There's no more excuse that IPL didn't help India win a World T20 championship

[RidiculousMan]

IPL is a world recognizable event and the exposure and revenue it generates for Indian players is staggering.

Ever since IPL India has been becoming better as a team. Today the excuse that IPL is not good for Indian Cricket as India haven't won a World Cup since IPL's inauguration is buried.

They reached the Final of last ODI World Cup after being unbeaten but were unlucky they couldn't perform at their best in the Final. They yet again remained unbeaten in this year's 2024 WT20 and remained unbeaten. This time they did being their A game and got the trophy they thoroughly deserve.

In my view it is only about time before India gets another 50 overs World Cup Trophy and another 20 overs World Cup Trophy.

IPL has played a big part in this.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India topped the table winning 7 out of 9 matches in 2019 world cup with 1 no result just 1 loss
India topped the table in their group by winning 6 out of 6 in 2015 world cup


They have been consistently good. Either toss or rain was screwing up India. But problem with India was always tailender batting. After year and years they elongated the batting line up to 8. Things fell in place. If South Africa had better tail instead of 5 tailenders (with due respect to Jansen) they could have won it.

 

[JaDed]

More than us it has helped Saffers and Afghans

 

[Mp812]

That catch by Surya in T20 2024 world cup final....Credit has to go IPL where such catches are practiced and taken almost every game

 

[oatmeal]

India topped the table winning 7 out of 9 matches in 2019 world cup with 1 no result just 1 loss
India topped the table in their group by winning 6 out of 6 in 2015 world cup


They have been consistently good. Either toss or rain was screwing up India. But problem with India was always tailender batting. After year and years they elongated the batting line up to 8. Things fell in place. If South Africa had better tail instead of 5 tailenders (with due respect to Jansen) they could have won it.

2019 , India werent that great. The wins were built on a house of cards with a very poor middle order and Dhoni past his prime. The first game they were tested, they failed.

But 2023 , India should have won, they just ran into a mentally very tough side.

This tournament was the difference where the middle order was contributing and India were winning because of middle order

 

[Mesozoic]

What nonsense!


India won inspite of the IPL..not because of it.

 

[deltexas]

What ipl does is puts players in pressure situations again and again. And bumrah and pandya delivered. But still surprised SA couldn't get 26 in 26 with 6 wickets. Jansen though never inspired confidence even in ipl. SA surely panicked. Ind kept their head- that was the difference. And the catch by sky- just wow such a pressure catch !

 

[jnaveen1980]

2019 , India werent that great. The wins were built on a house of cards with a very poor middle order and Dhoni past his prime. The first game they were tested, they failed.

But 2023 , India should have won, they just ran into a mentally very tough side.

This tournament was the difference where the middle order was contributing and India were winning because of middle order

More to do with Rayudu confusion. Otherwise India had a good team to win the whole thing.

 

[jnaveen1980]

What ipl does is puts players in pressure situations again and again. And bumrah and pandya delivered. But still surprised SA couldn't get 26 in 26 with 6 wickets. Jansen though never inspired confidence even in ipl. SA surely panicked. Ind kept their head- that was the difference. And the catch by sky- just wow such a pressure catch !

When you are up against Bumrah in such situations anybody will be nervous unless there is prodigious amount of dew. If India had scored 241 in a day game against Australia they would have won that too.

 

[Monday Morning]

IPL helps. Just look at Afghanistan. They had more players in the IPL than the rest of Asia combined and the results are there for all to see.

 

[Kriketer]

Last time India won was before IPL and since then nothing in T20 and it was 17 years ago, so no that's not it. There are competitive T20 leagues in all other countries as well. India had a solid batting for decades, actually much better and stronger back in those days so was just a matter of time to have good solid bowlers so it has worked well in all 3 formats

 

[rhony]

Thanks to IPL India can probably field 2 teams in every competition. It's quite possible both teams would lose in the semi finals. So IPL created depth in Indian cricket and willnput players in pressure situations. Winning the tournament needs an element of luck like toss or pitch or a great catch. Anyway, we will see the next gen of Indian T20 players very soon.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

IPL is a world recognizable event and the exposure and revenue it generates for Indian players is staggering.

Ever since IPL India has been becoming better as a team. Today the excuse that IPL is not good for Indian Cricket as India haven't won a World Cup since IPL's inauguration is buried.

They reached the Final of last ODI World Cup after being unbeaten but were unlucky they couldn't perform at their best in the Final. They yet again remained unbeaten in this year's 2024 WT20 and remained unbeaten. This time they did being their A game and got the trophy they thoroughly deserve.

In my view it is only about time before India gets another 50 overs World Cup Trophy and another 20 overs World Cup Trophy.

IPL has played a big part in this.

IPL helped in keeping Test Cricket alive in India. Huge chunk of money is spent on domestic 4-5 days matches, stadiums and A tours. That is the most important contribution.

 

[Sir Alex]

IPL helps. Just look at Afghanistan. They had more players in the IPL than the rest of Asia combined and the results are there for all to see.

So true.
SL struggling to land a player or 2 in IPL and that shows in their lackluster performance as well.

 

[Sir Alex]

IPL helped in keeping Test Cricket alive in India. Huge chunk of money is spent on domestic 4-5 days matches, stadiums and A tours. That is the most important contribution.

Plus also acts as mental litmus test for young test cricketers too. Has enabled India to pull off some real upsets with B and C teams in that format vs likes of Aus and Eng

 

[Savak]

IPL has definately uplifted the skills, pressure management, fitness, game awareness, cricketing and strategy iq of the Indian players.

 

[Savak]

What ipl does is puts players in pressure situations again and again. And bumrah and pandya delivered. But still surprised SA couldn't get 26 in 26 with 6 wickets. Jansen though never inspired confidence even in ipl. SA surely panicked. Ind kept their head- that was the difference. And the catch by sky- just wow such a pressure catch !

Bhumra is a master in these situations. He knows how to bowl dots and wicket taking deliveries and all of a sudden the equation turns to 20 runs of 10-12 deliveries.

If India had Bhumra in the 2022 T20 WC, they would have won. He is the decisive weapon in their armory and puts fear in the opposition

 

[jnaveen1980]

IPL has definately uplifted the skills, pressure management, fitness, game awareness, cricketing and strategy iq of the Indian players.

Bumrah has been in this situation several times. Most recent one i can think of IPL final 2019. Malinga was thrashed for 3 overs. He conceded 42 runs in 3 overs thrashed by Shane watson. Bumrah in all the pressure had a spell of 4-1-14-2 bowling an incredible 19th over.

 

[sweep_shot]

Would be interesting to see if India can continue their domination without Rohit and Kohli. Once Bumrah leaves, I have a feeling they may not be as dominating.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Would be interesting to see if India can continue their domination without Rohit and Kohli. Once Bumrah leaves, I have a feeling they may not be as dominating.

That is your hope isn't it. We will find more players in the system.

 

[jnaveen1980]

That is your hope isn't it. We will find more players in the system.

If anything they will be way stronger with so many lefties and multi skilled players coming through.

 

[sweep_shot]

That is your hope isn't it. We will find more players in the system.

That's not my hope. LOL. It is just what I expect to happen.

Bumrah is a once in a generation bowler. I doubt he can be replaced easily.

Without Bumrah and Kohli, India probably would've lost today.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

That's not my hope. LOL. It is just what I expect to happen.

Bumrah is a once in a generation bowler. I doubt he can be replaced easily.

Without Bumrah and Kohli, India probably would've lost today.

Greats are hard to replace.
The best thing about this win is that it was a combined team effort with led by masterclass of Bumrah.
But understand this for his brilliance, if Arshdeep, Kuldeep, Axar had not held and delivered all through the tournament, opposition could have handled him.
Final 5 overs by Pandya, Bumrah and Arshdeep plus the catch by SKY, everything was needed for the game. This was one of the most complete team performance by India maybe 2023 world cup was better but this has healed a billion hearts.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Greats are hard to replace.
The best thing about this win is that it was a combined team effort with led by masterclass of Bumrah.
But understand this for his brilliance, if Arshdeep, Kuldeep, Axar had not held and delivered all through the tournament, opposition could have handled him.
Final 5 overs by Pandya, Bumrah and Arshdeep plus the catch by SKY, everything was needed for the game. This was one of the most complete team performance by India maybe 2023 world cup was better but this has healed a billion hearts.

Harshit Rana should have been picked ahead of Arshdeep. But arshdeep proved us wrong. Then we can groom Mayank Yadav. Now that they have fast bowling contract introduced and high performance program i expect India to get stronger even more professsional in the coming years.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

That's not my hope. LOL. It is just what I expect to happen.

Bumrah is a once in a generation bowler. I doubt he can be replaced easily.

Without Bumrah and Kohli, India probably would've lost today.

We won 3 WC and Champion trophies.. numerous Asia cups and World series etc without these two players.
They come from a system and system will produce more such players. Watch out.

 

[Savak]

Would be interesting to see if India can continue their domination without Rohit and Kohli. Once Bumrah leaves, I have a feeling they may not be as dominating.

Kohli has left a powerful example and impact. Many Indian domestic, IPL players are following his work ethic and fitness regime.

Pakistani players in comparison are following their captain in hitting maximum boufets as possible

 

[RidiculousMan]

IPL helped in keeping Test Cricket alive in India. Huge chunk of money is spent on domestic 4-5 days matches, stadiums and A tours. That is the most important contribution.

Definitely. Without IPL India wouldn't have generated so much money that they are using to pump into their infrastructure and domestic Cricket.

 

[gani999]

What nonsense!


India won inspite of the IPL..not because of it.

India won because of its very competitive and intense first class structure, its ample talent and how it is nurtured. Even the BCCI is now rightfully insisting that players should prioritize first class cricket over IPL if they ever want to wear the India jersey. And that's how it should be.

 

[Sir Alex]

India won because of its very competitive and intense first class structure, its ample talent and how it is nurtured. Even the BCCI is now rightfully insisting that players should prioritize first class cricket over IPL if they ever want to wear the India jersey. And that's how it should be.

Yes , this.

The system and BCCI have it's flaws but overall it functions independently and is apolitical when it comes to cricketing operations.

You can't expect to be selected just because you happen to be someone's relative or son. Only those who have proven themselves in the rigorous run up to national selection can expect to earn a call up.

This was not the case pre IPL and hence we had strange cases like Stuart Binny and all. But those have largely disappeared and even likes of Dube have proven themselves in the fire of IPL.

Shah junior may be perceived as political appointment and yes he might have done things that will benefit Modi and Co but that has never had any impact on actual selections of players and coaching staff. Also, someone like Rajiv Shukla , a long standing congress man continues to hold a plum and influential post in the BCCI indicates that the leadership isn't skewed politically.

This kind of a setup fosters healthy but extreme competition for players to reach national level. And the Board takes strictest action on those who steps out of line and try to act over smart. Hardik Pandya for example tried to do that during IPL and his Mumbai Indians overtures and BCCI immediately stepped in and made course corrections. Resulted in Pandya ignominously losing his cap to Rohit Sharma and now looking v unlikely to gain it back.