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The Standard of Pakistani Batting in PSL

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Already in these first 3 games there has been some extremely poor batting.

Sarfaraz, Ayub, Azam Khan, Babar, Sharjeel, Imam, Kamran, Haider, Shoaib, Fakhar, Maqsood, Khushdil. All of these players have either been below par or failed.

In all the 5 batting innings so far, only Hafeez and Rizwan has been successful, and it has been extremely painful watching the rest.

Is this an indictment of batting quality, or endorsement of bowling quality?
 
Pakistan need 1 hitter they have only 3 in PSL - Sharjeel, Fakhar and Sohaib Maqsood i think Sohaib Maqsood is best because he doesn't score in middle order most of his runs are opener and at 3 when he opens he has won many matches in domestic chased 200+ scores with 180+ Sr.


And Also 2 Power hitters - because one is enough if one fails other should be there. Pakistan has Khushdil, Azam, Asif Ali , Amad Butt, Muhammad Wasim etc i see no one yet Khushdil had talent but he looks out of sorts. I expect Muhammad Wasim to perform and take take place or maybe Amad Butt just need to promote them please 🙏
 
150 is the highest score of the tournament so far :facepalm
 
Firebat said:
Already in these first 3 games there has been some extremely poor batting.

Sarfaraz, Ayub, Azam Khan, Babar, Sharjeel, Imam, Kamran, Haider, Shoaib, Fakhar, Maqsood, Khushdil. All of these players have either been below par or failed.

In all the 5 batting innings so far, only Hafeez and Rizwan has been successful, and it has been extremely painful watching the rest.

Is this an indictment of batting quality, or endorsement of bowling quality?
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The quality of batting has been ordinary, at best.
 
Damned if you do damned if you don't.

We would have seen a thread questioning the quality of bowling if we saw big scores.

Abit premature to say anything considering it's the second day of the tournament.
 
Captain Shadab fails at #3. Asif Ali lobs it gently into the hands of long-on. Talat runs Iftikhar out, then gets out himself. Hard to call this "unplayable bowling"
 
I am sorry to say this but there is a serious lack of big hitting batting talent in Pakistan.

The same failures in international cricket like Asif Ali, Iftikhar, Talat and Kushdil are on display here in the PSL. There is no new batting talent at all.

We are lucky that in the international team, we can just about get a decent batting line up on a good day. Rizwaan, Barbar, Hafeez, Haider, Imad, Shadab, Faheem and Hassan is not a bad line-up. It would be great if we could get one or two good hitters emerge but at the moment, the cupboard is very bare.

How Abdullah Shafiq has not got a PSL contract, when every team is full of flop batsmen, is beyond me!
 
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Muddaser said:
Damned if you do damned if you don't.

We would have seen a thread questioning the quality of bowling if we saw big scores.

Abit premature to say anything considering it's the second day of the tournament.
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Well said.
 
Tbf, the cricket on display is failing to capture my imagination.
Perhaps, it is because I see a lot of regression in the players who showed so much promise last year.
It almost feels that doing well here is futile and in fact counterproductive for many of the youngsters coming through.

I am seriously yearning for the upcoming Quaid-e-Azam trophy, and definitely not this circus.
 
I am keen to see how the fringe players and upcoming players will do in this tournament.

We know what Hafeez, Malik, Rizwan, Fakhar etc can do.

I want to see what Khushdil Shah, Hussain Talat, Haider Ali, Rohail Nazir etc are made of and what they can do and whether they can build/finish innings.
 
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Standard of batting has been poor, but this is not a surprise. It is actually very worrying that the big hitting batsmen are one trick ponies i.e. only able to slog when the ball has the right pace, right length - like a bowling machine.
 
Pacy with wisdom said:
Tbf, the cricket on display is failing to capture my imagination.
Perhaps, it is because I see a lot of regression in the players who showed so much promise last year.
It almost feels that doing well here is futile and in fact counterproductive for many of the youngsters coming through.

I am seriously yearning for the upcoming Quaid-e-Azam trophy, and definitely not this circus.
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Despite a vastly smaller budget and promotion, the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy is a superior cricket product. It actually feels like cricket in its purest form, whereas PSL is showbiz, an overproduced circus whose hype is disproportionate to the standard of cricket.

In QEA Trophy, there was selection on merit, good pitches ensuring balance between bat and ball (although lacking bounce), players representing their local regions and youngsters busting a gut to make a name. I took time to check out at least one live match per round, and if I was working then I'd watch the highlights. I was actually sad when it ended.

However seeing the same journeymen overseas cricketers in PSL at expense of domestic talent every year is demoralising. I mean, what value are the likes of Samit Patel, Ravi Bopara, Dan Christian and co adding ? I feel no attachment to any of these teams.
 
Our batting is very worrying...t9 be honest its hard to judge on micky mouse cricket but still its on world stage
 
We clearly don’t have any batting talent pool at the moment, which is a worrying sign. This is where Younis, Misbah and Yousef needs to work with Under 16 - 19 teams.
 
You can't really make the tracks even flatter, the ball is barely turning nor is it seaming in an appreciable amount.

These are perfect batting conditions, it's just that batsmen are performing at a very low quality.

They don't know where to play the ball when it's bowled in at a length, they don't play the front-foot pull so they're basically sitting ducks on those lengths.

Nobody moves their feet to come closer to the ball, so what you see is bowlers essentially bowling to a stationary target that has no way of combating the bowling at a given length.

Need to see improvements, the IU vs MS game was decent. Should have started the season with KK vs LQ, PZ vs QG, and kept IU vs MS.
 
Energy said:
Standard of batting has been poor, but this is not a surprise. It is actually very worrying that the big hitting batsmen are one trick ponies i.e. only able to slog when the ball has the right pace, right length - like a bowling machine.
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The pakistani fringe players are extremely poor quality

Most of these khusdils, asif alis, sohaib maqsood types are extremely avge one dimensional batsmen who only know how to slog in one area and usually get out

Theyve no range or know how to play in the gaps

Its high time some new talent was introduced because we know what we get with these batsmen and its the same old tripe
 
Hasan123 said:
The standard of batting has been poor.
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The first three games were relatively low scoring.Many batsmen under performed.The teams batting first did not pace the innings well.in T20 the top order batsmen need to lay a good foundation for late order batsmen to capitalise on.The strategy was not right.
 
We regularly saw huge scores in the OD cup where the ball was flying to all parts. What is different here? Pressure? Better bowling?
 
Muddaser said:
Damned if you do damned if you don't.

We would have seen a thread questioning the quality of bowling if we saw big scores.

Abit premature to say anything considering it's the second day of the tournament.
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Well put.
 
Firebat said:
150 is the highest score of the tournament so far :facepalm
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Absolutely loving it!

Notice the boundary size is ever so slightly bigger than 65 meters or something, and they are falling like flies.

This is EXACTLY what I wanted to see when the boundary is relatively stretched out. It’s has truly exposed the tullaz.

And as you can clearly see that those little known domestic Australian batsmen in BBL have a much faster bat speed.

They are more stronger and fitter and have better foot work than our national players.

T20 batting has no concept of elegance, class and/or timing.

It’s all about bat speed and muscular strength backed up by hand~eye coordination and footwork - and all our batsmen are not Intl quality in both areas.

Once we know and fully acknowledge that this is our weakest link in the mix, we should be able to start working on it.

But if we choose to live in denial and not even ready to accept it as an absolutely main issue (which will be the case) then we will continue to look this miserable, under-confident and clueless.
 
Very poor level of upcoming batting talent. But, standard of QeA is better now with only 6 teams in it and hopefully we see improvement in coming years, there is no shortcut.
 
Invest in a power-hitting coach for each team in domestic cricket, in the U19, A team, the NHPC like England did in 2015 onward. Get youngsters to take up golf and watch the hitting techniques improve.
 
Colorblind Genius said:
Absolutely loving it!

Notice the boundary size is ever so slightly bigger than 65 meters or something, and they are falling like flies.

This is EXACTLY what I wanted to see when the boundary is relatively stretched out. It’s has truly exposed the tullaz.

And as you can clearly see that those little known domestic Australian batsmen in BBL have a much faster bat speed.

They are more stronger and fitter and have better foot work than our national players.

T20 batting has no concept of elegance, class and/or timing.

It’s all about bat speed and muscular strength backed up by hand~eye coordination and footwork - and all our batsmen are not Intl quality in both areas.

Once we know and fully acknowledge that this is our weakest link in the mix, we should be able to start working on it.

But if we choose to live in denial and not even ready to accept it as an absolutely main issue (which will be the case) then we will continue to look this miserable, under-confident and clueless.
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Agreed!
 
Saj said:
I am keen to see how the fringe players and upcoming players will do in this tournament.

We know what Hafeez, Malik, Rizwan, Fakhar etc can do.

I want to see what Khushdil Shah, Hussain Talat, Haider Ali, Rohail Nazir etc are made of and what they can do and whether they can build/finish innings.
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So far I see the big hopes of the last couple of years are all flopping like fish out of water. Haider Ali, Talat Husain, Asif Ali, Sohail, Khushdil etc, all the big hitters who have been tried and failed for Pakistan are continuing their miserable form at the start of PSL6.
 
Another failure for Azam, but improved batting displays from Sarfaraz and Nawaz. Quetta reach 178, the highest score of the tournament so far, albeit with some help from Agha Salman in the field
 
Another flop for Sohail Akhtar as well despite getting off to a good start due to some halwa bowling.
 
Fakhar 82* (52)
Hafeez 73* (33)

What a performance!
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
So far I see the big hopes of the last couple of years are all flopping like fish out of water. Haider Ali, Talat Husain, Asif Ali, Sohail, Khushdil etc, all the big hitters who have been tried and failed for Pakistan are continuing their miserable form at the start of PSL6.
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Absolutely and that's the concern.

We know what Hafeez, Fakhar, Malik etc can do. We want to see the others who are yet to play for Pakistan or who have played a few matches for the country stepping up and showing what they can do.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
So far I see the big hopes of the last couple of years are all flopping like fish out of water. Haider Ali, Talat Husain, Asif Ali, Sohail, Khushdil etc, all the big hitters who have been tried and failed for Pakistan are continuing their miserable form at the start of PSL6.
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It shows that the quality of PSL is higher than what they padded their stats vs in domestics t20s.
 
Another set of good performances by Multan's Pakistani batsmen to get them to 193.

Rizwan 41 (28)
Maqsood 36 (21)

Attention now shifts to Akmal, Imam, Haider and Malik in this big run chase
 
Imam 48 (39)
Akmal 37 (24)
Malik 11* (5)
Haider 24* (8)

Pakistani batsmen showing up to PSL6!
 
Definitely gone up a notch or two.

Real good to see the batting firing from the damp squib at the start of the tournament.

Sixes, boundaries, masala cricket, Sharjeel in full flow, this is what we want to see.
 
Great set of performances by Sharjeel, Babar, Faheem, Talat, Iftikhar, Asif
 
Rizwan 76 (49)
Maqsood 61* (41)

Commanding chase by those 2, after some failures for Fakhar and Sohail.

There's been some impressive batting recently
 
Firebat said:
Rizwan 76 (49)
Maqsood 61* (41)

Commanding chase by those 2, after some failures for Fakhar and Sohail.

There's been some impressive batting recently
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Don’t forget Hafeez Bradman! 60(35) with 3 fours, 5 sixes and looked set for a big one before he was unceremoniously run out by his partner.
 
Top run scorers HBL PSL 6
Mohammad Rizwan ... 188 @62.66 SR 145

Mohammad Hafeez ... 166 @166.0 SR 177

Sharjeel Khan ............ 109 @54.50 SR 173

Chris Gayle ................ 107 @53.50 SR 167

Fakhar Zaman ........... 106 @53.00 SR 136

James Vince .............. 105 @35.00 SR 135
 
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Rizwan
Sharjeel
Babar
Haider
Hafeez
Maqsood
Imad
Hasan Ali
Shaheen Shah
Qadir
Rauf/Hasnain

This will be a solid line-up for T20I world cup inshallah
 
Ahmed216 said:
Rizwan
Sharjeel
Babar
Haider
Hafeez
Maqsood
Imad
Hasan Ali
Shaheen Shah
Qadir
Rauf/Hasnain

This will be a solid line-up for T20I world cup inshallah
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Maqsood is still a very "kacha Khilari"..just lacks real gumption inmho. All the talent, a big strong lad but such a waste of talent. Will he end up like Hafeez and only blossom when he is 40?
 
the Great Khan said:
Maqsood is still a very "kacha Khilari"..just lacks real gumption inmho. All the talent, a big strong lad but such a waste of talent. Will he end up like Hafeez and only blossom when he is 40?
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I think he's much improved player now. Over the last year or so his shot selection has improved and a method to his batting can be seen
 
Ahmed216 said:
I think he's much improved player now. Over the last year or so his shot selection has improved and a method to his batting can be seen
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lets see how he finishes this PSL. I want to see him fulfil his potential but he just lets me down everytime
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
Top run scorers HBL PSL 6
Mohammad Rizwan ... 188 @62.66 SR 145

Mohammad Hafeez ... 166 @166.0 SR 177

Sharjeel Khan ............ 109 @54.50 SR 173

Chris Gayle ................ 107 @53.50 SR 167

Fakhar Zaman ........... 106 @53.00 SR 136

James Vince .............. 105 @35.00 SR 135
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So Rizwan has a higher strike rate than even Fakhar the “t20 player”, let’s see how his haters will spin this one. :13:
 
Rizwan is really killing it right now! What a player! Amazing what a bit of ambition, hard work and belief can do... bravo!
 
The standard of batting we are getting to see from Hafeez is of the highest order. The way he he smashed a tall 140 kph bowler like Dahani for 2 sixes in that over; a hook, followed with an off drive, both with perfect balance was breathtaking to watch.
 
After a string of 190+ scores, Islamabad have brought us back down to earth. 118/10, a truly terrible performance from all involved.
 
Nice little run of high scoring has come to an end. Very poor effort from IU.

Game's pretty much done and dusted. PZ don't have to do much and can literally walk home.
 
Islamabad United batting performance was just pathetic and I must say If it wasn't for Hales they wouldn't have gotten even a 100 runs.

The three of the 4 overseas players they have 3 in the top order and the Pakistani batsman aren't that good either. Asif Ali, Iftikhar Ahmed, Shadab Khan and Hussain Talat are not good enough to be coming in the middle. Asif Ali and Ifti should be competing for 1 slot whereas Shadab Khan should be coming in at No.7. Talat isn't good enough for T20 cricket.
 
Realistically Salt should probably come in at No.5/6, Hales should come in a No.4 with Stirling opening. The problem is ISLU don't have Pakistani batsman who can open and be good enough to come in the middle order.
 
With some international games under their belt - I expect some better performances by Pakistani international players in the remaining PSL games.
 
I don't think anyone other than Babar & Rizwan will make headlines in batting, maybe a fluke inns from the fixer as well. But generally, teams would depend on foreign stars for batting.
 
I'd back Rizwan to be the leading run-scorer, he played well on slow Zimbabwean wickets.

Someone like Sarfaraz will also do well in my opinion, especially since spinners will come into play in Abu Dhabi.
 
Looking for Rohail to do something special in the Abu Dhabi Leg
 
Mohammad Faizan what on earth was that shot?

Blindly running down the pitch, head in the air, nowhere near the ball.

Dear me.
 
If Lahore Qalandars are anything to go by? Very poor.
 
Batsmen struggling against the cutters and slower deliveries in this PSL

I can accept batsmen getting caught off guard and struggling against the change of pacer for 1-2 innings but this must be the 8th innings in this PSL where i have seen a batting side being curtailed in the middle and death overs due to the opposition bowlers taking pace off the ball. The only side to brilliantly counter this have been Islamabad and Multan Sultans.
 
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