If the ICC were to ban Pakistan from the WT20 or future tournaments, would you really mind?

[Cryin Out Loud]

In 2025, the ICC accepted India's government's word as final without an independent audit. In 2026, they ignored Bangladesh's government's word, performed an audit, and then punished them. If the PCB remains quiet now, they effectively agree that the ICC has the right to pick and choose whose government they respect.

By commissioning an assessment for Bangladesh but refusing one for India, the ICC essentially admitted that the rules are for sale. Legally, a governing body must treat all members equally. The PCB is making an issue of it now because if they don't, they lose their right to object if the ICC decides to force them to travel to India for a future tournament while India still refuses to visit Pakistan.

India's Case: No assessment , Hybrid Model granted.
Bangladesh's Case: Assessment performed Request denied and expelled

Clear double standards

So

- Earlier the PCB demanded and got a hybrid model.

- Now the PCB is now refusing to participate fully in the model it had itself demanded.

- The basis for this reversal is nothing more than its desire to protest the rights of a third party, the suddenly ‘brotherly nation of Bangladesh’

- And you’re arguing that the PCB is also wary that in the future the ICC will ignore the concession already made, the practice already established and force Pakistani to travel to India?

Hard to see how the PCB will be successful in the inevitable arbitration process with this line of argument. And that’s putting it politely.

 

[guard]

I think the SLCB will make a claim for compensation to ICC too and we Pakistanis back them on this and hope ICC compensates them.

Now they’re speaking on Lanka’s behalf…

The desperation..

 

[emranabbas]

So

- Earlier the PCB demanded and got a hybrid model.

- Now the PCB is now refusing to participate fully in the model it had itself demanded.

- The basis for this reversal is nothing more than its desire to protest the rights of a third party, the suddenly ‘brotherly nation of Bangladesh’

- And you’re arguing that the PCB is also wary that in the future the ICC will ignore the concession already made, the practice already established and force Pakistani to travel to India?

Hard to see how the PCB will be successful in the inevitable arbitration process with this line of argument. And that’s putting it politely.

Can you please show us 1 statement by PCB where they have refused to participate?

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Can you please show us 1 statement by PCB where they have refused to participate?

Fair enough

We shall wait for it.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

So

- Earlier the PCB demanded and got a hybrid model.

- Now the PCB is now refusing to participate fully in the model it had itself demanded.

- The basis for this reversal is nothing more than its desire to protest the rights of a third party, the suddenly ‘brotherly nation of Bangladesh’

- And you’re arguing that the PCB is also wary that in the future the ICC will ignore the concession already made, the practice already established and force Pakistani to travel to India?

Hard to see how the PCB will be successful in the inevitable arbitration process with this line of argument. And that’s putting it politely.

PCB did nt demand hybrid model. BCCI did.

you have weak memory? who refused to travel to Pak? why would pcb demand hybrid model when it was given hosting rights?

Second you failed to address the procedural difference i talked about the way ICC teated bcci and BD on similar stances. You are just sheepishly ignoring that

 

[Hikaru]

PCB did nt demand hybrid model. BCCI did.

you have weak memory? who refused to travel to Pak? why would pcb demand hybrid model when it was given hosting rights?

Second you failed to address the procedural difference i talked about the way ICC teated bcci and BD on similar stances. You are just sheepishly ignoring that

None of PCB's business. Even BCB isn't escalating the issue any further, but PCB like always has decided to shoot itself in the foot with this fake bravado, trying to play a hero no one ever asked for. Another egg on Naqvi's face awaits.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

So

- Earlier the PCB demanded and got a hybrid model.

- Now the PCB is now refusing to participate fully in the model it had itself demanded.

- The basis for this reversal is nothing more than its desire to protest the rights of a third party, the suddenly ‘brotherly nation of Bangladesh’

- And you’re arguing that the PCB is also wary that in the future the ICC will ignore the concession already made, the practice already established and force Pakistani to travel to India?

Hard to see how the PCB will be successful in the inevitable arbitration process with this line of argument. And that’s putting it politely.

Im really amazed how sanghis can twist facts
PCB never wanted hybrid model. It was imposed by ICC because BCCI refused to travel to Pak for CT 2025. ICC made a decision to accomodate BCCI because they were the ones who refused to trave. ICC did nt expell BCCI like they expelled Bangaldesh. PCB refused to travel to India as consequence so ICC made arrangement of Hybrid for Pakistn too. Stop making it sound like Pak wanted Hybrid and got it. it was arranged by ICC because BCCI refused to travel

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

None of PCB's business. Even BCB isn't escalating the issue any further, but PCB like always has decided to shoot itself in the foot with this fake bravado, trying to play a hero no one ever asked for. Another egg on Naqvi's face awaits.

It is PCB's Business. Pakistan got bitter end of the deal . CT 2025 changed to Hybrid. So pcb is rightly asking the question. why different treatment ? Wht did nt PCB get to keep whole of CT 2025 and India Expelled like BD?

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Im really amazed how sanghis can twist facts
PCB never wanted hybrid model. It was imposed by ICC because BCCI refused to travel to Pak for CT 2025. ICC made a decision to accomodate BCCI because they were the ones who refused to trave. ICC did nt expell BCCI like they expelled Bangaldesh. PCB refused to travel to India as consequence so ICC made arrangement of Hybrid for Pakistn too. Stop making it sound like Pak wanted Hybrid and got it. it was arranged by ICC because BCCI refused to travel

The PCB demanded a hybrid model for itself just like the one given to India. And got it. Which means the PCB got what it wanted, it was given what it wanted.

But yes India got it first. How does that make a difference to the argument? I repeat - the PCB got what it wanted. And then choose to ignore it.

Also what’s with this Sanghi thing? Should I call you a bearded Mulla then?

 

[Hikaru]

It is PCB's Business. Pakistan got bitter end of the deal . CT 2025 changed to Hybrid. So pcb is rightly asking the question. why different treatment ? Wht did nt PCB get to keep whole of CT 2025 and India Expelled like BD?

It's not PCB's business ever since it agreed to a more than generous *** for tat arrangement for them.

They have refused to play a member nation protesting on behalf of someone who themselves have accepted the ICC verdict.

Any unbiased person can predict what's gonna happen next. Only question is, how bad will it get for the PCB.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

The PCB demanded a hybrid model for itself just like the one given to India. And got it. Which means the PCB got what it wanted, it was given what it wanted.

But yes India got it first. How does that make a difference to the argument? I repeat - the PCB got what it wanted. And then choose to ignore it.

Also what’s with this Sanghi thing? Should I call you a bearded Mulla then?

pcb got it what wanted lol

you make no sense

ICC arranged hybrid model for BCCI . so to balance out they gave Lolipop of Hybrid to Pak till 2027 as well. stop making it sound like PCB wish

But Expulsion of BD created new situation. BD did nt get same treatment as BCCI. because like BCCI , BD had security concerns but instead of giving them hybrid , They got expelled . PCB ia pointing out double standards

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

It's not PCB's business ever since it agreed to a more than generous *** for tat arrangement for them.

They have refused to play a member nation protesting on behalf of someone who themselves have accepted the ICC verdict.

Any unbiased person can predict what's gonna happen next. Only question is, how bad will it get for the PCB.

PCB agreed yes but Expulsion of BD exposed double standards where ICC made a procedural change . So it is PCB's Business. Ideally they would have liked the same thing. Deny BCCI neutral venue like it denied to BD

 

[RexRex]

Right now the PCB is quivering in their boots and scratching their heads, wondering what to do.. they didn't realise the ICC would go full rambo on them. Any climbdown now will be humiliating for the kooky Mohsin Naqvi.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

I strongly doubt whether expulsion from future tournaments is on the agenda, possible or even desirable.

 

[Rana]

Right now the PCB is quivering in their boots and scratching their heads, wondering what to do.. they didn't realise the ICC would go full rambo on them. Any climbdown now will be humiliating for the kooky Mohsin Naqvi.

What’s going full Rambo?

What have the ICC done?

 

[RexRex]

What’s going full Rambo?

What have the ICC done?

You'll find out soon.

 

[Red-Indian]

Well Cricinfo has scored a coup and got itself a copy of the confidential MPA and had it reviewed by a couple of fancy lawyers. Key points

- Yes government instructions are specifically included in the 'Force Majeure' clause. So the PCB does have cover
- There is however a grey area on whether the PSB can be considered legally separate from the Pakistan government since the government nominates the Chairman
- There is also a gray area on whether such a partial Force Majeure would apply - just one game etc.
- If the ICC determines that a partial Force Majeure is not applicable, they do have the rights to suspend or even terminate membership

This is going to end up in the courts.

@rpant_gabba, next we'll have to wait for a copy of the broadcasting rights agreement to leak.

 

[Rana]

You'll find out soon.

Tell me, I probably know more than you as it is. But let’s hear your version of “Rambo mode”.

 

[Rana]

@RexRex Rambo, ab bhaagna nahi hai…

What’s Rambo Mode ICC v Pakistan?

 

[Local.Dada]

Tell me, I probably know more than you as it is. But let’s hear your version of “Rambo mode”.

What has going against ICC/BCCI really achieve for PCB so far?

In fact dare I say ICC and indirectly BCCI needs to get a lot of credit for keeping Pak cricket alive after 2009 terror incident.

PSL didn’t start till 2015-2016 correct me if I am wrong and franchise leagues don’t make profit in the first year itself unless it works differently in Pakistan.

Ramiz Raza and Najam Sethi are not totally less or more qualified to run cricket than Naqvi. They know the damage bravado would cause. It’s one thing to say we will crush them in a match but Off field things work differently.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The issue is that the financial hit will compound if they ban Pakistan.

The ICC can barely digest losing out on February 15th's match, I find it hard to believe they will have the stomach to take multiple hits going well into the future.

Bro,

There is no certanity that indo pakmatch will happen in next tournament so they can remove that uncertainty and negotiate with the broadcaster with no indo pak game, w

Pakistan has played the only card they had, if icc reacts negatively pcb has no Counter

 

[Rana]

What has going against ICC/BCCI really achieve for PCB so far?

In fact dare I say ICC and indirectly BCCI needs to get a lot of credit for keeping Pak cricket alive after 2009 terror incident.

PSL didn’t start till 2015-2016 correct me if I am wrong and franchise leagues don’t make profit in the first year itself unless it works differently in Pakistan.

Ramiz Raza and Najam Sethi are not totally less or more qualified to run cricket than Naqvi. They know the damage bravado would cause. It’s one thing to say we will crush them in a match but Off field things work differently.

Bongiya na Maar.

Rambo mode ki definition bata bas.

 

[Local.Dada]

Bongiya na Maar.

Rambo mode ki definition bata bas.

Rambo movie dekhi hai?

Chalo tere liye- Ghayal/Ghatak mode

 

[Rana]

Bruh these Indians

 

[Rana]

Pakistan has played the only card they had, if icc reacts negatively pcb has no Counter

Ok,

Well say goodbye to $500m

 

[cricketjoshila]

What has going against ICC/BCCI really achieve for PCB so far?

In fact dare I say ICC and indirectly BCCI needs to get a lot of credit for keeping Pak cricket alive after 2009 terror incident.

PSL didn’t start till 2015-2016 correct me if I am wrong and franchise leagues don’t make profit in the first year itself unless it works differently in Pakistan.

Ramiz Raza and Najam Sethi are not totally less or more qualified to run cricket than Naqvi. They know the damage bravado would cause. It’s one thing to say we will crush them in a match but Off field things work differently.

Naqvi is just playing to the anti India galleries in pakistan to prop up his political career, rameez and sethi didn't have this compulsion and they knew the actual damages pcb msy face

 

[Rana]

Naqvi is just playing to the anti India galleries in pakistan to prop up his political career, rameez and sethi didn't have this compulsion and they knew the actual damages pcb msy face

Well, Rameez and Sethi had no direct exposure to the full Pakistan treasury either did they?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ok,

Well say goodbye to $500m

Thats already gone and accounted for once pcb boycotts the match, icc will react to that boycott, pcb cannot boycott the same match again

 

[Rana]

Thats already gone and accounted for once pcb boycotts the match, icc will react to that boycott, pcb cannot boycott the same match again

Good. You’ve done your maths on behalf of the ICC and World cricket.

PCB have done their’s too.

 

[Local.Dada]

Ok,

Well say goodbye to $500m

You will watch associate matches too this worldcup (compliment for your passion), so unless you watch on pirate streams, don’t worry, tere taraf se 0 nuksaan

 

[Rana]

You will watch associate matches too this worldcup (compliment for your passion), so unless you watch on pirate streams, don’t worry, tere taraf se 0 nuksaan

Ok. And that worries me how? India ko tou Bamb** de diya na?

The $500m golden goose…gone! Finished! Ended!

Why would Pakistan care now?

 

[ethan hunt]

Why are Indians crying after the PCB refusal?

1)- Money
2)- National Interest was a drama
3)- No self respect
4)-They are obsessed with Pakistan
5)-All of the above

 

[cricketjoshila]

Good. You’ve done your maths on behalf of the ICC and World cricket.

PCB have done their’s too.

Bcb did theirs and are now sitting outside the tournament and crying

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why are Indians crying after the PCB refusal?

1)- Money
2)- National Interest was a drama
3)- No self respect
4)-They are obsessed with Pakistan
5)-All of the above

Who is crying? Bcci hasnt even bothered to comment

 

[Rana]

Bcb did theirs and are now sitting outside the tournament and crying

Ok.

Pakistan has to cry or endure itself. Don’t worry. That’s our problem

 

[charlie007]

Ok. And that worries me how? India ko tou Bamboo de diya na?

The $500m golden goose…gone! Finished! Ended!

Why would Pakistan care now?

India ka nahin ICC ka nuksaan hai. It’s going to impact other boards including Pakistan more than it will impact BCCI. But as they say, picture abhi baaki hai …

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Who is crying? Bcci hasnt even bothered to comment

O yes, then why this fuss... Let bygones be bygone.... Go focus on IPL 2026. Would be a fun tourny

 

[ethan hunt]

Who is crying? Bcci hasnt even bothered to comment

Indian ex players, your journalists, everywhere on the media. They are crying.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Well Cricinfo has scored a coup and got itself a copy of the confidential MPA and had it reviewed by a couple of fancy lawyers. Key points

- Yes government instructions are specifically included in the 'Force Majeure' clause. So the PCB does have cover
- There is however a grey area on whether the PSB can be considered legally separate from the Pakistan government since the government nominates the Chairman
- There is also a gray area on whether such a partial Force Majeure would apply - just one game etc.
- If the ICC determines that a partial Force Majeure is not applicable, they do have the rights to suspend or even terminate membership

This is going to end up in the courts.

@rpant_gabba, next we'll have to wait for a copy of the broadcasting rights agreement to leak.

The use of government was very clear cover. I believe they have studied this agreement in detail and that's why they decided a. To boycott just one match and b. To use government as cover.
In Pakistan Mohsin Naqvi is more senior than Shabaz Sharif at the moment. So it didn't make much sense for him to seek approval. I think it was done this way specifically for this circumstance.

ICC can suspend boards for government interference. For whatever reason they haven't suspended PCB before. I believe SLCB was suspended for a bit. I wonder if this "approval" by ICC ( more like acceptance) is legally enough for PCB to navigate the the grey area of government control and demonstrate that they have been separate to the government in the eyes of the ICC.

 

[Rana]

India ka nahin ICC ka nuksaan hai. It’s going to impact other boards including Pakistan more than it will impact BCCI. But as they say, picture abhi baaki hai …

Tou theek hai na.

Should have thought about all of this in September. Might as well let it run its course now.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Bro,

There is no certanity that indo pakmatch will happen in next tournament so they can remove that uncertainty and negotiate with the broadcaster with no indo pak game, w

Pakistan has played the only card they had, if icc reacts negatively pcb has no Counter

So why Indian Media is floating news of Sabotaging PSL and Bi lateral cricket for Pakistan Removing Pak from ICC tournament is not enough? Why going extra mile if ICC aka BCCI is nt effected much

 

[AndayWalaAllRounder]

The use of government was very clear cover. I believe they have studied this agreement in detail and that's why they decided a. To boycott just one match and b. To use government as cover.
In Pakistan Mohsin Naqvi is more senior than Shabaz Sharif at the moment. So it didn't make much sense for him to seek approval. I think it was done this way specifically for this circumstance.

ICC can suspend boards for government interference. For whatever reason they haven't suspended PCB before. I believe SLCB was suspended for a bit. I wonder if this "approval" by ICC ( more like acceptance) is legally enough for PCB to navigate the the grey area of government control and demonstrate that they have been separate to the government in the eyes of the ICC.

ICC cannot suspend a country or board for declining one match..

 

[Slim]

I dare ICC and BCCI to even think of doing this. Aukat!

Joh ukharna hai ukhar lo, we dont want to play you.

 

[Slim]

So why Indian Media is floating news of Sabotaging PSL and Bi lateral cricket for Pakistan Removing Pak from ICC tournament is not enough? Why going extra mile if ICC aka BCCI is nt effected much

India media moved the CT in Pakistan to South Africa and India. The fake news factory of the world.

 

[kingusama92]

Bro,

There is no certanity that indo pakmatch will happen in next tournament so they can remove that uncertainty and negotiate with the broadcaster with no indo pak game, w

Pakistan has played the only card they had, if icc reacts negatively pcb has no Counter

Of course, but that negotiation is going to come at a reduced price which will hurt all boards.

There were already murmurs that the Star Sports contract WITH Indo-Pak matches wasn't as lucrative as they had imagined. This is only going to make things worse for the ICC.

There's also an additional long-term issue of not letting the PCB drift too far away and thus encouraging the separation of cricket boards from the ICC. When one does it, others might follow in the future. Even the BCCI might be encouraged by the idea of just doing its own thing since the IPL rakes in money anyway.

 

[emranabbas]

Right now the PCB is quivering in their boots and scratching their heads, wondering what to do.. they didn't realise the ICC would go full rambo on them. Any climbdown now will be humiliating for the kooky Mohsin Naqvi.

What has icc done other than back channel talks to convince pakistan to play india?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I dare ICC and BCCI to even think of doing this. Aukat!

Joh ukharna hai ukhar lo, we dont want to play you.

Thanks brother, you didn't become stone cold here....keep the emotions in check and enjoy the situation