Time to purge out players who only prefer white-ball cricket from Pakistan?

[Rana]

I think this is the ideal opportunity and will not cause a serious uproar/backlash. West Indies have defeated Australia with a young team of players, and Shamar Joseph’s 7fer in the win has drawn serious heat towards Harris Rauf for not obliging to the call of his country when needed in Test cricket.

Similarly, Shadab Khan’s magical fitness standards when it comes to being available for white ball cricket and not available for red ball/4 day cricket is enough evidence that the priorities are totally wrong.

Shaheen Afridi being too tired for a 3rd Test match, but subsequently fit for 5 T20is and 2 more T20s since in the ILT20

Babar Azam offered to keep the red ball/Test captaincy but stripped from the white ball leadership roles because of poor performances in ICC tournament…the man refuses captaincy and wanted to skip the Test series down under…a series that defines the greatness of players

I think Pakistan can now use the momentum gained by the West Indies win down under for their avail and make some serious, tough but important decisions for their cricket now. I wrote somewhere else,

“If the dream is to only play white ball cricket for Pakistan, then sorry you do not deserve to have a dream”.

 

[Major]

You cant do such purges, if the player has retired from a format.

Remember, west indies has alot of players that dont play test cricket and prefer odi.

My issue with Shadab khan isnt that he doesnt play test cricket. Its that he should play first class to improve himself for white ball cricket.

We allowed Afridi to retire from Test back in 2010.

My POV is that, if you have not retired from a format, you cant say NO to selector. If you want to say no to a particular format than retire from that format.

Haris Rauf should call retirement from Test.

 

[FearlessRoar]

In my opinion, players should only be eligible for central contracts if they actively engage in First-class and Test cricket. That's it

 

[FearlessRoar]

It is because Test cricket is a competition in itself, and leagues in cricket are happening around the world; different leagues have different fans.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1751567449189990803

 

[Spitfire]

I think this is the ideal opportunity and will not cause a serious uproar/backlash. West Indies have defeated Australia with a young team of players, and Shamar Joseph’s 7fer in the win has drawn serious heat towards Harris Rauf for not obliging to the call of his country when needed in Test cricket.

Similarly, Shadab Khan’s magical fitness standards when it comes to being available for white ball cricket and not available for red ball/4 day cricket is enough evidence that the priorities are totally wrong.

Shaheen Afridi being too tired for a 3rd Test match, but subsequently fit for 5 T20is and 2 more T20s since in the ILT20

Babar Azam offered to keep the red ball/Test captaincy but stripped from the white ball leadership roles because of poor performances in ICC tournament…the man refuses captaincy and wanted to skip the Test series down under…a series that defines the greatness of players

I think Pakistan can now use the momentum gained by the West Indies win down under for their avail and make some serious, tough but important decisions for their cricket now. I wrote somewhere else,

“If the dream is to only play white ball cricket for Pakistan, then sorry you do not deserve to have a dream”.

Right said Rana...

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

The WI win just shows how pathetic Pakistani cricket has become with their low standards and how comfortably they handle whitewashes.

 

[zaidihusain]

The WI win just shows how pathetic Pakistani cricket has become with their low standards and how comfortably they handle whitewashes.

Bang won test match in NZ, Sri Lanka defeated SA in SA by 2-0 in 2019 and now WI winning a test match in Aus. Pakistan even loses at home miserably, failed to win single game in last 8 tests played at home

 

[NeVerMind]

Aur khelo PSL...useless tournament....done more damage than good...

 

[Buffet]

I think this is the ideal opportunity and will not cause a serious uproar/backlash. West Indies have defeated Australia with a young team of players, and Shamar Joseph’s 7fer in the win has drawn serious heat towards Harris Rauf for not obliging to the call of his country when needed in Test cricket.

Similarly, Shadab Khan’s magical fitness standards when it comes to being available for white ball cricket and not available for red ball/4 day cricket is enough evidence that the priorities are totally wrong.

Shaheen Afridi being too tired for a 3rd Test match, but subsequently fit for 5 T20is and 2 more T20s since in the ILT20

Babar Azam offered to keep the red ball/Test captaincy but stripped from the white ball leadership roles because of poor performances in ICC tournament…the man refuses captaincy and wanted to skip the Test series down under…a series that defines the greatness of players

I think Pakistan can now use the momentum gained by the West Indies win down under for their avail and make some serious, tough but important decisions for their cricket now. I wrote somewhere else,

“If the dream is to only play white ball cricket for Pakistan, then sorry you do not deserve to have a dream”.

Source for this?

 

[Justcrazy]

Pakistan has regressed a lot , it cannot be denied any longer

 

[Rana]

Source for this?

My own imagination

I made all this up

 

[160KPH]

I think we should do the exact opposite and separate T20 players far away from the Test format.

Similarly, Shadab Khan’s magical fitness standards when it comes to being available for white ball cricket and not available for red ball/4 day cricket is enough evidence that the priorities are totally wrong.

Shadab Khan should never be selected for Test cricket because he struggles to even bowl well in ODI cricket. He succeeds in T20s based upon an entirely different skill set to that which is required in Test cricket.

Shaheen Afridi being too tired for a 3rd Test match, but subsequently fit for 5 T20is and 2 more T20s since in the ILT20

Shaheen Shah wanted to play the 3rd Test but was rested by the team management. I think it was the wrong decision, but it was not Shaheen's choice to rest. Team management probably wanted him to rest up for his first T20 series as captain.

Babar Azam offered to keep the red ball/Test captaincy but stripped from the white ball leadership roles because of poor performances in ICC tournament…the man refuses captaincy and wanted to skip the Test series down under…a series that defines the greatness of players

He did not want to skip the Test series down under. He just did not want to remain captain of only one format while being stripped of captaincy in the other formats. Those are two completely different things.

“If the dream is to only play white ball cricket for Pakistan, then sorry you do not deserve to have a dream”.

England just won a Test match in India against India. They also won the previous T20 World Cup. Only one member of the winning XI of the T20 World Cup is in the current Test squad and that's Ben Stokes.


Pakistan trying to turn players into all format players when they do not have the skill to thrive in various formats would be a horrible thing, not a good one. Wahab was desperate to have Rauf play in Australia, but he struggles toe even get his line and length right in ODI recently, he would have gotten absolutely destroyed in Australia. Mir Hamza played good for us in the Test series in Australia, but his T20 record is absolutely horrible compared to his FC record.

Pakistan should select players who are good at T20 for their T20 squad and players who are good at Test cricket for the Test squad. It is rare to find players who can thrive across all formats and that applies to both batting and bowling.

 

[160KPH]

Source for this?

Anytime @Rana posts a comment about Babar or Rizwan, 9/10 times there will no evidence for the claim. In his mind, Rizwan and Babar are evil masterminds who are running Pakistani cricket from the shadows and the cause of all of our issues for the last 10 years.

 

[PakEngFan]

Anytime @Rana posts a comment about Babar or Rizwan, 9/10 times there will no evidence for the claim. In his mind, Rizwan and Babar are evil masterminds who are running Pakistani cricket from the shadows and the cause of all of our issues for the last 10 years.

Couldn't have said it any better.

 

[Rana]

Anytime @Rana posts a comment about Babar or Rizwan, 9/10 times there will no evidence for the claim. In his mind, Rizwan and Babar are evil masterminds who are running Pakistani cricket from the shadows and the cause of all of our issues for the last 10 years.

Yes, Rizwan and Babar are not sincere with Pakistan cricket. They are sincere to their agency

 

[pakistani pride]

Players should play 4 day cricket, very simple. Players going to Bangla to play meaningless T20 cricket after getting whitewashed in Aus can stay there!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

There needs to be consistency not just among officials but amongst fans too.

In the eyes of some fans it's ok for amir,imad and azam to skip red ball cricket but not for others.

 

[gazza619]

In my opinion, players should only be eligible for central contracts if they actively engage in First-class and Test cricket. That's it

I would actually go a step ahead and not issue NOC for foreign leagues if a player has not been available for key domestic assignments.

 

[Buffet]

You can have different teams for different formats. Anyway, all players don't have skills to play all formats.

 

[pakistani pride]

You can have different teams for different formats. Anyway, all players don't have skills to play all formats.

Its basics, if you want to improve and actually work on your game, playing 4 day cricket helps. On the other hand you have our so called superstars after getting trashed in AUS and NZ, playing T20 cricket the next day in Bangla leauge.

 

[Major]

There needs to be consistency not just among officials but amongst fans too.

In the eyes of some fans it's ok for amir,imad and azam to skip red ball cricket but not for others.

exactly.

Funny how no such thread when amir quit for money

 

[Savak]

Pakistan's Cricket economy isn't sufficient enough to demand and support exclusivity for 4 day cricket and to play strictly for Pakistan

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

There are more domestic tournaments than ever, more money than ever but the quality of players is the lowest it's ever been? Why?

 

[gibsyhesperis]

There are more domestic tournaments than ever, more money than ever but the quality of players is the lowest it's ever been? Why?

Because players can earn easy money without having to hone their skills.
You can be overweight (Azam), have no heart (Rauf) or be totally out of form (Shadab) and still earn a lot of money in Mickey Mouse leagues.
So our players take the easy route

 

[Cricket Warrior]

We cant do anything until we get our domestic structure right because it's like a factory from where we are getting these players. So we need to work on the production side to get right product.

 

[ahmadharis1]

First need to prioritize domestic performances for selection. Absolute stupidity that players are being selected for test cricket based on PSL and t20 performances. Select 100% of your players from domestics and people who want to be selected will play more 4 day cricket

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

In my opinion, players should only be eligible for central contracts if they actively engage in First-class and Test cricket. That's it

There should be separate contracts for white ball players and Test players.

Not all players are 3 format players so we have to be logical and realistic.

The likes of England and Australia are prime examples.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Its better to increase Test mach fee to make it more appealing. Otherwise with so much league cricket happening around the world every player would avoid playing red-ball cricket to make more money.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Its better to increase Test mach fee to make it more appealing. Otherwise with so much league cricket happening around the world every player would avoid playing red-ball cricket to make more money.

Pakistan barely plays 5 tests in a year so what will they get from even increasing the match fee.

Had they been playing 10-12 tests a year then yes definitely they should be increasing it by all means as that is the purest and hardest format of the game.

Pakistan players focus over the last 5 years has been T20's as they're even playing less ODI cricket which showcases that the players prefer the T20 format for it's less game time and more fun style of cricket.

 

[BouncerGuy]

No player from Pakistan would want to be a red-ball player because Pakistan is just not playing enough matches TBH. Players opt-out for white ball format nowadays because it has more money and they can play more matches and eventually will earn more.

 

[Shaka81]

No player from Pakistan would want to be a red-ball player because Pakistan is just not playing enough matches TBH. Players opt-out for white ball format nowadays because it has more money and they can play more matches and eventually will earn more.

With the added bonus that white ball cricket is generally played in front of crowds while red ball cricket is mostly played in empty stadiums with less general public interest.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Players should be free to pick and choose if they want to play one format or all three. Not everyone is good enough to play test cricket. While some players just have a better skill-set for limited-overs cricket. There are alot of others who just want to make money and maximize opportunities for themselves and they have every right to do that without being emotionally blackmailed for "giving up on their country". If anything, PCB should white-ball and red-ball only central contracts along with the all-format contracts.

 

[mominsaigol]

I disagree on purging, because being good in one format =/= being good in the other, otherwise younis Khan should have been a goat odi player.

 

[sweep_shot]

Don't give NOCs to players who don't want to play FC/Test. Problem solved.