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If the ICC were to ban Pakistan from the WT20 or future tournaments, would you really mind?

Cryin Out Loud said:
So

- Earlier the PCB demanded and got a hybrid model.

- Now the PCB is now refusing to participate fully in the model it had itself demanded.

- The basis for this reversal is nothing more than its desire to protest the rights of a third party, the suddenly ‘brotherly nation of Bangladesh’

- And you’re arguing that the PCB is also wary that in the future the ICC will ignore the concession already made, the practice already established and force Pakistani to travel to India?

Hard to see how the PCB will be successful in the inevitable arbitration process with this line of argument. And that’s putting it politely.
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Can you please show us 1 statement by PCB where they have refused to participate?
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
So

- Earlier the PCB demanded and got a hybrid model.

- Now the PCB is now refusing to participate fully in the model it had itself demanded.

- The basis for this reversal is nothing more than its desire to protest the rights of a third party, the suddenly ‘brotherly nation of Bangladesh’

- And you’re arguing that the PCB is also wary that in the future the ICC will ignore the concession already made, the practice already established and force Pakistani to travel to India?

Hard to see how the PCB will be successful in the inevitable arbitration process with this line of argument. And that’s putting it politely.
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PCB did nt demand hybrid model. BCCI did.

you have weak memory? who refused to travel to Pak? why would pcb demand hybrid model when it was given hosting rights?

Second you failed to address the procedural difference i talked about the way ICC teated bcci and BD on similar stances. You are just sheepishly ignoring that
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
PCB did nt demand hybrid model. BCCI did.

you have weak memory? who refused to travel to Pak? why would pcb demand hybrid model when it was given hosting rights?

Second you failed to address the procedural difference i talked about the way ICC teated bcci and BD on similar stances. You are just sheepishly ignoring that
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None of PCB's business. Even BCB isn't escalating the issue any further, but PCB like always has decided to shoot itself in the foot with this fake bravado, trying to play a hero no one ever asked for. Another egg on Naqvi's face awaits.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
So

- Earlier the PCB demanded and got a hybrid model.

- Now the PCB is now refusing to participate fully in the model it had itself demanded.

- The basis for this reversal is nothing more than its desire to protest the rights of a third party, the suddenly ‘brotherly nation of Bangladesh’

- And you’re arguing that the PCB is also wary that in the future the ICC will ignore the concession already made, the practice already established and force Pakistani to travel to India?

Hard to see how the PCB will be successful in the inevitable arbitration process with this line of argument. And that’s putting it politely.
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Im really amazed how sanghis can twist facts
PCB never wanted hybrid model. It was imposed by ICC because BCCI refused to travel to Pak for CT 2025. ICC made a decision to accomodate BCCI because they were the ones who refused to trave. ICC did nt expell BCCI like they expelled Bangaldesh. PCB refused to travel to India as consequence so ICC made arrangement of Hybrid for Pakistn too. Stop making it sound like Pak wanted Hybrid and got it. it was arranged by ICC because BCCI refused to travel
 
Hikaru said:
None of PCB's business. Even BCB isn't escalating the issue any further, but PCB like always has decided to shoot itself in the foot with this fake bravado, trying to play a hero no one ever asked for. Another egg on Naqvi's face awaits.
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It is PCB's Business. Pakistan got bitter end of the deal . CT 2025 changed to Hybrid. So pcb is rightly asking the question. why different treatment ? Wht did nt PCB get to keep whole of CT 2025 and India Expelled like BD?
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Im really amazed how sanghis can twist facts
PCB never wanted hybrid model. It was imposed by ICC because BCCI refused to travel to Pak for CT 2025. ICC made a decision to accomodate BCCI because they were the ones who refused to trave. ICC did nt expell BCCI like they expelled Bangaldesh. PCB refused to travel to India as consequence so ICC made arrangement of Hybrid for Pakistn too. Stop making it sound like Pak wanted Hybrid and got it. it was arranged by ICC because BCCI refused to travel
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The PCB demanded a hybrid model for itself just like the one given to India. And got it. Which means the PCB got what it wanted, it was given what it wanted.

But yes India got it first. How does that make a difference to the argument? I repeat - the PCB got what it wanted. And then choose to ignore it.

Also what’s with this Sanghi thing? Should I call you a bearded Mulla then?
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
It is PCB's Business. Pakistan got bitter end of the deal . CT 2025 changed to Hybrid. So pcb is rightly asking the question. why different treatment ? Wht did nt PCB get to keep whole of CT 2025 and India Expelled like BD?
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It's not PCB's business ever since it agreed to a more than generous *** for tat arrangement for them.

They have refused to play a member nation protesting on behalf of someone who themselves have accepted the ICC verdict.

Any unbiased person can predict what's gonna happen next. Only question is, how bad will it get for the PCB.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
The PCB demanded a hybrid model for itself just like the one given to India. And got it. Which means the PCB got what it wanted, it was given what it wanted.

But yes India got it first. How does that make a difference to the argument? I repeat - the PCB got what it wanted. And then choose to ignore it.

Also what’s with this Sanghi thing? Should I call you a bearded Mulla then?
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pcb got it what wanted lol

you make no sense

ICC arranged hybrid model for BCCI . so to balance out they gave Lolipop of Hybrid to Pak till 2027 as well. stop making it sound like PCB wish

But Expulsion of BD created new situation. BD did nt get same treatment as BCCI. because like BCCI , BD had security concerns but instead of giving them hybrid , They got expelled . PCB ia pointing out double standards
 
Hikaru said:
It's not PCB's business ever since it agreed to a more than generous *** for tat arrangement for them.

They have refused to play a member nation protesting on behalf of someone who themselves have accepted the ICC verdict.

Any unbiased person can predict what's gonna happen next. Only question is, how bad will it get for the PCB.
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PCB agreed yes but Expulsion of BD exposed double standards where ICC made a procedural change . So it is PCB's Business. Ideally they would have liked the same thing. Deny BCCI neutral venue like it denied to BD
 
Right now the PCB is quivering in their boots and scratching their heads, wondering what to do.. they didn't realise the ICC would go full rambo on them. Any climbdown now will be humiliating for the kooky Mohsin Naqvi.
 
RexRex said:
Right now the PCB is quivering in their boots and scratching their heads, wondering what to do.. they didn't realise the ICC would go full rambo on them. Any climbdown now will be humiliating for the kooky Mohsin Naqvi.
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What’s going full Rambo?

What have the ICC done?
 
Well Cricinfo has scored a coup and got itself a copy of the confidential MPA and had it reviewed by a couple of fancy lawyers. Key points

- Yes government instructions are specifically included in the 'Force Majeure' clause. So the PCB does have cover
- There is however a grey area on whether the PSB can be considered legally separate from the Pakistan government since the government nominates the Chairman
- There is also a gray area on whether such a partial Force Majeure would apply - just one game etc.
- If the ICC determines that a partial Force Majeure is not applicable, they do have the rights to suspend or even terminate membership

This is going to end up in the courts.

@rpant_gabba, next we'll have to wait for a copy of the broadcasting rights agreement to leak.
 
Rana said:
Tell me, I probably know more than you as it is. But let’s hear your version of “Rambo mode”.
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What has going against ICC/BCCI really achieve for PCB so far?

In fact dare I say ICC and indirectly BCCI needs to get a lot of credit for keeping Pak cricket alive after 2009 terror incident.

PSL didn’t start till 2015-2016 correct me if I am wrong and franchise leagues don’t make profit in the first year itself unless it works differently in Pakistan.

Ramiz Raza and Najam Sethi are not totally less or more qualified to run cricket than Naqvi. They know the damage bravado would cause. It’s one thing to say we will crush them in a match but Off field things work differently.
 
kingusama92 said:
The issue is that the financial hit will compound if they ban Pakistan.

The ICC can barely digest losing out on February 15th's match, I find it hard to believe they will have the stomach to take multiple hits going well into the future.
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Bro,

There is no certanity that indo pakmatch will happen in next tournament so they can remove that uncertainty and negotiate with the broadcaster with no indo pak game, w

Pakistan has played the only card they had, if icc reacts negatively pcb has no Counter
 
Local.Dada said:
What has going against ICC/BCCI really achieve for PCB so far?

In fact dare I say ICC and indirectly BCCI needs to get a lot of credit for keeping Pak cricket alive after 2009 terror incident.

PSL didn’t start till 2015-2016 correct me if I am wrong and franchise leagues don’t make profit in the first year itself unless it works differently in Pakistan.

Ramiz Raza and Najam Sethi are not totally less or more qualified to run cricket than Naqvi. They know the damage bravado would cause. It’s one thing to say we will crush them in a match but Off field things work differently.
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Bongiya na Maar.

Rambo mode ki definition bata bas.
 
Local.Dada said:
What has going against ICC/BCCI really achieve for PCB so far?

In fact dare I say ICC and indirectly BCCI needs to get a lot of credit for keeping Pak cricket alive after 2009 terror incident.

PSL didn’t start till 2015-2016 correct me if I am wrong and franchise leagues don’t make profit in the first year itself unless it works differently in Pakistan.

Ramiz Raza and Najam Sethi are not totally less or more qualified to run cricket than Naqvi. They know the damage bravado would cause. It’s one thing to say we will crush them in a match but Off field things work differently.
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Naqvi is just playing to the anti India galleries in pakistan to prop up his political career, rameez and sethi didn't have this compulsion and they knew the actual damages pcb msy face
 
cricketjoshila said:
Naqvi is just playing to the anti India galleries in pakistan to prop up his political career, rameez and sethi didn't have this compulsion and they knew the actual damages pcb msy face
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Well, Rameez and Sethi had no direct exposure to the full Pakistan treasury either did they?
 
Local.Dada said:
You will watch associate matches too this worldcup (compliment for your passion), so unless you watch on pirate streams, don’t worry, tere taraf se 0 nuksaan 😭
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Ok. And that worries me how? India ko tou Bamb** de diya na?

The $500m golden goose…gone! Finished! Ended!

Why would Pakistan care now?
 
Why are Indians crying after the PCB refusal?

1)- Money
2)- National Interest was a drama
3)- No self respect
4)-They are obsessed with Pakistan
5)-All of the above
 
Rana said:
Ok. And that worries me how? India ko tou Bamboo de diya na?

The $500m golden goose…gone! Finished! Ended!

Why would Pakistan care now?
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India ka nahin ICC ka nuksaan hai. It’s going to impact other boards including Pakistan more than it will impact BCCI. But as they say, picture abhi baaki hai …
 
Red-Indian said:
Well Cricinfo has scored a coup and got itself a copy of the confidential MPA and had it reviewed by a couple of fancy lawyers. Key points

- Yes government instructions are specifically included in the 'Force Majeure' clause. So the PCB does have cover
- There is however a grey area on whether the PSB can be considered legally separate from the Pakistan government since the government nominates the Chairman
- There is also a gray area on whether such a partial Force Majeure would apply - just one game etc.
- If the ICC determines that a partial Force Majeure is not applicable, they do have the rights to suspend or even terminate membership

This is going to end up in the courts.

@rpant_gabba, next we'll have to wait for a copy of the broadcasting rights agreement to leak.
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The use of government was very clear cover. I believe they have studied this agreement in detail and that's why they decided a. To boycott just one match and b. To use government as cover.
In Pakistan Mohsin Naqvi is more senior than Shabaz Sharif at the moment. So it didn't make much sense for him to seek approval. I think it was done this way specifically for this circumstance.

ICC can suspend boards for government interference. For whatever reason they haven't suspended PCB before. I believe SLCB was suspended for a bit. I wonder if this "approval" by ICC ( more like acceptance) is legally enough for PCB to navigate the the grey area of government control and demonstrate that they have been separate to the government in the eyes of the ICC.
 
charlie007 said:
India ka nahin ICC ka nuksaan hai. It’s going to impact other boards including Pakistan more than it will impact BCCI. But as they say, picture abhi baaki hai …
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Tou theek hai na.

Should have thought about all of this in September. Might as well let it run its course now.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Bro,

There is no certanity that indo pakmatch will happen in next tournament so they can remove that uncertainty and negotiate with the broadcaster with no indo pak game, w

Pakistan has played the only card they had, if icc reacts negatively pcb has no Counter
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So why Indian Media is floating news of Sabotaging PSL and Bi lateral cricket for Pakistan Removing Pak from ICC tournament is not enough? Why going extra mile if ICC aka BCCI is nt effected much
 
DeadlyVenom said:
The use of government was very clear cover. I believe they have studied this agreement in detail and that's why they decided a. To boycott just one match and b. To use government as cover.
In Pakistan Mohsin Naqvi is more senior than Shabaz Sharif at the moment. So it didn't make much sense for him to seek approval. I think it was done this way specifically for this circumstance.

ICC can suspend boards for government interference. For whatever reason they haven't suspended PCB before. I believe SLCB was suspended for a bit. I wonder if this "approval" by ICC ( more like acceptance) is legally enough for PCB to navigate the the grey area of government control and demonstrate that they have been separate to the government in the eyes of the ICC.
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ICC cannot suspend a country or board for declining one match..
 
cricketjoshila said:
Bro,

There is no certanity that indo pakmatch will happen in next tournament so they can remove that uncertainty and negotiate with the broadcaster with no indo pak game, w

Pakistan has played the only card they had, if icc reacts negatively pcb has no Counter
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Of course, but that negotiation is going to come at a reduced price which will hurt all boards.

There were already murmurs that the Star Sports contract WITH Indo-Pak matches wasn't as lucrative as they had imagined. This is only going to make things worse for the ICC.

There's also an additional long-term issue of not letting the PCB drift too far away and thus encouraging the separation of cricket boards from the ICC. When one does it, others might follow in the future. Even the BCCI might be encouraged by the idea of just doing its own thing since the IPL rakes in money anyway.
 
RexRex said:
Right now the PCB is quivering in their boots and scratching their heads, wondering what to do.. they didn't realise the ICC would go full rambo on them. Any climbdown now will be humiliating for the kooky Mohsin Naqvi.
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What has icc done other than back channel talks to convince pakistan to play india?
 
AndayWalaAllRounder said:
ICC cannot suspend a country or board for declining one match..
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It can. There are tournament rules. Batsmen are given out for being late to crease 30 seconds late with no exception these days. You know why? Because time is money and time is valuable because of advertisers/ sponsors/ broadcasters. Otherwise why would they make big deal about it.

Don’t apply 80s, 90s sensibility to 2026. You need to pay $10 to avoid watching ads even on YouTube which is supposedly free.

Now put it in the context of a team skipping a game without any legitimate reason. There are logistics involved. What about the fans who book tickets, flights, hotels in advance (I am sure a lot of Pakistanis might have booked hotels/ flights). Security arrangements, transport of tech equipments etc etc.

Even in Bangladesh case I really feel had they used better tone in their reschedule request and a more sensible aporoach citing government reasons ,I am 100% sure ICC would have accommodated them. Also it was too short of a notice. Anyways, They are replaced with Scotland. Now will a Scotland game draw as many eyeballs as Bangladesh game. Obviously not, but it is what is. It at least avoids the logistical nightmare this would cause.
 
kingusama92 said:
Of course, but that negotiation is going to come at a reduced price which will hurt all boards.

There were already murmurs that the Star Sports contract WITH Indo-Pak matches wasn't as lucrative as they had imagined. This is only going to make things worse for the ICC.

There's also an additional long-term issue of not letting the PCB drift too far away and thus encouraging the separation of cricket boards from the ICC. When one does it, others might follow in the future. Even the BCCI might be encouraged by the idea of just doing its own thing since the IPL rakes in money anyway.
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You can't sell something you don't have, so icc has to negotiate with no Indo-Pak mstch in future and make sure. No other country tries to pull of this kind of a trick by making an example out of pcb, having said that , i believe there's lot more to happen on this before 15th February
 
BCCI can easily change the ICC constitution and make the PCB a horrible example. If the Pakistani government, PCB and Mohsin Naqvi did this whole saga just out of solidarity with Bangladesh, then they are even bigger idiots than i thought.
 
I double dog dare the ICC to ban Pakistan from cricket.

It will take about a year before the ICC begs for a bailout, with BCCI up its throat.

Finances for ICC and BCCI will tumble into the red. There is a reason why ICC, BCCI, and the cult, are in panic mode right now.
 
guard said:
Now they’re speaking on Lanka’s behalf…🤡🤡

The desperation..
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Despite you guys lying, we know that sri lanka refused group change for Bangladesh and voted against Bangladesh and Pakistans stand.

So no one needs to speak for them, their vote speaks for itself
 
emranabbas said:
What has icc done other than back channel talks to convince pakistan to play india?
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If a child throws a juvenile stunt for attention, the adults don't try to convince the child. They spank him and send him to bed hungry.

If you want to have any respect, start behaving like adults. When you act like kids the world will treat you like kids.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
So why Indian Media is floating news of Sabotaging PSL and Bi lateral cricket for Pakistan Removing Pak from ICC tournament is not enough? Why going extra mile if ICC aka BCCI is nt effected much
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So now you guys are pretending you don't understand how media works?

Media everywhere today is made of clickbaits for maximum attention.

You realise media in India is private entities which are not controlled by BCCI or government right?

It's funny how in such times you guys pretend you don't have even the most basic understanding of how the world works. Now you are pretending you don't understand how media works.
 
ethan hunt said:
Indian ex players, your journalists, everywhere on the media. They are crying.
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Nope, they are pointing at you and laughing at you for your juvenile stunts.

Mocking a child or punishing him when he throws tantrums for attention is not crying. It's the opposite of crying.

But hey you guys have lied about everything so far, so please continue lying some more.
 
Technics 1210 said:
I double dog dare the ICC to ban Pakistan from cricket.

It will take about a year before the ICC begs for a bailout, with BCCI up its throat.

Finances for ICC and BCCI will tumble into the red. There is a reason why ICC, BCCI, and the cult, are in panic mode right now.
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Lets be honest. India does not need the rest of the world. India can easily play internally domestically amongst its own players and still be worth billions. Pakistan will learn the hard way just like they did after 2009 when the IPL became a $6 billion league without Pakistani players. India will offer bilateral series to all the countries who will suffer losses from Pakistan's T-20 India game boycott and this way India will enter the good books of these countries.

I hear a lot of talk from Pakistani ex players and analysts on how Pakistan survived international isolation, no cricket with India from 2009 to now. Let's be honest, without the annual ICC share, Pakistan Cricket would have collapsed. If BCCI really wanted, they would have had the PCB out there with a tin cup.
 
Savak said:
Lets be honest. India does not need the rest of the world. India can easily play internally domestically amongst its own players and still be worth billions. Pakistan will learn the hard way just like they did after 2009 when the IPL became a $6 billion league without Pakistani players. India will offer bilateral series to all the countries who will suffer losses from Pakistan's T-20 India game boycott and this way India will enter the good books of these countries.

I hear a lot of talk from Pakistani ex players and analysts on how Pakistan survived international isolation, no cricket with India from 2009 to now. Let's be honest, without the annual ICC share, Pakistan Cricket would have collapsed. If BCCI really wanted, they would have had the PCB out there with a tin cup.
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No!
 
Local.Dada said:
It can. There are tournament rules. Batsmen are given out for being late to crease 30 seconds late with no exception these days. You know why? Because time is money and time is valuable because of advertisers/ sponsors/ broadcasters. Otherwise why would they make big deal about it.

Don’t apply 80s, 90s sensibility to 2026. You need to pay $10 to avoid watching ads even on YouTube which is supposedly free.

Now put it in the context of a team skipping a game without any legitimate reason. There are logistics involved. What about the fans who book tickets, flights, hotels in advance (I am sure a lot of Pakistanis might have booked hotels/ flights). Security arrangements, transport of tech equipments etc etc.

Even in Bangladesh case I really feel had they used better tone in their reschedule request and a more sensible aporoach citing government reasons ,I am 100% sure ICC would have accommodated them. Also it was too short of a notice. Anyways, They are replaced with Scotland. Now will a Scotland game draw as many eyeballs as Bangladesh game. Obviously not, but it is what is. It at least avoids the logistical nightmare this would cause.
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Show us the rule.
 
Savak said:
Lets be honest. India does not need the rest of the world. India can easily play internally domestically amongst its own players and still be worth billions. Pakistan will learn the hard way just like they did after 2009 when the IPL became a $6 billion league without Pakistani players. India will offer bilateral series to all the countries who will suffer losses from Pakistan's T-20 India game boycott and this way India will enter the good books of these countries.

I hear a lot of talk from Pakistani ex players and analysts on how Pakistan survived international isolation, no cricket with India from 2009 to now. Let's be honest, without the annual ICC share, Pakistan Cricket would have collapsed. If BCCI really wanted, they would have had the PCB out there with a tin cup.
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Where did the annual share from ICC come from, how was it generated?
 
Savak said:
Lets be honest. India does not need the rest of the world. India can easily play internally domestically amongst its own players and still be worth billions. Pakistan will learn the hard way just like they did after 2009 when the IPL became a $6 billion league without Pakistani players. India will offer bilateral series to all the countries who will suffer losses from Pakistan's T-20 India game boycott and this way India will enter the good books of these countries.

I hear a lot of talk from Pakistani ex players and analysts on how Pakistan survived international isolation, no cricket with India from 2009 to now. Let's be honest, without the annual ICC share, Pakistan Cricket would have collapsed. If BCCI really wanted, they would have had the PCB out there with a tin cup.
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Disagree . IND controls World cricket but it does need the top 3 teams to carry on a facade of it being World cricket . Rest , like Pakistan do not really matter .
 
Savak said:
Lets be honest. India does not need the rest of the world. India can easily play internally domestically amongst its own players and still be worth billions. Pakistan will learn the hard way just like they did after 2009 when the IPL became a $6 billion league without Pakistani players. India will offer bilateral series to all the countries who will suffer losses from Pakistan's T-20 India game boycott and this way India will enter the good books of these countries.

I hear a lot of talk from Pakistani ex players and analysts on how Pakistan survived international isolation, no cricket with India from 2009 to now. Let's be honest, without the annual ICC share, Pakistan Cricket would have collapsed. If BCCI really wanted, they would have had the PCB out there with a tin cup.
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Lets be honest, India needs to play Pakistan for the revenue and to stay financially afloat. I can prove it. BCCI has forbidden all forms of cricket with Pakistan, with the exception of ICC tournaments. Why? To appease the ICC, to make the groups even steven?

I hear a lot of talk from India and BCCI apologists claiming they don't need Pakistan, yet here they are, rattled and in shock! If even 1% of what you said were true, we would not be seeing the reactions we are from BCCI/Cult apologists. Not to mention how ICC posted a statement devoid of any official statement to the ICC.

Get real.
 
Brilliant minds of dictator army have taken Pakistan to great heights. This is another well thought out step taken by the same group. Whatever be the outcome, Pakistan will come out ahead or at least that will be the message.

As a cricket fan, I will surely mind Pakistan not being in global tournament. I doubt that it will happen. Who knows, PCB will make U turn and play all matches even in this tournament.
 
Savak said:
Lets be honest. India does not need the rest of the world.
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India will surely need top cricketers from all over the world. WI was tiny country but very important back in 80s due to playing top class cricket.

Now Pakistan or BD is different issue due to not having good cricketers right now.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Where did the annual share from ICC come from, how was it generated?
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Annual share is generated from ICC tournaments. However BCCI can easily survive by just offering bilateral cricket to the rest of the world excluding Pakistan and staying away from ICC events.
 
Savak said:
Annual share is generated from ICC tournaments. However BCCI can easily survive by just offering bilateral cricket to the rest of the world excluding Pakistan and staying away from ICC events.
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They can do that going forward.

But let's be clear. The payment in the past Pakistan received from ICC was due to the value it brought in via these matches. This was not some hand out as stated by Indians.
 
Sachin fan said:
If a child throws a juvenile stunt for attention, the adults don't try to convince the child. They spank him and send him to bed hungry.

If you want to have any respect, start behaving like adults. When you act like kids the world will treat you like kids.
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Throwing tantrum and cherry picking what we will play and what we will not play is exactly what the morally corrupt thug galee-lofar kid BCCI has done for more than a decade. This misbehaving immature kid had the spanking coming so finally it got one. Perhaps this ll teach some real good lessons on how to behave sane and mature like adults, around adults
 
DeadlyVenom said:
They can do that going forward.

But let's be clear. The payment in the past Pakistan received from ICC was due to the value it brought in via these matches. This was not some hand out as stated by Indians.
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Vikrant Gupta mentioned in one of his videos that the ICC earned around $28 million from the Pakistani market whereas they will be dispursing $138 million to the PCB over 4 years and that the PCB was grotesquely overpaid relative to its actual value.
 
Savak said:
Vikrant Gupta mentioned in one of his videos that the ICC earned around $28 million from the Pakistani market whereas they will be dispursing $138 million to the PCB over 4 years and that the PCB was grotesquely overpaid relative to its actual value.
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Who generated the money from the Indo-Pak game? Vikrant's Dad?

Indian media company paid for it, but Pakistan team is generating it alongside Indian team.
 
Savak said:
Lets be honest. India does not need the rest of the world. India can easily play internally domestically amongst its own players and still be worth billions. Pakistan will learn the hard way just like they did after 2009 when the IPL became a $6 billion league without Pakistani players. India will offer bilateral series to all the countries who will suffer losses from Pakistan's T-20 India game boycott and this way India will enter the good books of these countries.

I hear a lot of talk from Pakistani ex players and analysts on how Pakistan survived international isolation, no cricket with India from 2009 to now. Let's be honest, without the annual ICC share, Pakistan Cricket would have collapsed. If BCCI really wanted, they would have had the PCB out there with a tin cup.
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Nice talk about INDIA IPL and MONEY but why would BCCI do all that just to cover loss for for ICC?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Who generated the money from the Indo-Pak game? Vikrant's Dad?

Indian media company paid for it, but Pakistan team is generating it alongside Indian team.
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Indian viewer and overseas viewers who pay a subscription model. Pakistanis who watch it on local government channels add very little value.

Yes India and Pak fans (mostly Indian fans) who buy tickets, merchandise and also boost local economy will add value.

Pakistanis only contribution is to show up and play.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Who generated the money from the Indo-Pak game? Vikrant's Dad?

Indian media company paid for it, but Pakistan team is generating it alongside Indian team.
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Technically its the Fair & Lovely adverts between overs, then the Jandu balm montage during the breaks which generate revenues.

Pakistan just ensures 1.4 Billion are on the hook.
 
Buffet said:
India will surely need top cricketers from all over the world. WI was tiny country but very important back in 80s due to playing top class cricket.

Now Pakistan or BD is different issue due to not having good cricketers right now.
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Most of the viewership, after India, comes from Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Even in countries like Australia and England, a large portion of the cricket audience is made up of subcontinent communities including people of Pakistani, Bangladeshi, and Indian background who significantly contribute to overall viewership.
 
Savak said:
Annual share is generated from ICC tournaments. However BCCI can easily survive by just offering bilateral cricket to the rest of the world excluding Pakistan and staying away from ICC events.
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The question here isn't about the survival or bcci but icc

You keep mixing the both and coming out with gibberish
 
Local.Dada said:
Indian viewer and overseas viewers who pay a subscription model. Pakistanis who watch it on local government channels add very little value.

Yes India and Pak fans (mostly Indian fans) who buy tickets, merchandise and also boost local economy will add value.

Pakistanis only contribution is to show up and play.
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What's contribution of Indian team in the Indo-Pak match? Are they selling raffle tickets? They are only showing up to play too.

In the context of Indo-PK match Indian viewers and overseas viewers are rating Pakistan equally. It is bigger than rest of the tournament combined and the reason ICC functions.
 
emranabbas said:
Most of the viewership, after India, comes from Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Even in countries like Australia and England, a large portion of the cricket audience is made up of subcontinent communities including people of Pakistani, Bangladeshi, and Indian background who significantly contribute to overall viewership.
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Eyeballs don’t matter in a larger context. A lot of Indian movies even the flop ones get watched by piracy in Pakistan by the millions, yet it generates 0 revenue for the producer.
 
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