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As a neutral fan: Sorry, there is only one winner for me in this match and that is Pakistan. That is the only thing that matters as per the scorecard and 1 year down the line NO ONE WILL give a damn that Afghanistan gave fight.

Sorry Afghanistan fans, you have lost 8 matches back to back. You lost to India as well. You might have come close in both matches but no one cares.

Congratulations Pakistan. You were better when it mattered.

Afghanistan - you have lost 8 matches in a row. You lost matches you should have won. Sorry I dont believe in filth like "respectable victory". How many more respectable victories do you want?

Even in the Asia Cup 2nd round, they could have won all 3 of their games but they didn't win ANY. Winning is the only thing matters, getting close COUNTS FOR NOTHING.

Don't think Afghanistan can beat WI either.
 
Afghanistan fans deserve this loss.

Pathetic fans that act like their the Australian team of the 2000s.

This victory should be dedicated to that CEO
 
Good hopefully you can use the same logic on your fans and team as well and yes Afghans rightly don't deserve any praised coz getting basics of cricket is expected from top 10 teams.
I would back IRE over AFG.
 
They deserve nothing a team with such violent supporters deserves nothing
 
Afghanistan cricket board deserved this loss for appointing such a stupid captain. I know minnows have the habit of losing matches from winning position. They have taken this to a whole new level today. THey just had to make the right bowling changes. That was all needed.
 
They don't deserve anything for selecting a very bad captain

However, they were unlucky in that decisions went agianst them
 
They're just following the pattern of lower-ranked teams who for a few years after gaining the international spotlight, manage to lose games they should be winning.

Winning close games is not for everyone, especially against a more experienced and perhaps better :smith team. That's just the harsh reality of cricket.
 
They do

They just qualified to the wc and competed well in most matches, this experience will be useful down the line.
 
They deserve praise and anybody who says otherwise has a heart made of stone.

Yeah let's praise a team that cannot close out games and stand on 8 losses in 8 matches. 14 games, only 1 win. This so called RISING TEAM has had the worst performance ever by a "rising" team. Even Bangladesh beat Pakistan in 1999 and that was a super strong Pakistan side unlike this.
 
They don't deserve any praise at all. Licking India's feet and sh*tting on BD and Pak before the matches only to be brought down to Earth.
 
Good hopefully you can use the same logic on your fans and team as well and yes Afghans rightly don't deserve any praised coz getting basics of cricket is expected from top 10 teams.
I would back IRE over AFG.

Exactly. They have perfomed far better than zim,ireland .they are rising stars with alot of quality players
 
As a neutral fan: Sorry, there is only one winner for me in this match and that is Pakistan. That is the only thing that matters as per the scorecard and 1 year down the line NO ONE WILL give a damn that Afghanistan gave fight.

Sorry Afghanistan fans, you have lost 8 matches back to back. You lost to India as well. You might have come close in both matches but no one cares.

Congratulations Pakistan. You were better when it mattered.

Afghanistan - you have lost 8 matches in a row. You lost matches you should have won. Sorry I dont believe in filth like "respectable victory". How many more respectable victories do you want?

Even in the Asia Cup 2nd round, they could have won all 3 of their games but they didn't win ANY. Winning is the only thing matters, getting close COUNTS FOR NOTHING.

Don't think Afghanistan can beat WI either.

Disagree bhai.

When a team starts coming too close to winning, it means its developing into a side that will win in the future.

Afghanistan is an awesome upcoming team.

They will win in the future.

They are right now where Bangladesh was a few years back.

Choking and losing many winnable games.

Then things clicked for Bangladesh (with experience) and now they have started winning a lot more.

Same will happen to Afghanistan.

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Yes, only winning is remembered.

But.....Pakistan honestly should be ashamed of today's performance.

Years down the road...people will remember this win not for the jailbreak but for the absolute bad cricket Pakistan played and the even worse cricket played by Afghanistan.

My take.
 
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Good hopefully you can use the same logic on your fans and team as well and yes Afghans rightly don't deserve any praised coz getting basics of cricket is expected from top 10 teams.
I would back IRE over AFG.

Yeah I don't really rate out performances like that against Australia or anything. Winning is what matters only.

Afghanistan are a top 10 team. They didnt field well, didn't bowl smart, their batting was poor. Pakistan were rubbish today, but Pakistan was less rubbish than Afghanistan thus deserves the 2 points.
 
As a neutral fan: Sorry, there is only one winner for me in this match and that is Pakistan. That is the only thing that matters as per the scorecard and 1 year down the line NO ONE WILL give a damn that Afghanistan gave fight.

Sorry Afghanistan fans, you have lost 8 matches back to back. You lost to India as well. You might have come close in both matches but no one cares.

Congratulations Pakistan. You were better when it mattered.

Afghanistan - you have lost 8 matches in a row. You lost matches you should have won. Sorry I dont believe in filth like "respectable victory". How many more respectable victories do you want?

Even in the Asia Cup 2nd round, they could have won all 3 of their games but they didn't win ANY. Winning is the only thing matters, getting close COUNTS FOR NOTHING.

Don't think Afghanistan can beat WI either.

A bit rich coming from Bangladeshi fans who always applause at the failed attempts of own team.
 
Afghanistan had the spinners for the wicket and conditions, its one thing to have skill and another thing to make full use of it which they did, so credit must be given where due. However they lost in the end due to their inexperience and a terrible decision by their captain to bowl himself knowing full well that Pakistan was all at sea against the spinners.

They didn't lose anything. Pakistan did what it was expected to do but problems and weaknesses remain, i am concerned about the ineffectiveness of our bowlers especially spinners from overs 15 to 40. Also concerned about the fragility of our batting line up against quality spin in the middle to end overs.
 
They do deserve the praise. On the other hand, bowling all those extras almost costed us a game and semi-final spot by extension.
 
A bit rich coming from Bangladeshi fans who always applause at the failed attempts of own team.

Also this defeat to Afghanistan have halt bd chances to reach semis hence the overreaction at today performance
 
Disagree bhai.

When a team starts coming too close to winning, it means its developing into a side that will win in the future.

Afghanistan is an awesome upcoming team.

They will win in the future.

They are right now where Bangladesh was a few years back.

Choking and losing many winnable games.

Then things clicked for Bangladesh (with experience) and now they have started winning a lot more.

Same will happen to Afghanistan.

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Yes, only winning is remembered.

But.....Pakistan honestly should be ashamed of today's performance.

Years down the road...people will remember this win not for the jailbreak but for the absolute bad cricket Pakistan played and the even worse cricket played by Afghanistan.

My take.

See the difference between Ireland and Afghanistan is, Ireland won big games and many convincingly.

Bangladesh has lost close games a lot but not like Ireland. My worry with Afghanistan is they get themselves so close and when you would expect them to win 9 times out 10 they have lost the match 90% of the time.

When Afghanistan had to chase 330 against England, they chased it. And that was arguably the greatest chase in world cricket till date. Afghans need to start doing their basics well. And they are so mentally weak they wont be able to win games anytime soon.
 
Also this defeat to Afghanistan have halt bd chances to reach semis hence the overreaction at today performance

If Bangladesh beats Pakistan then Bangladesh will go through unless BD lose to India by a big margin
 
They will learn a lot from this loss. They have young world class players, so I am absolutely certain in coming years we will see a tough Afghanistan, Insha'Allah.

They made Pakistan sweat. Credit to them for that!
 
See the difference between Ireland and Afghanistan is, Ireland won big games and many convincingly.

Bangladesh has lost close games a lot but not like Ireland. My worry with Afghanistan is they get themselves so close and when you would expect them to win 9 times out 10 they have lost the match 90% of the time.

When Afghanistan had to chase 330 against England, they chased it. And that was arguably the greatest chase in world cricket till date. Afghans need to start doing their basics well. And they are so mentally weak they wont be able to win games anytime soon.

It will take time bro.

They will iron out these flaws.

These heartbreaks will strengthen them and help them work on their mistakes.
 
They probably have the worst fans, the players are too cocky. I would love to see them get demoshlished every cricket game so their cricket ceases to exists. These people don't deserve any spotlight.
 
Afganistan would have been done better if there's no infighting... And their captain is one of the worst ever.. He using Rashid Khan as a death bowler most of the time...
 
If Bangladesh beats Pakistan then Bangladesh will go through unless BD lose to India by a big margin

There is always ifs and buts ..

if pak had lost it today it would have further increased chances of bd reaching semis
 
Bdesh can still go through if they lose to IND as they have better RR to Pak. Just make sure they do not lose by a huge margin against IND (which is unlikely looking at the way Ind/ Desh have played so far in this WC)
 
There is always ifs and buts ..

if pak had lost it today it would have further increased chances of bd reaching semis

Nopes. Bdesh has to win against Pak regardless of Pak wins today/ not as chances of them beating Ind are low. They still have their fate in their hands.
 
Afghanistan played amazingly well. Well Done to them and applause 👏 👏.

Pakistan looked uncomfortable against Spinners today, nothing new here we generally struggle. In the manner babar and Imam got out need a slapping big time. They are the one who made the chase harder and difficult. Hafeez hmm i think he needs a dropping.
 
This side nearly beat us and India...credit where credit is due...on pitches which assist spin they are a threat to anyone...
 
They don't deserve any praise at all. Licking India's feet and sh*tting on BD and Pak before the matches only to be brought down to Earth.

Yeah its embarrassing to say the least. Licking feet of Indians while abusing Pakistan and Bangladesh, tells you where they stand as a country in general. Just need to throw some rupees at them and they will bend over.
 
Some afghanistsan players deserve praise. Just because one idiot ruined the joy for everyone else doesn't mean they don't deserve praise. IT is out of their hands. Bowling change is solely up to captain. He made the call. So you can't blame others.
 
The memories of the fight will be vivid in The minds of cricket fans.

Afghans fought well and as a budding cricketing nation, that is what their fans want. Their heroes trying their best for their country.
 
If Bangladesh beats Pakistan then Bangladesh will go through unless BD lose to India by a big margin

Bangladesh isn't beating Pakistan. Pakistan even at its worst is much better than Bangladesh at its peak.

Beating India is even out of equation.
 
Bangladesh isn't beating Pakistan. Pakistan even at its worst is much better than Bangladesh at its peak.

Beating India is even out of equation.

I disagree if Desh comes into the match with a better RR than Pak then i will put them as favs, their batting > Pak.

Against us chances are low but you can't completely rule them out.
 
Bangladesh isn't beating Pakistan. Pakistan even at its worst is much better than Bangladesh at its peak.

Beating India is even out of equation.

Same was said in the Asia cup but we won convincingly without Tamim or Shakib
 
Nopes. Bdesh has to win against Pak regardless of Pak wins today/ not as chances of them beating Ind are low. They still have their fate in their hands.

Well hypothetically if we have lost today .they would have not worried about NRR and point table .Now they have to win one match +have to make sure there runrate is not dropped below pak
 
Afghanistan have only themselves to blame for the loss.

They played well, but not well enough.

They will improve with time.

And yes, the ACB is absolutely moronic
 
BD fans, stay grounded. It could very well happen to you. Couple of close calls go against you and i don't know May be Mush and Mahamdulla hole out at deep midwicket with 2 runs to win. Your match against Pakistan will show how far you have come. Your team is a veteran team compared to Pakistan team which is mostly comprised of less experienced players compared to BD. If you make the exact same mistake that Afghanistan did today, then this thread will be bumped by someone lol
 
As a neutral fan: Sorry, there is only one winner for me in this match and that is Pakistan. That is the only thing that matters as per the scorecard and 1 year down the line NO ONE WILL give a damn that Afghanistan gave fight.

Sorry Afghanistan fans, you have lost 8 matches back to back. You lost to India as well. You might have come close in both matches but no one cares.

Congratulations Pakistan. You were better when it mattered.

Afghanistan - you have lost 8 matches in a row. You lost matches you should have won. Sorry I dont believe in filth like "respectable victory". How many more respectable victories do you want?

Even in the Asia Cup 2nd round, they could have won all 3 of their games but they didn't win ANY. Winning is the only thing matters, getting close COUNTS FOR NOTHING.

Don't think Afghanistan can beat WI either.

Honestly despite troll BD posters my dislike of BD has went away completely recently. Despite our terrible history our team is still welcomed with open arms. As compared to Afghanis, who vent their hate on every platform there is. I have met countless people from both countries, absolutely not a single Bangladeshi who's ever shown any dislike, even 1%, but every Afghan I met was arrogant and borderline hateful beyond belief.
 
Afghanistan had the spinners for the wicket and conditions, its one thing to have skill and another thing to make full use of it which they did, so credit must be given where due. However they lost in the end due to their inexperience and a terrible decision by their captain to bowl himself knowing full well that Pakistan was all at sea against the spinners.

They didn't lose anything. Pakistan did what it was expected to do but problems and weaknesses remain, i am concerned about the ineffectiveness of our bowlers especially spinners from overs 15 to 40. Also concerned about the fragility of our batting line up against quality spin in the middle to end overs.

We have always been bad at playing quality spin. Didn’t you know. Forget about the opposition, forget about their status there were some absolute peach of deliveries that had us poking around like blind men. With reviews used up and some bad captaincy Afghanistan lost but we need to remember that Bangladesh or India won’t let us off so lightly. We really are very lucky and probably win this World Cup.
 
Of course they deserve praise for the fight they showed. They are still very new in the international arena so you can't expect them to start beating big teams just yet. Look at how long it took Bangladesh to become a competitive side at this level.
 
Same was said in the Asia cup but we won convincingly without Tamim or Shakib

When pressure comes, it's the top teams that survives. Pakistan has much better probability of coming out of a dangerous situation than Bangladesh. To be honest, you guys have a history of facing defeat from the jaws of victory.... Defeat even after pre mature victory jumps.
 
They will not improve. In fact will go backward.
Bookmark this!

Afg has the backing of BCCI now. If they were alone, they would have gone backwards. But with the facilities provided by BCCI, they have more opportunities even than Pakistan team.
 
As a neutral fan: Sorry, there is only one winner for me in this match and that is Pakistan. That is the only thing that matters as per the scorecard and 1 year down the line NO ONE WILL give a damn that Afghanistan gave fight.

Sorry Afghanistan fans, you have lost 8 matches back to back. You lost to India as well. You might have come close in both matches but no one cares.

Congratulations Pakistan. You were better when it mattered.

Afghanistan - you have lost 8 matches in a row. You lost matches you should have won. Sorry I dont believe in filth like "respectable victory". How many more respectable victories do you want?

Even in the Asia Cup 2nd round, they could have won all 3 of their games but they didn't win ANY. Winning is the only thing matters, getting close COUNTS FOR NOTHING.

Don't think Afghanistan can beat WI either.


Nice post but surely you should have anticipated this thread turning into a Bangladesh bashing one despite being a thread about Afghanistan
 
I am always happy to praise Afghanistan, but after the behaviour of their fans today, following the loudmouth bragging of their officials, I think praise would only go to their heads. They are a rising team, but you let your wins do the talking. A bit early to start bragging at the moment with a 100% loss record.
 
When pressure comes, it's the top teams that survives. Pakistan has much better probability of coming out of a dangerous situation than Bangladesh. To be honest, you guys have a history of facing defeat from the jaws of victory.... Defeat even after pre mature victory jumps.

Mate I am well aware of your blind hatred for Bangladesh team so turning this thread about Afghanistan and pakistan to be turned into Bangladesh bashing is the kind of nonsense I expected from you.

My identity on this forum is a cricket fan first and a Bangladeshi 2nd.
 
Nice post but surely you should have anticipated this thread turning into a Bangladesh bashing one despite being a thread about Afghanistan

That is the problem with all this pseudo-patriotism. Apparently if you are born in a certain country you are supposed to be looked down upon. As a cricket fan i have the right to objectively criticize every team and also praise them. I have been critical of BD team and players as well.
 
They do deserve praise.

They gave a good fight against Pakistan and India

Thing is, we are all angry at the behavior of some of their fans. What those lunatics was terrible, but that should not take away what their team did today.

They almost pulled it off, but why did they lost?
The lost because of their board. Had Gulbaddin not been captain and it was Asghar making the calls, who knows what could had happened.

It was a spinners paradise, and they had the resources. But one bad decision from their captain led to this.

I hope Afhganistan learns from this, there board learns from this. Gulbaddin shouldn't be made captain,there is a reason why even Phil Simmons was angry with this decision, and we all saw it today.

Also Afhgani fans need to learn how to sit in a derby match. I understand that as there country has got no sport in which they are good at plus no arch rivals, hence today they had no idea how to behave.

Fans always throw statements, politically, anti and all kinds. This happens in derby games. For Afghani's this was the first time they saw it and they reacted to it.

Afghani's have to learn to learn, good to have them in cricket, but its time they also learn the right behavior.
 
Let's take a moment and appreciate Afghanistan has lost all 8 games. Enjoy your flight back.

Get em Windies!
 
Afghanis deserved all the losses that came their way. Maybe next time they will learn to reign in their mouths and give actual performance on the field.
 
They do deserve praise.

They gave a good fight against Pakistan and India

Thing is, we are all angry at the behavior of some of their fans. What those lunatics was terrible, but that should not take away what their team did today.

They almost pulled it off, but why did they lost?
The lost because of their board. Had Gulbaddin not been captain and it was Asghar making the calls, who knows what could had happened.

It was a spinners paradise, and they had the resources. But one bad decision from their captain led to this.

I hope Afhganistan learns from this, there board learns from this. Gulbaddin shouldn't be made captain,there is a reason why even Phil Simmons was angry with this decision, and we all saw it today.

Also Afhgani fans need to learn how to sit in a derby match. I understand that as there country has got no sport in which they are good at plus no arch rivals, hence today they had no idea how to behave.

Fans always throw statements, politically, anti and all kinds. This happens in derby games. For Afghani's this was the first time they saw it and they reacted to it.

Afghani's have to learn to learn, good to have them in cricket, but its time they also learn the right behavior.

You have a serious inferiority complex. Go home Roger.
 
Everything worked in their favour today. Right from winning the toss and edging their way to 230. If you check the scores, at least 30-40% of shots would have been edges.

Bowling 40 overs with spin indicates that you're being a one-trick pony. Which we almost fell for because of our batsmen's defensive mindset. How did Wahab manage to hit Rashid for a four and six in the end? Was it magic? Afghanistan played on Pakistan's brittle batting but couldn't manage to pull it off. They deserve the loss.
 
They are still a third rate side no matter what some people say! I praise them for being last in the group as expected! Congratulations:smith
 
Disagree completely here.
I am pakistani but will say that Afghanistan team and players deserve credit for their performance today. Yes they lost in the end but were dominating and also luck didnt favor then with some lost reviews, etc.
You have to remember they just started playing against top teams in recent years. The other nations have been playing for decades. They barely have a stable country let alone a flourishing school, club, first class structure with large pool of talent, coaching, funding, etc.
Their CEO and few folks behavior is obnoxious and arrogant, but that shouldn't take it away from team.
 
They are actually two good batsmen away from winning matches. They are a good team but it will take years before they can actually start winning games against better sides.
 
Afghanistan has lost every game. What a rubbish side. Why are we bringing down the standard of the WC by bringing such garbage to our stadiums- allowing such inept, unskilled people take to the field.
 
Pakistan almost threw the game, Afghanistan did nothing special. Pakistan has always been this unpredictable batting second.
 
Afghanistan played really well. They are developing into good side. India need to invest in their cricket. Afghans and indians both countries have excellent relations.

At present afghanistan home ground is in India. I heard afghanistan captain said, India is their favourite team and they all respect indian players alot.

Bcci should let afghanistan team players play in ranji trophy.it would help them unimaginable.
 
Afghanistan played really well. They are developing into good side. India need to invest in their cricket. Afghans and indians both countries have excellent relations.

At present afghanistan home ground is in India. I heard afghanistan captain said, India is their favourite team and they all respect indian players alot.

Bcci should let afghanistan team players play in ranji trophy.it would help them unimaginable.

This is a wonderful idea; Sending millions of Afghan refugees from Afghanistan & Pakistan to India (along with the third rate cricket team to hone in on their skills) Please host maybe 5-10m Afghan refugees? And grant them citizenship.. be bold -be a great nation and let them all roam freely in your capital.
 
Everything worked in their favour today. Right from winning the toss and edging their way to 230. If you check the scores, at least 30-40% of shots would have been edges.

LMAO

Did you watch the same match as everyone else did?
 
I will give them credit for the way they bowled. They took advantage of the conditions on offer.
 
As a neutral fan: Sorry, there is only one winner for me in this match and that is Pakistan. That is the only thing that matters as per the scorecard and 1 year down the line NO ONE WILL give a damn that Afghanistan gave fight.

Sorry Afghanistan fans, you have lost 8 matches back to back. You lost to India as well. You might have come close in both matches but no one cares.

Congratulations Pakistan. You were better when it mattered.

Afghanistan - you have lost 8 matches in a row. You lost matches you should have won. Sorry I dont believe in filth like "respectable victory". How many more respectable victories do you want?

Even in the Asia Cup 2nd round, they could have won all 3 of their games but they didn't win ANY. Winning is the only thing matters, getting close COUNTS FOR NOTHING.

Don't think Afghanistan can beat WI either.

I agree with you.
 
They deserve all the praises they get. They are a dangerous side on slow pitches. Pak I can understand but not sure why BD fans are so quick to discredit Afg's achievements. Despite unimaginable odds they are still making progress at a good pace, it took BD over a decade to reach where Afghans are now.
 
Yeah Afghanistan batted extremely poorly. Did you leave your £20 glasses in your made in China purse?

Yes, left it in the same place where Afghans lost their main quick, had umpires not spot clear nicks or plumb lbws, dropped catches and had an idiot or crooked captain bowl instead of the spinners.

LMAO indeed.
 
Actually, it has been a disappointing WC for Afghanistan, but their spin bowling is a threat for anyone on a helpful pitch. Once they have two decent batsmen, they will compete seriously against top teams and start winning ways. Currently, their batting is poor with no proper technique displayed by the batsmen.

Today they competed well, as was against India, and today's loss though solely rests on the Afghan Captain, one of the most bizarre decisions I have ever seen. He was bowling dollies and still proceeding to bowl such a crucial over, he should be sacked immediately based on that pathetic decision alone.
 
They deserve all the praises they get. They are a dangerous side on slow pitches. Pak I can understand but not sure why BD fans are so quick to discredit Afg's achievements. Despite unimaginable odds they are still making progress at a good pace, it took BD over a decade to reach where Afghans are now.

We credit their progress but not their performance in this world cup so far.
 
Yes, left it in the same place where Afghans lost their main quick, had umpires not spot clear nicks or plumb lbws, dropped catches and had an idiot or crooked captain bowl instead of the spinners.

LMAO indeed.

Had this happened, had that happened this would have been the outcome. Blah blah - could've, should've and would've means nothing.

Th bottom line is Afghanistan collected another L - deal with it. Stop getting your knickers in a twist. I never said Pakistan played well.. playing p1ss poor sides - brings the worst out of you sometimes- the same side also spit roasted the Kiwis. Who mind you were extremely humble in defeat unlike the trash that lost today.
 
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Disagree bhai.

When a team starts coming too close to winning, it means its developing into a side that will win in the future.

Afghanistan is an awesome upcoming team.

They will win in the future.

They are right now where Bangladesh was a few years back.

Choking and losing many winnable games.

Then things clicked for Bangladesh (with experience) and now they have started winning a lot more.

Same will happen to Afghanistan.

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Yes, only winning is remembered.

But.....Pakistan honestly should be ashamed of today's performance.

Years down the road...people will remember this win not for the jailbreak but for the absolute bad cricket Pakistan played and the even worse cricket played by Afghanistan.

My take.

Pakistan didn’t play brilliantly but that was a difficult pitch for team batting second. Afghan have world class spinners so they exploited conditions on the hottest day of the year. However that said there were some soft dismissals but it’s a pressure game.

Pakistan have been up and down in this tournament but no when you win there is no shame. Certainly I don’t know of any Pak Fan that was ashamed today. Relieved in the end but not ashamed - that’s a loser
mentality to have - Only the first performance against the West Indies.
 
Hope they lose their last game too. Never liked them which is even more so now. Shameless people.
 
After their CEO and fans behaviour, Afghan team deserves FAT ZERO praise.-- looking forward to see them lose their last match as well.
 
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