This is what happens when Imam-ul-Haq doesn't get a 85 S/R ton at the top

[boomboomcheema]

Fans complain about Imam batting slowly and Pakistan only managing a score of about 300 runs when they should have got 350 runs, according to fans if he batted faster.

But look at today, Imam gets for a cheap score and Pakistan innings is in trouble and might get only a 260-275 average score here, not the 340-350 the fans expect to get.

A stable innings by Imam at the top makes sure that one end remains secured and at the other end runs keep coming, thus allowing the other batters to bat at a Faster Rate.

To those who complain about Imam having the lowest S/R in the team when he gets a big score, kindly look at the S/R of other members of the team today.

 

[Shandarchowka]

Agreed 100%. Imam is a necessary evil at the top for our line up. Others feed off the confidence and score.

 

[xricket]

LMAO. Imam can't negotiate swing & bounce properly, unlike Shan but since he gets nephew points, thats why shan needs to bats at 3, and need to get in place of Imad.

 

[Banter]

Karmic justice for dabbing on the haterz. /s

 

[CricketDon]

This is such a bad mentality and why we are minnows and nobodies in cricket.


If England had this mentality, they would still have a top order of, cook, bell, trott. Could you imagine that top order in today’s era.

England instead of doing the same thing over and over trying to find guys who score at snail speed and don’t rotate the strike, decided too discard the dead wood and build an entire new young team. Now they have the likes of

Roy
Hales
Butler
Root
Stokes
Woakes
Ali
Morgan
Curran


The list goes on

 

[Shandarchowka]

This is such a bad mentality and why we are minnows and nobodies in cricket.


If England had this mentality, they would still have a top order of, cook, bell, trott. Could you imagine that top order in today’s era.

England instead of doing the same thing over and over trying to find guys who score at snail speed and don’t rotate the strike, decided too discard the dead wood and build an entire new young team. Now they have the likes of

Roy
Hales
Butler
Root
Stokes
Woakes
Ali
Morgan
Curran


The list goes on

Apart from Babar and Fakhar, can you name ONE batsman from Pakistan who play at such tempo?

 

[Gullycricket]

This is such a bad mentality and why we are minnows and nobodies in cricket.


If England had this mentality, they would still have a top order of, cook, bell, trott. Could you imagine that top order in today’s era.

England instead of doing the same thing over and over trying to find guys who score at snail speed and don’t rotate the strike, decided too discard the dead wood and build an entire new young team. Now they have the likes of

Roy
Hales
Butler
Root
Stokes
Woakes
Ali
Morgan
Curran


The list goes on

Ok tell me who is your Roy,Hales,Butler,Morgan in Pakistan.

 

[SM1989]

This is such a bad mentality and why we are minnows and nobodies in cricket.


If England had this mentality, they would still have a top order of, cook, bell, trott. Could you imagine that top order in today’s era.

England instead of doing the same thing over and over trying to find guys who score at snail speed and don’t rotate the strike, decided too discard the dead wood and build an entire new young team. Now they have the likes of

Roy
Hales
Butler
Root
Stokes
Woakes
Ali
Morgan
Curran


The list goes on

Did this aggressive line up win England the Champions Trophy?

No it did not.

 

[Chokli]

pakistan was lucky to get 300 in the first place, blaming imam for not getting them to 350.

imam gets out early today and you're barely making 200.........

 

[CricketDon]

Did this aggressive line up win England the Champions Trophy?

No it did not.

Such. Minnow mentality. “We won 4 games in a row and now we are the best” England alongside India has been the best OdI side since 2015. Pakistan on the other hand Barry beats Afghanistan. Oh wait...

Surprised you ain’t bought up 1992 as an argument yet.

 

[CricketDon]

Ok tell me who is your Roy,Hales,Butler,Morgan in Pakistan.

SMe logic wasim used when asked about replacing seniors and current crop. It’s simple, we take the best we have and give them the opportunity.

But Pakistan seems to want to continue with Einstein’s definition of insanity.

 

[CricketDon]

Apart from Babar and Fakhar, can you name ONE batsman from Pakistan who play at such tempo?

Give the ones who can play the closest to it and give them the opportunity to prove themselves. It’s not hard for gods sake.

 

[SM1989]

Such. Minnow mentality. “We won 4 games in a row and now we are the best” England alongside India has been the best OdI side since 2015. Pakistan on the other hand Barry beats Afghanistan. Oh wait...

Surprised you ain’t bought up 1992 as an argument yet.

Rankings are useless if you don't end up winning the big ones.

 

[CricketDon]

Rankings are useless if you don't end up winning the big ones.

Oh boy...

By your logic Pakistan is best team in the world since champions trophy because they won it and all their loses to the top sides don’t matter. All the other sides top wins and hammering of Pakistan don’t matter because Pakistan won the champions trophy. The next big event is in 2019 and whoever wins that gets the free pass Pakistan has...

 

[srh]

Fans complain about Imam batting slowly and Pakistan only managing a score of about 300 runs when they should have got 350 runs, according to fans if he batted faster.

But look at today, Imam gets for a cheap score and Pakistan innings is in trouble and might get only a 260-275 average score here, not the 340-350 the fans expect to get.

A stable innings by Imam at the top makes sure that one end remains secured and at the other end runs keep coming, thus allowing the other batters to bat at a Faster Rate.

To those who complain about Imam having the lowest S/R in the team when he gets a big score, kindly look at the S/R of other members of the team today.

so wrong; Imam is the worst ODI batsman of this lot;

 

[SM1989]

Oh boy...

By your logic Pakistan is best team in the world since champions trophy because they won it and all their loses to the top sides don’t matter. All the other sides top wins and hammering of Pakistan don’t matter because Pakistan won the champions trophy. The next big event is in 2019 and whoever wins that gets the free pass Pakistan has...

No Pakistan are not the best team in the world.

But winning a big tournament is a bigger achievement than winning useless bilaterals.

 

[CricketDon]

No Pakistan are not the best team in the world.

But winning a big tournament is a bigger achievement than winning useless bilaterals.

Yes it was an achievement. It stops there. That’s it. They won and things move on. Since then they have been the worst. Just like before the win.

 

[Hawkeye]

Imam is the calming (and 100 scoring) influence that a minnow-level batting team like Pak needs.

Without his high scores we would struggle to reach 200.

No better option.

 

[Chokli]

Imam is the calming (and 100 scoring) influence that a minnow-level batting team like Pak needs.

Without his high scores we would struggle to reach 200.

No better option.

at first i thought you said imad,

 

[CricketAnalyst]

Apart from Babar and Fakhar, can you name ONE batsman from Pakistan who play at such tempo?

Babar can't.

Lumping in him with Fakhar is absurd.

He is as slow/fast as Imam. People who are ok with one but not the other are blind. Two batsmen, same role.

 

[Shandarchowka]

Babar can't.

Lumping in him with Fakhar is absurd.

He is as slow/fast as Imam. People who are ok with one but not the other are blind. Two batsmen, same role.

Babar is very similar to Root.

 

[MeanAndGreen]

Babar can't.

Lumping in him with Fakhar is absurd.

He is as slow/fast as Imam. People who are ok with one but not the other are blind. Two batsmen, same role.

Babar has consistently played at a better SR than Fakhar throughout the entire tour without breaking a sweat whereas Fakhar has been hacking left right and centre.

Not to mention he is a comfortably superior player to Imam. Don't just glance over their stats and make a judgement, watch them play and you will see a huge difference.

 

[MeanAndGreen]

The only way you can slog from the get-go is if you have proper batsmen down to No. 10, which only England have.

India build the innings risk free at a solid tempo. This is what we did in all the matches that we have batted well in so far this tour. Didn't require anything extravagant, just solid, high percentage batting at a good tempo.

This obsession with SR is ridiculous. There are 50 overs to bat. AUS tried the SR formula and theres a reason why they have won only a handful of ODI matches in over 2 years.

Imam and Babar have done their job throughout this series. Fakhar shouldve kicked on and his pathetic dismissal along with Hafeez - who is a No.6/7 batsman batting at 4 - is the reason we have lost this game. Once you are 140-4 or 150-5, it doesn't matter how good your run rate is, you are asking too much of your lower order 9 times out of 10. Had they kept wickets in hand and read the situation, we could've had 270 + on the board comfortably.

 

[Savak]

I find it shocking that a country not blessed with a lot of batting talent is complaining about players who actually score and find it even shocking when a player is criticized for having a SR of 85 at the top when these same people oogled over Misbah's impactless 50's scored at a SR of 60-70

 

[topspin]

Imam isn't ideal but it's hard to drop him because those competing for his spot are even worse and also I would like to see Shan Masood given a go at number 4.

What I will say is Imam is worse than any of the openers you find from SENAI. I rate him 6 out of 10.

His knocks in this series were meaningless, bowlers had ensured Pakistan had it in the bag in the last ODI. His ton in the game before was a sedate and selfish knock. No excuse to face over 110 balls without a SR of a minimum 100.

He won't win Pakistan many matches but we should look to discard him as soon as Sharjeel proves form and fitness in 2020. Imam is a valid short term option.

 

[Khwaja78]

Hehehehe
Did'nt mention how many drop chances he gives before he reaches an 85 SR 100 rofl. And was'nt he playing today?

If South African bowl with discipline like kiwis pitching him short he wont survive 8.5 minutes on the crease.

Fakhar played slowbut till stay Pakistn was 4.5 RR. If selfish Imam would be there he would never hit a bowl after 15 overs just nudging singles. He has made cricket boringalso most prefer not watching him or Babar bat. Both are awful.

 

[Shaka81]

The problem with Imam's critics is that they deal in hypothetical runs not real life performances. They always say look beyond the stats and get attracted to players who look good as opposed to players who actually perform. It's always drop the guy who is effective and replace him with the theoretical runs of someone who looks good until he throws it away!
Pakistan needs someone to play the anchor role for the other players to bat around or scores like today happen.

 

[superman]

LMAO. Imam can't negotiate swing & bounce properly, unlike Shan but since he gets nephew points, thats why shan needs to bats at 3, and need to get in place of Imad.

Lol you have the audacity to hint nepotism and use shan masood as an example.

Imam has been a great find for us nephew or not and he has played well against everyone he has played against. Shan has only had 1 series of playing well not several and everyone knows how he first got into the team.

 

[xricket]

Lol you have the audacity to hint nepotism and use shan masood as an example.

Imam has been a great find for us nephew or not and he has played well against everyone he has played against. Shan has only had 1 series of playing well not several and everyone knows how he first got into the team.

Shan played it, when it mattered. Everyone can play in UAE

 

[K4Kohli]

Imam, Fakhar and Babar are ur bestbatsmen.

 

[IndianHero]

first of all , it's not easy to bat here & all
asian teams travel every 4 to 5 years to SENA countries so it's really difficult for batmen to adjust ..

see in asian conditions batsman most of the time use front foot for 80% of deliveries now tell me how will a batsman adjust all of sudden to back foot ??

 

[CricFan2012]

This is such a bad mentality and why we are minnows and nobodies in cricket.


If England had this mentality, they would still have a top order of, cook, bell, trott. Could you imagine that top order in today’s era.

England instead of doing the same thing over and over trying to find guys who score at snail speed and don’t rotate the strike, decided too discard the dead wood and build an entire new young team. Now they have the likes of

Roy
Hales
Butler
Root
Stokes
Woakes
Ali
Morgan
Curran


The list goes on

Exactly what I have been saying for a while

 

[superman]

Shan played it, when it mattered. Everyone can play in UAE

1 series, he failed in uae before this. Imam has played well in the ODI’s as well

 

[hadi123]

Exactly. I've noticed how he either tends to play a good innings or gets out in single figures. Whenever he gets past 15 I just know he will stick as he puts high value on his wicket. If he had got a start today, he would have capitalized on it most likely and we could have laid a solid platform. He's an important player and don't understand the hate he gets.

 

[Rana]

Ok tell me who is your Roy,Hales,Butler,Morgan in Pakistan.

You dont have them but that doesn't mean you cannot try and replicate them

I would back Talat Hussain to go out there at the top and treat ODI's like a T20, he will produce a run a ball performances. I would also back Bilal Asif (big hitter from Islamabad united) and Umar Akmal to also have a go, put the foot on the gas in the power play.

You have guys who can do things, you just need the right kind of people to guide them and trying to do it.

 

[Chokli]

You dont have them but that doesn't mean you cannot try and replicate them

I would back Talat Hussain to go out there at the top and treat ODI's like a T20, he will produce a run a ball performances. I would also back Bilal Asif (big hitter from Islamabad united) and Umar Akmal to also have a go, put the foot on the gas in the power play.

You have guys who can do things, you just need the right kind of people to guide them and trying to do it.

all of this only sounds good in theory.

 

[Rana]

all of this only sounds good in theory.

It all sounded great in Theory for England as well. But they went ahead and actually made it happen. You have to scrap and start again after the WC. I assure you a coach like Bayliss would do exactly as I am suggesting. They will back these flamboyant players

 

[Syed1]

Well who stopped him from playing well today?

 

[Joseph Gomes]

This is such a bad mentality and why we are minnows and nobodies in cricket.


If England had this mentality, they would still have a top order of, cook, bell, trott. Could you imagine that top order in today’s era.

England instead of doing the same thing over and over trying to find guys who score at snail speed and don’t rotate the strike, decided too discard the dead wood and build an entire new young team. Now they have the likes of

Roy
Hales
Butler
Root
Stokes
Woakes
Ali
Morgan
Curran


The list goes on

England has a better batting lineup than India, and India has the greatest top order in ODI history. Keep your expectations low, no team in ODI history can match England on pancake pitches.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Imam is such a world class talent everything rests on his shoulders if pakistan are to score big.

 

[Hasan123]

I do like Imam but our fanbase need to get out of this mentality where scoring at a low strike rate is a good thing. The best ODI team in the world right now which is England always play positive cricket by putting the loose balls away and rotating the strike. We shouldn't be happy with players going at a strike rate of 80 after facing a 100 balls.

 

[Ahson8]

I do like Imam but our fanbase need to get out of this mentality where scoring at a low strike rate is a good thing. The best ODI team in the world right now which is England always play positive cricket by putting the loose balls away and rotating the strike. We shouldn't be happy with players going at a strike rate of 80 after facing a 100 balls.

We are not England, we don't have guys like Hales or Roy, this is the way we've always scored our runs

 

[Hasan123]

We are not England, we don't have guys like Hales or Roy, this is the way we've always scored our runs

And it won't take us anywhere. 260s/270s isn't enough in modern day LO.

 

[iPakistani]

Such. Minnow mentality. “We won 4 games in a row and now we are the best” England alongside India has been the best OdI side since 2015. Pakistan on the other hand Barry beats Afghanistan. Oh wait...

Surprised you ain’t bought up 1992 as an argument yet.

To be honest we beat Afghanistan, India was the one that tied with Afghanistan lmao.

 

[MeanAndGreen]

Hehehehe
Did'nt mention how many drop chances he gives before he reaches an 85 SR 100 rofl. And was'nt he playing today?

If South African bowl with discipline like kiwis pitching him short he wont survive 8.5 minutes on the crease.

Fakhar played slowbut till stay Pakistn was 4.5 RR. If selfish Imam would be there he would never hit a bowl after 15 overs just nudging singles. He has made cricket boringalso most prefer not watching him or Babar bat. Both are awful.

I'll tell you who's selfish.


The guy who looked downright club level the entire tour and somehow ran his lack to get to 70 today, yet still couldn't bat through the innings for his team. Threw his wicket away at a crucial juncture in the game, where even a 12 year old would have better game sense.

This isn't T20 cricket. no wonder we've been blessed with cricketers like Afridi and Akmal for a whole generation.

 

[Gullycricket]

You dont have them but that doesn't mean you cannot try and replicate them

I would back Talat Hussain to go out there at the top and treat ODI's like a T20, he will produce a run a ball performances. I would also back Bilal Asif (big hitter from Islamabad united) and Umar Akmal to also have a go, put the foot on the gas in the power play.

You have guys who can do things, you just need the right kind of people to guide them and trying to do it.

Husain Talat was so poor last time I saw him.See his T20 international record and you want him to play ODI's.Umar Akmal we all know how he will fare.My point is I see none of these players batting till the end and scoring a 100.Tell me you have Windies with such destructive players but they are able to do jack in ODI cricket because they score those pretty 30's which are just not enough.Similar case why Aussies are struggling in ODI's due to their insistence on playing BBL hacks

 

[Chokli]

It all sounded great in Theory for England as well. But they went ahead and actually made it happen. You have to scrap and start again after the WC. I assure you a coach like Bayliss would do exactly as I am suggesting. They will back these flamboyant players

england and pakistan cricket are completely different.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Well who stopped him from playing well today?

no body can score 100 in every match