There was no bigger panicker than Sourav Ganguly: Greg Chappell

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MELBOURNE: Their soured relationship was no secret but the attack launched by former India cricket coach Greg Chappell on Sourav Ganguly in his just-published autobiography reveals the Australian's much deeper bitterness towards the ex-Indian skipper.

There was "no bigger panicker" than Ganguly, writes Chappell about the elegant left-hander who is till now India's most successful captain.

Chappell acknowledges that Ganguly's support was one of the reasons he got the coach's job in 2005. But states that the Indian's idea probably was 'you scratch my back, I scratch yours'.

"He expected I would be so grateful to him for getting me the job that I'd become his henchman in his battle to remain captain. I, on the other hand, took on a job with the primary responsibility to Indian cricket and the Indian people," Chappell says in the book 'Fierce Focus'.

During his three-year tenure as coach, Chappell was accused of dividing the team, a charge he virtually confirms.

Chappell said such was the hierarchy in the team that youngsters were petrified of speaking before a senior such as Sachin Tendulkar in the team meetings.

The former Australian captain said he began to separate team meetings into three groups - senior, intermediate and junior - so that he could hear their thoughts, which were later broken down by current skipper Mahendra Singh Dhoni who had begun to gain in confidence and assert his leadership at that time.

"The real ray of hope for Indian team was Mahendra Singh Dhoni, one of the most impressive young cricketers I'd ever worked with. He was smart, and able to read the game as perceptively as the best leaders," Chappell wrote.

"If I wanted to know what was going on in the middle, Dhoni became my go to man. He would eventually breakdown one of the biggest problems in the India teams," he added, referring to the young players' reluctance to express themselves," said Chappell.

"...the youngster would say, 'I can't speak before so-and-so. If I speak up before a senior player, they will hold it against me forever.' Some were petrified, flat out refusing to say a word in a meeting before, say, Tendulkar had spoken. It was so hierarchical, it made Australian teams look like commune," he wrote.

Dhoni made his Test debut after Chappell took over as coach.

Recalling his tumultuous stint with India, Chappell said at times he had to deal with mood swings, fluctuating commitment to fitness and senior players' unwillingness to get out and mix with the local culture and enjoy tours.

Chappell also delved on his stormy relationship with Ganguly.

Speaking about the unhappy equation, Chappell said it turned bitter when the then skipper started expecting him to be his saviour.

"I wanted to help India become the best cricket team in the world...If that means eventually they could only become that team without Sourav, then so be it," Chappell said.

He described Ganguly as a player "caught with self doubt and his own struggle to survive".

"Sourav had great batting and leadership talent, but never realised his potential because he was consumed by what he saw as the threats around him," he wrote.

Chappell claimed that when he was asked to give his views to the BCCI on the team's future, he told the Board president Ranbir Singh Mahendra that "I couldn't see this team winning the 2007 World Cup, but regeneration was possible if it started with Sourav permanently handing the captaincy to Rahul."

"I thought once Sourav is no longer in charge, his batting would improve and his followers might be brought into line and made better contributors to the team," Chappell wrote.

"Sourav was reappointed for the coming tour of Zimbabwe, after which he sent me a very hurt text message asking why I wasn't backing his captaincy," he said.

Chappell said he had no bitterness for Ganguly at that time.

"I did like Sourav," he wrote. Chappell blamed Ganguly's attitude problem on the cultural upbringing, which he said was common in India.

"I felt strongly that if he gave up the captaincy, he could find a way to batting greatness. He didn't want a coach, or an agent of change. He wanted a political ally," Chappell said.

On the team's trip to Zimbabwe, Chappell described how the daily results affected the moods of players and accused Ganguly of confusing them with constant changes.

"When I sat down and talked with him about it, he would agree to everything I asked, but then go his own way. Some other senior players were similarly expert at Gandhian passive resistance: saying 'Yes yes yes' before doing the exact opposite. Each time he agreed, then didn't do it," he wrote.

"In a warm up for the Tests, against Zimbabwe-A at Mutare, Sourav went missing for the toss so I went out to do his duty for him. I lost. When he learnt what I'd done, he seemed more vexed that I'd lost than that the coach had had to do the captain's job," he said.

During the match, Chappell also accused Ganguly of faking an injury and walking off after four overs.

"He was retiring hurt, yet he appeared to have no injury. I suggested he go for an MRI scan, but he declined. I'd seen a lot of excuses over my years from guys who didn't want to bat in difficult conditions, but normally they were more subtle than this," he wrote.

"He, in my view, was simply frightened of a failure before the Test series," he said.

Chappell recalled that when that when he inquired about Ganguly's actions from some of his teammates, they said it had been going on for some years.

"...joking that he had a miracle doctor in Kolkata, because his serious injuries always cleared up when he went home."

Chappell revealed that during the 2006 South African series, Ganguly sen him a text message saying he felt like his 'son' and would do anything to come back into the team.

"As I wasn't a selector, that wasn't my decision, but it turned out that a deal had been done among the panel and he was picked as the 'all-rounder' for the Test series against Sri Lanka," he wrote.

Chappell said he feared that Ganguly's reinstatement would destabilise the new captain Rahul Dravid and jeopardise the improvement that the team had made.

"Sure enough, the very complicated ducks and drakes being played among the politicians and administrators resulted in Sourav's reinstatement as a player for our tour to Pakistan," he wrote.
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That was two horrible years for Ganguly. But again...the same youngsters performed under Dada before Chappel Entered

Just promoting his book..

I hope he wrote how he managed to destroy two international sides in his stint as a coach.
 
Extracts:-

1. Dada and Chappell hate them each other even now
2. Junior players are afraid of speaking in front of the senior players :akhtar:waqar
3. Dhoni , the goto guy
4. Dada underutilized his batting talents and his leadership skills
 
Extracts:-

1. Dada and Chappell hate them each other even now
2. Junior players are afraid of speaking in front of the senior players :akhtar:waqar
3. Dhoni , the goto guy
4. Dada underutilized his batting talents and his leadership skills

Junior players like Sehwag,Yuvi,Bhajji all came in support of Dada at the time.

Dhoni is now successfull and he is saying this, but chappel preffered DK over Dhoni at times.

Dada def under untilised his batting talents(still scored 18,000 international runs which only handfull manages)....but not his leadership skills. Look where we ever pre dada--and where we were when he left us.
 
Chappel and gangu never had a good term. Not surprising.

Though, i can't figure tendu, dravid developing a grudge against juniors if they speak. Tendu never was a dominated leader type.... Even in his captaincy, he was mellow. And excluding them, who else is senior?
 
@navrocks

yep.. i remember .. he said DK has got the leadership qualities than anyone else in the team..
 
Insecure from juniors? Well its Ganguly who was the one who promoted juniors. Likes of Sehwag, Yuvraj, Harbhajan have all become world class players under him.
 
Chappel and gangu never had a good term. Not surprising.

Though, i can't figure tendu, dravid developing a grudge against juniors if they speak. Tendu never was a dominated leader type.... Even in his captaincy, he was mellow. And excluding them, who else is senior?

Like Australian players said he has a habit of twisting and saying things, making problem between players. He has caused players dispute to whichever team he has coached.
 
By Seniors Chappel is mentioning Dravid , Dravid had become very arrogant and Dodgy during chappels stint .

It was a well combined plan made by Chappel-Dravid to throw Ganguly from the team as both wanted to take complete control of the team with Ganguly being the only threat in there way , Sachin never gets involved much into team politics so the real insecurity was developing among Dravid/Chappel not Ganguly .
 
Like Australian players said he has a habit of twisting and saying things, making problem between players. He has caused players dispute to whichever team he has coached.

I think we came out well then..with not much player disputes.

And the fact that he agreed he made team into two groups of seniors and juniors in meetings says a lot about his coaching.

Harbhajan said there was lot of insecurity in the team when Chappel was around..and even sachin made a statement against chappal.

And not to forget how he totally runied Irfan Pathan..
 
Chappel/Dravid were in favour of Raina /Yuvraj over Ganguly in the Test Matches but somehow the Brave Lion from Calcutta fought back his way into the team .
 
I think we came out well then..with not much player disputes.

And the fact that he agreed he made team into two groups of seniors and juniors in meetings says a lot about his coaching.

Harbhajan said there was lot of insecurity in the team when Chappel was around..and even sachin made a statement against chappal.

And not to forget how he totally runied Irfan Pathan..

zaheer also said the same. He was afraid he was going to lose his place. That was shattering his confidence.
 
By Seniors Chappel is mentioning Dravid , Dravid had become very arrogant and Dodgy during chappels stint .

It was a well combined plan made by Chappel-Dravid to throw Ganguly from the team as both wanted to take complete control of the team with Ganguly being the only threat in there way , Sachin never gets involved much into team politics so the real insecurity was developing among Dravid/Chappel not Ganguly .

:)))

Sachin fanboy, you can give N_H and WL a tough competition.
 
Chappel/Dravid were in favour of Raina /Yuvraj over Ganguly in the Test Matches but somehow the Brave Lion from Calcutta fought back his way into the team .

And became second highest scores in test cricket(which is not his forte) in the World..next only to kallis.

Scored couple of great 87's in fourth Innings..a double hundred when India were 67/4..

Ganguly probably had problems in 2004/05..but he came back like a tiger.

And then there is chappel..and who went and made the same mistakes in his stint as a coach with Australia.

Indian and Aus players have huge difference in attitudes..and both had great problems with Chappal. Says a lot actually..
 
And became second highest scores in test cricket(which is not his forte) in the World..next only to kallis.

Scored couple of great 87's in fourth Innings..a double hundred when India were 67/4..

Ganguly probably had problems in 2004/05..but he came back like a tiger.

And then there is chappel..and who went and made the same mistakes in his stint as a coach with Australia.

Indian and Aus players have huge difference in attitudes..and both had great problems with Chappal. Says a lot actually..

chappal was too aggressive as coach. He wanted to change the whole set up. It doesn't go that way. You have to remain in the system in order to change it.
 
yeah.. i think that should be taken as a joke :D

lol.... But DK was a famous name for the villains in 80s hindi movie....

He isn't even considered in the selection. What the hack happened? From a potential captain to nothing....
 
lol.... But DK was a famous name for the villains in 80s hindi movie....

He isn't even considered in the selection. What the hack happened? From a potential captain to nothing....

emerging Dhoni sent DK to the oblivion :gul
 
lol @ 'panicker'.

this from the dude who told his younger brother to bowl the penultimate delivery of a ODI match underarm.
 
lol.... But DK was a famous name for the villains in 80s hindi movie....

He isn't even considered in the selection. What the hack happened? From a potential captain to nothing....

good joke brother
 
Greg Chappell is way too uptight for his own good. His track record as a coach is mediocre at the very least both internationally and in Australia. Captains are the owners of the team, coaches job is to be the adviser, the confidant the helper of the captain not the other way around.
 
It is kind funny Indian appointed him as coach, seeing as his coaching record not exactly great and his temperament well known. Perhaps BCCI thought they were getting Ian Chappell :)))
 
Ganguly was a very good leader. Chappel was an idiot, who was never right for the job.

I dont know how much of what he wrote in his book, is correct, but the indian team was better off with ganguly and without chappel
 
Problem with the Chappell era is that Greg will always talk himself up as achieving everything and Indians will always talk him down as if he achieved nothing.

Objective view cannot be found here.
 
This should obviously be taken with a huge grain of salt. Probably a bucketful.

This is a man who had a major breakdown with Ganguly, his views will never be within context and he will paint himself as the good guy.

I agree with RA, his tenure will always have two extremes in terms of opinions. Some will say players ruined Chappell's stint, while others will say he ruined it himself.
 
One thing has to agree that Ganguly was at his lowest point in terms attitude, fitness and form during Chappel stint. Chappel might be emotional but can't deny what he saw during his tenure. To add, he learned a lesson only when thrown out of the team.
 
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As :akhtar said "Gangulay ka boya hua beej aaj dhoni kaat kay kha raha hai"
 
It is kind funny Indian appointed him as coach, seeing as his coaching record not exactly great and his temperament well known. Perhaps BCCI thought they were getting Ian Chappell :)))

Not sure about his coaching credentials before being India's coach but surely Australia should've learned from his Indian stint. Could've saved the embarrassment in Ashes.
 
Greg and Ian Chappell - great cricketers, but also grudge carriers.
 
Not sure about his coaching credentials before being India's coach but surely Australia should've learned from his Indian stint. Could've saved the embarrassment in Ashes.

What is it with Indians and their obsession with making things up about Chappell? He was not our coach during the Ashes, he was not team manager, he was one of a group of selectors.

Ashes defeat had zero to do with Chappell (and a lot to do with Hilditch and our now departed coaching panel) but for some reason Indian seem to want to make believe.....
 
Sourav Ganguly reveals more on how Greg Chappell tried "to end" his career

Their public spat is now more than a decade old but for former India captain Sourav Ganguly, the bitter fallout with former coach Greg Chappell is something that he still finds difficult to forget.

Looking back at his selection fiasco in the Greg Chappell era, Ganguly has come out openly in a book — “Eleven Gods And A Billion Indians”, the on and off the field story of cricket in India and beyond — authored by cricket historian Boria Majumdar.

Published by Simon & Schuster, the 500-page book will be launched during the Indian Premier League and it would contain a lot of nuggets about the off-field stories of Indian cricket.

“Greg came to me one evening and showed me a team he had picked for the Test match. Some key players were not in his playing XI and I was a little taken aback at what he was trying to do,” Ganguly said recollecting about the turn of events in the build up to first Test against Zimbabwe in Bulawayo in September 2005.

At a time when Chappell assumed charge as head coach in July 2005, Ganguly was serving a six-match ban imposed on him in March 2005 for slow over rate as Rahul Dravid was interim captain and it was for the Zimbabwe tour in September 2005 that Ganguly was once again given back the reins.

“Something from the very start of the tour was not right. I don’t know what had happened but something definitely had gone amiss.

“I think some people who Greg had become close to may have told him that with me around, he would never have his way in Indian cricket and that may have triggered a reaction.

“Whatever it may have been, he was not the same Chappell in Zimbabwe compared to the one who had helped me get ready for the Australian tour in December 2003,” Ganguly went on about the tumultuous relationship.

Ganguly admitted that he rejected suggestions given by Chappell.

“I rejected his suggestions and said to him clearly that the people he wanted out had done great things for Indian cricket while he had just been there for three months. He needed to spend more time to fully understand the situation before he started taking tough calls. He, it was clear to me, was in a hurry to make the team ‘Greg Chappell’s team’.”


The first cracks

Their differences, Ganguly revealed, started with a side game in Zimbabwe against the Zimbabwe A team when the skipper was hurting from a tennis elbow as he the left-hander “retired hurt” to nurse the injury as it was an inconsequential match.

“Greg wasn’t around in the dressing room when I had retired hurt and it was only after a while that he came back to ask what had happened to me. I said I had a painful elbow and with a Test match coming up did not want to risk playing on. He was unrelenting.

“To my surprise, he insisted I go out and bat and I was forced to tell him I wouldn’t because I was in good touch and did not want to jeopardise my chances of playing the Test match. I even said that the pain notwithstanding, I was sure to turn up for the Test.”

The chapter also mentions about the email leak in which Chappell talked at length about the match and how Ganguly was “spasmodic in his treatment habits”.

Ganguly however said the discussion was never restricted to him or his place in the Test team. Ganguly went on to hit a 101 in the first Test batting for nearly six hours.

“Soon after I was back in the dressing room and was icing my elbow did Greg come and ask me if I had any pain. I said to him how does it matter for I had just scored a hundred. With or without pain, I had done a job for India,” Ganguly said.


“Lazy” Ganguly

Ganguly also mentioned how Chappell literally shouted at him one day as he was dosing off and termed him “lazy” that was leading to India’s suffering.

Ganguly then has said about his ouster for the ODI series against Sri Lanka on grounds of his “elbow injury”.

“I called Greg to ask why I had not been picked and was told I had to first prove my fitness and only then could I make a comeback to the team. He said I had missed the Challenger Series and he was not clear if I was fully fit.

“It was surprising because the Challenger had never been looked upon as a selection trial. I had scored more ODI runs than anyone in the team in the last few years and it was a shock to see my name not in the team. It was the first time I felt Greg was trying to end my career.”

In between January and December 2006, Ganguly lost his place in the national side. He made his comeback in the South Africa tour of 2006-07, and remained one of the mainstays of the side till his retirement in 2008.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/...-greg-chappell-tried-to-end-his-career-680928
 
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