The PSL, once again, showing us some good performers

[mastersaan10]

So when the PSL was started, I think the fans were excited about watching new talented players and giving them access to a stage where they can improve. Unfortunately, we were handed the same broken and nepotistic system that Pakistan is famous for. Most of the Pakistani players are 35+ and the youngsters are on the bench, learning until they become 30 and eventually take the seniors position.
What's worse is that the performers are these older players and what fans call 'TTF'. Kamran, Sami, Misbah, Sammy, Aizaz Cheema, ... 18 over 35 players. Or we can go on the other extreme and we have Azam Khan type players who don't even deserve to warm the bench while someone with a respectable international t20 career isn't deemed worthy of a spot. In all honesty this is the last time I am paying to watch the PSL. All the excitement that I had before has fizzled out because I know what these aged 35+ players can do and am not paying to watch them for another 5 years.

 

[Khan12]

100% agreed. Plus don't forget the rubbish oversees players. I just turn up to see any young players are given a go if not turn it back off. No need to waste my time watching these TTF's and Club Level oversees players, who are occupying the main batting spots.

 

[topspin]

It's time PCB introduced a limit to 2 x 32+ Pakistani players of this age bracket in the XI. The quality of the older players domestically are quite mediocre anyway. This move would pave way for promising youngsters to exposure in Pakistan's premier domestic tournament and allow them to rub shoulders with some of the most accomplished players across the globe.

Some of the best overseas T20 players like AB and Watson are well over 32, so introducing an age gap would harm the talent pool of foreign players participating in the tournament.

 

[Khan12]

It's time PCB introduced a limit to 2 x 32+ Pakistani players in the XI. The quality of the older players domestically are quite mediocre anyway. This move would pave way for promising youngsters to exposure in Pakistan's premier domestic tournament and allow them to rub shoulders with some of the most accomplished players across the globe.

Some of the best overseas T20 players like AB and Watson are 32+, so introducing an age gap would harm the talent pool of foreign players participating in the tournament.

They need to reduce the oversees players quota to 2 rather then 4. Plus 2 emerging players should be played every game. 1 bowler and 1 batsmen. Batsmen should be batting at the top order. Even at he age Kami is miles better then majority of the oversees batsmens.

 

[Darkrai]

They need to reduce the oversees players quota to 2 rather then 4. Plus 2 emerging players should be played every game. 1 bowler and 1 batsmen. Batsmen should be batting at the top order. Even at he age Kami is miles better then majority of the oversees batsmens.

Why have overseas players at all? I have a better idea. No overseas players, half the team should emerging, no player over 30, and the teams should not aim to win the trophy but to develop players.

 

[topspin]

They need to reduce the oversees players quota to 2 rather then 4. Plus 2 emerging players should be played every game. 1 bowler and 1 batsmen. Batsmen should be batting at the top order. Even at he age Kami is miles better then majority of the oversees batsmens.

PSL needs foreign players in the side to boost the status of the league and Pakistan needs them so future prospects can learn the way they go about their business since these overseas players are products of far superior cricket set-ups (Aus, NZ, Eng & SA).

We need a balance of overseas talent, emerging and other players. Halving the foreign talent pool is not the solution here. It's the older players that need go, Kamran Akmal is one of the few examples cited from your post.

 

[Khan12]

Why have overseas players at all? I have a better idea. No overseas players, half the team should emerging, no player over 30, and the teams should not aim to win the trophy but to develop players.

Yes, we don't have players like fletcher who averages less then Mohammed amir with the bat.

 

[Rana]

I think what can be done is to have 1 or 2 foreign players but with the same budget for the foreign player quota. That way as long as the league is held during a period where International cricketers are not busy with international cricket, you can then use the money to hire 1-2 Category A International players. PSL will still get an equal amount of viewership if Lahore Qalandars only had ABD, or Karachi Kings only had Colin Munro.

More franchises, 2 foreign players maximum but 2 of the best in world cricket. I hope that makes sense? Secondly I have to agree with OP's post about giving exposure to emerging talent rather than TTFs. However, this is franchise cricket and the selection is done by businessmen for their squads.

 

[Khan12]

PSL needs foreign players in the side to boost the status of the league and Pakistan needs them so future prospects can learn the way they go about their business since these overseas players are products of far superior cricket set-ups (Aus, NZ, Eng & SA).

We need a balance of overseas talent, emerging and other players. Halving the foreign talent pool is not the solution here. It's the older players that need go, Kamran Akmal is one of the few examples cited from your post.

whether you like it or not kamran is better then majoirty of the oversees batsmens. I am fine with 4 oversees players as long as they are established not players like madison, salt, samit, fletcher, moores, summers, devich, taylor. If they pick players like Roy, Hales, Morgan etc i have no problem with that but picking these club level cricketers is a joke. These guys can be easily replaced by players in Pakistan whether 40 year olds or 20. Someone like samit is blocking Zafar and hacks like dwaye smith is blocking Saud Shakeel. As much as i don't like Misbah he still better then these so called oversees "stars" which shows their standard.

 

[topspin]

whether you like it or not kamran is better then majoirty of the oversees batsmens. I am fine with 4 oversees players as long as they are established not players like madison, salt, samit, fletcher, moores, summers, devich, taylor. If they pick players like Roy, Hales, Morgan etc i have no problem with that but picking these club level cricketers is a joke. These guys can be easily replaced by players in Pakistan whether 40 year olds or 20. Someone like samit is blocking Zafar and hacks like dwaye smith is blocking Saud Shakeel. As much as i don't like Misbah he still better then these so called oversees "stars" which shows their standard.

Lets wait for the likes of Corey Anderson, Munro, Lamichanne et al to fly in before we jump to conclusions with the overseas talent.

But yes I agree there are some substandard overseas players (especially batsmen) who could easily be replaced by Pakistani players, but the franchises are not required to pick 4 overseas players in such a scenario.

 

[Darkrai]

Yes, we don't have players like fletcher who averages less then Mohammed amir with the bat.

Well, this is not going to happened. This a premier tournament, not a youngster development program. This is where mostly the best are supposed to play not players who have barely played any cricket.

Tell who are these talented young Pakistan batsmen who are going to light up the PSL on fire? Rizwan Hussain has failed in 3 games. Saud Shakeel, PP's fav, averages less than 20 and has never hit a 6 in T20s. The players who were given a chance such as Talat, Farhan, and Asif are pathetic at the international level. Who are these talented players that i don't know about?

1 emerging category in enough. This way only the best will be selected. If the emerging player in good enough he will be selected, examples are Shaheen and Haris.

What you are suggesting will make PSL a low quality league. Not many people will be interested in watching it. The point of PSL is the promote cricket and bring cricket back to Pakistan. Bringing big names in the best way to do that.

 

[Khan12]

Lets wait for the likes of Corey Anderson, Munro, Lamichanne et al to fly in before we jump to conclusions with the overseas talent.

But yes I agree there are some substandard overseas players (especially batsmen) who could easily be replaced by Pakistani players, but the franchises are not required to pick 4 overseas players in such a scenario.

Hence i am saying reduce this to 2. Doesn't matter about corey anderson, munro we know they are good enough. It doesn't change the fact that the oversees batsmen are rubbish they make awais zia look world class in comparison to them.

 

[mastersaan10]

I think reduction to 3 makes sense

 

[Khan12]

Well, this is not going to happened. This a premier tournament, not a youngster development program. This is where mostly the best are supposed to play not players who have barely played any cricket.

Tell who are these talented young Pakistan batsmen who are going to light up the PSL on fire? Rizwan Hussain has failed in 3 games. Saud Shakeel, PP's fav, averages less than 20 and has never hit a 6 in T20s. The players who were given a chance such as Talat, Farhan, and Asif are pathetic at the international level. Who are these talented players that i don't know about?

1 emerging category in enough. This way only the best will be selected. If the emerging player in good enough he will be selected, examples are Shaheen and Haris.

What you are suggesting will make PSL a low quality league. Not many people will be interested in watching it. The point of PSL is the promote cricket and bring cricket back to Pakistan. Bringing big names in the best way to do that.

Yes and salt, fletcher, moores, samit etc are the best in world. Thank you i din't know that. The likes of talat and asif put these oversees players to shame.

 

[Khan12]

Well, this is not going to happened. This a premier tournament, not a youngster development program. This is where mostly the best are supposed to play not players who have barely played any cricket.

Tell who are these talented young Pakistan batsmen who are going to light up the PSL on fire? Rizwan Hussain has failed in 3 games. Saud Shakeel, PP's fav, averages less than 20 and has never hit a 6 in T20s. The players who were given a chance such as Talat, Farhan, and Asif are pathetic at the international level. Who are these talented players that i don't know about?

1 emerging category in enough. This way only the best will be selected. If the emerging player in good enough he will be selected, examples are Shaheen and Haris.

What you are suggesting will make PSL a low quality league. Not many people will be interested in watching it. The point of PSL is the promote cricket and bring cricket back to Pakistan. Bringing big names in the best way to do that.

Shaheen is not in emerging.

 

[Sadozai]

Well, this is not going to happened. This a premier tournament, not a youngster development program. This is where mostly the best are supposed to play not players who have barely played any cricket.

Tell who are these talented young Pakistan batsmen who are going to light up the PSL on fire? Rizwan Hussain has failed in 3 games. Saud Shakeel, PP's fav, averages less than 20 and has never hit a 6 in T20s. The players who were given a chance such as Talat, Farhan, and Asif are pathetic at the international level. Who are these talented players that i don't know about?

1 emerging category in enough. This way only the best will be selected. If the emerging player in good enough he will be selected, examples are Shaheen and Haris.

What you are suggesting will make PSL a low quality league. Not many people will be interested in watching it. The point of PSL is the promote cricket and bring cricket back to Pakistan. Bringing big names in the best way to do that.

Jaahid Ali & Ifti Uncle

 

[Khan12]

Jaahid Ali & Ifti Uncle

They will still do a better job then some of the ones which are selected.

 

[PakPremi]

Why are we fussing about foreign players. Surely the ones chosen are the ones available at the time PSL is held and additionally many others would not want to travel to Pakistan yet. Adding foreign players to league makes it more colourful, gives opportunity to our players against stars of world even if some are not as good as they were at they were at their peak. More foreign players playing PSL in Pakistan also will encourage oreign teams to play in Pakistan near future.

 

[Saj]

I've enjoyed watching Haris Rauf and Umer Khan but apart from that I've not been overly impressed.

I mentioned in another thread that I'd like to see 2 emerging players in the starting XI of each team - then we will see more young players emerge from the PSL.

 

[Theo_14]

I was going to make a similar thread but once the tournament had ended.

We all thought PSL would be a fantasy world for the rookies, youngsters and players that have done well at domestic level.

However it’s become a proper sifarish concept with Captains/coaches selecting their “friends.” Ie Sarfraz selecting Shehzad.

There is lack of desire from teams to rotate and use local players - it’s killing players like Gohar.

This will be my last PSL too if this continues. Kudos to Islamabad for selecting youngsters over the years & Lahore Qalandars for setting up talent programmes but also giving players chances.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

I've enjoyed watching Haris Rauf and Umer Khan but apart from that I've not been overly impressed.

I mentioned in another thread that I'd like to see 2 emerging players in the starting XI of each team - then we will see more young players emerge from the PSL.

It will not happen untill the franchises lost its love for the old players sami, misbah, etc and now butt is a good addition