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The PSL is not making enough breakthroughs in attracting the top international players

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Its more or less the same foreign players every season, the only two real breakthroughts are Brendon Mccullam and right now Mitchel Johnson but both these guys are retired. Why is the PSL failing to attract the IPL level foreign players?

Is it because our maximum salaries are too low? Is it because the PSL cannot provide them with the IPL level night life? Security Concerns?

The PSL has had very good credibility and reputation as far as payments to foreign players are concerned and in some cases some foreign players have mentioned that the PSL has treated them better than the IPL in a more personalized, family style way
 
As long as it produces fresh talent such as Shadab Khan who help us win world tournaments and sit pretty on the top of T20 rankings we shouldn't care if big ticket names are coming or not. The P in PSL stands for Pakistan.
 
Because of scheduling issues mostly.AB played in the CPL for $160,000,meanwhile the highest category here has a price tag of $250,000.The problem is that in February, England,NZ and SA will be involved in a T20 tri series.Then SA and Aus will play a test series,during the time the PSL playoffs are usually held.Not to mention the WC qualifiers.

Not to mention that during the IPL,the international schedule is mostly free.
 
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The foreign pool is fine .I am actually against 4 foreign players, they should play 3 at max. And i hope in future they make playing 2 emerging players obligitory with 1 batsmen an 1 bowler.
 
For that Sethi will have to move the PSL to March or in November. But even then it won't be easy as there always is cricket except for the month April (IPL). In Feb AUS/Eng/SA usually are playing some big series.
 
For that Sethi will have to move the PSL to March or in November. But even then it won't be easy as there always is cricket except for the month April (IPL). In Feb AUS/Eng/SA usually are playing some big series.

So the ICC deliberately makes sure that there is an IPL window where most international teams are committed anywhere during that time period?
 
PSL should not be for foreign players anyway, all leagues incl. PSL first priority is to benefit local talent. PSL and some franchisees like Islamabad have made it as a foreign recruiting hub. Pakistan has such an amazing talent it does'nt need foreign players.
Pakistan is the bowling factory of the world, nations like India and Bangladesh crave for. Pakistani domestic players are looked forward to in Australian clubs and County championships. 2 players [not first class players, just participated in talent trials ] literally walked into major Australian clubs.
I am more concerned of the local talent who are not being given any opportunities although they are way better than many around the world for T20 competitions like Awais Zia.

It is a sad reality that PSL is more of a place of opportunity for Pakistani local talent than any other competitions.
 
So the ICC deliberately makes sure that there is an IPL window where most international teams are committed anywhere during that time period?

Not sure about that but you do know English and Aussie players making noise about their board scheduling series during IPL.
 
Would like to see the best players in the world in the PSL but with the international schedule as it is thse days its unlikely.

PSL still attracts good foreign players, the most important thing about PSL is to give young Pakistan players a chance. Because of PSL we have seen Hasan,Shadab,Ruman, and Sharjeel break through into the national side. That's the most important things. What is disheartening though is seeing franchises pick TTFs over young/hungry players.
 
So the ICC deliberately makes sure that there is an IPL window where most international teams are committed anywhere during that time period?

Last time I checked, there is a two month window for the IPL when the major teams, barring Pakistan, do not play international cricket.

Scheduling is why the top level players are unable to take part in the PSL. I actually like seeing players putting their country over some quick cash so there will be no complaints from me.
 
International cricket gets in the way and IND doesn't send its players.

Pay is fine, especially in the top bracket.
 
Its more or less the same foreign players every season, the only two real breakthroughts are Brendon Mccullam and right now Mitchel Johnson but both these guys are retired. Why is the PSL failing to attract the IPL level foreign players?

Is it because our maximum salaries are too low? Is it because the PSL cannot provide them with the IPL level night life? Security Concerns?

The PSL has had very good credibility and reputation as far as payments to foreign players are concerned and in some cases some foreign players have mentioned that the PSL has treated them better than the IPL in a more personalized, family style way

Yea this is what I wondered too... no big names, same old repeat faces.

Where is Ben Stokes, Pat Cummings, Mitchell Starc, Rabada, Imran tahir, ABD, Hashim Amla?

PSL is slowly becoming a farce.
 
The only progress I see is Mitchell Johnson, thats a pretty good player and a big name. However no one else is a big name that we haven't seen before.

Thats no progress at all for a tournament moving into its 3rd year.

No Kumar Sangakarra this time either
 
My bad Imran Tahir and Sangakarra are playing... thats pretty good.
 
So the ICC deliberately makes sure that there is an IPL window where most international teams are committed anywhere during that time period?

That's exactly what happens. It's not even some secret, it's public knowledge.
 
Yea this is what I wondered too... no big names, same old repeat faces.

Where is Ben Stokes, Pat Cummings, Mitchell Starc, Rabada, Imran tahir, ABD, Hashim Amla?

PSL is slowly becoming a farce.

Tahir was selected.

ENG-AUS-NZ are playing a tri-series at the same time finishing on FEB 20th. This is why most of those players didn't bother applying.

While WI and AFG will be playing WC qualifiers at the same time.

Agree on the South Africans though. I'm not sure why they didn't apply unless I'm missing something on the itinerary.
 
Tahir was selected.

ENG-AUS-NZ are playing a tri-series at the same time finishing on FEB 20th. This is why most of those players didn't bother applying.

While WI and AFG will be playing WC qualifiers at the same time.

Agree on the South Africans though. I'm not sure why they didn't apply unless I'm missing something on the itinerary.

Australia will be touring.
 
we need to be a bit realistic here. PSL is aired for free on PTV in England. It's not broadcasted in HD on Sky Sports...we are clearly lacking the sponsorship endorsement the IPL attracts. It's those Sponsorships that can afford 2-3 marquee signings per franchise. PSL has the money, but not the same as the big money in the IPL
 
we need to be a bit realistic here. PSL is aired for free on PTV in England. It's not broadcasted in HD on Sky Sports...we are clearly lacking the sponsorship endorsement the IPL attracts. It's those Sponsorships that can afford 2-3 marquee signings per franchise. PSL has the money, but not the same as the big money in the IPL

Its developing quite a viewership in the past 2 years, surely by 3rd you should see some big names.

I agree there are a couple here and there like Mitch Johnson, Imran Tahir, but still you need the cream of the cream. No chance of having Indian players but maybe try Indian ex players in coaching roles. Might help our lads chase a target : a chronic achilles heel that we will rely on foreign players for.
 
Because of scheduling issues mostly.AB played in the CPL for $160,000,meanwhile the highest category here has a price tag of $250,000.The problem is that in February, England,NZ and SA will be involved in a T20 tri series.Then SA and Aus will play a test series,during the time the PSL playoffs are usually held.Not to mention the WC qualifiers.

Not to mention that during the IPL,the international schedule is mostly free.

Pretty much this.
 
The PSL is a very successful tournament because of high quality bowling which makes the games more interesting and competitive. The IPL is the best T20 league in the world but you can realise which IPL team is the best and who's the worst whereas the PSL is more competitive than IPL I'd say. Signing McCullum and Johnson are excellent but people need to understand that it's not too bad in not having someone like Steven Smith, the PSL is mainly for Pakistan to produce top quality players.
 
I'm still not sure why any of the franchises has not used Nike or Adidas to supply their team shirts. The same suppliers are branding the cloathing the way they are provided in Pakistan domestic (non IPL) and for the Pakistan team itseld
 
It's the foreign players who are making PSL successful. Yes, the foreign pool can improve leaps and bounds but I don't think its because the big players don't want to play the PSL, its just that the calendar is unfavorable. Also I wonder why the PCB doesn't make a move for Indian fringe players like Raina and Yusuf Pathan? I don't think the Indian govt has banned players from playing leagues. It's just the international bilateral series that is not approved.
 
It's the foreign players who are making PSL successful. Yes, the foreign pool can improve leaps and bounds but I don't think its because the big players don't want to play the PSL, its just that the calendar is unfavorable. Also I wonder why the PCB doesn't make a move for Indian fringe players like Raina and Yusuf Pathan? I don't think the Indian govt has banned players from playing leagues. It's just the international bilateral series that is not approved.

It's not the government, it's the BCCI that doesn't allow Indian players to participate in other leagues
 
The PSL is doing just fine for us for now. The issues around Sky and their lack of coverage of Pakistan cricket isnt really anything to do with what people think. When we had a our greats on the screen like wasim and waqar etc, sky wasnt interested. So why would they now? They have no interest in aiding Pakistan cricket.

Same with worldwide sponsors but then they got burnt due to the 2010 fiasco. But Pepsi supports pakistan cricket so other sponsors should too. But again they would rather tap into the Indian market and ignore Pakistan. There is an element of islamaphobia in there too inmho.
 
I'm still not sure why any of the franchises has not used Nike or Adidas to supply their team shirts. The same suppliers are branding the cloathing the way they are provided in Pakistan domestic (non IPL) and for the Pakistan team itseld

I don't get it either. In particular Addidas, we manufacture for them. Surely they should be investing in our sport.
 
Scheduling is not a problem at all, to attract top players you have to pay top dollar. Right now PSL doesn't pay top dollar. ABD and the likes play too much cricket and they would rather not play IPL either but cant afford to lose out on IPL money. If PSL could provide more they would swap. Just like it happens in Football to an extent.
 
Also all those playing have been told they will have to play in Pakistan... im sure in the next edition more top foreigners will be comfortable coming to pk once they've seen a sequence of successful tournaments!
 
Pakistanis and their inferiority complex. Can somebody tell me of the big ticket foreign players that participate in the Big Bash? Isn't the BB generally accepted as the second best league around?

The quality of cricket is second to none in the PSL. Infact sometimes the lesser reputed players perform head and shoulders above the big names since they have a point to prove and a future to make.
 
Pakistanis and their inferiority complex. Can somebody tell me of the big ticket foreign players that participate in the Big Bash? Isn't the BB generally accepted as the second best league around?

The quality of cricket is second to none in the PSL. Infact sometimes the lesser reputed players perform head and shoulders above the big names since they have a point to prove and a future to make.

Naturally people want to see their favorite or top players playing in PSL. Whats wrong with that?
 
Naturally people want to see their favorite or top players playing in PSL. Whats wrong with that?

My top 10 favourite players are all Pakistani, I don't see a problem.
 
If Pakistan wins next T20 tournament twice and produce some really entertaining T20 players, then surely SKY will get interested.
 
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Thats great for you, But most other cricket fans have other favourites also.

I agree to this.

Just because someone wants to see X or Y player in PSL, it doesn't imply inferiority complex.
 
The foreign pool is fine .I am actually against 4 foreign players, they should play 3 at max. And i hope in future they make playing 2 emerging players obligitory with 1 batsmen an 1 bowler.

This!

I am fine with foreign players but would like to see 3 mandatory cricketers in emerging category and 2 in playing X1. Only way PSL teams have to necessarily pick youngsters which they are not keen to. I am dissapointed by the draft yesterday. Atleast 10 talented youngsters missed out due to teams selecting oldies and ttfs.

Domestic tournaments like these should allow youngsters to showcase their talent and should be a medium for them to come in National side. And i think generally cricket followers are fine with youngsters too. Ghaatay ka soda nahi ho ga.
 
The PSL is doing just fine for us for now. The issues around Sky and their lack of coverage of Pakistan cricket isnt really anything to do with what people think. When we had a our greats on the screen like wasim and waqar etc, sky wasnt interested. So why would they now? They have no interest in aiding Pakistan cricket.

Same with worldwide sponsors but then they got burnt due to the 2010 fiasco. But Pepsi supports pakistan cricket so other sponsors should too. But again they would rather tap into the Indian market and ignore Pakistan. There is an element of islamaphobia in there too inmho.

You really have a chip on your shoulder!

You do realise that a company will only buy a product if it believes it can make money from it. The reason sky is not purchasing rights for the PSL os because they don't think they will be able to make money from it. The biggest markets in the UK are of the local English fans and the Indian fans. That is why the IPL sells. If Sky can't get enough people to buy Sky (or adverts) for PSL then why would they need to 'help' PSL.

As for investing in the Indian market - you do realise that the Indian market is about 9 times that of Pakistan. The Indian middle class has more disposable income thus, it makes absolute sense to invest in the Indian economy. For every dollar they invest in the Indian economy, the returns are higher than what they would get in the Pakistani economy. Having said that, there is no reason why a company can't invest in both Indian and Pakistani economy if they see a market potential in Pakistan as well.

So, no need to get all touchy about it being due to 'islamophobia' or any other chip on your shoulder. Its just business.
 
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