The richness of the Big 3 stands on thin ice

[Gilly]

@ GILLY

No AUS dont want to destroy pakistan cricket but their refusal to tour together with the other boards is hurting pakistan cricket
The fact you cant see this is baffling

Cricket may not be that important to australia but that doesnt stop them touring a place like india where threat of terror is also high England have had multiple terror attacks when australia have been there but theyvr never left or stop touring

You say they would love to tour but ur words dont match their actions when no tour has been held since 1998

There are thousands of western people in pakistan going out n about freely without security at the moment

The fact you and aus think pakistan is dangerous says more about your thinking than it does about pakistan

There is no benefit to Australia to see any harm come to Pakistan cricket.

A healthy and strong cricket team from Pakistan has benefits to Australia, they have a strong team to play with strong support which elevates and improves cricket for everyone. The more strong robust teams for Australia to play the better off Australia will be. It would be counter productive for Cricket Australia to deliberately harm Pakistan cricket.

The security issue is not cricket driven, (most) people in Australia have a different perception to security compared to other countries, to us security is not army, guns, road closures. To us security is checking your bag to make sure you are not smuggling in some drinks or have a badly worded sign. Its normal for an Australian to say if they need guns, soldiers, ect, then the risk is to high.

You will very rarely see weapons in public in Australia, we have a much lower tolerance to risks than Pakistan, the mere act of playing sport to us is not something that should have a risk attached, our stance due to differences in cultures is quite large and we have to respect those differences because one is not right or wrong but they are just two different perceptions.

 

[gazza619]

ECB have behaved like a graceless & shameless organisation

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...ing-self-interested-ecb-still-fit-for-purpose

The ECB has commemorated its quarter-century with a truly wretched couple of weeks. Most obviously there was the cancellation of the mini-tour of Pakistan, wrapped up in a cowardly, anonymised mea non culpa blaming Covid bubbles and player weariness.

This is surely an act of transparent deceit. The men’s tour was due to be four days long. There is no way on earth a crew of English cricketers couldn’t be found to make the trip. Talk of security concerns turned out to be baseless.

More likely, the ECB took this decision because it served its own immediate interests, because some star employees didn’t want to go, and because Pakistan’s generosity in bailing out English cricket last summer meant absolutely nothing in that moment.

It is graceless and unworthy behaviour from a body whose existence is only validated if it retains a sense of mission, of duty, of obligations that go beyond pure self-interest. Not least because the ECB’s own articles of association dictate it must promote the game of cricket both inside and outside its own territory, an obligation that has clearly not been met here.

It will leave a lasting wound. But not shame, it seems, because this is also a shameless organisation.

Witness the astonishing greed of that £2.1m bonus to be shared among Tom Harrison and his fellow executives in return, basically, for delivering the Hundred.

This is, frankly, a scandal. “We are not-for-profit – all our money goes into the game,” the ECB website states, a demonstrable untruth given Chance to Shine, for example, receives pretty much the same sum as the management bonus round. Sixty ECB staff lost their jobs during the pandemic, sent on their way with some startling schmaltz from Harrison about his heartbreak at seeing such footsoldiers of the game lose their jobs (while trousering his own excess pay).

 

[Shafi]

If you have money and power you can get away with anything. Unfortunately our board has neither money nor power along with talent. But it doesn't mean we have to be bootlickers either. Just try our best, get rid of corruption in selection, improve our domestic pitches and have professional coaches. We will be decent team like NZ.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Kagiso Rabada commented on ensuring that Tests thrive outside the Big 3 during an interview with a local Indian media outlet:

"When it comes to countries excluding India, England and Australia, it is quite unfortunate. The way that I see it, to become a powerful cricket nation without the advantage of currency and advantage of TV rights, it is about playing good cricket."

"The better you play, the more teams want to play with you. We have seen it time and time again. It is very hard to argue against why those nations would want to play with each other because at the end of the day it is about sustaining the business of cricket which is to make revenue and that is how the game stays alive."

"How do you incorporate other nations playing the same amount of Test cricket...I am not sure. If you are looking at prolonging Test cricket, if you want kids to keep playing Test cricket globally, then a plan has to be made."

 

[SportsWarrior]

Kagiso Rabada commented on ensuring that Tests thrive outside the Big 3 during an interview with a local Indian media outlet:

"When it comes to countries excluding India, England and Australia, it is quite unfortunate. The way that I see it, to become a powerful cricket nation without the advantage of currency and advantage of TV rights, it is about playing good cricket."

"The better you play, the more teams want to play with you. We have seen it time and time again. It is very hard to argue against why those nations would want to play with each other because at the end of the day it is about sustaining the business of cricket which is to make revenue and that is how the game stays alive."

"How do you incorporate other nations playing the same amount of Test cricket...I am not sure. If you are looking at prolonging Test cricket, if you want kids to keep playing Test cricket globally, then a plan has to be made."

Rand is stronger than INR and their economy is also 1/8th of Indian economy. Their per capita income is higher than India. There is nothing stopping them from building better industry around Cricket. It is the pure incompetency of SA board and all the quota policies they have followed which has brought them to this level. When the racism against your minorities is fully acceptable and let your politicians loot you, what they are facing is inevitable. They have all the prerequisites to become a very financially viable board

 

[shaz619]

Please please please ICC please let us play Pakistan in the tournaments, we’re on our knees, please, just one more handout, only one, not three, but just one

 

[FearlessRoar]

As per reports:

The ICC is in active discussions with the BCCI, CA, and ECB to implement a two-tier Test system, aiming to increase match frequency among the top teams and boost profitability for the three nations.

ICC's Jay Shah, Cricket Australia chair Mike Baird, and ECB chair Richard Thompson are scheduled to meet later this month to discuss the proposal. This push comes after the record-breaking five-match Test series between India and Australia.

Former Indian coach Ravi Shastri has long supported the idea, believing that a two-tier structure would make Test cricket more competitive. He emphasized the need for more frequent matchups between top teams to keep the format vibrant.

If implemented, the new structure would allow the big three to play each other twice every three years, instead of the current four. However, the fate of lower-ranked teams remains uncertain, as the challenge of balancing sustainability with expanding cricket’s reach to more countries intensifies.

For countries outside the big three, Test cricket has struggled to be financially viable, making this move potentially damaging to their hopes of economic survival in the format.

 

[sweep_shot]

As per reports:

The ICC is in active discussions with the BCCI, CA, and ECB to implement a two-tier Test system, aiming to increase match frequency among the top teams and boost profitability for the three nations.

ICC's Jay Shah, Cricket Australia chair Mike Baird, and ECB chair Richard Thompson are scheduled to meet later this month to discuss the proposal. This push comes after the record-breaking five-match Test series between India and Australia.

Former Indian coach Ravi Shastri has long supported the idea, believing that a two-tier structure would make Test cricket more competitive. He emphasized the need for more frequent matchups between top teams to keep the format vibrant.

If implemented, the new structure would allow the big three to play each other twice every three years, instead of the current four. However, the fate of lower-ranked teams remains uncertain, as the challenge of balancing sustainability with expanding cricket’s reach to more countries intensifies.

For countries outside the big three, Test cricket has struggled to be financially viable, making this move potentially damaging to their hopes of economic survival in the format.

If a 2-tier system takes place, 1st tier should have more than 3 teams. I think it should have 5-6 teams.

BCCICC keeps on making embarrassing proposals/decisions.

 

[BCCI-Enforcer]

If a 2-tier system takes place, 1st tier should have more than 3 teams. I think it should have 5-6 teams.

BCCICC keeps on making embarrassing proposals/decisions.

Tier 1 will include Kiwi and South Africa.

BCCI never makes embarrassing decision. They only care about future of cricket.