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"The PCB must have one captain for all formats and there is no need to have a vice-captain": Shahid Afridi

Should Pakistan have one captain for all three formats?

  • 1. One captain for all formats

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Former Pakistan captain Shahid Afridi while talking to the media:

"The PCB must have one captain for all formats and there is no need to have a vice-captain. This will give a clear message to all players who is in charge,"

"If you think Muhammad Hafeez is good then don't just judge him on one series give him proper time and the same should apply to the captain as well he should be there for three years."

"The World T20 Cup is going to be a very tough tournament this year with some very strong teams in the hunt for the title. I also don't think this is the time to make any changes in the format squad," he said.

"We just need to continue with the same group of players and give them confidence. But yes I would like to see Fakhar Zaman and Saim Ayub open the batting in T20s,"


 
Shaheen is not even fit enough to play 3 Tests back-to-back so how can he captain all 3 formats
 
Absolute bonkers. Too much biting cricket balls. T20 Captain incapable of switching to test cricket thinking. No vice captain? What benefits does that bring? What if the captain is ill or injured?
 
Why is Afridi thinking the worst for Pakistan all the time these days?

Making Rizwan all format captain…I gaurentee you this will end in tears like it did for a former great captain
 
Why is Afridi thinking the worst for Pakistan all the time these days?

Making Rizwan all format captain…I gaurentee you this will end in tears like it did for a former great captain
He never mentioned any names. Shaheen could be the one he is talking about here.
 
He never mentioned any names. Shaheen could be the one he is talking about here.
We all know how this guy operates

He’s said it a few times that he wants Rizwan as captain. I kind of understand why he was always considered mentally 16 years old by everyone
 
We all know how this guy operates

He’s said it a few times that he wants Rizwan as captain. I kind of understand why he was always considered mentally 16 years old by everyone
He might have taken riz name a few times but still, SSA is the captain and he is the one he was actually hoping for to be the captain.
 
Honestly there is no player in current Pak side who is capable or deserving of leading the team in all 3 formats, Shahid Afridi knows that but deliberately giving this kind of statement. Vice-captain must be appointed to groom future leader and to give right message to the team. You can't randomly ask anyone to lead the side in absence of your main captain. Any professional organization have proper hierarchy to maintain discipline and alignment with all team members.
 
This guy talks like he bats..

My opinion - each format should have its own captain Test/ODI/T20 and there should be TWO coaches one for tests and one for odi/t20….

We are soo far behind….
 
This guy talks like he bats..

My opinion - each format should have its own captain Test/ODI/T20 and there should be TWO coaches one for tests and one for odi/t20….

We are soo far behind….
Who should be the captain of each format?
 
Make Shaheen the captain , and have no VC so (a) Have no challenger to captaincy (b) Have no succession plan.

Makes senses Shahid.
 
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Three captains is too much, and rightly not very common for longevity.

One captain for tests, and the other for ODIs and T20Is is the ideal method.
 
Because he by far the best keeper and one of Pakistan best bats currently.

Babar was the best batsman. Rizwan was pretty much getting his way under him and most likely manipulating him too as they share the same agency

The result? Pakistan’s WORST EVER World Cup campaign in its history.
 
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Babar was the best batsman. Rizwan was pretty much getting his way under him and most likely manipulating him too as they share the same agency

The result? Pakistan’s WORST EVER World Cup campaign in its history.
I said "one of the best". Where did I say he's the best?

Pakistan were awful at the world cup but it wasn't our worst world cup.
 
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Three captains is too much, and rightly not very common for longevity.

One captain for tests, and the other for ODIs and T20Is is the ideal method.
It’s a lot of responsibility and pressure for anyone; let alone our current lot.

The eras of Pakistan having 8 or 9 captains in the XI are gone.

The only man in the squad who is a legitimate option to be all format captain is Mohammad Rizwan. And he has enough on his plate as it is.

Therefore it makes sense to split the roles up…but I agree it should be white ball + test rather than 3 captains as that too is overkill.
 
I said "one of the best". Where did I say he's the best?

Pakistan were awful at the world cup but it wasn't our worst world cup.
Oh there is no doubt that it was Pakistan’s worst ever campaign. Guess what, it isn’t going to get any easier 4 years down the road when Pakistan has to play in South Africa.

This was Pakistan’s worst ever campaign considering:

-the World Cup was played in the sub-continent (near home conditions)

-The Pakistan captain was given plenty of prior warning to re-evaluate the squad they are taking by senior, ex captains

-Pakistan had plenty of time with home cricket/ODIs against below strength teams from New Zealand and Australia to build a proper competitive side

-Pakistan got 7 ODI’s leading into the World Cup on Asian conditions with the Afghanistan series and then the Asia cup

The result? Losing to Australia, South Africa, England and should have actually lost to NZ but we can’t be sure of that tbf. Also losing to Afghanistan by 8 wickets having won the toss on a ground favouring teams batting first, and probably should have lost to SL too who bowled absolute tripe.

It was a HORRENDOUS campaign, there are no two ways about it. There was absolutely no way Pakistan could get out of their predicament in a format where everyone has to play each other. The performance truly reflected the dire, poor condition and planning of the team and it’s captain.

Why shouldn’t it be though? Your captain:

-was heavily influenced by a guy who openly cried about his batting position, wanting to bat at 4 without caring about the team’s needs

-your captain thought it was right to open the innings with Imam and Abdullah, only being forced his hand to bring in the best white ball batsman of Pakistan (Fakhar Zaman) in when it became abundantly clear that their 80s strategy isn’t going to get them through

-Your captain had pointless grudges, tussles with good white ball cricketers (Imad and Amir) and backed his mates Nawaz and Hassan Ali to do the job for him.

The humiliation was thoroughly deserved. Now it is up to you if you want to continue this humiliation by extending that pathetic mindset which is replicated by his best mate, Rizwan. Who is far worse when it comes to doing favours and protecting mediocrity.
 
Oh there is no doubt that it was Pakistan’s worst ever campaign. Guess what, it isn’t going to get any easier 4 years down the road when Pakistan has to play in South Africa.

This was Pakistan’s worst ever campaign considering:

-the World Cup was played in the sub-continent (near home conditions)

-The Pakistan captain was given plenty of prior warning to re-evaluate the squad they are taking by senior, ex captains

-Pakistan had plenty of time with home cricket/ODIs against below strength teams from New Zealand and Australia to build a proper competitive side

-Pakistan got 7 ODI’s leading into the World Cup on Asian conditions with the Afghanistan series and then the Asia cup

The result? Losing to Australia, South Africa, England and should have actually lost to NZ but we can’t be sure of that tbf. Also losing to Afghanistan by 8 wickets having won the toss on a ground favouring teams batting first, and probably should have lost to SL too who bowled absolute tripe.

It was a HORRENDOUS campaign, there are no two ways about it. There was absolutely no way Pakistan could get out of their predicament in a format where everyone has to play each other. The performance truly reflected the dire, poor condition and planning of the team and it’s captain.

Why shouldn’t it be though? Your captain:

-was heavily influenced by a guy who openly cried about his batting position, wanting to bat at 4 without caring about the team’s needs

-your captain thought it was right to open the innings with Imam and Abdullah, only being forced his hand to bring in the best white ball batsman of Pakistan (Fakhar Zaman) in when it became abundantly clear that their 80s strategy isn’t going to get them through

-Your captain had pointless grudges, tussles with good white ball cricketers (Imad and Amir) and backed his mates Nawaz and Hassan Ali to do the job for him.

The humiliation was thoroughly deserved. Now it is up to you if you want to continue this humiliation by extending that pathetic mindset which is replicated by his best mate, Rizwan. Who is far worse when it comes to doing favours and protecting mediocrity.
Can you tell me which world class players we left behind. Don't bring in amir and Imad as they both don't want to play and even when they played and were much better we finished the same position which was 5th.

Our 2007 world cup campaign was far worse than this. Even for sake of a discussion this was our worst world cup what is your point? Babar has resigned.

Who should have batter at 4? The only name I could think of is saud.

If you watched fakhar play he was awful for a while and needed to be dropped. I was stated Imam should never play for Pakistan in any formats.

Could you gave us the 11 players that should have played instead the ones we played at the world cup?
 
“The only man in the squad who is a legitimate option to be all format captain is Mohammad Rizwan. And he has enough on his plate as it is.”

@topspin @Dr_Bassim What do you recon about this claim boys? “Legitimate” is a pretty strong word for a guy who can’t hit the ball to one half of the ground don’t you think?
 
“The only man in the squad who is a legitimate option to be all format captain is Mohammad Rizwan. And he has enough on his plate as it is.”

@topspin @Dr_Bassim What do you recon about this claim boys? “Legitimate” is a pretty strong word for a guy who can’t hit the ball to one half of the ground don’t you think?
Afridi wants his Son-in-Law to be in charge of everything & why not :)
 
So Afridi is irked by Shan Masood after one series and he wants Hafeez not to be judged on one series, sickening
 
ok if the captain becomes unfit during a match and there is no vice captain of the team so what they will do?

Will they decide to choose a new leader through playing a game of "chirya uri" ?
 
“The only man in the squad who is a legitimate option to be all format captain is Mohammad Rizwan. And he has enough on his plate as it is.”

@topspin @Dr_Bassim What do you recon about this claim boys? “Legitimate” is a pretty strong word for a guy who can’t hit the ball to one half of the ground don’t you think?

How can you make someone as captain who openly claims that he "cramps up on purpose to put on a show".

This is not a circus.

If the purpose is to be a clown, Rizwan takes top accolades.
 
How can you make someone as captain who openly claims that he "cramps up on purpose to put on a show".

This is not a circus.

If the purpose is to be a clown, Rizwan takes top accolades.

Think we have enough people to make a circus and Rizwan the player is not one of them.
 
“The only man in the squad who is a legitimate option to be all format captain is Mohammad Rizwan. And he has enough on his plate as it is.”

@topspin @Dr_Bassim What do you recon about this claim boys? “Legitimate” is a pretty strong word for a guy who can’t hit the ball to one half of the ground don’t you think?

Hell no, this is the Pakistan cricket team not some Saya Corporation XI.
 
A one all format captain is currently not possible as we dont have a tactician who plays all 3 formats to lead.

Shan is currently the best choice for tests. we dont have a 50 overs captain yet and shaheen has just got the T20 captaincy.

I would of gone for Imad for the T20 format but now is the time to back Shaheen.
 
The only ones capable are Rizwan or Babar as they're all format players. Babar had his stint. Rizwan is the obvious option for something like this, however I think he's smarter than that and won't accept all 3.

We've gone down this drain with Sarfraz and his game regressed. Would be foolish to put Rizwan through the same. A world class batting wicket keeper is just too valuable for Pakistan even more so than a captain in my opinion.

The one captain idea across formats wouldn't work for a board like Pakistan as the captain is too involved in extra curricular activities which would come at an some expense (missing training etc).
 
The only ones capable are Rizwan or Babar as they're all format players. Babar had his stint. Rizwan is the obvious option for something like this, however I think he's smarter than that and won't accept all 3.

We've gone down this drain with Sarfraz and his game regressed. Would be foolish to put Rizwan through the same. A world class batting wicket keeper is just too valuable for Pakistan even more so than a captain in my opinion.

The one captain idea across formats wouldn't work for a board like Pakistan as the captain is too involved in extra curricular activities which would come at an some expense (missing training etc).
Now I would genuinely like for this to happen
 
The only ones capable are Rizwan or Babar as they're all format players. Babar had his stint. Rizwan is the obvious option for something like this, however I think he's smarter than that and won't accept all 3.

We've gone down this drain with Sarfraz and his game regressed. Would be foolish to put Rizwan through the same. A world class batting wicket keeper is just too valuable for Pakistan even more so than a captain in my opinion.

The one captain idea across formats wouldn't work for a board like Pakistan as the captain is too involved in extra curricular activities which would come at an some expense (missing training etc).
Shaheen is another one who is known to be an all format player. Babar is already done, so no chance for him. Things now come down to riz and SSA.
 
Wasn't he advocating for separate teams and captain during his brief stay as Chief Selector?
 
Shaheen is another one who is known to be an all format player. Babar is already done, so no chance for him. Things now come down to riz and SSA.
Shaheen hasn’t had the most glorious start as t20 captain. Right now that in itself looks like it might be a step too far for him, let alone doing all three.

It comes down to Mohammad Rizwan as the only all format option we have, and we would be ill advised to give one of our few gems that much more to do.

Rizwan could feasibly captain one format…but doing all of them would be a stretch.
 
He hardly play any Tests so its better to have one captain in all the formats.
 
Pakistan T20 team and batting order if Rizwan is captain

1. Babar
2. Rizwan
3. Shan Masood
4. Iftikhar Ahmed
5. Khushdil Shah
6. Aamir Azmat
7. Asif Afridi
8. Usama Mir
9. Shaheen Afridi
10. Abbas Afridi
11. Ihsanullah
 
Pakistan T20 team and batting order if Rizwan is captain

1. Babar
2. Rizwan
3. Shan Masood
4. Iftikhar Ahmed
5. Khushdil Shah
6. Aamir Azmat
7. Asif Afridi
8. Usama Mir
9. Shaheen Afridi
10. Abbas Afridi
11. Ihsanullah
Why Khushdil Shah!!!
 
Pakistan T20 team and batting order if Rizwan is captain

1. Babar
2. Rizwan
3. Shan Masood
4. Iftikhar Ahmed
5. Khushdil Shah
6. Aamir Azmat
7. Asif Afridi
8. Usama Mir
9. Shaheen Afridi
10. Abbas Afridi
11. Ihsanullah
its more like a Test XI
 
Interesting that Shahid has not named who he thinks should be the captain for all formats?
 
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