To dog lovers: Why would you own a dangerous attack dog breed?

[MenInG]

I am reading about dogs killing people and wondering why you would have such as dog in the first place? Is it a status symbol?

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American Bully XL dogs are to be banned in the UK by the end of the year, the country's Prime Minster Rishi Sunak has announced.

It comes after a man in England died following what Mr Sunak described as "another suspected XL bully attack" on Thursday. It was the latest in a series of deadly incidents.

Mr Sunak said he had ordered work to legally define the breed behind the recent attacks so it can be banned under the Dangerous Dogs Act, which applies in England, Wales and Scotland.

What is an American bully XL?

The XL is the largest of four types of American Bully: standard, pocket, classic and XL.

Strong enough to overpower an adult, the American bully XL can weigh more than nine stone (60kg).

American Bullies are said to have originated in the US in the late 1980s, when American Pit Bull Terriers and American Staffordshire Terriers were crossed.

They have been crossed with other breeds to create an even more muscular dog.

The United Kennel Club in the US says that an American Bully "makes an excellent family dog" with a "gentle and friendly" demeanour, "despite its powerful appearance".

It says that "some level of dog aggression is characteristic of this breed" but also notes "aggressive behaviour towards humans is uncharacteristic".

While the US recognises the American Bully as a specific breed, the main British dog associations do not.

According to UK campaign group Bully Watch, the breed only appeared in the UK "around 2014 or 2015", with numbers growing rapidly during the coronavirus pandemic.

How many attacks have there been in UK?

American Bullies have been involved in several high-profile attacks in the UK.

The most recent suspected attack happened in Walsall, in England's West Midlands region. Following the man's death, Mr Sunak announced his decision to seek a ban on the breed.

An 11-year-old girl was attacked by an American bully XL in Birmingham on Saturday. Two men who intervened were also treated in hospital after being bitten by the animal.

In April, a 65-year-old grandmother was killed after she tried to break up a fight between her two American bullies at her home in Liverpool. The coroner noted that she had been found with "catastrophic injuries".

Last year, a 17-month-old toddler was mauled to death in her own home by one of the dogs in St Helens, one week after her family had bought it.

And in 2021, 10-year-old Jack Lis died from severe neck and head injuries after he was attacked by an American bully XL in Caerphilly, Wales. His mother, Emma Whitfield, has called for the dogs to be banned.

Are they banned in other countries?

American Bullies are illegal in Turkey and the United Arab Emirates.

The breed is also restricted in some countries, including the Republic of Ireland, where any American Bully must be muzzled and on a leash no longer than 2m (6ft 7in) when out in public.

Which dog breeds are banned in the UK?
Under the UK's Dangerous Dogs Act, which prohibits any dog that is "dangerously out of control", it is against the law to own the following breeds:

Pit Bull Terrier
Japanese Tosa
Dogo Argentinos
Fila Brazileiro

Dogs that share physical characteristics to the banned breeds - such as cross breeds - are also banned.

What happens if you have a banned breed in the UK?

The police or local council dog wardens can take away the dog and keep it, even if it is not acting dangerously and no complaint has been made.

If the matter ends up in court, it is the owner's responsibility to prove their dog is not a banned type. If they cannot prove it or plead guilty, they will be convicted of a crime for which the penalty is an unlimited fine or up to six months in prison. The dog will also be destroyed.

BBC

 

[KingKhanWC]

The UK dangerous dogs act aims to punish/kill dogs when owners are clueless.

My friends and family have kept Mastifs, Pit Bull terriers, Rotwielers etc , all very well behaved. In fact most of the banned dogs are working dogs, they have been used for thousands of years for protection. These dogs bought up correctly, are very protective of family, great with even small children and more loyal than any human can be.

The liberals in the UK are idiots, annoying and clueless. They sit there grinning with glee at the thought of killing off dogs.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The XL bully isnt an actual breed of its own, so not sure how this will be banned.

I have a friend who's son owns one, beautiful animal. He wont be putting it down if banned.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Dogs are disgusting. They have their utility in security related stuff. Other than that, they are nothing but nuisance and pests. Furthermore, it costs money for their care and food.

In America, dog ownership is an epidemic. Everyone owns a dog and they all have human names. They poop and pee on the lawns and the owners hand pick poop

 

[bones]

Dogs are disgusting. They have their utility in security related stuff. Other than that, they are nothing but nuisance and pests. Furthermore, it costs money for their care and food.

In America, dog ownership is an epidemic. Everyone owns a dog and they all have human names. They poop and pee on the lawns and the owners hand pick poop

100% agree. Dogs are vile.

Pitbulls in particular should be exterminated completely. They were bred to be extremely aggressive and unlike other dogs they are very difficult to control.

How many poodles or labradors kill young children? How many times must we lose people to these dogs only to see the owner walk away with a slap on the wrist.

Well done to our government for finally doing something right.

 

[bones]

The XL bully isnt an actual breed of its own, so not sure how this will be banned.

I have a friend who's son owns one, beautiful animal. He wont be putting it down if banned.

Beautiful? These unnatural beasts bred by humans for one purpose alone need to be wiped off the face of the earth. Hopefully someone reports him and he gets his punishment like every other owner. Tell the families of those who have been killed by them to their face these are the nice animals and see if you aren't told otherwise.

 

[The_KING]

Cats are way better than dogs. I never understand the obsession westerners have with dogs tbh.

 

[Hitman]

I love dogs, but hate cats. Labrador Retrievers and Golden Retrievers are awesome.

 

[Mamoon]

Dogs as pets are overrated. If you need an animal to be loyal to you you must have a pretty sad life.

Who cares - it is gonna be dead in 10 years anyway.

My father has an obsession with dogs and he has always had a German Shepherd in the house but never developed any affinity for any one of them.

They are disgusting and high maintenance for sure, but I don’t agree that they are “dangerous” and certain breeds should be banned.

The so-called dangerous breeds require an experienced, knowledgeable owner. Pitbulls, Rottweilers, Dobermann, even German Shepherds etc. are not recommended breeds for first time owners, it is always better to start with docile breeds like Lab and Retrievers.

You can’t blame the breed when the owner has no idea how to handle them. A dog attacking someone is not the dog’s fault but the owners.

There is no way to regular who can or cannot own a specific breed so you can’t just ban the breed altogether. People who are experienced and knowledgeable to handle such breeds should have the right to keep them as pets.

Dogs are definitely disgusting animals and those wondering why the western world is obsessed with having them as pets should know that the reason is very simple.

The family system is broken in the west. Everyone is obsessed with being independent and living on their own, divorce rates are very high etc.

Most people lack companionship and warmth in their relationships which why they need pets - especially dogs because of their loyalty - to compensate for the lack of human connection.

 

[MenInG]

A hunting breed kept indoors or muzzled or neutered or trained to kill off all its attacking instincts.

1. Wrong on a humane level
2. Wrong on a purely Islamic level (in my view)

 

[MenInG]

A police officer was left with "serious bite injuries" after being attacked by a dog believed to be an XL bully.

The Leicestershire Police officer was called to a property in Ibstock, near Coalville, in search of a wanted man at around 4.40pm on Thursday, the force said.

SKY

 

[Suleiman]

If you have a dangerous breed or a dog in general, and it ends up attacking and injuring / killing someone, you need to go to jail. Simple.

So many news stories in the US and I’m sure rest of the world where these animals attack little kids coming off the school bus, going to the park or whatever.

If you can’t be responsible for your pet and train them properly, and they hurt someone- enjoy prison.

 

[IMMY69]

As someone who has owned and lost two beautiful German Shepherds, I can't speak highly enough of the love and joy and you get from owning dogs.

Having said that I am petrified of these XL Bully Dogs and other dangerous breeds especially when owners have absolutely no idea on how to control them.

In my opinion Certain breeds should be banned whilst every owner should have to attend training classes and hold a licence to be an owner regardless of breed.

Breeders should also have to have a license.

Currently it's far to unregulated and the ones that are harmed the most are the dogs themselves.

 

[bones]

As someone who has owned and lost two beautiful German Shepherds, I can't speak highly enough of the love and joy and you get from owning dogs.

Having said that I am petrified of these XL Bully Dogs and other dangerous breeds especially when owners have absolutely no idea on how to control them.

In my opinion Certain breeds should be banned whilst every owner should have to attend training classes and hold a licence to be an owner regardless of breed.

Most dogs have been bred by humans for a purpose. Certain dogs have been bred to help with farming, others for companionship, some as retrievers. These XL bully type dogs have been bred for fighting. In some cases they have reported these XL dogs have been bred by the same dad 5 times over. That means the mother, grand mother, great grandmother etc all mated with the same male dog.

They are absolutely hideous - in some picures they look nightmarish.

By the way they say German Shepherds have a stronger bite force - not sure how they calculate it, but even with that stronger bite you rarely if ever hear about them attacking anyone.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

German shepherds and huskies are the only dogs I like because they look like wolves, and I liked them before GOT which has made them trendy these days. I have had them back in my teens but I couldn't be bothered with them now, far too much maintenance. Cats are much better pets, they look after themselves, and aren't as clingy. Dogs think the whole world revolves around you which can get a bit much.

 

[IMMY69]

A hunting breed kept indoors or muzzled or neutered or trained to kill off all its attacking instincts.

1. Wrong on a humane level
2. Wrong on a purely Islamic level (in my view)

Your second point is valid, not just from a religious but from a morality point of view. Something I have struggled with myself.

Most dogs have been bred by humans for a purpose. Certain dogs have been bred to help with farming, others for companionship, some as retrievers. These XL bully type dogs have been bred for fighting. In some cases they have reported these XL dogs have been bred by the same dad 5 times over. That means the mother, grand mother, great grandmother etc all mated with the same male dog.

They are absolutely hideous - in some picures they look nightmarish.

By the way they say German Shepherds have a stronger bite force - not sure how they calculate it, but even with that stronger bite you rarely if ever hear about them attacking anyone.

German Shepherds are an extremely clever breed and if trained properly at a young they make a great family dog. Yes they are extremely protective of their owners but if brought up properly they are not unpredictable and follow commands well.

 

[IMMY69]

People always told me about the dogs in Turkey but when I visited Istanbul recently I couldn't believe my eyes...

They're literally everywhere...
All breeds including large German Shepherds... they just roam around in packs, I didn't witness any aggression towards other dogs/breeds and thousands of people (mainly tourists) just walked by (sometimes around them) and the dogs didn't flinch once..

At first I thought they must be drugged, how can they be so docile?
But browsing the web I found out that the Turkish people absolutely adore them. They feed them, there is an inoculation programme, they're tagged and left to roam the streets.

Aggressive breeds just taking in the afternoon sun without a care in the world...

Whereas here in Blighty, if you come face to face with any dog, turn and run, they will invariably chase you...

So much has to do with environment and nurturing

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

People always told me about the dogs in Turkey but when I visited Istanbul recently I couldn't believe my eyes...

They're literally everywhere...
All breeds including large German Shepherds... they just roam around in packs, I didn't witness any aggression towards other dogs/breeds and thousands of people (mainly tourists) just walked by (sometimes around them) and the dogs didn't flinch once..

At first I thought they must be drugged, how can they be so docile?
But browsing the web I found out that the Turkish people absolutely adore them. They feed them, there is an inoculation programme, they're tagged and left to roam the streets.

Aggressive breeds just taking in the afternoon sun without a care in the world...

Whereas here in Blighty, if you come face to face with any dog, turn and run, they will invariably chase you...

So much has to do with environment and nurturing

Dogs and cats roam around freely all over Turkey, I don't remember ever seeing a dog chasing a cat over there. No idea what is going on there, maybe even the animals just take on the chilled out vibe over there and would rather spend their time soaking up the sun.

 

[sweep_shot]

I was never a dog person. Always loved non-dangerous pets like cats, hamsters, bunnies etc.

Dangerous dog breeds should be banned (Pitbull, for example).

Having said that, I do not hate dogs. They tend to be loyal which I appreciate.

 

[Champ_Pal]

I was never a dog person. Always loved non-dangerous pets like cats, hamsters, bunnies etc.

Dangerous dog breeds should be banned (Pitbull, for example).

Having said that, I do not hate dogs. They tend to be loyal which I appreciate.

Most dogs are feral in subcontinent. Even if the dog has an owner, the dog is leashed all day and it irritates the dog. It keeps barking all day and night at every random thing it sees. Extremely irritating for everyone especially for senior citizens.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Bhutan becomes first country to declare entire street dogs fully sterilised

The Buddhist Kingdom of Bhutan has become the first country in the world to declare its entire street dog population fully sterilised and vaccinated following years of investment in a humane dog management programme with global animal charity Humane Society International (HSI).

At the formal closing ceremony of National Dog Population Management and Rabies Control Project in the capital Thimphu, presided over by Prime Minister Lotay Tshering, the Royal Government of Bhutan announced this historic achievement for animal welfare and human health.

At the ceremony, Prime Minister Tshering presented HSI with a plaque in recognition of its support towards Bhutan's street dog welfare success from the beginning in 2009 until its closure, thereby honouring a decade and a half of intensive, targeted spay or neuter work and community engagement initiatives carried out by Bhutan in partnership with HSI.

Since its inception, the project has successfully sterilised and vaccinated more than 150,000 street dogs and micro-chipped 32,000 pet dogs.

There are approximately 300 million street dogs across Asia who battle starvation, untreated diseases and parasitic infections, transmissible cancers, injuries from road traffic accidents, as well as direct persecution and inhumane culling.

Source: Gulf News

 

[KingKhanWC]

Beautiful? These unnatural beasts bred by humans for one purpose alone need to be wiped off the face of the earth. Hopefully someone reports him and he gets his punishment like every other owner. Tell the families of those who have been killed by them to their face these are the nice animals and see if you aren't told otherwise.

Dogs only acts/behave according to their upbringing and environment.

These breeds are known as working dogs, such breeds have been used by man for thousands of years.

Working dogs are bred for protection, therefore they are very safe around the family and those the family allows. They are more safer around family than most small dogs.

Ive been around Mastifs, Cane Corse, Pitbulls and many more , nothing to be worried about if the dog has been raised properly.

The owners should be punished. The UK has now banned XL Bullys from 31st December. Its a silly political view from a government which supports butchering kids by bombs, they dont care about dog bites or attacks.

 

[bones]

Dogs only acts/behave according to their upbringing and environment.

The government had no choise but to ban these dogs - they were responsible for more attacks than any other in the UK in the last 3 years.

It is isn't about the upbrining, there are plenty of videos on youtube that show even with the best upbringing and under the ownership of highly experienced dog owners they just snap. It could be a child playing in the neighbouring garden or someone running down the street or even another dog barking, but they just snap.

My friend works in the police and he says over the last few years there are more and more and more cases of dog attacks being reported and the majority of the attacks are by these Bully dogs. He says at least twice a month he has to deal with such cases.

Anyone who buys/owns of these dogs is selfish. I hope these dogs are wiped off the face of the earth.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The government had no choise but to ban these dogs - they were responsible for more attacks than any other in the UK in the last 3 years.

It is isn't about the upbrining, there are plenty of videos on youtube that show even with the best upbringing and under the ownership of highly experienced dog owners they just snap. It could be a child playing in the neighbouring garden or someone running down the street or even another dog barking, but they just snap.

My friend works in the police and he says over the last few years there are more and more and more cases of dog attacks being reported and the majority of the attacks are by these Bully dogs. He says at least twice a month he has to deal with such cases.

Anyone who buys/owns of these dogs is selfish. I hope these dogs are wiped off the face of the earth.

Have you ever kept a dog?

 

[bones]

Here is another fresh mauling.

Have you ever kept a dog?

No.

Here's another attack today:

XL Bully escapes home and mauls seven year old child

Holly Dodd was in her home with her door open when her boyfriend's XL Bully suddenly ran out of the house and attacked a seven-year-old girl outside in Ellesmere Port, Cheshire.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Just at how hideous it is - enormous ugly nasty thing that thankfully has been put down.

 

[bones]

Here is another article just a few days ago and within the article you can see a video of how it takes two policemen with all the right gear to control these beasts.

What chance does a child playing in the street have?
What chance would you elderly, pregnant or weak loved ones have?

Pair arrested after woman and her dogs seriously injured in suspected XL bully attack

A total of five dogs have been seized by police while the victim remains in hospital with severe injuries.

news.sky.com

 

[KingKhanWC]

Here is another fresh mauling.

No.

Here's another attack today:

XL Bully escapes home and mauls seven year old child

Holly Dodd was in her home with her door open when her boyfriend's XL Bully suddenly ran out of the house and attacked a seven-year-old girl outside in Ellesmere Port, Cheshire.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Just at how hideous it is - enormous ugly nasty thing that thankfully has been put down.

There really is no need to be scared of dogs. It seems to be very common with Asians for some reason

Most dog attacks in the UK come from Jack Russell's. Should they be banned too?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Here is another article just a few days ago and within the article you can see a video of how it takes two policemen with all the right gear to control these beasts.

What chance does a child playing in the street have?
What chance would you elderly, pregnant or weak loved ones have?

Pair arrested after woman and her dogs seriously injured in suspected XL bully attack

A total of five dogs have been seized by police while the victim remains in hospital with severe injuries.

news.sky.com

All Dogs in the UK should be on a lead in public.

You will see a lot of articles from MSM to help the government propaganda. Any dog attack, the owner should do time in jail, this will soon change the bad owners.

 

[bones]

There really is no need to be scared of dogs. It seems to be very common with Asians for some reason

Most dog attacks in the UK come from Jack Russell's. Should they be banned too?

Are you really comparing Jack Russell attacks to XL Bully attacks? One you could drop kick 50 yards the other required 2 full grown men or more to control even if that's possible.

This is more of the lunacy from pro XL Bully people.

 

[bones]

All Dogs in the UK should be on a lead in public.

You will see a lot of articles from MSM to help the government propaganda. Any dog attack, the owner should do time in jail, this will soon change the bad owners.

All dogs should I agree, but these types of dogs should have been muzzled but now they'll be slowly handed over to the shelters until hopefully they are completely eradicated from our shores altogether.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Are you really comparing Jack Russell attacks to XL Bully attacks? One you could drop kick 50 yards the other required 2 full grown men or more to control even if that's possible.

This is more of the lunacy from pro XL Bully people.

A toddler or baby cannot kick any dog.

Week-old baby died after being bitten by jack russell, inquest hears

Harry Harper died of head injuries after being bitten by the normally 'mild-mannered' dog, Telford coroner's court told

www.theguardian.com

Baby mauled to death by Jack Russell and bull terrier

Call for Parliament to amend 'flawed' Dangerous Dogs Act after three-month-old infant is attacked by family pets at his grandmother's house

www.independent.co.uk

Mother warns potential dog owners after Jack Russell attacks infant son - Extra.ie

A woman has warned potential dog owners after her Jack Russell terrier attacked her infant son.

extra.ie

Jack Russels are more prone to attack humans than working dogs. Working dogs are more prone to attack other dogs.

ANY dog and harm or kill a human, its the owners.

Lets check your knowledge.. list the dogs you think ARE SAFE to keep as pets in the UK?

 

[bones]

A toddler or baby cannot kick any dog.

Week-old baby died after being bitten by jack russell, inquest hears

Harry Harper died of head injuries after being bitten by the normally 'mild-mannered' dog, Telford coroner's court told

www.theguardian.com

Baby mauled to death by Jack Russell and bull terrier

Call for Parliament to amend 'flawed' Dangerous Dogs Act after three-month-old infant is attacked by family pets at his grandmother's house

www.independent.co.uk

Mother warns potential dog owners after Jack Russell attacks infant son - Extra.ie

A woman has warned potential dog owners after her Jack Russell terrier attacked her infant son.

extra.ie

Jack Russels are more prone to attack humans than working dogs. Working dogs are more prone to attack other dogs.

ANY dog and harm or kill a human, its the owners.

Lets check your knowledge.. list the dogs you think ARE SAFE to keep as pets in the UK?

I'm not an expert on this matter and clearly you aren't either. But, if the government has gone out of it's way to rush through a law on this breed we all know why.

The two articles you've referenced by the way are dated 2009, 2020 and 2013, several years apart. How many articles do you think there are for the Bully XL breed in the last month alone?

Any dog can harm or kill people agreed. But the chances of a Bully XL dog killing you is three times what all other breeds combined is.

Dogs are filthy. Every house I have ever been to with a dog in particular had a wretched stench and all the dogs and furniture had been scratched. I could see wads of hair all over. They poo and with that same filthy bottom, they sit on the same furniture and people's laps. Do we do that? No, because of bacteria. Most dog owners, probably 90% + don't even wipe dogs down after they've been outside. They could be bringing in mud, dirt or worse.

The reason I wouldn't ever own a dog is because they are filthy, all the reasons above.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I'm not an expert on this matter and clearly you aren't either. But, if the government has gone out of it's way to rush through a law on this breed we all know why.

The two articles you've referenced by the way are dated 2009, 2020 and 2013, several years apart. How many articles do you think there are for the Bully XL breed in the last month alone?

Any dog can harm or kill people agreed. But the chances of a Bully XL dog killing you is three times what all other breeds combined is.

Dogs are filthy. Every house I have ever been to with a dog in particular had a wretched stench and all the dogs and furniture had been scratched. I could see wads of hair all over. They poo and with that same filthy bottom, they sit on the same furniture and people's laps. Do we do that? No, because of bacteria. Most dog owners, probably 90% + don't even wipe dogs down after they've been outside. They could be bringing in mud, dirt or worse.

The reason I wouldn't ever own a dog is because they are filthy, all the reasons above.

It seems you have a personal hatred of dogs and are spouting anything to fit this hate.

I've already stated Jack Russells harm more than any other breed, not everyone dies and not everyone dies from a bite/attack from any other dog.

This is the same government which has been telling you Ukraine is winning lol but all of a sudden because of your phobia of dogs, you are taking them as gospel.

XL Bullys or Pit Bulls dont attack if bought up correctly. In the same way a Porsche 911 doesnt kill if driven properly.

As a Muslim I dont keep dogs in the house, they are more healthy living outdoors. I dont have a dog atm but my friends have built the dog its own house, in a large area which is sealed. The dogs are the best protectors of property and family, which is why they are amazing creatures.

My advice is to simply stay away from dogs, if you are scared walk across the other side of the road..

But dont run....ever... they will think you are playing and run after you. I would to see tbh.

 

[bones]

It seems you have a personal hatred of dogs and are spouting anything to fit this hate.

I've already stated Jack Russells harm more than any other breed, not everyone dies and not everyone dies from a bite/attack from any other dog.

This is the same government which has been telling you Ukraine is winning lol but all of a sudden because of your phobia of dogs, you are taking them as gospel.

XL Bullys or Pit Bulls dont attack if bought up correctly. In the same way a Porsche 911 doesnt kill if driven properly.

As a Muslim I dont keep dogs in the house, they are more healthy living outdoors. I dont have a dog atm but my friends have built the dog its own house, in a large area which is sealed. The dogs are the best protectors of property and family, which is why they are amazing creatures.

My advice is to simply stay away from dogs, if you are scared walk across the other side of the road..

But dont run....ever... they will think you are playing and run after you. I would to see tbh.

I don't have a hatred for dogs. I state facts when I say they are filthy. I guess you couldn't counter this point so hence calling me a hater.

Just because I stated correctly that dogs filthy doesn't make me a hater.

As for the argument that Bully dogs don't attack if brought up correctly - total hogwash. Typical pro-bully crap not backed up by the evidence. We've seen very caring and experienced owners being attacked by their own dogs. We've seen and heard of so many instances of well trained Bully dogs snap without any provocation, unless you call kids playing football provocation.

Why do people even own these dogs? What's wrong with labradors, poodles or retrievers? I'll tell you why they own them, a status, showing the world and others how big and tough they are. There's a reason why gangs and other criminals own them.

Your analogy with a Porsche is pathetic. One is a motor vehicle and the other is an animal with an instinct of it's own. The Porchse cannot move or change direction by it's own will. A dog can move and attack by it's own will. Terrible terrible analogy.

As for advice on dogs - perhaps you should save for the owners of these dangerous dogs. Why the hell should people have to change their behaviour because it might trigger someone else's dog? How about owners of these dogs do their job and control their dog. More nonsense.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I don't have a hatred for dogs. I state facts when I say they are filthy. I guess you couldn't counter this point so hence calling me a hater.

Just because I stated correctly that dogs filthy doesn't make me a hater.

As for the argument that Bully dogs don't attack if brought up correctly - total hogwash. Typical pro-bully crap not backed up by the evidence. We've seen very caring and experienced owners being attacked by their own dogs. We've seen and heard of so many instances of well trained Bully dogs snap without any provocation, unless you call kids playing football provocation.

Why do people even own these dogs? What's wrong with labradors, poodles or retrievers? I'll tell you why they own them, a status, showing the world and others how big and tough they are. There's a reason why gangs and other criminals own them.

Your analogy with a Porsche is pathetic. One is a motor vehicle and the other is an animal with an instinct of it's own. The Porchse cannot move or change direction by it's own will. A dog can move and attack by it's own will. Terrible terrible analogy.

As for advice on dogs - perhaps you should save for the owners of these dangerous dogs. Why the hell should people have to change their behaviour because it might trigger someone else's dog? How about owners of these dogs do their job and control their dog. More nonsense.

This is my point, you've never had a dog and are clueless. A dog bought up with discipline by knowledgeable owners will not attack humans, unless they are man trained, meaning they are trained to protect home or the owner.

Which experienced owner was attacked by his/her own dog?

Ive already told you they are working dogs, ie they work to protect. Humans have kept such dogs for this reason for thousands of years.

As for being filthy, they are dogs lol. They have certain issues but again if kept right, they pose no health risk by being dogs

When were you bitten by a Bully or a big working dog and what injuries did you suffer?

 

[bones]

This is my point, you've never had a dog and are clueless. A dog bought up with discipline by knowledgeable owners will not attack humans, unless they are man trained, meaning they are trained to protect home or the owner.

Which experienced owner was attacked by his/her own dog?

Ive already told you they are working dogs, ie they work to protect. Humans have kept such dogs for this reason for thousands of years.

As for being filthy, they are dogs lol. They have certain issues but again if kept right, they pose no health risk by being dogs

When were you bitten by a Bully or a big working dog and what injuries did you suffer?

I've never owned a dog... so I'm clueless. But you compared dogs to porsches and you understand them?

Regarding dog owners and trainers being attacked, there's plenty of material online. Here's the first when I search in a browser, there's dozens more.

XL Bully dog turns on instructor and bites him during training

The TikTok video shows an XL Bully dog turning on its trainer by latching onto his leg and foot

www.ladbible.com

By the way, why are all the gangs and so called tough guys such as in music videos and movies always filmed with pitbulls and XL bullys? Why are they never filmed with other breeds like retrievers?

Just look at this video to get an idea of XL Bully owners - it's fair to say they don't talk, dress or behave like highly intelligent people do they?

Compare this to the far more civilised owners of labradors.

The majority of people in the country support this law - you can tell by the lack of people in the so called xl bully protests.

In fact they arranged a protest in my city a few weeks ago and I kid you not, less than 25 people attended.

 

[bones]

Bottom line. We win, you lose. The law is in place and now hopefully this nasty hideous breed will be gradually be removed from our shores for good. The problem is they breed like rats, they can have as many as 15 pups in a litter so it will take time to get rid.

By the way - I'm completely fine with people owning other breeds of dogs, the ones that were not bred to fight.

 

[James]

I think we (humans) have a bit of a responsibility towards dogs. Louis Theroux called them “a colonised species”, which I think is spot on.

They are domesticated wolves. We’ve specifically pulled them from the wild, bred, reared, programmed, and genetically mutilated them over thousands of years, purely to benefit ourselves - whether that’s for hunting, working, protection, companionship, showmanship, or otherwise.

It is ethically wrong what we have done. Dogs are now essentially brainwashed to fall in love with (a competent) owner and profess absolute devotion to this pack leader, who takes them in as part of their family. Dogs psychologically view the human being as an upright, two legged grey wolf and as their alpha / dominator.

As long as they are responsible people, I respect dog owners, and we need more of them. Banning breeds isn’t the answer, conversely, more people should pick up their share of the collective tab and (where safe and possible) adopt an abused or abandoned dog from a rescue shelter.

The real problem is canine population control, so what does need to change is the regulation and body of law around mating and breeding, which in western countries tends to be very loose and contributes towards the mass factory-like production of lost, confused dogs and violent, vicious dogs who — in their heads — are suffering from mental health issues after a life of brutal abuse, have come to view the human being as an enemy, and are really just trying to survive.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Bottom line. We win, you lose. The law is in place and now hopefully this nasty hideous breed will be gradually be removed from our shores for good. The problem is they breed like rats, they can have as many as 15 pups in a litter so it will take time to get rid.

By the way - I'm completely fine with people owning other breeds of dogs, the ones that were not bred to fight.

The law wont stop them. There are plenty of pit bulls in the UK, unless they attack someone and its proven they are part of the banned dogs group, they will remain.

What I agree with is wannabee gangsters and chavs wanting these, not taking care and often mixing breeds is a danger.

 

[MenInG]

The menace continues.

==

Four people have been injured, two badly, following a dog attack.

North Wales Police went to an address on the Llŷn peninsula in Gwynedd on Friday morning, after reports of a dangerous dog.

Two people were airlifted to hospital with serious injuries, and another two had minor injuries.

The dog involved was destroyed, and is yet to be examined to establish the breed. A total of 37 dogs and a number of cats were seized from the address.

Councillor Gareth Williams said the attack was in Rhydlios: "As a community, there's a sense of shock and concern at the news.

"My biggest concern is the fact that there is a public footpath not far from the house, and also families that live in close proximity."

He said that "our thoughts are with everyone concerned" and hoped that they all make a quick recovery.

Police remained in the area on Saturday while inquiries continue.

Ch Supt Sian Beck said: " We understand this was a concerning incident in the local, and wish to reassure the community that there is no further risk to the wider public.

"We have launched a joint investigation with the RSPCA."

The force are appealing for anyone with any information.

BBC

 

[ExpressPacer]

Dogs are disgusting. They have their utility in security related stuff. Other than that, they are nothing but nuisance and pests. Furthermore, it costs money for their care and food.

In America, dog ownership is an epidemic. Everyone owns a dog and they all have human names. They poop and pee on the lawns and the owners hand pick poop

Clearly you have never experienced the love a dog gives its owner.

 

[JaDed]

Love dogs but their behaviour are dependent upon various factors.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Dogs are just animals who have been bred since 10000 years to live with humans. Their loyalty is overrated, and their risks underrated. Except a few breeds like chihuahuas and pomeranian, they should be kept outdoors and should not be left alone with kids.
Childless couples and those who are lonely should get a dog, but others should invest in humans, they are more fun.

 

[BouncerGuy]

At least 246 XL bully dogs will be euthanized when a ban on the breed comes into force at the end of the year, Sky News can reveal.

The dogs currently live in rescue centres run by the RSPCA, Blue Cross, Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, Dogs Trust and Mayhew, among others.

Under the ban, which comes into force in two phases, XL bullies cannot be lawfully rehomed or sold after 31 December.

It follows a spate of recent attacks and deaths involving the breed.

Any XL bully in rescue centers in England and Wales will have to be put down unless they can be rehomed before the end of the year.

Despite rescuers being able to apply for exemptions to keep the breed, the dog would be forced to live its life out in a kennel, which charities say they would never choose for welfare reasons.

SOURCE: SKY NEWS​

 

[BouncerGuy]

Good step to save people from a dog attack. These attacks have been happening moe and more and need such regulations to control them.

 

[bones]

Clearly you have never experienced the love a dog gives its owner.

What does that have to do with his statements? Dogs are filthy and owners have to by law pick up their mess. No amount of love would have me picking up after a dog but if that's something you are OK with good for you.

 

[bones]

All those dogs in rescue centres are not being taken because people don't want to get hurt or see loved ones get hurt. Very few sensible people go for those hideous bully dogs.

 

[The_KING]

Westerners have a serious obsession with dogs. Here in the UK, every second person has a dog. I am yet to understand the hype with dogs, tbh.

 

[sweep_shot]

Love dogs but their behaviour are dependent upon various factors.

Yes. Their behaviors depend on how they were treated/raised.

If they were abused, they may behave aggressively.

I got attacked by a dog before. Didn't get injured thankfully. Owners intervened.

 

[bones]

Yes. Their behaviors depend on how they were treated/raised.

If they were abused, they may behave aggressively.

I got attacked by a dog before. Didn't get injured thankfully. Owners intervened.

How they are raised is important but even more is how humans bred them. Pitbulls and large Bully dogs were bred over and over to be aggressive. They were bred to have huge litters.

No one can seriously tell us these dogs are not more dangerous than others.

 

[Suleiman]

Some people say Islam has too many rules, but the rules are to our own benefit. One of them is to not have dogs in the house. Having them for security or hunting is allowed. But clearly the dogs attacking random kids at bus stops and parks are not there for hunting or safety. Unnecessary. Fill the void of loneliness in your life with something else. Get a wife and have kids. Done.

 

[The_KING]

One thing that really annoys me is when owners let their dogs off the leash. I have a genuine phobia of dogs and the last thing I need is some dog that is free running up to me, which has happened on a few occasions. These dog owners need to be more considerate of the public.

 

[bones]

One thing that really annoys me is when owners let their dogs off the leash. I have a genuine phobia of dogs and the last thing I need is some dog that is free running up to me, which has happened on a few occasions. These dog owners need to be more considerate of the public.

Same thing happened to my kids outside school. I wrote an email to the headteacher and said if the school doesn't deal with parents bring their nasty dogs to school then we'll need to take extra measures too. For example bringing in pepper spray.

Headteacher then sent a letter to everyone that same week, keep dogs at home.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Alsatian is a good breed if anybody wants to keep them as night watchman. Also they are agile, alert smart, loyal and quick learners.

 

[bones]

I know it's probably part of my feed due to some algorithm, but every single day I see 2/3/4 sometimes upwards of 5 reports of different dog attacks across Europe, many here in the UK. There is one common theme with these dogs attacks - the breed. It's always some type of Bully breed.

Sheffield dog attack: Man arrested and two dogs destroyed

Police are called to a report of dogs on the loose in Sheffield on Sunday.

www.yahoo.com

Will KingKhanWC still defend this breed?

 

[bones]

Another pattern is now emerging since the Bully XL ban. Many of the owners of these dogs can't be bothered to abide by the rules and pay for the relatively small fees to meet the criteria for exceptions. Instead they're handing the dogs into shelters or worse still letting them loose.

If you have a look at Pets4Sale or some local shelters for example Birmingham Dog's home, you'll see two thirds of the dogs are Staffies, Bulldogs or Bully XLs. The problem is they don't tell you the truth as to why the previous owners handed them in - usually they attacked.

Expect plenty more of these Bully XL dogs to be handed in and probably never adopted. Just about sums up the owners. Why is it that there are so few Huskys, Labradors and other breeds for sale/adoption but so many Bully XLs?

 

[bones]

I'm getting a lot of feeds in my social media from people who are totally clueless about these dangerous dogs. In the last month alone there have been numerous reports of one type of dog attacking other animals and sadly even humans. Across the world it's same, dog attack after dog attack everywhere. Each time the same type of dogs, pitbulls or XL bullys which are a pitbull variant of course.

Here are just a few articles - but trust me you can find over 50 in the UK and hundreds from around the world.

XL bully to be destroyed after attacking owner while he was having sex

An order was made for the dog to be destroyed, but not for 28 days pending any appeals.

www.bbc.co.uk

Woman in hospital after attack by XL bully type dog

A 77-year-old woman is being treated for injuries.

news.stv.tv

XL Bully seized and two arrested after Chihuahua puppy mauled to death

The 'out of control' mutt attacked a Chihuahua being taken for a morning walk on Charles Street, Skellow, Doncaster.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Moment neighbour lobs FIREPIT at crazed 'XL Bully' to stop it mauling pup

THIS is the shocking moment a terrified dog walker fights off an XL Bully-type hell hound as it savages his French Bulldog. One bystander was forced to hurl a fire pit at the beast as it clamped it…

www.thesun.co.uk

Recently on social media lots of footage appearing of XL Bully meetups. Here is an example. Tell me - do these owners look like they are safe and sensible owners? The majority stand no chance when the ticking time-bomb they own snaps.

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7303319568091516192

Not only are they violent, powerful and proven dangerous dogs - they are hideous too. Generations of inbreeding does this. Digusting and vile creatures.

 

[sweep_shot]

I was once attacked by a few dogs at a local park (around 10 years ago).

I was sitting at a public park. One mid-aged couple came to the park without having their dogs on leashes. The dogs saw me and started to bark at me. I felt threatened; I panicked and started to run. The dogs started to come after me. The dogs weren't very big and I wasn't harmed. Anyway, owners came to the rescue and put the dogs on leashes.

The owners probably broke a law as the dogs were not on leashes. In public parks (here in Toronto), dogs need to be on leashes in public parks by law.

Have you ever experienced a dog attack before?

 

[IndoorCricket]

I was once attacked by a few dogs at a local park (around 10 years ago).

I was sitting at a public park. One mid-aged couple came to the park without having their dogs on leashes. The dogs saw me and started to bark at me. I felt threatened; I panicked and started to run. The dogs started to come after me. The dogs weren't very big and I managed to protect myself by pretending to kick them without kicking them. Anyway, owners came to the rescue and put the dogs on leashes.

The owners probably broke a law as the dogs were not on leashes. In public parks (here in Toronto), dogs need to be on leashes by law.

Have you ever experienced a dog attack before?

Its becoming a menace in India. Especially the street dogs. People died in my city because they were being chased by these dogs.

I always get chased by dogs in my street during night travels. Scary stuff.

 

[sweep_shot]

Its becoming a menace in India. Especially the street dogs. People died in my city because they were being chased by these dogs.

I always get chased by dogs in my street during night travels. Scary stuff.

If these are street dogs, I can understand.

But, in my case, dogs were pet dogs. Owners were very irresponsible by having the dogs without leashes at a park. What if there were kids? Kids could've been in danger.

 

[IndoorCricket]

If these are street dogs, I can understand.

But, in my case, dogs were pet dogs. Owners were very irresponsible by having the dogs without leashes at a park. What if there were kids? Kids could've been in danger.

There are cases in gated communities where kids were bitten by domesticated dogs. Its horrible.

 

[hassan918]

Never bitten but chased on a couple of occasions in my school days.

 

[anikrc1]

In my school days many of us were chased and slapped by monkeys.

 

[Major]

If these are street dogs, I can understand.

But, in my case, dogs were pet dogs. Owners were very irresponsible by having the dogs without leashes at a park. What if there were kids? Kids could've been in danger.

Owners were irresponsible but so were you.

When you see a Dog and feel threaten, NEVER EVER RUN. The moment you run, the dog will attack you. You simply cannot outrun him.

Even i fear dogs, but if i see one and cant take cover, i know the best case scenario is stand there.

Unless the dog is crazy a rhodesian ridgeback or a Bull(not sure about whether Bulls attack you when you still) dogs dont really attack if you make a run for

 

[Stewie]

Its becoming a menace in India. Especially the street dogs. People died in my city because they were being chased by these dogs.

I always get chased by dogs in my street during night travels. Scary stuff.

Going be some the activity here, no surprises there!

 

[Justcrazy]

I was chased , I ran away.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I treat dogs with disdain. One of my aims is to taste dog meat.

 

[CricketCartoons]

There are cases in gated communities where kids were bitten by domesticated dogs. Its horrible.

Dog lovers treat dogs as humans and humans as dogs. They never blame the dogs and say it must have been provoked and forced to bite. They are just animals who have been bred selectively since 10,000 years. Humans killed those dogs who were wild. But even after this selective breeding, the dogs cannot be trusted. Horrible animals and mostly lonely or childless people seek them for companionship.

 

[Hitman]

There are a couple of ladies in our street obsessed with stray dogs. They cook food, put it in hot pots, and feed those dogs every morning, noon, and night. They celebrate birthdays of some of the dogs born under their care by cutting cakes and offering free food to old age homes. There are about 10 stray dogs in our street, and both those ladies are obsessed with those dogs.

Let me tell a story that happened about 15 years ago. It happened to the younger son of one of those ladies. Someone evil tried getting rid of their pet dog who got infecting with rabbis and went crazy. It's most likely they left that dog somewhere in the streets. That dog came to our street and viciously attacked the younger son of that lady. The boy was just around 6 years old back then. He was bitten and scratched all over his body including his face. His mother came for help and received the same treatment from the dog. People in our lane quickly took notice and killed the dog, thereby taking the kid to the hospital.

This is the same lady that now is in love with all the stray dogs in our street. They put food on the streets for those dogs, and makes a mess of the streets.

It's become such a nuisance that our lane is known now by outsiders by those street dogs.​

 

[Hitman]

By the way, I love pedigree dogs. We had a Labrador Retriever that we brought home in 2007. He was the darling of our family. He passed away in 2016. And since then my parents have not allowed me from bringing any puppies to our home. The worst thing about bringing a puppy home is when it passes away. The pain is unbearable.​

 

[Hitman]

I treat dogs with disdain. One of my aims is to taste dog meat.

Yuk! I'll die of vomiting if I ever put dog meat in my mouth.

 

[Sher Khan]

I dislike dogs with a passion. They are scary and wild. The moment I see one even if it's 200 metres away from me I change directions and try to find cover.

Worst thing I hate about them is they literally poo anywhere they want including my backyard which I find annoying. They bark and don't let anyone sleep.

 

[sweep_shot]

I dislike dogs with a passion. They are scary and wild. The moment I see one even if it's 200 metres away from me I change directions and try to find cover.

Worst thing I hate about them is they literally poo anywhere they want including my backyard which I find annoying. They bark and don't let anyone sleep.

I also tend to change direction if I see a big dog. Puppies are okay I guess.

My neighbor has a massive dog. I once returned home late because I saw the dog outside (without a leash). Anyway, I don't see the dog much anymore.

I don't hate or dislike dog. It is just that I am uncomfortable around big or medium-sized dogs.

 

[BouncerGuy]

I treat dogs with disdain. One of my aims is to taste dog meat.

For that, you have to go to China.

As far as the thread is concerned, Nope. Never bitten by a dog but, yes, got chased by some dogs.

 

[Sherazkhalid]

Got chased a few times, lucky enough to be not bitten

 

[Hitman]

For that, you have to go to China.

As far as the thread is concerned, Nope. Never bitten by a dog but, yes, got chased by some dogs.

Dog meat is available everywhere in Nagaland. You can look for videos on youtube as well.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

When I was a kid my cousins lived in a really rough part of town, once or twice got a dog set on me by what you would call white trash if living in the USA. So yes got bit a couple of times. Agree running from a dog is not a good idea, but when you are 10 years old you don't think of that.

 

[Stewie]

Years ago we were on a family trip to Kaghan Naraan area. We stopped at this hotel out in the middle of nowhere. There was a rough parking lot of sorts where we had parked our cars. I went out to get something from the car and the next thing I know this huge mountain breed beast of a dog crawled out from under the car feet away from me and started growling ready to pounce. I froze up and knew I was going to get the teeth and then I hear a whistle and dog backs away. He belonged to the parking lot attendant and as guarding the cars.

 

[IMMY69]

I think I've had this discussion before, maybe with Capt. Rishwat...

I was always a little apprehensive around dogs until we bought one (my profile pic)...

Almost every single time a dog attacks or bites, it comes down to its owner/handler. Even for non domesticated / wild dogs, it's all about the environment and the way humans treat them. Case in point, visit Turkey where you'll see packs of dogs, every bread imaginable. just minding their own business. Tourists wondering around with the dogs not flinching one bit...

Then in countries like Pakistan, where they are treated with disdain, not fed and often kicked around, they show their wild side.

Its all down to how they are treated...

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think I've had this discussion before, maybe with Capt. Rishwat...

I was always a little apprehensive around dogs until we bought one (my profile pic)...

Almost every single time a dog attacks or bites, it comes down to its owner/handler. Even for non domesticated / wild dogs, it's all about the environment and the way humans treat them. Case in point, visit Turkey where you'll see packs of dogs, every bread imaginable. just minding their own business. Tourists wondering around with the dogs not flinching one bit...

Then in countries like Pakistan, where they are treated with disdain, not fed and often kicked around, they show their wild side.

Its all down to how they are treated...

Funnily enough one of the dogs I got bit off was the breed in your avatar but never held it against the dog. Always had a fascination for wolf looking dogs ever since watching the Jungle Book. My older brother bought one home once, we had it for a while until my mother made him get rid of it.