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To solve its debt problem, Pakistan should either follow Malaysia or turn into the next Sri Lanka

They will practically own your country for 100 years if you're unable to pay it back which you likely wont. And yes you're only allowed to ask Chinese company to build those projects so its a win-win for China.

Don't know the objectives of this country. How far will this country go to prove that they dont want to be with India.

10% of our debt is to the Chinese. And if they "own" our country whats it to you? why are you so concerned. The panick in Indian circles says otherwise. You are aware the americans provided debt to rebuild europe? The uk only paid off that debt very recently. Now you could "argue" that the US owns europe now but do they? Lets say the Chinese "own" Pakistan do you even understand what that means? can you describe what that means?

will they come and take over our govt? will they make us change our straegic objectives? what do you mean by own?
 
Lets say the Chinese "own" Pakistan do you even understand what that means? can you describe what that means?

China 'owning' Pakistan - again, whatever that means - can be a good thing. I'm sure you will agree that your politicians of 60 years have only made one wrong turn after another, piling up mountainous debt, getting involved in needless wars they had no business in, so the time is ripe for change, even if gradual.

So let's wait and watch how it rolls out.
 
No country can pay off its debt.

Its nearly impossible.
 
Good article published in Dawn.

https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1439408

Author says that:

1) Pakistani economy is stuck producing low value items like textiles and hasn't developed modern exporting industries. This is something I have mentioned before in my posts.

2) The reason for Pakistani economy not modernizing is that it is controlled by rent seeking extractive elites. I have mentioned the Pakistani Army as the impediment, author takes a broader view. I suppose the Army is only part of the feudal elite.

3) The author misses the role of lack of security in deterring foreign investment which is critical for the development of modern industries.
 
Good article published in Dawn.

https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1439408

Author says that:

1) Pakistani economy is stuck producing low value items like textiles and hasn't developed modern exporting industries. This is something I have mentioned before in my posts.

- lol, commen knowledge, everyone with a tiny brain understand and agree to that, so you and the author hasn't said anything new. Sometimes you come off of as people of Pakistan have no idea and you are the genius one.

2) The reason for Pakistani economy not modernizing is that it is controlled by rent seeking extractive elites. I have mentioned the Pakistani Army as the impediment, author takes a broader view. I suppose the Army is only part of the feudal elite.

-corruption, geapolitics on both side of the border that Pakistan couldn't escape, next time take everything in account.

3) The author misses the role of lack of security in deterring foreign investment which is critical for the development of modern industries.

-During Musharaf era, many companies were investing in Pakistan. It has nothing to do with it, it has everything to do with corrupt government and kickbacks. security is only a tiny component which obviously like to highlight because it support your narrative. It has more to do with power and governance. But you heard someone mentioning Kashmir and Pakistan economy in once sentence and now you are stuck on that, lol

enjoy ;)
 
During Musharaf era, many companies were investing in Pakistan. It has nothing to do with it, it has everything to do with corrupt government and kickbacks. security is only a tiny component which obviously like to highlight because it support your narrative. It has more to do with power and governance. But you heard someone mentioning Kashmir and Pakistan economy in once sentence and now you are stuck on that, lol

enjoy ;)

What high-tech/modern industries did Pakistan develop during Musharaff's era? Did IBM, Accenture, Microsoft, Google, Oracle etc. set up offices with hundreds of thousands of employees like they did in India to do the work needed for their worldwide customers?

You are by far the least intelligent Pakistani poster I have encountered in this forum, besides the stupid "lol" you add to your comments. You are welcome to keep living in your delusional world, and your country will do down the drain if other Pakistanis think like you. I am going to stop responding to all your posts.
 
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What high-tech/modern industries did Pakistan develop during Musharaff's era? Did IBM, Accenture, Microsoft, Google, Oracle etc. set up offices with hundreds of thousands of employees like they did in India to do the work needed for their worldwide customers?

You are by far the least intelligent Pakistani poster I have encountered in this forum, besides the stupid "lol" you add to your comments. You are welcome to keep living in your delusional world, and your country will do down the drain if other Pakistanis think like you. I am going to stop responding to all your posts.



Call names when you are put to your place. I must be doing something correct :)

Now let's clear something, I could care less if you respond to me, if you were correct and you have anything valuable to say then it would matter, but so far you have been wrong and trying your best to associate Pakistan's economy with Kashmir's issue, LOL

Again, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO PAKISTAN'S CURRENT PAKISTAN'S ECONOMY SITUATION

Obviously, no big tech company have come to Pakistan due to corrupt government, geopolitical situation on both side of the borders, which Pakistan could not escape for past 20 years after soviet left, it has more to do with war in Afghanistan then anything to do with Kashmir, matter of fact, it has nothing to do with Kashmir, no matter how loud you yell Kashmir after every time you hear Pakistan's economy, it won't make it true, unless you are NAPA :)

Here is another example of difference between, bad and good governance, corrupt and respectful governance have impact on economy.

According to a statement of the Ministry of Railways, Pakistan Railways has generated an additional one billion rupees in first fifty days of the PTI government.

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Federal Minister Shiekh Rasheed Ahmad is making hectic efforts to enhance Pakistan Railways' revenue by putting it on the right track, the statement further added.

It said that Pakistan Railways earned 6.7 billion rupees from August to October this year as compared to 5.7 billion rupees during the same period last year.

https://nation.com.pk/17-Oct-2018/pr-generates-additional-rs1bn-in-first-50-days-of-govt

wallstreet journal group just reported, NS government got 20 million dollars in kickback for K electrics.

Pakistan isn't obsess with India unlike every Indian and every Indian politician, Pakistan will always support Kashmir's struggle to fight against oppression.

By the way, i am little sad that you won't be entertaining me.
 
What high-tech/modern industries did Pakistan develop during Musharaff's era? Did IBM, Accenture, Microsoft, Google, Oracle etc. set up offices with hundreds of thousands of employees like they did in India to do the work needed for their worldwide customers?

You are by far the least intelligent Pakistani poster I have encountered in this forum, besides the stupid "lol" you add to your comments. You are welcome to keep living in your delusional world, and your country will do down the drain if other Pakistanis think like you. I am going to stop responding to all your posts.

Here is another issue, you are nit picking as long as Pakistan's army is made to look bad and it has Kashmir tied up.

my response haven't change to your idiocy to believe that is the cause for the downfall of Pakistan's economy.

again, LOL
 
Pakistan can do 2 things tomorrow and that will help its relationship with India and US.

1. Release Shakil Afridi
2. Put away Hafiz Saeed

Look at what Turkey did, when their national interests were at stake, they released the American pastor who was the cause of bad diplomatic relationship with US and sanctions.

Useless comparison, the pastor was American so releasing it to the Americans makes sense.
 
Around the same time, Abraaj was looking to sell its stake in K-Electric Ltd., the electricity provider to Karachi. Mr. Naqvi tried to secure the cooperation of Pakistan’s then-prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, and his brother Shehbaz, offering a $20 million payment to businessman Navaid Malik for his help in getting it, according to company emails and people familiar with the situation. The government owns a stake in K-Electric and its approval would be required for the sale to go through.

Shehbaz was “willing to give a strong endorsement” of the deal to Chinese bidders, Mr. Malik said, according to an October 2015 email to Mr. Naqvi from Abraaj partner Omar Lodhi. Mr. Malik said it was “important for him to share every detail with the brothers and get their blessings as well as their instructions as to how this money should be distributed,” such as “a portion to charity” or “a portion to the election fund kitty,” Mr. Lodhi wrote in the email.

When Mr. Naqvi emailed Mr. Lodhi about the $20 million contract for Mr. Malik in June 2016, he wrote, “This document is explosive in the wrong hands.” Abraaj and K-Electric shouldn’t be named in the document, he wrote: “Keep it generic.”

“Noted,” Mr. Lodhi responded. Mr. Malik didn’t respond to requests for comment.

In his statement, Mr. Naqvi said that he denies being part of any conversation that involved a payment to anyone in political office to facilitate the sale of K-Electric. He said Mr. Malik was an Abraaj adviser on a variety of activities and that the contract was part of a lengthy discussion about the terms of that role. He said the final agreement “ensured that no conflict of interest would occur.” He said he called it “explosive” due to a reference to the potential sale of K-Electric, which was confidential at the time.

In October 2016, Abraaj announced the sale of the majority stake it controls in K-Electric to China’s state-controlled Shanghai Electric Power Co. for $1.77 billion. However, completion of the sale was delayed by regulatory hurdles.

In July 2017, Pakistan’s Supreme Court removed Prime Minister Sharif from office, and he was convicted of corruption this summer in a case centering on the ownership of London apartments his family used. He is appealing.

K-Electric still hasn’t been sold. A lawyer for the Sharif family said the brothers deny any discussions took place with Mr. Malik as described in the emails.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/privat...dging-to-do-goodthen-it-fell-apart-1539706575

Now what it has to do with Kashmir?

Kashmir is a separate issue that has never prevented big companies to come to Pakistan. It has always been corrupt politician.

Last 10 years, Army has made an effort to stay out of government run issues, the only thing they have done is systematically sidelined corrupt politicians, the likes of Zardari, NS and Altaf Hussian because the Army understand that current economy situation is the biggest threat to Pakistan than any other threat.

[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION], LOL
 
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