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The Truth - They Never Fought for Fawad Alam

No need to unnecessarily blame Misbah here. He is the only selector in last 10 years who selected him in Tests(the format he is best suited to). In 2010-2017, he could have vouched for his selection, yes, but he was never the captain who asked for things and was only doing what he was given(a bad quality captain wise but effective one when you are working for PCB, a Pakistani institute).

Younis has been his biggest supporter.

Yeah spot on. Really dont understand why the only guy to select him is coming under the gun here. The argument that Asad was performing poorly so Misbah shouldnt get credit for dropping him is a strange one, Asad always performed poorly!
 
If there is something that is an unforgiveable performance by the fans, its Misbah against India in 2011 semi final. Or the infamous Misbah scoop, that can really end someone's career. But Misbah here is the greatest test match captain of all time for Pakistan. I don't think there can be any UNFORGIVEABLE PERFORMANCE. There are other unforgiveable things that deserve lifeban like spot-fixing, and match-fixing by some of the greats, but a knock against Australia or a knock against NZ causing an almost life-ban shouldn't be one of them.
 
People spewing hate on Misbah unnecessarily. The fact that he is the only one who has selected him after 10 years of ouster in Tests.

His 3 biggest supporters are:

1. Younis Khan
2. Shahid Afridi
3. Misbah.

Please refrain to throw vitriol on current management with conspiracy theories and just appreciate the few good things they have done.

Younis has publicly defended his selection, has given him support and has backed him to come off. Even when Younis was the skipper, he debuted Fawad albeit as an opener. Played him for 2 tests in which he scored his 160 odd while batting alongside Younis who I think scored 80 something. As soon as Younis was gone from captaincy, Fawad was dropped after a single test in place of bits and pieces players.
He even trusted him to give an over at a crucial stage in the semi final of wt20 09 which wasn't a good move in hindsight.

Shahid Afridi and Fawad Alam go way back. Don't know if anyone remembers or not, back in 2006 in national t20 tournament, Afridi was captaining Karachi Dolphins and he himself stated I don't know any of the boys except those who have played international cricket. In that tournament, Fawad was man of the tournament when KD finished as runners up to Sialkot Stallions in a match where Fawad took 5/23.


The biggest of the antagonists in this story are:
1. Inzamam ul Haq
2. Sarfraz
3. Mickey Arthur
4. Mohd Ilyas
5. Mohsin Khan
6. Waqar Younis

Inzi was like he could go as far as to calling apple a banana just to not select Fawad. Instead, he gave chances to Imam, Asad, Shan, Iftikhar and others.

Sarfraz always preferred Shafiq, their friendship is well known. Even got him to Quetta Gladiators somehow.

Mickey like his usual arrogant self(sometimes it was for better, sometimes for worse), preferred others and was more inclined towards aesthetics, something the batters like Sharjeel, Babar(in no way disparaging), Shafiq(little Tendulkar ROFL) provided. So no real surprise why he didn't get a nod.

Mohd Ilyas was just a dummy without any cricketing sense whose sole purpose was to just get Imran Farhat in.

Mohsin Khan although made some good selections, but he was totally wrong in his vision. He saw Fawad as an LOI player rather than a test player. His statements after dropping Fawad from ODI squad in NZ 2011 was laughable as he called him a future ODi star.

Waqar Younis. The guy who wanted to make Umar Amin, Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq new Yousaf, Saleem Malik and Miandad. Enough said.
 
What at no.6 he would not have faced Shane Bond?

Fawad I dont think did himself many favors when he was given the limited number of chances he was given. Sometimes you have to put in the hard yards before your time comes around. He has a chance now to create a legacy hope he makes the most of it. I dont see any point in mucking around over non-selection.

Having said all that, he should have been selected over Asad all this time. To Asad's credit he got the optics of cricket so right and the essence of cricket so wrong he fooled all the selectors. Thats how life goes sometimes I guess :)))

Facing a new ball at no3 on a fresh pitch against Shane bond isn't the same as playing at no 6. No?
 
Facing a new ball at no3 on a fresh pitch against Shane bond isn't the same as playing at no 6. No?

So many possible playing conditions which of course matter. At 6 he could face reverse swing. Or even the prospect of a chase just depends. The overall point is it doesnt really matter, if you have an opportunity just grab it.

In any case he is here now and thats the most important thing to focus on, what he does going forward and we should support that. Not a big fan of looking backwards and pointing fingers unless it has an implication on how we move forward, thats all.
 
Imagine scoring 160 on debut and being dropped from test side based on his T20 performances. Judging someone based on a different format. The level of sabr he showed is unbelievable.

I really hope he gets a series or two on sub-continent pitches too.
 
He would have been same as useless Asad shafiq worst player ever.He couldn't have scored runs in international cricket.just not good enough
 
There were many instances where Fawad was unfairly overlooked. But the most egregious was when Inzamam and Misbah preferred Iftikhar Ahmed to Fawad for the 2016 England tour. Fawad was a automatic on that tour
 
Afridi also did not push for his selection in tests when he was the darling of PCB for many years.

Fawad was the highest scorer in that ODI tour of England in 2010.

Afridi actually did not object to Fawad (and Yousuf) being dropped for 2011 WC (despite both being in form), and agreed to carry inferior ODI batsmen in Younis, Shafiq, etc.

His game was exactly what Pakistan needed, busy at the crease, frequent rotation of strike, knack of manipulating the field for quick 1's and 2's. He was one of the best anchors in Pakistan for ODIs that time.

In fact the first time Fawad broke into the team in 2007 T20 WC, it was on the back of most impressive domestic T20 performances one could ever imagine, where he top scored, was highest run scorer in semi-final and final, alongside highest wicket-taker as well, and was declared best batsman, bowler and man of the tournament.

It was a pity, though, Malik just played Fawad for two matches in actual T20 WC, and then too he sent him at 8/9 when all Fawad could do was slog.

Fawad has been hard-done by across formats for most of his career. Though it is in tests that his ouster has been the most alarming

Afridi is not darling for PCB in those years.. IIRC there's a huge confusions who'll lead Pak in2011 WC..
 
Imagine scoring 160 on debut and being dropped from test side based on his T20 performances. Judging someone based on a different format. The level of sabr he showed is unbelievable.

I really hope he gets a series or two on sub-continent pitches too.

Yeah fair point and well put. Pak cricket is messed up in many ways. Talent bohot hai :)
 
It's worth asking the question. Which one of the people on the main list were actually qualified for their respective jobs?

1. Was Zaka Ashraf qualified to be the Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board?
2. Was Mohammad Ilyas or Iqbal Qasim qualified to a be a selector?
3. Was Azhar Ali qualified to be Pakistan's Captain not once but twice?
4. Was Waqar Younis Qualified to be a Head Coach?
 
It's worth asking the question. Which one of the people on the main list were actually qualified for their respective jobs?

1. Was Zaka Ashraf qualified to be the Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board?
2. Was Mohammad Ilyas or Iqbal Qasim qualified to a be a selector?
3. Was Azhar Ali qualified to be Pakistan's Captain not once but twice?
4. Was Waqar Younis Qualified to be a Head Coach?

So are you saying Misbah WAS qualified to take the triple role of Chief Selector, Head Coach and Batting Coach?

From Chai wala to Ehsan Mani (who is way passed retirement) .... there isn't anyone in the entire setup of PCB who was hired or merit and he/she is professionally qualified to perform his job with a proven record of making a difference.

Look at this guy for example. He is the health director of PCB

https://www.facebook.com/cricketroomco/videos/152316409653071
 
It appears that Fawad is not fighting for himself either.

He has been complete rubbish apart from one inconsequential, meaningless innings that came too late to help Pakistan win and ended too early to help Pakistan draw.

He has failed in the first innings in both Tests which makes him as big a culprit as any batsman, since both Tests were setup in the first two innings with NZ securing too big a lead for Pakistan to salvage anything.

An average of 26 after two tours is not good enough. His fans can make all the excuses that he wants, but the reality is that his output has not been remotely good enough for a 35 year old with 12,000 FC runs and at an average of 55.

He was brought into the team to make an instant impact. A bit like Voges did for Australia in 2015-16, where he immediately averaged 50+ by utilizing the years of Shield cricket experience.

Fawad is not a long-term investment. If he needs a settling in period like rookie players, there is no need of investing in a 35 year old.

If he needs flat pitches of Pakistan, there is no need to flash his FC record because we have got plenty of players who score runs on flat pitches of Pakistan against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh reserves.

If he fails to produce any impactful innings against South Africa, he could soon find himself on the sidelines again and he will have no one else to blame.

Fawad had the chance to prove that he is a 55+ averaging FC batsman with 12,000 runs. Unfortunately, he blew his chance with flying colors.
 
So are you saying Misbah WAS qualified to take the triple role of Chief Selector, Head Coach and Batting Coach?

From Chai wala to Ehsan Mani (who is way passed retirement) .... there isn't anyone in the entire setup of PCB who was hired or merit and he/she is professionally qualified to perform his job with a proven record of making a difference.

Look at this guy for example. He is the health director of PCB

https://www.facebook.com/cricketroomco/videos/152316409653071

No. I’m saying none of the ppl I mentioned including Misbah were qualified for their jobs.
 
A strong minded selector could even drop Fawad here, ahead of SAF.

It’s unlikely this will happen but Azhar could be the only person from the top/middle order who gets a run.

Abid too may sneak past the axe unless other openers or No.3 slot batsmen from FC have strong statistics.

Otherwise, only see Azhar going through to ease the phasing out, with Babar and Rizwan forming the rest of the middle and lower order.
 
Fawad has done himself no favors by failing to capitalize when the team required him to. Besides his one knock he hasn't been able to stablize himself.

Today he did all the hard work by staying at the crease but then losing his wicket.

Granted the game was already out of the hands and nothing could've saved it with 4 tailenders to come.

He needs to stamp his authority on the game and that hasn't happened. However judging by some of the other big names that haven't really performed, I think he will sneak by to SAF tour only because of his 100.
 
Kick him out already along with all other losers.Shukkar rabba he didn't get many chances but had he got the chances I m sure he would have failed very badly but now is the time he should be kicked out.
 
The moral of the story is that few things in life are easier than getting Pakistani fans excited.

It takes nothing for them to serve humble pies and open tribute threads only for the reality to dawn on them later.
 
The moral of the story is that few things in life are easier than getting Pakistani fans excited.

It takes nothing for them to serve humble pies and open tribute threads only for the reality to dawn on them later.

And not to mention those “talent spotter” threads -
seriously, we must admit that we lack international level talent, international level mindset and international level competency.

We truly are proving to be a third world country even by sporting standards.
 
Imagine scoring 160 on debut and being dropped from test side based on his T20 performances. Judging someone based on a different format. The level of sabr he showed is unbelievable.

I really hope he gets a series or two on sub-continent pitches too.

That too as an opener, a position that he never batted before
 
Fawad Alam did not deserve to be dropped for 10 years after 3 matches. That too after averageing 41 in those 3 matches.

Regardless of how he does now the PCB cheated him of a fair chance.
 
Kick him out already along with all other losers.Shukkar rabba he didn't get many chances but had he got the chances I m sure he would have failed very badly but now is the time he should be kicked out.

Just kick the whole team out dont we ?
 
fawad should be in the squad for south africa series depending on the team combination he can play in the team or be at the squad
 
Imagine scoring 160 on debut and being dropped from test side based on his T20 performances. Judging someone based on a different format. The level of sabr he showed is unbelievable.

I really hope he gets a series or two on sub-continent pitches too.
His initial drop was harsh, however he is finished now.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a gratifying story. Every time I see Fawad Alam score runs, my heart rejoices. 10 years denied him will never be returned, but all we can do is celebrate these apogee moments with him. Well played; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Fawadever?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Fawadever</a>&#55357;&#56399;&#55357;&#56399;&#55357;&#56399;.</p>— Ian bishop (@irbishi) <a href="https://twitter.com/irbishi/status/1354385971417018368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a gratifying story. Every time I see Fawad Alam score runs, my heart rejoices. 10 years denied him will never be returned, but all we can do is celebrate these apogee moments with him. Well played; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Fawadever?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Fawadever</a>������.</p>— Ian bishop (@irbishi) <a href="https://twitter.com/irbishi/status/1354385971417018368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

great to see.
 
There can be no surprise. This is literally what he’s been doing on these pitches for more than a decade
 
Lol- people wanted fawad out after 4 innings and saying he had blown it. But some people were ok with asad Shafiq getting 10 years on the basis that it is only the figment of our imagination that there are better in domestic :)

Pakistan fan things...
 
More tears for [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

He’s waiting for the next innings/end of the match after Pakistan loses so he can call these soft runs. Best not to pay attention to deliberately attention seeking arguments
 
There can be no surprise. This is literally what he’s been doing on these pitches for more than a decade

Irrespective its against Saffers who have one of the best bowling average for fast bowlers in last few years.

This is a tremendous knock when Pak were down, underplay at your own peril but this was more clutch than most Asad knocks I have seen.
 
Irrespective its against Saffers who have one of the best bowling average for fast bowlers in last few years.

This is a tremendous knock when Pak were down, underplay at your own peril but this was more clutch than most Asad knocks I have seen.

Also this pitch was very different to the ones that he’s been playing on in domestics, it’s never this two paced - they tried to prepare a spinning track and the curators botched the job a little bit. Ended up with crazy uneven bounce that Fawad did well to fight through.
 
I only caught glimpses of the play today and he was his usual shaky stuff. Nevertheless, he did score in the first innings for a chance so he should be applauded for the performance.

However, this guy has 12k FC runs at an average of 55+.

This was the bare minimum that was expected from him in his home ground. He should actually be criticized for throwing it away and not converting it into a big hundred and completely batting South Africa out of the match.

The fact that his fans are distributing mithai over a 6/10 type innings shows how low our standards have become.
 
Lets not forget that win given the opportunity to play Test, ODI, and T20 Cricket Fawad didn't disappoint. For a player with an awful technique(the argument) he averages 40+ in 38 ODIs. He won matches for Pakistan in ODI Cricket. It's really an absolute disgrace and each and every one of these people need to be asked the question.

I still remember his series of sixes against I believe England.

Very disappointing that he was not selected for such a long stretch of time.
 
I wanted to share a list of names who never fought for Fawad Alam. Certainly not publicly. It's about Fawad Alam today because of after more than a decade of injustice Fawad proved what most of us already knew. That despite his crabby and odd technique, Fawad understand the art of scoring runs. This is not only true for Test Cricket, but his ODI/List A, and T20 performance is also of high quality. The only black mark on his career is his inability to hit sixes. Lets remember that Pakistan is one of the worst power teams in world cricket. Please share anyone I missed.

Chief Selectors

1. Iqbal Qasim
2. Mohammad Ilyas
3. Mohsin Khan
4. Moin Khan
5. Inzamam ul Haq
6. Haroon Rashid

Head Coaches

1. Mohsin Khan
2. Waqar Younis
3. Dav Whatmore
4. Micky Arthur

Captains

1. Shahid Afridi
2. Misbah ul Haq
3. Mohammad Yousuf
4. Azhar Ali
5. Mohammad Hafeez
6. Sarfraz Ahmed

Legends and Commentators: Did any legend of Pakistan Cricket or a prominent media personality ever fight for Fawad or other players like him? The answer to this question is no. The likes of Inzamam, Mohammad Yousuf, and Rameez Raja demonized his batting stance. The likes of Wasim Akram and Shoaib Akhtar mostly stayed silent. The only group of people who survive with any repute is the Print Media. The Print Media in Pakistan always asked the question. They deserve some credit.

Chairmans: It's not there job to select players. It is their job to create systems that promote merit and performance. It is their job to hire the right people. Unfortunately, they've failed miserably.

1. Nasim Ashraf
2. Ijaz Butt
3. Zaka Ashraf
4. Najam Sethi
5. Shaharyar Khan
6. Ehsan Mani?

It was not only Fawad's loss, it was a great loss to Pakistan and the Cricket world.
 
Irrespective its against Saffers who have one of the best bowling average for fast bowlers in last few years.

This is a tremendous knock when Pak were down, underplay at your own peril but this was more clutch than most Asad knocks I have seen.

Exactly my point this is a very underrated SA attack with KG being in top 10 test bowler rankings for ICC. Anytime you make runs against Aus or SA it must be acknowledged and these are never "baby" knocks as some attention seekers would say.
 
It was not only Fawad's loss, it was a great loss to Pakistan and the Cricket world.

I had three things in mind when I created this thread.

1. I think it's important to point out the voices of Pakistan Cricket over the last decade and a half who could have made good decisions but decided not to through sheer incompetence, corruption, or a complete lack of understanding about cricket. This leads me to another point. Yet these people persist in our system. There voices remain strong despite a total lack of performance on their part.

2. People in Pakistan don't understand how to identify and evaluate batting talent. Our analysis of batting is based off of rudimentary talent triggers such as aesthetics and 6 hitting. We've reduced what is a complicated and nuanced subject to something that is very fleeting. Lets remind ourselves that a talent hunt for batsman in Pakistan is often reduced to batters playing 4 deliveries.

3. The loss lies with Pakistan Cricket. Fawad Alam is not the only casualty of incompetence and corruption. There are so many others, in fact too many. It's important to remember that this isn't a recent phenomenon. It is worsened by greater discourse in the media, social media, and data. This has gone on since the beginning of Pakistan Cricket. Pakistan Cricket is littered with unfulfilled careers including those of truly great players.
 
I'm sure some selectors/coaches would have dropped Fawad after the England tour. Here's some interesting words from Fawad today:

"Misbah has always encouraged me and after my performances in England they could have dropped me but they didn’t do that and they saw my potential. They gave me chances in New Zealand also and the management has given me a lot of support and you take that confidence to the crease with you and the concern of whether you will be picked for the next match is removed. Misbah has given me a lot of confidence and encouragement and these positives are what can lift you as a player and help you deliver as a player."
 
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It is clear that there was no injustice against him. He is simply not that good.

He is averaging 35 post comeback in spite of all the years of FC experience. There is no difference between him and Shafiq except that the latter is at least good to watch.

Fans need to stop being emotional about him and look at his performance objectively. He has been average.

If he is going to average in the mid 30s at the age of 35 with 12K FC runs under his belt, it is better to invest in someone like Saud or Ghulam, who would produce same returns but with the hope that they will develop in the future.
 
It is clear that there was no injustice against him. He is simply not that good.

He is averaging 35 post comeback in spite of all the years of FC experience. There is no difference between him and Shafiq except that the latter is at least good to watch.

Fans need to stop being emotional about him and look at his performance objectively. He has been average.

If he is going to average in the mid 30s at the age of 35 with 12K FC runs under his belt, it is better to invest in someone like Saud or Ghulam, who would produce same returns but with the hope that they will develop in the future.

You need to stop being so negative about him. He has won more matches for Pakistan in his career than Shafiq did. Pakistan made a huge blunder by investing in Shafiq who made hay and scored some soft runs in the UAE, only to go missing when we really needed him.

Fawad would have averaged 50 plus in 70 test matches if he played instead of Shafiq in all those years. You and I both know that.
 
It is clear that there was no injustice against him. He is simply not that good.

He is averaging 35 post comeback in spite of all the years of FC experience. There is no difference between him and Shafiq except that the latter is at least good to watch.

Fans need to stop being emotional about him and look at his performance objectively. He has been average.

If he is going to average in the mid 30s at the age of 35 with 12K FC runs under his belt, it is better to invest in someone like Saud or Ghulam, who would produce same returns but with the hope that they will develop in the future.

Knew you’d be frontline to slate him, he’s done a good job in this series. Averaging above 50, and is what the second highest run scorer for this series and that to above Bobby.

Have a word with yourself.
 
You need to stop being so negative about him. He has won more matches for Pakistan in his career than Shafiq did. Pakistan made a huge blunder by investing in Shafiq who made hay and scored some soft runs in the UAE, only to go missing when we really needed him.

Fawad would have averaged 50 plus in 70 test matches if he played instead of Shafiq in all those years. You and I both know that.

One failed innings and all of a sudden you are a zero, I think Mamoon needs a Rajnikanth type player in the team.

You are honestly quite bitter mate.
 
Knew you’d be frontline to slate him, he’s done a good job in this series. Averaging above 50, and is what the second highest run scorer for this series and that to above Bobby.

Have a word with yourself.

Fawad Alam: 56 FC average - gets recalled after ten years at age 35 and now playing his first ever home Test series. Somehow still scoring hundreds against top attacks. Average 39.

Doctor saab after each failure: Why isn't he replicating his FC form ?!

Hanuma Vihari: 56 FC average - gets selected in his prime. Plays in a much superior batting lineup. Average 32.

Doctor saab after each failure: Radio silence.

Intellectual dishonesty at its finest ! And I'm not knocking Vihari by the way who should get a proper run before Mamoon's Indian friends jump on my throat.
 
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He would have scored 6000 test runs with 45 like average had he been given Shafiq like preference.
 
Fawad Alam: 56 FC average - gets recalled after ten years at age 35 and now playing his first ever home Test series. Somehow still scoring hundreds against top attacks. Average 39.

Doctor saab after each failure: Why isn't he replicating his FC form ?!

Hanuma Vihari: 56 FC average - gets selected in his prime. Plays in a much superior batting lineup. Average 32.

Doctor saab after each failure: Radio silence.

Intellectual dishonesty at its finest ! And I'm not knocking Vihari by the way who should get a proper run before Mamoon's Indian friends jump on my throat.

Instead of repeating the same argument in every thread, perhaps you should stick to one. I have already addressed this laughable comparison with Vihari in the other thread.
 
Knew you’d be frontline to slate him, he’s done a good job in this series. Averaging above 50, and is what the second highest run scorer for this series and that to above Bobby.

Have a word with yourself.

He is averaging 35 post comeback overall. He averaged 10 in England and 32 in New Zealand.

He has been nothing special at all. Pakistani fans can pamper him all the way and treat him like a darling, the facts show that he is not doing well.
 
You need to stop being so negative about him. He has won more matches for Pakistan in his career than Shafiq did. Pakistan made a huge blunder by investing in Shafiq who made hay and scored some soft runs in the UAE, only to go missing when we really needed him.

Fawad would have averaged 50 plus in 70 test matches if he played instead of Shafiq in all those years. You and I both know that.

Maybe you do but I don’t. Looking at how he has batted since his comeback, he seems to have a ceiling of 35-40, which is the same as Shafiq.
 
He is averaging 35 post comeback overall. He averaged 10 in England and 32 in New Zealand.

He has been nothing special at all. Pakistani fans can pamper him all the way and treat him like a darling, the facts show that he is not doing well.

He won us the last game and is the second highest run scorer for this series, none of our batsmen have played brilliantly historically against SA whether that be away or home.

You have a severe problem dude with not giving a player a break, fact is you never gave the guy credit for his innings in the karachi test and then putting on a recovery show with Babar in this first innings, he’s contributed to this series whether you think or not. Plus if he wasn’t improving series by series it would be a different story and the fact he makes his starts count.

Fact is you honestly wait and pounce on a guy waiting for him to fail and then don’t even praise his efforts when he does well, mate you are just quite bitter and that’s the honest truth.
 
asad shafiq played a large part of his career behind the protection of younis khan and misbah both whom comfortably outperformed asad shafiq while they were in the team. given the investment made in asad shafiq, his job was to play a leading role in pakistani batting lineup as it was transitioning into new era. did asad shafiq's performance post misbah/yk retirement justify this investment?

no, it most certainly did not. since retirement of yk/misbah, against top teams(excluding zim, sl, and bdesh) in 15 tests, asad ali has averaged around 32 while scoring a solitary hundred which was in uae. numbers clearly show asad shafiq was out of his depth in international cricket who managed to survive as long as he could hide behind senior players. he career began melting as soon as as soon as spotlight fell on him.

in comparison, fawad alam has been asked to lead from the front pretty since he has returned to intl cricket. during this time, he has faced no protection from the top order. and yet his performance trend has showed a remarkable improvement as soon as he has been able to establish himself. asad shafiq, had multiple foreign tours without showing any improvement despite being a guaranteed selection. otoh, since comeback, fawad alam has faced fast bowlers of caliber that dont exist in domestic and yet he has put up very strong numbers which even the likes of yk were not able to produce when they first came to the team.

question of fawad alam is not a matter of his selection alone. such omission due to personal agendas has damaged pak cricket from time immemorial. there have been other such decisions - treatment of sami aslam for one who was better than any opener who has come after him. without accountability pak cricket will never progress which is exactly what is desired by detractors.
 
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He won us the last game and is the second highest run scorer for this series, none of our batsmen have played brilliantly historically against SA whether that be away or home.

You have a severe problem dude with not giving a player a break, fact is you never gave the guy credit for his innings in the karachi test and then putting on a recovery show with Babar in this first innings, he’s contributed to this series whether you think or not. Plus if he wasn’t improving series by series it would be a different story and the fact he makes his starts count.

Fact is you honestly wait and pounce on a guy waiting for him to fail and then don’t even praise his efforts when he does well, mate you are just quite bitter and that’s the honest truth.

Everyone has batted poorly in this series including Fawad. It doesn’t matter where he ranks in terms of aggregate score.

He has only played one decent innings and even that was a baby hundred. Nothing special.
 
Instead of repeating the same argument in every thread, perhaps you should stick to one. I have already addressed this laughable comparison with Vihari in the other thread.

Rich coming from someone who has been posting in every Fawad Alam thread to slate him since his comeback.
 
Rich coming from someone who has been posting in every Fawad Alam thread to slate him since his comeback.

Yes but I am not quoting others. If you are going to quote me and say the same stuff in parallel threads, do you expect me to copy paste my replies in both threads?
 
Everyone has batted poorly in this series including Fawad. It doesn’t matter where he ranks in terms of aggregate score.

He has only played one decent innings and even that was a baby hundred. Nothing special.

Mate you are salty, can't do nothing as a middle order if your openers aren't doing nothing.

Please tell me what's a "baby" hundred? just goes to show you're a poor fan who can't even acknowledge someone coming out during a crisis situation and putting on a valuable partnership then making it count with scoring a hundred. A hundred is a hundred and everyone on here, commentators, Fawad's biggest critic Inzi even gave him praise plus getting MoM for that.

Looking at stats is one thing but then looking at when a player contributes during a crisis situation is something else which you've failed acknowledging. If a person is making runs and that to making them count with a big innings then dropping them is silly. A win is a win and runs are runs. However, just to keep you satisfied i think you should make up the whole playing XI maybe nagging the opponent will win us the game.
 
Rich coming from someone who has been posting in every Fawad Alam thread to slate him since his comeback.

The guys a nagger, he shuts up when Fawad scores and then waits to pounce on him when he fails. Fawad made runs in this series and that's what counts and he's improving as well series by series which is what you should look at.

If it was up to Mamoon drop a guy after one failed test match, Mike Tyson said it best easy to hate harder to love.

I'm satisfied with Fawad's performance in this series and seeing that he's improving is great. I would just like to see him work on his sweep against spinners and then i'll be satisfied. Given the assignments he's been given this hasn't been the easiest comeback unlike others who get praised for bashing weak opponents.
 
I had to come out of retirement from Pakpassion today (perhaps this was my first post in last 1 year) just to post few words on Fawad Alam ,my most favourite of all current batsmen in last 1 decade. Let's not forget about his own countrymen ,the Pakistani fans who didn't realize his value. A few years ago I was so vibrant on Fawad injustice here in PP that someone very famous here (got a lot of POTW here) just got annoyed and posted a comment " stop your Fawad fetish, he is not fit for international cricket". But I continued posting on and on just to demand the inclusion of Fawad in Pakistan team as Fawad was on top of his game at that time. But with time I realized that Misbah was in power and he along with the Pak management at that time just won't let Fawad (still don't know why) in. I just stopped. After a long long time it is just amazing to see Fawad again, thanks to the Almighty. He is not at his peak, still he is better than others to rely upon to save a test match for Pakistan in New Zealand. MashaAllah Fawad ,you are a real gem and I wasn't wrong about you. Pakistan is the real looser, they missed the golden service of a wonderful player.

You are absolutely correct. Pakistan cricket being the real loser here with not selecting Fawad all these years and giving chances to lesser talented players. The system is rotten.
 
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