mentality here of Bangladesh being minnows and not worthy of the trouble but honestly I can tell you guys that it doesnt bother us anymore. We are happy with how our team is progressing and we believe we are becoming a major force. It took us a lot of extra time to get here but regardless, the upward curve has started. We are already seeing more interest from other teams. Cross out PCB, and it doesnt really affect us. For Pakistan though, the list of crossed out teams is 2 now.

 

[pakistan cricket fan]

Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) will issue a show cause notice against Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) after getting official statement of the cancellation of a scheduled tour to Bangladesh, reports UNB.

BCB President Nazmul Hasan Papon came up with the announcement while talking to the journalists at his Gulshan residence in the city on Friday. "We are yet to receive any official statement..., once we get it, we will take legal steps against them. Probably, we will issue a show cause notice for calling off the tour," BCB boss said.

BCB came to know about the tour cancellation after several media outlets published reports on the issue, said Papon adding, they are yet to get any official confirmation from PCB in this regard. Mentioning that the decision of PCB was so surprising the BCB chief said, "If so, will they (Pakistan) give up playing cricket?"

"BCB may think to arrange a bilateral series against any other nation, if Pakistan does not come," Papon added.

According to the FTP 2015, the two boards went into a deal for a bilateral series involving two Tests, three ODIs and a T20I in Bangladesh in July and August.

http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.c...l-issue-show-cause-notice-to-PCB,--says-Papon

 

[PakLFC]

But so have Aus,Eng,Saf,NZ,SL even WI.. So why single out only BCB? I don't see PCB pulling out of tours to the other countries, if it was for security reason they pulled out I can understand but if it *** for tat then it shows childishness and immaturity on part of PCB.. You need friends not enemies..

We have enough friends. thanks. As for everyone else rejecting to tour Pak two wrongs don't make a right. PCB pulled out of Bangladesh tour because you guys are nothing in the Cricket world compared to other sides. Bangladesh have been acting a bit to cocky with Pak so need to be put in there place which the PCB have done. We need to play someone after all but it won't be Bangladesh besides I am fed up watching us hammer you every time. We need to play the bigger teams instead of minnows if we are to improve our game.

 

[joly]

You think PCB will invite Bangladesh to tour UAE? They claim Bangladesh isn't an attractive team but Bangladesh currently are performing really well and not too far from Pakistan. And Bangladesh are a better side than west Indies and has bigger audience and sponsorship

The Deshis are a pretty good team

 

[Bouncer]

Where is BCCI coming here?

Major tournaments mean

Asia Cup - twice it was arranged in BD because that was only suitable place along with SRL to host a tournament that both IND-PAK can participate. At least once, I believe SRL declined to host the tournament, hence it came to Dhaka. In last 4/5 times, it has been hosted by either BCB or SLCB, because IND don't even play in UAE, for it's shady past - though they are happy to arrange IPL there, because IPL doesn't have anything to fear from shady things.

If I a can recall, one SAF Games was arranged by BD & one by IND, because Nepal & SRL surrendered their hosting rights,while one at Peshawar was postponed for security reasons (Didn't check details, so don't catch me on this).

Other ICC events was the WC 2011 - which was supposed to be hosted in PAK as well, until PCB's gobbets goofed up - called SRL to prove credibility & then threw them in front of assault rifle ...... PCB even received hard cash for ICC, for their hosting rights. If every thing was happy - that Mohali SF would have taken place around 150 KM west .

The old ICC KO event was initially planed to promote cricket in minor countries - first in BD, then SRL, then in Kenya. Had Mugabe not spoiled ZIM, it would have been there as well - their right went to UK. After that, ICC KO was scrapped & this CT replaced that.

Last one is T20 WC - it has been hosted by SAF, ENG, WI, SRL, BD & IND - next is AUS. Had PAK been safe, it would have been there as well by now.

Among junior cricket, U19 WC, had been hosted by many other countries, including UAE. If I can recall from memory - 1st one in 1988 in AUS, then in SAF in 1998. Then SRL 2000, NZ 02, BD 04, SRL 06, Malaysia 08, NZ 10, AUS 12, UAE 14, BD 16 & 2018 probably again in NZ.


Hosting rights are not charity - you have to submit a proposal backed by finical & logistical merit. Instead of smelling conspiracy, try to find out why & how BCB is out smarting PCB in such cases which needs planning & professionalism - nothing back door in it. ICC events earn money, which is distributed among it's members - by now you all should realize that at least BCCI won't support any charity, that reduces their amount. I am sure,you haven't noticed the figures in other thread - they are tussling with ICC & other boards not for the pie of BCB or PCB or any other permanent (or whatever, 10 Test playing) members, rather to eat up those 280mn ICC wants to distribute among Associates. Does BCCI has anything to do about it (hosting right) - of course, being one of the major contributors, BCCI, definitely has it's support, which helps. BUT, in such cases, a vote for BCCI counts as 1, just like from ZIM.


Coming to the topic of these thread - PCB & cheerleaders here are posting immature brats. If you read carefully, there are posts about the safety of PAK players, as BD is not safe - while Chairman PCB is talking totally different issue, which has nothing related to safety.

Instead of arguing for wrong reason, try to find the fault of PCB clowns. They are fighting for a wrong reason, which they'll lose every time. BCB had been the most supportive board for PCB, even under current Govt. (& the Chairman being an active MP, son of the 1st generation BAL leader Zillur Rahman). Last time, BCB even paid PCB a revenue share for a Series that was supposed to be hosted by PCB - go & try to find, how much PCB got from the 2012 "Ane Do" series.

I understand, SRL is considered to be PAK's best friend in this regard now days - posters here are not that reactive for omission of PAK from SRL's tournament in 2018 (which'll basically eat up couple of options PCB could have approached for a bi lateral) - which is fine, I understand not everyone is mature enough. But, bullying won't work with BCB, because their main strength is some where else - popularity of Cricket in BD & their capability to make money out of that popularity. Replace PAK with AFG or IRL - every seat of Stadium will be sold out & the sponsors will also put their money. It's nothing to do with being Pro or Anti PAK - change in Govt. won't change the BCB stance regarding touring PAK. If PCB thinks that they won't play BD outside PAK & won't tour BD before a return tour to PAK - we'll end up playing in ICC events only.

As usual, Shahriar has opened mouth too early - his own statements has many contradictions, which you can find, if you read it carefully line by line. He is leaving, so doesn't hold any accountability, but the next PCB Chairman will find it difficult to deal with BCB.

had to log in for this one...

BEST POST EVER even by [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] great standards.

 

[MMHS]

had to log in for this one...

BEST POST EVER even by [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] great standards.

Thanks. Now, I see things are going to take ugly turn. Jingoist journalists will shred Papon, if there is no strong response made - all this because this Old man can't keep his mouth shut.

 

[Hitman]

If PCB doesn't want to tour BD, fine. But why on earth would anyone expect BD to tour Pakistan? Leave alone BD, why would any team in their senses tour Pakistan unless there are massive financial benefits for the players which might lure them to go.

Don't blame BD or any other team for not touring you, blame your Govt for the security they provided to the Lankan team in 2009. Even after that incident if you expect other teams to tour Pakistan, then you seriously need to wake up.

 

[MenInG]

Friendly warning - bans will follow if people post rubbish on this thread again

 

[USHK]

Pakistan cancels the series and this is the reaction. Pakistan is entitled to cancel the series since Pakistan has no obligation to tour Bangladesh anymore since Pakistan has been playing in Bangladesh pretty much non-stop. Pakistan benefits nothing from playing in Bangladesh since the whole point of hosting Bangladesh in Pakistan is political statement than economical point of view. If Bangladesh feels not secure to tour Pakistan then Pakistan respects its decision just as Bangladesh should learn to respect the decision of PCB since Pakistan pretty much fulfilled the obligation with Bangladesh - more than Bangladesh has bargained for. So quit complaining since Bangladesh doesnt have to tour Pakistan at all.

Indians should be the last to poke in Pakistan's matter since India stands on Big-3 is also economically vested reasons. So why it is okay for Big-3 and not Pakistan since playing Bangladesh pretty much non-stop benefits nothing economically for Pakistan. And yes, Bangladesh is minnow. If Bangladesh is not minnow then convince that to sponsors not Pakistan.

Since Bangladesh supported Big-3 policy then Bangladesh should get used to this pattern since it is going to common cause every cricket boards are for themselves only.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Pakistan cancels the series and this is the reaction. Pakistan is entitled to cancel the series since Pakistan has no obligation to tour Bangladesh anymore since Pakistan has been playing in Bangladesh pretty much non-stop. Pakistan benefits nothing from playing in Bangladesh since the whole point of hosting Bangladesh in Pakistan is political statement than economical point of view. If Bangladesh feels not secure to tour Pakistan then Pakistan respects its decision just as Bangladesh should learn to respect the decision of PCB since Pakistan pretty much fulfilled the obligation with Bangladesh - more than Bangladesh has bargained for. So quit complaining since Bangladesh doesnt have to tour Pakistan at all.

Indians should be the last to poke in Pakistan's matter since India stands on Big-3 is also economically vested reasons. So why it is okay for Big-3 and not Pakistan since playing Bangladesh pretty much non-stop benefits nothing economically for Pakistan. And yes, Bangladesh is minnow. If Bangladesh is not minnow then convince that to sponsors not Pakistan.

Since Bangladesh supported Big-3 policy then Bangladesh should get used to this pattern since it is going to common cause every cricket boards are for themselves only.

Do you actually know what you are talking about??? NO

 

[Junaids]

The PCB are so stupid.

Finally the Big Three model is on the verge of oblivion. The nine countries have stood together against the BCCI.

Is this really the time to antagonise another country's Board?

The PCB should gave the BCB what it wants, just for now, and ensure that they stay aligned.

Because you can bet your bottom dollar that the BCCI is getting its cheque book out right now.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

The PCB are so stupid.

Finally the Big Three model is on the verge of oblivion. The nine countries have stood together against the BCCI.

Is this really the time to antagonise another country's Board?

The PCB should gave the BCB what it wants, just for now, and ensure that they stay aligned.

Because you can bet your bottom dollar that the BCCI is getting its cheque book out right now.

every team should have to be united at this time. Very important time for world cricket.

 

[Ph_11]

Much respect for PCB.

BD won few games and they think they are Moammed Alis of cricket.

Atleast Pakistan beat us with better team.

BD is taking too much credit.

I dont even know the name of three players from BD team

Rooster takes less credit for dawn than BD board.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Much respect for PCB.

BD won few games and they think they are Moammed Alis of cricket.

Atleast Pakistan beat us with better team.

BD is taking too much credit.

I dont even know the name of three players from BD team

Rooster takes less credit for dawn than BD board.

That's why no need to take you seriously as actually you don't know anything,an ignorant who just jump into thread to bash someone.

 

[saeed5646]

Next step By PCB should be to not give NOC To players to partcipate in BPL due to its Clash with Quaid azam

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[pakistanigoneaussie]

Next step By PCB should be to not give NOC To players to partcipate in BPL due to its Clash with Quaid azam

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in that case the PCB should compensate them, fringe players should be allowed the opportunity to make a living, the way the PCB stopped Imran Nazir, a player who at the time had no international future, from going to the BPL was troubling. I dont even think they compensated him

 

[tonmoy]

Next step By PCB should be to not give NOC To players to partcipate in BPL due to its Clash with Quaid azam

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Easy to say when your livelihood is not at risk.

You know why the Bangladeshi cricketers are still better off than lots of other nations despite the lowest pay from BCB (amongst major cricket power)? It is because Bangladesh domestic cricketers are highly paid by their clubs for playing the domestic 50 over competition.

 

[Balthazar]

As an Indian fan, I support PCBs decision. BCCI should realize this too and stop supporting the ungrateful BCB.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

As an Indian fan, I support PCBs decision. BCCI should realize this too and stop supporting the ungrateful BCB.

Not voting you should be reason of your frustration,isn't it bro? Cool. As a BD fan,we also liked PCBs decision.

 

[tonmoy]

As an Indian fan, I support PCBs decision. BCCI should realize this too and stop supporting the ungrateful BCB.

If I understand correctly you lost by 9-1 vote
How about ungrateful Australian and English board? Or they get a free pass because being a Caucasian race makes them superior?

And how about SLC? BCCI literally organised random series with them to keep SLC financially healthy.. or am I mistaken?

 

[Balthazar]

If I understand correctly you lost by 9-1 vote
How about ungrateful Australian and English board? Or they get a free pass because being a Caucasian race makes them superior?

And how about SLC? BCCI literally organised random series with them to keep SLC financially healthy.. or am I mistaken?

Their turn will come. I don't think BCCI is going to forget about this. They had no business is refusing to two tier system, yet they backed smaller boards like BCB and SL, who were at the real disadvantage had the proposal went ahead. In a way I am glad this has happened, 'cuz I wanna see Test championship to happen.

 

[Misia]

Why not?

Even though I feel Pakistan will easily beat Bangladesh in a test series and win the ODI series, Bangladesh has come a long way and deserves a full series against Pakistan.

With Pakistan not playing India and Sri Lanka becoming a poor team, a rivalry with Bangladesh could emerge.

Bangladesh fans have a lot of passion, it would be great for them to watch a 3 test, 3 ODI and 3T20 series against Pakistan. PCB and BCB should both mature and come to an agreement,

Agreed .. im sure a full series with bangladesh 3 tests 3 t20s 5 odi in neutral venue like say England/SAfrica woudl be very competitve series 60/40 edge to Pak