If the ICC were to ban Pakistan from the WT20 or future tournaments, would you really mind?

[DeadlyVenom]

His name is sami ul hasan

Neve heard of him before but is speaking form an emotional desi sense of ye Kar dein gein woh Kar dein gein than anything than anything practical.

If there is a TV rights contract that iCC is liable for and there is no insurance etc then ICC will try to take form the PCB. This probably suits Pakistan as it will go to court rather than be an ICC only issue where India has more sway.

As for PSL being affected and players banned etc I'm not sure how this punishment can be enforced for skipping one match. It just doesn't make sense.

PCB and the Bangladeshis have been very careful here. Neither side has boycotted the world cup. They are happy playing anyone and anywhere apart from India. I believe that's why PCB took so long to announce this too.

Don't get me wrong PCB will take a hit, not sure how much yet, but some of these punishments being floated around seem borne from Indian hurt egos than anything practically enforceable.

Again, they are missing one match, and are happy playing the remainder of the tournament.

 

[NishanKonar]

At this point it will become a long and protracted case.

Jiostar can definitely sue ICC and be successful. iCC Vs PCB im less sure.

ICC has negotiated these contracts not PCB. So they will bear the brunt initially.

Boards sign participation agreement with ICC. So if any board refuses to play - they are violating terms laid out in JioHotstar contract. So the nature of this contract is such that in effect it will be JioHotstar vs PCB. Thats the whole logic of counter-suing

Also this case will be fought at international courts. Not ur friendly Pakistani courts

Anyways these are legal stuff which is un-intelligible to most people here. So I can understand why u guys think nothing will happen

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Icc means its common pool of amount meant to be distributed for everyone else rt.so every one has to bear the brunt.then it becomes tricky to deal in board meetings.

It will hurt many boards. It is a big step that has shaken up cricket.

 

[Red-Indian]

That’s not really how ICC events or broadcast contracts work which you and @NishanKonar trying to say.
Jio/Hotstar’s contract is with the ICC, not PCB, so they can’t directly sue PCB and ICC cant counter sue PCB. At most, ICC and broadcaster absorb it under force-majeure/government-restriction clauses, which exist specifically for situations like this.


ICC also cannot automatically pass 100%+ losses to one board just because a single match wasn’t played, especially when a sovereign government order is involved. That would collapse the MPA system itself.

So realistically, punishment will be loss of points and partial revenue adjustment.

That's one view. Pretty impractical though.

 

[NishanKonar]

Every board signs a member participlation agreement with ICC

So when ICC signs a contract with JioHotstar - every board is autimatically a signatory of that contract

So PCB as a full member of ICC is allready a signatory of the contract with JioHotstar

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Boards sign participation agreement with ICC. So if any board refuses to play - they are violating terms laid out in JioHotstar contract. So the nature of this contract is such that in effect it will be JioHotstar vs PCB. Thats the whole logic of counter-suing

Also this case will be fought at international courts. Not ur friendly Pakistani courts

Anyways these are legal stuff which is un-intelligible to most people here. So I can understand why u guys think nothing will happen

In the same way, I think you are thinking it's an Indian court where Jay Shah voice is supreme.

The situation isn't as straightforward as you are thinking either. It will be a long and messy case.

 

[NishanKonar]

In the same way, I think you are thinking it's an Indian court where Jay Shah voice is supreme.

The situation isn't as straightforward as you are thinking either. It will be a long and messy case.

No it wud be in Switzerland or wherever the ICC is commercially registered

 

[NishanKonar]

No it wud be in Switzerland or wherever the ICC is commercially registered

CAS based in Lausanne , Switzerland to be precise

 

[Red-Indian]

Every board signs a member participlation agreement with ICC

So when ICC signs a contract with JioHotstar - every board is autimatically a signatory of that contract

So PCB as a full member of ICC is allready a signatory of the contract with JioHotstar

That's not really how it works. Jio has a single contract with the ICC and can only deal with it for breach of obligations under the contract.

How the ICC chooses to act i.e. absorb the losses, spread them out to all members, penalise a single member etc. is an internal ICC matter. The MPA will define how it acts but of course pressure from India will be intense.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

My own suspicion is that this match is such a money spinner for all parties , BCCI, PCB, ICC, Jio etc that the thought of someone voluntarily refusing to play hasn't crossed their mind too much, and that perhaps the contractual clauses may be a bit light on this particular issue. ICC can maybe claim to have scheduled the match and perhaps that will be enough, to satisfy the contractual demands and in the end broadcaster will have to eat the cost.

Anyway, without seeing the terms we are just speculating.

 

[AndayWalaAllRounder]

Every board signs a member participlation agreement with ICC

So when ICC signs a contract with JioHotstar - every board is autimatically a signatory of that contract

So PCB as a full member of ICC is allready a signatory of the contract with JioHotstar

Which is called as MPA, and it has nothing to do with ICC contracts with broadcasters. MPA is done between ICC and Boards, in which the agree to play ICC events, anti corruption codes, icc rules following etc etc.

Did Pakistan breach the MPA - yes they did.

But then there is clause about government restriction / force majeure, so as per laws, ICC will take the points, issue a formal letter, and partial revenue adjustment. GOVT order is a very strong legal shield and ICC cant fight that.

The MPA is a participation and compliance agreement, not an insurance policy where one board guarantees all commercial revenue of a tournament. It obligates boards to participate, yes, but it also explicitly operates in a world where government restrictions, visas, security bans, and political orders exist. That’s why force-majeure and government-interference clauses exist in ICC events in the first place

The broadcaster’s legal relationship is only with the ICC, not with PCB. No privity of contract means no direct lawsuit against PCB. And yeah why ICC cant counter sue? because its not a private body, its a members body.

 

[NishanKonar]

That's not really how it works. Jio has a single contract with the ICC and can only deal with it for breach of obligations under the contract.

How the ICC chooses to act i.e. absorb the losses, spread them out to all members, penalise a single member etc. is an internal ICC matter. The MPA will define how it acts but of course pressure from India will be intense.

ICC MPA mandates every member to play every game as per schedule. Any boycott is violation of the contract. The ICC can sue the board in that case

See if PCB boycotts - they will get sued for damages. U can bookmark this post

 

[Red-Indian]

My own suspicion is that this match is such a money spinner for all parties , BCCI, PCB, ICC, Jio etc that the thought of someone voluntarily refusing to play hasn't crossed their mind too much, and that perhaps the contractual clauses may be a bit light on this particular issue. ICC can maybe claim to have scheduled the match and perhaps that will be enough, to satisfy the contractual demands and in the end broadcaster will have to eat the cost.

Anyway, without seeing the terms we are just speculating.

That's too optimistic a reading to expect Jio to take this lying down. The BCCI will be egging it on as well. The Ambanis and Modi's government are in each others' pockets. Essentially Shah & Co control 3 sides of this dispute - Jio, BCCI and the ICC.

You're right that it's pointless to speculate too much but we're talking 100+ million dollars here - probably more. Nobody's just eating it without a massive fight.

 

[Hellion]

Will be a sad day if that happens. How will associates/minnows announce they have arrived at the grand stage when they don't have a credible opponent they can actually beat?

Ireland '07, Afghanistan '23 and USA '24.

Pakistan have been a very entertaining team and it'll be a sad day for ICC cricket if that happens

 

[AndayWalaAllRounder]

ICC MPA mandates every member to play every game as per schedule. Any boycott is violation of the contract. The ICC can sue the board in that case

See if PCB boycotts - they will get sued for damages. U can bookmark this post

Ah no point in discussing with you if you are acting like a stubborn x or meta platform child.
Anyways, if its make you feel happy sure feel and think about suing PCB etc etc.

Hopefully, time will tell.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

That's too optimistic a reading to expect Jio to take this lying down. The BCCI will be egging it on as well. The Ambanis and Modi's government are in each others' pockets. Essentially Shah & Co control 3 sides of this dispute - Jio, BCCI and the ICC.

You're right that it's pointless to speculate too much but we're talking 100+ million dollars here - probably more. Nobody's just eating it without a massive fight.

Perhaps I am being optimistic. I doubt they will take it lying down.

But from a Pakistani pov, the plan to play the rest of the world cup, the hiding behind "government clearance" despite Shabaz basically reporting to Naqvi and not the other way around, and the delay in announcement leads me to believe they have studied something and came to a conclusion that will absolve them of any hit.

It's Pakistan though, so it's equally possible they didn't and just went gung-ho.

But I don't think the punishments and penalties are as easy to apply as many are suggesting.

 

[Devadwal]

ICC MPA mandates every member to play every game as per schedule. Any boycott is violation of the contract. The ICC can sue the board in that case

See if PCB boycotts - they will get sued for damages. U can bookmark this post

You can’t even argue with Pakistani. Fans, journalists, ex-cricketers, all living in a bubble of delusion. When they have nothing, they invent something.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

BCCI is just like a woman who keeps asking for divorce but when husband delivers it then rush to the court for reversal

 

[guard]

The only interaction Indian and Pakistani players have had in the past few months is curses, swear words and maa behn ki gaaliyan


That’s just not on Im afraid. Its the right decision to boycott.

Those galiyan are here to stay…. Just go on any SM site, and any topic on Pakistan or has a Pakistani author then see the absolute disgusting and disgraceful comments being spewed from their mouths!!

Its not free data, its ingrained behaviour and the whole awaam sings the same hymn book

 

[Pakhs]

Do we have a clear definition of what that amount is? Hopefully it’s the yearly distribution

PCB knows the consequences very well.

 

[rpant_gabba]

CAS based in Lausanne , Switzerland to be precise

CAS involvement is for pre agreed matters. Read the link on the CAS thread.

Not sure if these issues come under CAS

 

[NishanKonar]

CAS involvement is for pre agreed matters. Read the link on the CAS thread.

Not sure if these issues come under CAS

Yes it does

 

[rpant_gabba]

Yes it does

do you have nay documentation to support this?

The reference to CAS on ICC seems to limit it to cases iof corruption and Drug tests

 

[rpant_gabba]

PCB knows the consequences very well.

Would you mid spelling it out?

 

[Pakhs]

Would you mid spelling it out?

You don't need to know.

 

[rpant_gabba]

You don't need to know.

so you don't know.

 

[Pakhs]

so you don't know.

Its not something PCB wants to discuss with you. The decision has been announced which is what you need to know.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Its not something PCB wants to discuss with you. The decision has been announced which is what you need to know.

This gabba is probably from Brampton with a Canadian flag. Pointless to discuss.

 

[sweep_shot]

It is hilarious to see all the Indian meltdowns.

May they continue to become enraged. It is fun to see them like this.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Not at all

It is what it is.

Would rather die in this manner than live in the way they want us to.

Its not what you want there are millions others snd then there is future too

 

[cricketjoshila]

It is hilarious to see all the Indian meltdowns.

May they continue to become enraged. It is fun to see them like this.

Tu apna dekh Bangladesh is so unimportant that they kicked u giys out striaght away

 

[kingusama92]

The issue is that the financial hit will compound if they ban Pakistan.

The ICC can barely digest losing out on February 15th's match, I find it hard to believe they will have the stomach to take multiple hits going well into the future.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The issue is that the financial hit will compound if they ban Pakistan.

The ICC can barely digest losing out on February 15th's match, I find it hard to believe they will have the stomach to take multiple hits going well into the future.

I think they have forecast some of those hits. Indian broadcaster have already realised they overpayed and wanted to renegotiate.

This unexpected hit will hurt most. Cricket was going to use this money to be more comfortable when the belt was going to be tightened.

 

[Mainul]

Not at all

It is what it is.

Would rather die in this manner than live in the way they want us to.

That should be the spirit yaar.

 

[Mainul]

Remember a criminal gets weaker and weaker always in their inside if the oppressed group protests .

Boycott from Bangladesh and Pakistan were like sudden slaps on ICC's autocratic face . It will make their psychological aspect weaker definitely. I don't think that they will impose any big ban on Pakistan.

 

[rpant_gabba]

I think they have forecast some of those hits. Indian broadcaster have already realised they overpayed and wanted to renegotiate.

This unexpected hit will hurt most. Cricket was going to use this money to be more comfortable when the belt was going to be tightened.

Good news if it means not funding the likes Botswana cricket team with money from India public, I'm all for it. and Oh cancellation of Cricket from olympics and a complete break down of all social/economic engagement with Pak

 

[Major]

Boards sign participation agreement with ICC. So if any board refuses to play - they are violating terms laid out in JioHotstar contract. So the nature of this contract is such that in effect it will be JioHotstar vs PCB. Thats the whole logic of counter-suing

Also this case will be fought at international courts. Not ur friendly Pakistani courts

Anyways these are legal stuff which is un-intelligible to most people here. So I can understand why u guys think nothing will happen

Plz show us the agreement and its terms

 

[sweep_shot]

BCCI is just like a woman who keeps asking for divorce but when husband delivers it then rush to the court for reversal

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Agree. Good analogy.

Sanghis are like those annoying college girls who need constant attentions/validations.

 

[Major]

BCCI is just like a woman who keeps asking for divorce but when husband delivers it then rush to the court for reversal

You sir may award yourself a POTW award. Plz

 

[Mainul]

It is hilarious to see all the Indian meltdowns.

May they continue to become enraged. It is fun to see them like this.

Live long July spirit

I want to thank Pakistan and their cricket board for kicking at the buttocks of India and their branch ICC.

Ye Dil manage more Haha

 

[sweep_shot]

The issue is that the financial hit will compound if they ban Pakistan.

The ICC can barely digest losing out on February 15th's match, I find it hard to believe they will have the stomach to take multiple hits going well into the future.

They cannot ban Pakistan based on this. Forfeiting a game doesn't result in ban.

There have been many forfeits in the past.

A country can refuse to play a game or a tournament. Nobody can stop.

 

[charlie007]

BCCI is just like a woman who keeps asking for divorce but when husband delivers it then rush to the court for reversal

Didn’t the opposite happen? BCCI gave triple talaq (one every match) to PCB during the Asia Cup but PCB protested. When the court (ICC) asked it to appear on Feb 15th for a hearing, it ran away saying abbu (Pak govt) said not to go? Now the court is preparing contempt charges.

 

[shamaan]

What is the point in giving a youngster a chance a couple days before the world cup absolutely ridiculous thinking.The youngsters should have been given a chance way before the Australia story.

 

[shamaan]

It depends their reason for banning.

Teams performance goes up and down. It's part of sport, no need to get so sad about it that you never want to play again.

I'm not sure on what basis ICC can ban a team from all tournaments on the basis of them non playing one match.

They can put sanctions on ICC will loose millions.

 

[Major]

Didn’t the opposite happen? BCCI gave triple talaq (one every match) to PCB during the Asia Cup but PCB protested. When the court (ICC) asked it to appear on Feb 15th for a hearing, it ran away saying abbu (Pak govt) said not to go? Now the court is preparing contempt charges.

puray joke ke maa bhen aek karde

 

[charlie007]

puray joke ke maa bhen aek karde

In all seriousness though, I’m just disappointed it has come to this. Doesn’t matter whose fault it is. Us fans are being deprived of a marquee contest.

 

[Technics 1210]

ICC is history.

BCCI bankruptcy pending.

Jio and Fair & Lovely in free fall.

World cricket on its knees.

PCB - The Kingmakers of Cricket.

 

[shamaan]

I don't think ICC can do anything to Pakistan. Pakistan just lose points. That's it.

Boycotting a game has happened before too. NZ didn't go to Kenya for 2003 WC, Australia and West Indies didn't go to Sri Lanka for 1996 WC, England didn't go to Zimbabwe for 2003 WC etc.

It is cringy how some people bootlick India without any shame.

They cant do anything even if they put sanctions ICC will be at bigger loss.

 

[charlie007]

ICC is history.

BCCI bankruptcy pending.

Jio and Fair & Lovely in free fall.

World cricket on its knees.

PCB - The Kingmakers of Cricket.

Uth ja ab, subah ho gai

 

[Technics 1210]

It's amazing isn't it. These cult members were celebrating the exclusion of Pakistan cricket, and now that the cult's *daal roti* is under threat and depends on Pakistan, they come out in their droves and their pathetic smilies.

PCB and Pakistan have India right where it's wanted - begging in fear.

Don't feed the cult. Let them suffer in their own humiliation.

 

[Mainul]

ICC MPA mandates every member to play every game as per schedule. Any boycott is violation of the contract. The ICC can sue the board in that case

See if PCB boycotts - they will get sued for damages. U can bookmark this post

After reading this post every Pakistani must be trembling in fear , sweating in agony, crying in repentance and planning to hold the middle foot of ICC , right ?

 

[charlie007]

After reading this post every Pakistani must be trembling in fear , sweating in agony, crying in repentance and planning to hold the middle foot of ICC , right ?

Kya likh raha hai, who sweats in agony?
What’s the middle foot, learn?

 

[Technics 1210]

After reading this post every Pakistani must be trembling in fear , sweating in agony, crying in repentance and planning to hold the middle foot of ICC , right ?

I'm searching for a cliff!

The cult comments are straight out of the Hindutva handbook.

No one took India seriously in 5000 years, no reason to take India seriously now. Oh wait........

 

[Mainul]

I'm searching for a cliff!

The cult comments are straight out of the Hindutva handbook.

No one took India seriously in 5000 years, no reason to take India seriously now. Oh wait........

Difficult English, I don't get it ,in which side you are writing for ?

 

[shamaan]

ICC will be at bigger loss if pakistan doesnt play India.

 

[SportsWarrior]

banning is unlikely to happen. There will be financial repercussions. I am assuming both BCB and PCB are okay with that

 

[Technics 1210]

Difficult English, I don't get it ,in which side you are writing for ?

Check post #130

 

[Snowflake]

I don't think spite comes into it. There's definitely going to be a financial loss from the cancellation of the most lucrative game of the tournament. ICC has 2 options

a. To spread the loss evenly among all the teams in proportion to their revenue share
b. To disproportionately hit Pakistan. Given that Pakistan's share is only 6%...even that may not be enough to cover the loss.

I'm sure all the boards will happily vote for Option b to protect their share of the money. Here's where spite may come in. If they try to fine Pakistan for more, it could get really legal and ugly.

My point was that any action taken that is not legal will be purely out of spite

 

[TheSultan]

Not playing a game because the other team refuses to shake hands? I feel this has been overblown big time and should never have been made such a big issue. Just get on with your business. The Indians never liked you in the first place.

It’s nice to see Agha playing well, and yes, Pakistan has shown some improvement in white ball cricket. But structurally, the team is miles behind where modern cricket is. In red ball cricket especially, Pakistan has basically become a minnow. Not even being able to win TEST matches at home. Wickets are roads or spinning miles from Day 1.

What frustrates me most is the inability to make big calls. Take the example where Babar and Shadab yesterday played a completely meaningless game even though the series was already won. That was a perfect opportunity to blood a youngster, but instead they went with the so called seniors again. That mindset is holding them back, Fakhar, Babar, Shadab etc have failed too many times in ICC events now, its time to move on.

The biggest downfall for me has been the pace bowling. Most of the times pacers look unfit and slow. They have turned into 2x2-over specialists who cant maintain intensity and high pace.

On top of that, the so called experts in Pakistan are painfully to listen to. They are still talking about anchoring innings in T20s, taking the game deep, and relying on “specialist” players. The reality is that modern white ball cricket has moved on. Flexibility, intent, and adaptability matter far more now.

At this point, Pakistan cricket feels so out of depth with the modern game that I honestly would not even care if they were banned. Not because I want them punished, but because the system itself refuses to improve.

I agree on the cricketing points, but you can’t pin the non playing as a response to the non shaking of hands.

That episode is done.

India have been threatening to boycott our game for years. We’re saying ok no problem. The official reason has not been given, and even if it is to show solidarity with Bangladesh, then so what. Even that is a good enough reason for me.

It’s about time someone led the way in standing up. The English and Aussies have shown very little backbone over the years and I really don’t expect much from them, but this might wake up the others.

And if it ends up in the short term being India, Australia and England playing their own non stop triangular tournament then so be it.

 

[Hitman]

Why would any Pakistani fan mind? Their players visit the hosting countries of ICC tournaments for sight seeing, and entertainment anyways.​

 

[Varun]

Amit and Jay's bluff has been called. Doesn't matter what Pakistan minds or doesn't mind - the ball is in the BCCICC's court now.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It's very difficult to get a measure on the overall Indian viewpoint on this.

There is a range of opinions, from the we don't care group, all the way to the Arnab type of people that are the loudest and most visible, but I don't know how reflective they are of the wider Indian opinion. I am guessing that because of BJP winning elections time and time again that these type of people are considerable.

There was lots of talk after the Pahalgam attacks about India completely boycotting Pakistan. Most of the Indian PPers advocated for this, but then pretended that cricket was important and India was actually forced to play, their government forced them to recalibrate their opinions when it chose to serve star sports over the will of the public.

From what I can see, the sight of Suryakumar Yadav and co, being forced to fly to Sri Lanka and stand in an empty stadium to play a non-existent match, will send a lot of people over the edge.

 

[harshjoshi87]

India played against Pakistan in Asia Cup 2025 only because of Olympics hosting thing in 2032 or else it would have complete boycott apart from ICC tournaments.

Anyways most Indian fans don't care about this dead rivalry anymore.

Looking forward to see Pakistan boycott the match on the 15th.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Amit and Jay's bluff has been called. Doesn't matter what Pakistan minds or doesn't mind - the ball is in the BCCICC's court now.

Yup. Hopefully PCB/Pak number gets called and Indian GNV clowns are completely ignored in the next steps

 

[Red-Indian]

India played against Pakistan in Asia Cup 2025 only because of Olympics hosting thing in 2032 or else it would have complete boycott apart from ICC tournaments.

Anyways most Indian fans don't care about this dead rivalry anymore.

Looking forward to see Pakistan boycott the match on the 15th.

Don't speak for all Indians. Most still enjoy the game especially now that we're so dominant. It'll be a major loss in a sport with only 7-8 serious teams for two of them to never play each other going forward.

I'm really surprised to see such a tiny minority on both sides regret the loss of the game. Virtually every Pakistani poster on here virulently support their military dictatorship's idiotic decision and virtually every Indian poster is only regretting that India didn't commit the stupidity first.

On the 15th itself, I suppose both sides will be like two bar brawlers who keep demanding their friends let them go so they can throw a punch now find themselves free of restraints and not sure what to do next. Neither thought it would actually come to this.

 

[BouncerGuy]

LOL.... ICC cannot ban Pakistan... These delusional ifs and buts can come only from 1 country.

 

[Rana]

LOL.... ICC cannot ban Pakistan... These delusional ifs and buts can come only from 1 country.

Meri jaan,

There is nothing we can do if they put it to vote with all boards like they did with Bangladesh.

 

[Devadwal]

LOL.... ICC cannot ban Pakistan... These delusional ifs and buts can come only from 1 country.

Meri jaan,

There is nothing we can do if they put it to vote with all boards like they did with Bangladesh.

Enjoying the meltdown.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Meri jaan,

There is nothing we can do if they put it to vote with all boards like they did with Bangladesh.

On what basis can they ban?

 

[Rana]

On what basis can they ban?

From what I am reading and hearing from their mouthpiece journalists…

They will use the excuse that Pakistan agreed to the tournament conditions of playing all fixtures. They will throw out the Bangladesh excuse is irrelevant. They will deny the force majeure clause by claiming why did Pakistan play the u19 fixture the morning after Naqvi blamed India for Balochistan issues.

They will listen and then put it to vote: “should Pakistan be thrown out of the tournament if they refuse to play India”. It’s as simple as that. If they ain’t making money from us, they don’t want us there. That’s all it is. Why wouldn’t the other boards vote in favour of throwing us out?

 

[Devadwal]

From what I am reading and hearing from their mouthpiece journalists…

They will use the excuse that Pakistan agreed to the tournament conditions of playing all fixtures. They will throw out the Bangladesh excuse is irrelevant. They will deny the force majeure clause by claiming why did Pakistan play the u19 fixture the morning after Naqvi blamed India for Balochistan issues.

They will listen and then put it to vote: “should Pakistan be thrown out of the tournament if they refuse to play India”. It’s as simple as that. If they ain’t making money from us, they don’t want us there. That’s all it is. Why wouldn’t the other boards vote in favour of throwing us out?

Aakhir todi akal aa hi gyi Rana . As Australia journalist lalor said " Pakistan only irrelevant because the rivalry with india otherwise they are another Bangladesh .
Pakistani should have not break that myth because BCCI was trying to do it and they haven't got any chance as already broadcasting rights sold until 2027, BCCI will break that myth in champion trophy But now Pakistan has already given them a chance to break this myth and now PCB has no Leverage left in ICC, so only time will tell what will happen next.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

From what I am reading and hearing from their mouthpiece journalists…

They will use the excuse that Pakistan agreed to the tournament conditions of playing all fixtures. They will throw out the Bangladesh excuse is irrelevant. They will deny the force majeure clause by claiming why did Pakistan play the u19 fixture the morning after Naqvi blamed India for Balochistan issues.

They will listen and then put it to vote: “should Pakistan be thrown out of the tournament if they refuse to play India”. It’s as simple as that. If they ain’t making money from us, they don’t want us there. That’s all it is. Why wouldn’t the other boards vote in favour of throwing us out?

I'm not sure if they can convene a vote on this basis.

Remember Bangladesh wasn't thrown out by the ICC board. They voted on relocating Bangladesh fixtures. After the vote went against them Bangladesh withdrew. Similarly when Zimbabwe were on bad terms with English government they voluntarily withdrew.

I don't think there is anything in the ICC structure around voting on something like this. Once a team has met the qualifying criteria it can't be thrown out.

I could be wrong of course. But I feel like the PCB has played it quite smartly.

 

[Rana]

I'm not sure if they can convene a vote on this basis.

Remember Bangladesh wasn't thrown out by the ICC board. They voted on relocating Bangladesh fixtures. After the vote went against them Bangladesh withdrew. Similarly when Zimbabwe were on bad terms with English government they voluntarily withdrew.

I don't think there is anything in the ICC structure around voting on something like this. Once a team has met the qualifying criteria it can't be thrown out.

I could be wrong of course. But I feel like the PCB has played it quite smartly.

Bro they can and do what they want.

They don’t think like us, sensible people. Jay Shah will not be allowed by his government and Indian public to allow Pakistan to get away with this. He isn’t going to think about what’s morally or legally right, he’s just going to find any little route to impose this in a manner that cannot be challenged from their legal perspective. But this is what they will definitely do.


As I said, if we’ve taken up this fight, then we better know this is the consequence.

 

[Vikram1989]

Once a team has met the qualifying criteria it can't be thrown out.

What's the criteria? Expected to play all the matches as per signed matches rt?

As per reports, icc said accept all or none.pcb don't want to officially communicate with icc to drag it on. I guess if pcb doesn't respond, icc may convene a meeting before the first match.

 

[Devadwal]

What's the criteria? Expected to play all the matches as per signed matches rt?

As per reports, icc said accept all or none.pcb don't want to officially communicate with icc to drag it on. I guess if pcb doesn't respond, icc may convene a meeting before the first match.

Pakistaniyo ko samjana mtlb bhains ke aage been bajaana because they are living in bubble of delusions

 

[Rana]

The other issue Gupta was highlighting (from his Sanghi lens) is that there is also now the issue of severe distrust between the ICC and Mohsin Naqvi. They clearly know Naqvi is a madman who can pull off anything at any time! So even if Pakistan agrees to the ICC’s demands of playing the 15th Feb game, this is still no guarantee that Pakistan will go ahead and play it. There is an equal chance of Pakistan just not turning up to the game scheduled that day.

So these fanatical journalists who dictate BCCI narrative will now want to avoid any possible humiliation at the hands of PCB by simply cutting off the head of the dragon. They will want PCB to be thrown out regardless before Saturday.

Maamla barh gaya hai boss!

 

[rpant_gabba]

On what basis can they ban?

Becos they have announced that they are going to violate a contract they have with ICC with the goal of harming ICC. No one can stupid enough to not recognize this.

PCB doesn’t have the balls and is hiding behind Government burka.

Any organization will work to protect itself.

Question is will ICC protect itself? What can PCB do if ICC chooses to protect based on Pak government decisions?

 

[rpant_gabba]

The other issue Gupta was highlighting (from his Sanghi lens) is that there is also now the issue of severe distrust between the ICC and Mohsin Naqvi. They clearly know Naqvi is a madman who can pull off anything at any time! So even if Pakistan agrees to the ICC’s demands of playing the 15th Feb game, this is still no guarantee that Pakistan will go ahead and play it. There is an equal chance of Pakistan just not turning up to the game scheduled that day.

So these fanatical journalists who dictate BCCI narrative will now want to avoid any possible humiliation at the hands of PCB by simply cutting off the head of the dragon. They will want PCB to be thrown out regardless before Saturday.

Maamla barh gaya hai boss!

We will not get along on many topics. That said, I like your clear cut thought process in this post.

Oh, also don’t be a RizBar hater

 

[Rana]

We will not get along on many topics. That said, I like your clear cut thought process in this post.

Oh, also don’t be a RizBar hater

Well then you will have to agree that BCCI/Jay Shah are also now making this about their ego and don’t give two hoots about broadcasters?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

What's the criteria? Expected to play all the matches as per signed matches rt?

As per reports, icc said accept all or none.pcb don't want to officially communicate with icc to drag it on. I guess if pcb doesn't respond, icc may convene a meeting before the first match.

Teams have forfeit in the past too.