To what extent is India meddling in Balochistan?

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was an open threat made by Major Rtd Gaurav Arya on Indian channel Republic TV two days ago he predicted an attack on Pakistani forces in Baluchistan in 10-15 days and today there was an attack on Pakistani forces near Iranian border Pakistan must take up the issue with <a href="https://twitter.com/UN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UN</a> <a href="https://t.co/IgYWcXw1ry">pic.twitter.com/IgYWcXw1ry</a></p>— Hamid Mir (@HamidMirPAK) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamidMirPAK/status/1258852780669906944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1 offr, 5 soldiers embraced shahadat as FC South <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Balochistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Balochistan</a> vehicle was targeted with remote controlled IED while returning from patrolling in Buleda, 14 kms from Pak-Iran Border, to check possible routes used by terrorists in mountainous terrain of Mekran. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OurMartyrsOurHeroes?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OurMartyrsOurHeroes</a> <a href="https://t.co/mES0jMWRxq">pic.twitter.com/mES0jMWRxq</a></p>— DG ISPR (@OfficialDGISPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR/status/1258793839336316928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Now I know enough to not take Major (Ret..d) Gaurav too seriously in such matters as he's one of the typical social media warriors. But the threat is undeniably there. Kulbhushan's arrest was just the start of it.

While there are legitimate grievances from the people of Balochistan, the vast majority of them do not engage in violence.

However, a few small groups do indeed have other plans. To what extent is India influencing these violent groups in Balochistan?

 

[gani999]

To start with, my sincerest condolences to the martyred Pakistani soldiers. They gave their lives fighting for their country and that deserves respect, anywhere, everywhere and all the time. A soldier is a soldier, irrespective of uniform, and deserves all the respect and salutes.

About Gaurav Arya, I have immense respect for him as he was a soldier in the Indian Army. He may be unpopular among Pkaistanis, but if you listen to him carefully, you will realise that he usually targets only the Pakistani Army or the ISI, and never the people of Pakistan or Islam. Fair enough coming from a former India Army soldier. I doubt the Pakistan Army has kind words for their Indian counterpart either.

About Balochistan let us get one thing clear. The last time India interfered with any Pakistani territory, the result was the creation of Bangladesh. If the Balochis are clamouring so much for their independence and have India backing them to the hilt, the situation would have been a lot worse than what it is. And yes, the Kulbushan saga is fast looking like a dead horse getting whipped to glory. If India was so deeply involved in Balochistan, they would have had several RAW agents there, actively training and supporting the Balochis, like they were doing with the Mukti Bahini. And what could ISI find? One man, Kulbushan, who probably wasn't even with the RAW! Either RAW makes the Mossad look like toy soldiers, or ISI isn't what it is trumped up to be. I hope it is not a bit of both.

 

[IndianHero]

With ISI being No 1 spy/intelligence agency in the world & pakistani army being No 1 army in the world it impossible for india to be involved in baluchisthan

 

[Bigboii]

With ISI being No 1 spy/intelligence agency in the world & pakistani army being No 1 army in the world it impossible for india to be involved in baluchisthan

Geez I wonder how is Pak able to do shady stuff in Kashmir with India 2020 superpower millitary intelligence

Really surprised tbh I thought they could destroy Pak in an instant, just wow!!

 

[GBK_Fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was an open threat made by Major Rtd Gaurav Arya on Indian channel Republic TV two days ago he predicted an attack on Pakistani forces in Baluchistan in 10-15 days and today there was an attack on Pakistani forces near Iranian border Pakistan must take up the issue with <a href="https://twitter.com/UN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UN</a> <a href="https://t.co/IgYWcXw1ry">pic.twitter.com/IgYWcXw1ry</a></p>— Hamid Mir (@HamidMirPAK) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamidMirPAK/status/1258852780669906944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1 offr, 5 soldiers embraced shahadat as FC South <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Balochistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Balochistan</a> vehicle was targeted with remote controlled IED while returning from patrolling in Buleda, 14 kms from Pak-Iran Border, to check possible routes used by terrorists in mountainous terrain of Mekran. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OurMartyrsOurHeroes?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OurMartyrsOurHeroes</a> <a href="https://t.co/mES0jMWRxq">pic.twitter.com/mES0jMWRxq</a></p>— DG ISPR (@OfficialDGISPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR/status/1258793839336316928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Now I know enough to not take Major (Ret..d) Gaurav too seriously in such matters as he's one of the typical social media warriors. But the threat is undeniably there. Kulbhushan's arrest was just the start of it.

While there are legitimate grievances from the people of Balochistan, the vast majority of them do not engage in violence.

However, a few small groups do indeed have other plans. To what extent is India influencing these violent groups in Balochistan?

There has been a marked change in Indian position on Pakistani support to Kashmir militias since the Mumbai attacks. This has only accelerated and hardened under the Modi regime where the army and the intelligence agencies are given a more clear say on how they respond to events.

Last week, 3 CRPF men on patrol checks were matyred in Kashmir. All 3 of them were clearly stuck on the head from a distance. So it’s foolish to assume that the Indian army is up against untrained local youth. This is besides the other high profile losses India has suffered in the last 1 month. The payback was expected to anyone who has been following Indian military let alone someone like Gaurav.

There is a growing consensus in Indian military circles that the only way to end this proxy war on Kashmir is to make it expensive for Pakistan for continue its current strategy. This includes the Balakot strikes, using heavy artillery at the border or better arming militias groups against Pakistan.

 

[Bigboii]

There has been a marked change in Indian position on Pakistani support to Kashmir militias since the Mumbai attacks. This has only accelerated and hardened under the Modi regime where the army and the intelligence agencies are given a more clear say on how they respond to events.

Last week, 3 CRPF men on patrol checks were matyred in Kashmir. All 3 of them were clearly stuck on the head from a distance. So it’s foolish to assume that the Indian army is up against untrained local youth. This is besides the other high profile losses India has suffered in the last 1 month. The payback was expected to anyone who has been following Indian military let alone someone like Gaurav.

There is a growing consensus in Indian military circles that the only way to end this proxy war on Kashmir is to make it expensive for Pakistan for continue its current strategy. This includes the Balakot strikes, using heavy artillery at the border or better arming militias groups against Pakistan.

But arming militias is way harder for india to do than for Pak because they can't operate training camps in Iran or not sophisticated ones atleast maybe in Afghanistan but even than they need a stable Afghanistan for that to happen

Only good options I see is UN, fatf and just bad PR campaigns or bombing on loc but a lot of that would put India in a negative light cause of civilian casualties

 

[GBK_Fan]

But arming militias is way harder for india to do than for Pak because they can't operate training camps in Iran or not sophisticated ones atleast maybe in Afghanistan but even than they need a stable Afghanistan for that to happen

Only good options I see is UN, fatf and just bad PR campaigns or bombing on loc but a lot of that would put India in a negative light cause of civilian casualties

Yes they are unable to run training camps, but that serves the dual purpose of reducing the costs and ensuring deniability. What you do see now, is better armed rebel groups. Have a look at some of the long range sniper rifles being used by the BLA

 

[Bigboii]

Yes they are unable to run training camps, but that serves the dual purpose of reducing the costs and ensuring deniability. What you do see now, is better armed rebel groups. Have a look at some of the long range sniper rifles being used by the BLA

I don't get the point tbh how can having no training camps result in more arms for rebels and how will the rebels get the training to operate these sophisticated weapons

 

[GBK_Fan]

I don't get the point tbh how can having no training camps result in more arms for rebels and how will the rebels get the training to operate these sophisticated weapons

BLA has already been running training camps with help from Iran/Afghanistan? Why should India start new ones?

 

[Bigboii]

BLA has already been running training camps with help from Iran/Afghanistan? Why should India start new ones?

Afghanistan yes but I am not so sure about Iran because they have their own problem with baloch insurants and I think BLA attacked their security personnels too why would they want to serve one more insurancy of same ethnic group

So basically you are saying Afghanistan which is fighting a bloody civil war on its own is mostly training and arming BLA with limited indian support

You need to make yourself clear cause I am not totally getting the points you are making

 

[GBK_Fan]

Afghanistan yes but I am not so sure about Iran because they have their own problem with baloch insurants and I think BLA attacked their security personnels too why would they want to serve one more insurancy of same ethnic group

So basically you are saying Afghanistan which is fighting a bloody civil war on its own is mostly training and arming BLA with limited indian support

You need to make yourself clear cause I am not totally getting the points you are making

I have not followed the BLA closely mate. I asked you a question about BLA camps, note the(?).

My initial post in this thread was about news I read about Indian military thinking. I don’t closely follow militia groups in Pakistan to have a nuanced discussion.

 

[Bigboii]

I have not followed the BLA closely mate. I asked you a question about BLA camps, note the(?).

My initial post in this thread was about news I read about Indian military thinking. I don’t closely follow militia groups in Pakistan to have a nuanced discussion.

Fair enough, yeah my bad

 

[Syed1]

Need to arm and train the Kashmiri freedom fighters. Also it would be better if we provide structure and proper hierarchy to their resistance that way they would be better able to pierce the Indian defenses and inflict maximum damage.

 

[GBK_Fan]

Afghanistan yes but I am not so sure about Iran because they have their own problem with baloch insurants and I think BLA attacked their security personnels too why would they want to serve one more insurancy of same ethnic group

So basically you are saying Afghanistan which is fighting a bloody civil war on its own is mostly training and arming BLA with limited indian support

You need to make yourself clear cause I am not totally getting the points you are making

Just did a search, it does seem Baloch militias use Iran and Afghanistan as base. Some of these articles are a few years old and may not be accurate

https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKCN1RW0EN

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/12496-afghan-govt-must-abolish-raws-training-camps

 

[pillionrider]

Need to arm and train the Kashmiri freedom fighters.

What have those dumb guys in the Pakistani intelligence been doing all these decades. They should hire you to lure you back to the motherland.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Gaurav Arya is an idiot.

BJP owned news channel Republic TV took him on board to spread their right wing propaganda.

People like him are the reason why i feel army or army men should never get blind support.

They are doing a job and are getting paid a lot better than an average job would.

 

[Sirris]

Need to arm and train the Kashmiri freedom fighters. Also it would be better if we provide structure and proper hierarchy to their resistance that way they would be better able to pierce the Indian defenses and inflict maximum damage.

Wake up!

Pakistan has stopped training and supporting militants as it used to in the 90s. All such claims are baseless and mostly made by Pakistani patriots to portray any successful militant attack in Kashmir as a work of ISI or by the Indian media to hide the incompetences of Indian state in India. The Indian security forces killed in Handwara was due to their own failure and the militants killed had no history of Pak travel, nor were they using sophisticated weapons.

How many days did Riaz Naikoo spent in Pakistan? Zero.

How many days did Burhan Wani spent in Pakistan? Zero.

How many days did Adil Ahmad Dar spend in Pakistan? Zero.

This is a new generation of militant activity post-2010 and it is mostly local and indigenous.

At best the support by Pakistan is indirect, insignificant and mostly moral support. Leaders like syed Salahuddin sit in Pakistan and can at best give a speech over the killing of Riaz Naikoo. That's it.

Jaish-e-Muhammad is a joke of an organization. It has been expelled by the Afghan Taliban from Afghanistan a long time ago. Most of its members in Pakistan fool the public, ask for donations and haven't seen a single day in a battlefield. It only enjoys support among the locals in the valley due to firey speeches of Masood Azhar. That is it.

LoC is the toughest border to infiltrate. Ever since it was fenced off completely with the permission of Musharraf. There is heavy surveillance with the help of the most advanced technology out there. Even if Pakistan wanted to they can't really support the local militants in Kashmir. In the 90s guys like Massod Azhar could infiltrate and hold meetings in srinagar. All those days are gone.

Hence if there is any little support left by Pakistan it needs to stop. Unless Pakistan is ready to openly support the Kashmir militants and defend its stance in front of the world. Otherwise no point in doing so. Our little support might cause nuisance to India but it sure isn't going to liberate Kashmir by force. The insurgency failed to be successful in the golden days of 90s, why should it be successful now when providing support is a lot harder. We will just be using Kashmiri youth to one up India. That's sad and tragic.

Our support for Kashmiri militants should be because we morally believe in their cause and see it as the only solution to Kashmir issue. It shouldn't be based as a reaction to Balochistan issue.

The Balochistan issue is independent of Kashmir militancy. Yes, India as an enemy will try to capitalize on our vulnerabilities however beside financial support there isn't much India has to do. Our western border has seen war for 40 years. Weapon supplies are readily available and the military know-how is availabl too.

The solution to the issue isn't in supporting Kashmiri militants. The solution is in building the bridge with the Baloch nation and providing justice to those asking for it. Strengthening ties with Baloch nation and friendly tribes.

You believe in extra-judicial killing. Time to question the policy.

 

[Sirris]

Fools who are given airtime but have no clue of the ground realities can by found on both sides of the border.

No amount of shouting by Zaid Hamid will make Afghan Taliban our proxy. Likewise if some Baloch tribes hadn't seen brutalites and injustice by Pakistani army they would not have become such staunt enemies,regardless of what Indians do.

The western border has always been lawless. With 40 years of war it is easy to get your hands on all kind of weapons there. India is surely exploiting our vulnerabilities. However at most it is providing the militants with financial and logistics support.

We need to approach the issue in a rational and calm manner. Our priorites should be to strengthen the ties with the Baloch nation and not alienating them or condemning the whole people due to actions of a few.

The western border is a lot bigger than LOC and less guarded. Hence it will be difficult to eliminate the militants who will find it easy to do cross border activities. Proper border fencing is necessary.

Recently an ex-member of BLA was gunned down by militants. That shouldn't be happening and they should be better protected.

 

[Sirris]

There has been a marked change in Indian position on Pakistani support to Kashmir militias since the Mumbai attacks. This has only accelerated and hardened under the Modi regime where the army and the intelligence agencies are given a more clear say on how they respond to events.

Last week, 3 CRPF men on patrol checks were matyred in Kashmir. All 3 of them were clearly stuck on the head from a distance. So it’s foolish to assume that the Indian army is up against untrained local youth. This is besides the other high profile losses India has suffered in the last 1 month. The payback was expected to anyone who has been following Indian military let alone someone like Gaurav.

There is a growing consensus in Indian military circles that the only way to end this proxy war on Kashmir is to make it expensive for Pakistan for continue its current strategy. This includes the Balakot strikes, using heavy artillery at the border or better arming militias groups against Pakistan.

That incident doesn't necessarily mean highly trained fighters. The convoy of Indian forces was ambushed. The most visible target behind the windshield is head and neck. Even a fluke shot has high probability of hitting the head or neck region.

Past month Indian military has been conducting many successful counterinsurgency operations. Around 18 militants have been successfully neutralized. Only once encounter in Handwara ended up being deadly. Which was most likely due to the failure of Indian forces and I have highlighted the most likely cause in the relevant thread.

Indian officials vastly exaggerate the direct military support of Pakistan to this new generation of Kashmiri militants. Mostly to hide their incompetences.

The Balakot strike was supposed to kill 300 terrorists. According to those familiar with conflict the number of active militants in Kashmir is not more than 300.

In last month 18 militants were killed all were local and none had travel history to Pakistan. This is not the 90s anymore. In the 90s guys like Masood Azhar could travel to Srinagar and hold meetings there. All those days are long gone. Indian officials need to accept their shortcomings and stop blaming Pakistan everytime things don't go as planned.

It's been over a year, since Adil Ahmed Dar carried out the Pulwama attack. Any info about his Pak travel? Any explanation by the Indian officials how he was able to gather 40kg of explosives in the valley?

India needs to work on making Kashmiri feel less alienated. The desire for independence and militancy among the locals isn't something exported from the outside. It's genuine and without addressing it India can't solve the problem.

 

[GBK_Fan]

That incident doesn't necessarily mean highly trained fighters. The convoy of Indian forces was ambushed. The most visible target behind the windshield is head and neck. Even a fluke shot has high probability of hitting the head or neck region.

Past month Indian military has been conducting many successful counterinsurgency operations. Around 18 militants have been successfully neutralized. Only once encounter in Handwara ended up being deadly. Which was most likely due to the failure of Indian forces and I have highlighted the most likely cause in the relevant thread.

Indian officials vastly exaggerate the direct military support of Pakistan to this new generation of Kashmiri militants. Mostly to hide their incompetences.

The Balakot strike was supposed to kill 300 terrorists. According to those familiar with conflict the number of active militants in Kashmir is not more than 300.

In last month 18 militants were killed all were local and none had travel history to Pakistan. This is not the 90s anymore. In the 90s guys like Masood Azhar could travel to Srinagar and hold meetings there. All those days are long gone. Indian officials need to accept their shortcomings and stop blaming Pakistan everytime things don't go as planned.

It's been over a year, since Adil Ahmed Dar carried out the Pulwama attack. Any info about his Pak travel? Any explanation by the Indian officials how he was able to gather 40kg of explosives in the valley?

India needs to work on making Kashmiri feel less alienated. The desire for independence and militancy among the locals isn't something exported from the outside. It's genuine and without addressing it India can't solve the problem.

We have heard this enough number of times......Local resistance, Pakistan not involved. The real story has always been different, be it Kargil or Osama. Anyway if we are peddling official government lines, than as other posters mentioned above, India only provides verbal and moral support to Pakistan based militias. Quid pro quo

 

[gani999]

Gaurav Arya is an idiot.

BJP owned news channel Republic TV took him on board to spread their right wing propaganda.

People like him are the reason why i feel army or army men should never get blind support.

They are doing a job and are getting paid a lot better than an average job would.

They are doing the job of guarding India's frontiers, putting their own lives at stake, so that dimwitted Indian trolls are free to type their nonsense on internet forums.

Have some respect, you ungrateful rabble-rouser! Or go, pick up a gun and guard the border for a day to see what it feels like!

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Need to arm and train the Kashmiri freedom fighters. Also it would be better if we provide structure and proper hierarchy to their resistance that way they would be better able to pierce the Indian defenses and inflict maximum damage.

Need not worry, our army is already taking care of them as we speak. Just need to up the ante and show them hell.

 

[Bhaijaan]

They are doing the job of guarding India's frontiers, putting their own lives at stake, so that dimwitted Indian trolls are free to type their nonsense on internet forums.

Have some respect, you ungrateful rabble-rouser! Or go, pick up a gun and guard the border for a day to see what it feels like!

Delusional right wing muppets like you overhype the army.

I have got news for you. Every country has an army and in many cases these armies have meddled so much with the country's politics that they've ruined those countries.

There is respect and then there is falling into a propaganda trap.

I don't need a muslim hating dumbo like you to tell me whom to respect and how much or to justify my respect for anyone.

Now go back to spreading some fake whatsapp messages of Modi being an avatar of Krishna lol

 

[Sirris]

We have heard this enough number of times......Local resistance, Pakistan not involved. The real story has always been different, be it Kargil or Osama. Anyway if we are peddling official government lines, than as other posters mentioned above, India only provides verbal and moral support to Pakistan based militias. Quid pro quo

I am not repeating governments lines. I am sharing the ground realities. I don't trust official governments from both sides one bit. I believe that those genuinely interested in peace from both sides should be asking governments and army officials critical questions.

Guys like Hafeez Saeed and Massod Azhar should be behind bars and their mosques and madrassah closed down. They are conman and have only fooled the public in the name of Jihad in Kashmir. That's my view.

The points I raised are my own, based on my research. If Indians have answers to them I am ready to listen without bias. If Indians citizens don't have answers to them than these are the critical question they should be asking their officials to get a proper answer.

I recognize that India's support to Baloch militants is most likely financial. They don't have to provide weapons, IEDs, training camps or help them infiltrate the border. The western border has been a war zone for 40 years. Getting military training on your own isn't hard and smugglers can be found plentiful.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Labourers who work 14 hours a day for a penny also deserve respect for being the physical backbone of the economy.

Theh are the people who are forgotten in tough times like right now. Stranded in a different state, with no job jo money no food and nobody giving a damn about helping them return home safely.

A country which cannot respect it's poor on humanitarian ground in such a time does not look good going gaga over army and it's so called respect for them.

We just have to follow the Yanks with their thank you for your service this and that crap.

Thank you for what exactly? Protecting America from poor third world countries who never stood a chance anyway?

Ravaging these poor countries back to the 19th century and coming back home as heroes.

An ex army man has what purpose threatening foreigners of military action on TV?

Republic TV does not leave a day without doing their utmost best in portraying muslims as worse than insects in India and Gaurav Arya is an important part of that crew.

Why does he deserve any respect for hurting the social fabric of my country?

 

[Sirris]

Need not worry, our army is already taking care of them as we speak. Just need to up the ante and show them hell.

How exactly?

80 Kashmiri militants have have been killed since January this year. Most of them are under-equipped and easily outnumbered. No one in Pakistan paid tribute to their sacrifice. You only pay attention to what's happening in Kashmir when there are some Indian casualties to chest thump.

If you are pointing to LoC skirmishes, then they have been happening all the time just to a lesser extreme. For the most part the civilians living near LOC on the both sides are the biggest victim of these senseless weapon testing. These skirmishes aren't going to solve the conflict. Nor liberate IOK or POK depending on your point of view.

While we all are discussing this, remember this is the fourth consecutive day with no internet in Kashmir. No one from Kashmir is able to partake in this discussion we are having.

 

[GBK_Fan]

I am not repeating governments lines. I am sharing the ground realities. I don't trust official governments from both sides one bit. I believe that those genuinely interested in peace from both sides should be asking governments and army officials critical questions.

Guys like Hafeez Saeed and Massod Azhar should be behind bars and their mosques and madrassah closed down. They are conman and have only fooled the public in the name of Jihad in Kashmir. That's my view.

The points I raised are my own, based on my research. If Indians have answers to them I am ready to listen without bias. If Indians citizens don't have answers to them than these are the critical question they should be asking their officials to get a proper answer.

I recognize that India's support to Baloch militants is most likely financial. They don't have to provide weapons, IEDs, training camps or help them infiltrate the border. The western border has been a war zone for 40 years. Getting military training on your own isn't hard and smugglers can be found plentiful.

And the fact that guys like Syed, Masood and Hafeez move around freely, and can continue operations tells you not much has changed on the ground. The PR has definitely changed due to FATF and the economic situation Pakistan finds itself in; The modus operandi remains the same. Your research may point in a different direction, I have enough reason and history not to trust it.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dear <a href="https://twitter.com/majorgauravarya?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@majorgauravarya</a> all your Bugtis, Marris & Mengals contacts have scurried from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Balochistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Balochistan</a> & your payroll information is outdated. Since your retirement Balochistan has changed alot.<br>Your wet dreams won't land you a new job. In the meantime, keep prattling on Arnab's show. <a href="https://t.co/ZpDm08vODC">pic.twitter.com/ZpDm08vODC</a></p>— Senator Sarfraz Bugti (@PakSarfrazbugti) <a href="https://twitter.com/PakSarfrazbugti/status/1259232753943486465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2020</a></blockquote>
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[Lonewarrior]

the major guy is milking the Indian tv channels and trying to make fool the indian people ..... he knows nothing....

our Intel agencies dont give bhashan on tv channels, they act according to the time and place of their chossing ...
thre was an attack from "unknown person" on BLF leadership 2 week ago inside Iran .... according to reports hes seriously injured ....

Markhors in a hunting mood .....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As per Pakistani sources, Akhtar Nadeem Baloch is being treated in an unknown medical facility (most likely in Iran). This would be 3rd assassination/attempt on Baloch militants carried out in Iran that is being reported within 48 hours. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a> <a href="https://t.co/a0KPHUrtqL">https://t.co/a0KPHUrtqL</a></p>— FJ (@Natsecjeff) <a href="https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1254500469738700800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


https://iran.liveuamap.com/en/2020/26-april-another-assassination-attempt-in-iran---akhtar-nadeem

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Indians and their so called few phone directory contacts are living in a fools paradise.. <a href="https://t.co/Xj3znhIucO">https://t.co/Xj3znhIucO</a></p>— Jam Kamal Khan (@jam_kamal) <a href="https://twitter.com/jam_kamal/status/1259485641265602561?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 10, 2020</a></blockquote>
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[Gharib Aadmi]

They can try, but as half of Baluchistan is Pashtun they wont have much luck. Not to mention that millions of Punjabis and Sindhis are of Baloch descent.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">- Video Clip of Wadera Jalal Kalpar (Chief of Kalpar tribe) from Dera Bughti for Retired Indian Major Gorav Arya. <a href="https://twitter.com/majorgauravarya?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@majorgauravarya</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaSponsoringBLA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaSponsoringBLA</a> <a href="https://t.co/w0q5gPd75x">pic.twitter.com/w0q5gPd75x</a></p>— Engr.Saad Kaleem&#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816; (@ZarbeKaleemi) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZarbeKaleemi/status/1259540274323357697?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 10, 2020</a></blockquote>
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[Syed1]

They can try, but as half of Baluchistan is Pashtun they wont have much luck. Not to mention that millions of Punjabis and Sindhis are of Baloch descent.

Awkward moment for Indians when current CM of Punjab is of Baluch descent

 

[Browncaps]

A prominent ‘Baloch activist’ has claimed that he heckled former Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif during his 2015 US tour, at the behest of Indian intelligence agency, Research and Analysis Wing (RAW). His confessions have further exposed Indian machinations in terror attacks inside Pakistan.

Ahmar Mustikhan, who is the founder of the American Friends of Balochistan (AFB) group, took to social media on Tuesday and revealed the motives behind embarrassing the Pakistani premier, after a district court in Maryland allowed him to issue public statements.

On Oct 22, 2015, Mr Mustikhan heckled Mr. Sharif as he was addressing at the US Institute for Peace in Washington before he was removed by security personnel as he continued shouting for several minutes, however, in the latest statement, the activist expressed remorse for his interruption.

The court agreed with the Baloch activist’s plea that the US constitution guaranteed his freedom of expression and so he should be allowed to issue statements on public platform.

“I did this with a heavy heart, as I have no fight with Nawaz Sharif. He is an elected prime minister,” he told the Pakistani English publication Dawn but hastened to add that he heckled others willingly. Mr. Mustikhan stated that RAW encouraged militants to kill Punjabi, Pakhtun and even Sindhi civilians. “We have no fight with civilians. They are our brothers,” he said. “They gave me a lot of mental torture [for opposing their plans]. They say if you kill, you are a hero otherwise you are zero.”

In his fresh videos, Mr. Mustikhan, who is also a journalist, claimed that he was ‘let down’ by RAW operatives working from the Indian embassy in Washington adding that one of the operatives, Nagesh Bhushan managed RAW’s Balochistan Desk. The journalist said that India was stocking terrorism in Pakistan after the Kargil war.

Read more: RAW fuels terrorists, Pakistan stays strong: Modi’s new strategies?

In his sensational confession, Mustikhan named three Balochistan-based militant groups and alleged they received funds from India for militant activities. Among others, he also named the World Baloch Organisation (WBO) and Balochistan House which have been running poster campaigns against Pakistan in Geneva, London, Washington and New York.

He further claimed that Balochistan House was run by Mehran Baloch, a former unofficial representative of Balochistan at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva. The shocking disclosure came after the petition of AFB’s two Indian supporters — Soumya Chowd*hury and Krishna Gudipati — to silence Mustikhan was turned down.

The court agreed with the Baloch activist’s plea that the US constitution guaranteed his freedom of expression and so he should be allowed to issue statements on public platform.


https://www.globalvillagespace.com/mustikhan-reveals-raw-links-to-balochistan-insurgency/

 

[Haroon786]

If there is nothing simmering, then why the sudden increase in 'public support' and corresponding increase in border incidents?

 

[Giannis]

They can try, but as half of Baluchistan is Pashtun they wont have much luck. Not to mention that millions of Punjabis and Sindhis are of Baloch descent.

Don't forget the Hazaras, they're some of the most patriotic Pakistanis and there over half a million of them.

 

[Sirris]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kalat?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kalat</a>, A child was killed while his father sustained injuries in a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/land_mine?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#land_mine</a> explosion took place in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Shurparod?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Shurparod</a> area of Union council <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DashtGoran?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DashtGoran</a> of district Kalat <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Balochistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Balochistan</a> same area, where few days back, two <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/fighters?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#fighters</a> of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BLA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BLA</a> were killed by <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Security?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Security</a> Forces.</p>— Ibrar Ahmed (@PhilanthropistI) <a href="https://twitter.com/PhilanthropistI/status/1260186298620542976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Man identified as Muhammad Khan, son of a local tribal elder, killed in yet another landmine explosion in Dera Bugti. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Balochistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Balochistan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a> <a href="https://t.co/DtliASKQYX">https://t.co/DtliASKQYX</a></p>— FJ (@Natsecjeff) <a href="https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1260607564372459521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Later, the deceased was identified as member of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Peace?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Peace</a> Force, who along with others was on patrolling, when the incident occurred, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Balochistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Balochistan</a> <a href="https://t.co/MxQQBXod7P">https://t.co/MxQQBXod7P</a></p>— Ibrar Ahmed (@PhilanthropistI) <a href="https://twitter.com/PhilanthropistI/status/1260654206848954369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

These are tragic incidents. The victims deserve our attention and help.

Where did the landmines come from? Are they being intentionally planted there or have they been around due to past wars?

I don't want to live in an area with landmines, surely they don't want to either.

Truly sad stuff!

 

[Abdullah719]

BLA have to be eradicated asap.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The BLA is a terrorist org with a long history of conducting acts of terror in Pak, including the Chinese consulate in Khi and Jinnah’s home in Ziarat. It’s leadership has had support from India and has had medical treatment there. Those are just facts. <a href="https://t.co/itOc1DCUOP">https://t.co/itOc1DCUOP</a> <a href="https://t.co/lZo4aUFEIe">pic.twitter.com/lZo4aUFEIe</a></p>— Uzair Younus عُزیر یُونس (@UzairYounus) <a href="https://twitter.com/UzairYounus/status/1277546735695470594?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Bewal Express]

The security forces have upped their game in Balochistan, and that led to capture of Yadav. They need to work even harder to finish the job.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Galwan Valley Impact -

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[MenInG]

At least eight soldiers have been killed and five wounded after a group of unidentified gunmen opened fire on a security forces convoy in the southwestern Pakistani district of Panjgur, the country’s military said.

In Tuesday's incident, three vehicles were targeted in the Gichak area, about 400km south of the Balochistan provincial capital Quetta, a brief statement by the military said.

No group has claimed responsibility for the attack.

Pakistani forces have been fighting an ethnic Baloch armed separatist movement in the region for more than a decade.

Armed separatist groups have waged a guerilla campaign in Balochistan, the country’s largest but least populated province, for years, targeting security forces, government installations and projects associated with the $60bn China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

On June 29, four Baloch Liberation Army (BLA) gunmen stormed the country’s main stock exchange in the southern city of Karachi, killing three private security guards and a policeman.

Violence by Baloch armed groups has increased in the last year, with security forces among targets.

Separatist groups have demanded independence for ethnically Baloch areas of Balochistan, accusing the Pakistani government of extracting the province’s rich natural resources while not investing in the people of the province.

Balochistan’s districts regularly rank near the bottom of Pakistan’s human development indicator rankings, and rights activists say those espousing separatist politics are routinely subjected to enforced disappearances and extrajudicial killings.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...ed-wounded-attack-convoy-200714125153094.html

 

[MenInG]

Islamabad, Pakistan – An improvised explosive device blast has killed at least three people and wounded 12 others in the southwestern Pakistani border town of Chaman, officials say.

The blast took place on Tuesday evening and targeted a police vehicle that was on routine patrol in the Levies Lines area of the town, located about 100km (62 miles) northwest of provincial capital Quetta.

“There was a motorcycle parked in front of the market [in the area] and it was filled with explosives,” Shamsullah, a local official, told Al Jazeera.

Shamsullah, known by one name as is common in the region, confirmed the death toll and number of wounded. Those killed were civilian passersby, he said, while most of the wounded were police personnel who were in the vehicle.

Images from the scene showed extensive damage to several shops in the market and broken windows on buildings around the blast site.

Chaman is a key border crossing between Pakistan and its northwestern neighbour Afghanistan, with thousands of pedestrians and many container trucks crossing each day.

Balochistan province, in which Chaman is located, is Pakistan’s largest but least densely populated and is rich in mineral resources.

It has seen a myriad of security issues in recent years, with an ethnic Baloch armed separatist movement attacking security and civilian targets for more than a decade and also several attacks by the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP, also known as Pakistani Taliban) in recent years.

In a statement, TTP spokesman Muhammad Khurasani said the armed group claimed responsibility for Tuesday’s attack.

 

[MenInG]

QUETTA: A bomb blast in Balochistan's capital city of Quetta on Wednesday evening killed three people while leaving 11 others injured, Geo News reported, citing hospital sources.

According to police, the blast took place in a parking lot located near the Serena Chowk at Sharah-e-Zarghoon.

Per Geo News, the bomb was planted inside a car.

Several vehicles parked in the area were damaged due to the intensity of the blast, the police said, adding that the wounded have been shifted to Quetta's Civil Hospital.

Per witnesses, soon after the blast occurred, a fire brigade arrived at the parking area to put out the fire that some cars had caught. Firefighters were able to extinguish the fire and a cooling process is currently underway.

The blast, owing to its intensity, could be heard several kilometres away as well.

Police said it is trying to figure out the intensity of the blast. The area has been cordoned off and an investigation is underway.

GEO

 

[syed abbas]

The future of Pakistan looks very very scary.Rise of the TLP, resurgence of the TTP, uncertainty in Afghanistan and sectarian divide are only some of the challenges that the country faces.As usual,the government will blame external forces for the bomb blast to hide its own failures, especially intelligence failures.Even if India is involved- let's assume for a while-what was our intelligence agency doing?

 

[ChTab]

ISLAMABAD - In the wake of killing of 11 coal miners in the Mach district of Balochistan, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed on Friday warned that the federal and all the provincial capitals were under threat of fresh wave of terrorism.

“Islamabad and Lahore, Karachi, Quetta, and Peshawar are under fresh wave of terrorism and they are on high alert,” the minister said while addressing a press conference. He said that the intelligence reports suggest that the country is facing threats from India’s RAW and those working on the payroll of others. He also said twenty political personalities, including religious figures, were also under threats and they had been informed about it.

The interior minister condemned the Mach incident in strong terms and added that Hazara community was being targeted for the past many years and international forces were behind this. “I as interior minister cannot confirm that which terrorist group was behind this incident,” he said adding that a search operation was under the way to reach the culprits.

After the incident, the militant organization Islamic State (IS), also known as Daesh, had claimed responsibility for the killings. “We have busted four gangs during the last few months who were trying to spread sectarian clashes in the country by killing Ulema of the Shia and Sunni sects,” Sheikh Rashid said. He also said one of the gangs was arrested from Bharakahu area of Islamabad, and others from Karachi and Sargodha.

The Minister for Interior said that a joint information team (JIT) had been constituted to probe the killings of innocent labourers while district police officer, deputy commissioner and the entire administration concerned have had also been placed under suspension.

He said that the killings of people of Hazara community are part of the hybrid war against Pakistan. He informed that all the demands of Hazara community except the one for removal of the provincial government had been accepted. “However, it is regretful that some people are doing politics over burial of dead bodies,” he said adding that there was enough time for them to do politics and they should realize the gravity of the situation. He said that the implementation on their demands had also been started.

Sheikh Rashid said that the help of some Ulema and elders has been sought to negotiate with the protesters and hoped that the issue would be resolved soon. He said that Special Assistant to PM on Overseas Pakistanis Zulfi Bukhari and Minister for Maritime Affairs Ali Zaidi were also staying in Quetta and hoped they would be able to convince the Hazara community for early burial of the deceased. He said that the government has sought cooperation from Shia Ulema, Majlis Wahdatul Muslimeen (MWM) and some scholars to play their role so that the families would bury the deceased. “There will be a positive outcome of talks.”

The interior minister said Prime Minister Imran Khan would leave for Quetta shortly after the burial issue was resolved. He said the Prime Minister wanted to go there for a detailed meeting after the burial, so the talks could be held in better environment. “PM is ready and he also has had special sympathy for Hazara community. PM has a political approach to culminate those spreading sectarianism and terrorism.”

The minister said that directives had been issued to FC to conduct search in the Mach area so those involved in the killing could be brought to justice. He said that those Afghan national killed in the incident would also be given compensation.

About the performance of intelligence and law enforcement agencies, the minister said that they had taken many actions in the past but these could not be shared with the media. Responding a question about the delay in the visit of PM to Quetta, he said that there was some information that cannot be shared.

The interior minister said that speeches of PPP Chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari and vice president PML-N Maryam Nawaz at the protest sit-in in Quetta were political in nature. He said that JUI-F leader Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haideri, according to some media reports, had stressed upon the protestors not to end the sit-in.


https://nation.com.pk/09-Jan-2021/islamabad-lahore-karachi-quetta-peshawar-on-high-alert

 

[KingKhanWC]

The future of Pakistan looks very very scary.Rise of the TLP, resurgence of the TTP, uncertainty in Afghanistan and sectarian divide are only some of the challenges that the country faces.As usual,the government will blame external forces for the bomb blast to hide its own failures, especially intelligence failures.Even if India is involved- let's assume for a while-what was our intelligence agency doing?

TTP will die out once the invaders leave Afghanistan. Its not as usual, its well known outside nations are behind these attacks. Intelligence has stopped most attacks, it can never be 100%. Unless you think its an inside job, CIA couldnt stop a plane hitting the Pentagon.

Sad, thoughts with the victims and their families.

 

[Bigboii]

The future of Pakistan looks very very scary.Rise of the TLP, resurgence of the TTP, uncertainty in Afghanistan and sectarian divide are only some of the challenges that the country faces.As usual,the government will blame external forces for the bomb blast to hide its own failures, especially intelligence failures.Even if India is involved- let's assume for a while-what was our intelligence agency doing?

That region is a mess lots of potential but lots to overcome too

The best government in Pakistan isn't the one with the best economic policies cause there's so much potential it'll happen on it's own

But the gov that can bring stability in the diverse country

Pakistan should look for the best "politician" in the country to solve that problem rather than the most decorated person

 

[Bigboii]

^
We need Misbah type guy for Pakistan

A calm,cool collected politicn who can keep everyone happy and bring stability in it's policies

 

[Zeshan547]

^
We need Misbah type guy for Pakistan

A calm,cool collected politicn who can keep everyone happy and bring stability in it's policies

That really cracked me hard, post of the year, Misbah jesi fake stability, I dread the final outcomes.

 

[moghul]

^
We need Misbah type guy for Pakistan

A calm,cool collected politicn who can keep everyone happy and bring stability in it's policies

Who won't mind making India happy at the cost of defeat to Pakistan.

 

[PakLFC]

India is involved in Baluchistan and Pak is involved in the Sikh and Kashmiri movements too, perhaps others as well. Anyone is denial is living in cuckoo land.

 

[saeedhk]

The TTP is not supported by India. We need to accept that our own Pakistanis are blowing us up.

 

[Bigboii]

The TTP is not supported by India. We need to accept that our own Pakistanis are blowing us up.

TTP is dead dude

It's been like years already...

 

[saeedhk]

TTP is dead dude

It's been like years already...

Not fully dead. If you follow the news, they have been claiming responsibility for attacks every now and then. They even gunned down a cop in Islamabad.

They also claimed this attack too. They said it was carried out by a suicide bomber.

 

[Nadeemp]

India is involved in Baluchistan and Pak is involved in the Sikh and Kashmiri movements too, perhaps others as well. Anyone is denial is living in cuckoo land.

Spot on

 

[ahsan17]

The TTP is not supported by India. We need to accept that our own Pakistanis are blowing us up.

I don't think anyone claimed Indian support for TTP implied Indians blowing themselves up. It amounts to the support similar to what Mujahideen got from US in the Soviet war. Primarily weapons, funding, training, finding targets, etc.

 

[PakLFC]

Pak has the advantage of playing the Muslim card in India which we do very well. What Pak has to do is improve it's economy so that the downtrodden people of our country particularly Baluchistan can not be bought by RAW. TTP can be pacified or removed if need be with the help of the Afghan Taliban.

 

[Thomaskutty]

India isn't meddling in Balochistan. The Baloch have been fighting for their freedom ever since they were forcefully annexed in 1947 by Pakistan's army. They have started numerous homegrown insurgencies in the last 70 years only to be crushed by the state.

 

[saeedhk]

I don't think anyone claimed Indian support for TTP implied Indians blowing themselves up. It amounts to the support similar to what Mujahideen got from US in the Soviet war. Primarily weapons, funding, training, finding targets, etc.

I do not think so. The TTP hates Hindus as much as they hate the Pakistani state. Besides,there is no evidence apart from a forced confession from Ahsanullah.

 

[RajBan]

India is involved in Baluchistan and Pak is involved in the Sikh and Kashmiri movements too, perhaps others as well. Anyone is denial is living in cuckoo land.

There is no Sikh movement other than few disgrunted groups in UK and Canada who get into rally mode once in a while and Pakistan do fund some of them to create noise in Western media. However majority of NRI Sikh community remains indifferent to such baseless posturing. Nothing in India even though political gimmicks happen.

The rest around Kashmir and Baluchistan is true.

 

[miandadrules]

I do not think so. The TTP hates Hindus as much as they hate the Pakistani state. Besides,there is no evidence apart from a forced confession from Ahsanullah.

This is flawed logic.

Geopolitics doesn’t toe ideological lines. To say otherwise is simply naive.

 

[MenInG]

A powerful bomb exploded in the parking lot of the Serena Hotel in Quetta on Wednesday night, killing at least four people and wounding 12 others, officials said.

DIG Azhar Ikram said that the explosive device was apparently fitted in a vehicle, according to initial investigations. He added that a police official was among the deceased.

Security, fire and rescue officials were rushing to the hotel and no one was being allowed to go near the site of the blast, which took place at around 10:15pm.

Addressing a press conference some time after the incident, Balochistan Home Minister Mir Ziaullah Langove said that there was a wave of terrorism in the region. "Our own people are involved in these acts of terrorism," he said, adding that there were no threat alerts before the attack.

Addressing media reports about the Chinese ambassador being the apparent target of the attack, Langove said that the ambassador was not present at the hotel when the explosion occurred.

"I have just met the Chinese ambassador and he is in high spirits," he said, adding that the investigation will ascertain the target.

Balochistan government spokesperson Liaquat Shahwani said the incident was being investigated from all angles. "Those involved will not be able to escape the grip of the law," he tweeted.

According to The Associated Press, Shahwani called the bombing an act of terrorism without elaborating. “Enemies of Pakistan are behind today’s attack,” he said.

Quetta Deputy Commissioner Aurangzeb Badini confirmed on Twitter that four people had died and a dozen injured in the explosion.

Quetta Civil Hospital Medical Superintendent Arbab Kamran Kasi earlier confirmed the casualties, saying two people were in critical condition.

Balochistan Inspector General of Police Tahir Rai told Dawn.com that the explosion occurred in the parking lot of Serena Hotel.

He added that the hotel premises had been cordoned off and the Counter-Terrorism Department (CTD) had been deployed to investigate the incident.

"The Quetta Serena Hotel is the only four-star deluxe hotel in the city of Quetta," according to the hotel's website. It is located on the Shahrah-e-Zarghun Road.

Footage shared from the scene showed burning cars, with huge flames and plumes of smoke rising into the sky.

In a tweet, Balochistan Chief Minister Jam Kamal Khan said he "strongly condemn[ed]" the explosion.

Badini said the casualties of the blast had been shifted to hospital. "[The] situation is under control, people are requested to avoid rumours and don’t create panic," he tweeted.

Federal Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry said the interior ministry was in close contact with the Balochistan government and that initial investigations were underway. "The government will issue a statement as soon as the nature of the blast and losses are determined," he added.

Senator Sarfaraz Ahmed Bugti also condemned the attack, saying "Terrorists have once again demonstrated that they [do] not have the decency to respect the sanctity of even the holy month of Ramzan."

He urged the government to "ruthlessly chase down the monsters behind today's terror attack. An appropriate response is a necessity. Our security forces have the capability and capacity to give a befitting response."

The incident comes a week after 12 people were injured in an explosion during a football tournament being held at a ground in Allahbad Town located in Balochistan's industrial town of Hub.

The tournament was dedicated to police martyrs. "The explosion occurred while the final match was being played," Lasbela SSP Tariq Ilahi had said.

There have been deadly explosions and attacks at other luxury hotels in the country in the past as well.

In May 2019, at least five people were killed and several injured in a gun-and-bomb attack targeting the five-star Pearl Continental hotel in Gwadar. It was claimed by the banned Balochistan Liberation Army.

In 2008, 60 people were killed when a suicide bomber rammed a truck packed with 600 kilogrammes of high explosives into the outer gates of the five-star Marriott hotel in Islamabad. The attack destroyed part of the hotel which was then shut down and opened a few months later surrounded by a massive, bomb-proof wall.

The following year, at least nine people were killed in a gun and suicide car bomb attack at Peshawar's five-star Pearl Continental. The blast caused widespread damage to the five-storey building. A mosque, two main halls and the lobby of the hotel were badly damaged.

Restive province
There has been an uptick in violence in Balochistan, with several incidents of terrorism being reported last year.

On October 16, seven soldiers of Frontier Corps (FC) Balochistan and seven security guards were martyred in an 'encounter' with a "large number of terrorists" while escorting a convoy of state-run Oil & Gas Development Company Ltd (OGDCL) on the Makran Coastal Highway in Ormara.

The convoy was on its way to Karachi from Gwadar when it came under attack.

In August last year, at least eight people, including police and FC personnel, were injured in a blast in Hub.

In April 2019, at least 14 people, including 11 personnel of Navy, Air Force and Coast Guards, were killed by gunmen after they were picked out with the help of their computerised national identity cards (CNICs) and offloaded from seven buses in the Buzi Pass area near Ormara.

DAWN

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: Interior Minister Sheikh Rasheed on Thursday said that India does not want to see peace in Pakistan, but all their attempts to create unrest in the country will fail.

The interior minister, in a statement after a blast in Quetta, said that this is the safest area in the city and foreigners also stay in this hotel.

At least five people were killed and 10 injured in the explosion along the city's Zarghun Road Wednesday.

Rasheed said that a vehicle somehow managed to enter the hotel, adding that "hotel security [staff] is fine, one or two personnel are injured."

"There must be some breach in security and that is why an explosive-laden car was able to enter.”

Read more: 5 dead, 10 injured in blast near hotel on Zarghun Road

The federal minister added that India does not want peace in Pakistan, but their attempt to damage Pakistan will fail.

"Anti-Pakistan elements want to damage the country's peace. Terrorists shall meet their end."

Sharing further details on the law and order situation in the country, he said that there were threats for such an attack in Quetta, Peshawar, Karachi, Islamabad and Rawalpindi.

Chinese Ambassador Nong Rong, who was staying at the same hotel, was not present at the time of the blast, Rasheed added. “He was attending a function at another place in the city.”

'Primary responsibility of security rests with the hotel'

IG Balochistan Muhammad Tahir Rai spoke to the media and said experts in the police force were conducting an investigation, adding that they would soon make public the findings of the probe.

Rai said the blast had damaged five to six vehicles in the parking area.

Balochistan government spokesperson Liaquat Shahwani spoke to Geo News to condemn the incident, describing it as a "terrorist attack" committed by those who did not wish to see Balochistan prosper.

He said an investigation was being carried out and the perpetrators of the blast will not be able to escape the law.

When asked whether the blast resulted due to a security lapse on part of the government, he said the primary responsibility of security rested with the hotel.

Shahwani said the hotel had its own scanners through which guests were inspected thoroughly and that vehicles entering and exiting the parking lot also had to pass through barricades, before they were checked for any explosive item.

He said the investigation into the bomb blast will take note of loopholes.

When asked whether there were any foreign delegations present inside the hotel when the blast occurred, Shahwani said there was only one "luxurious hotel" in Quetta where envoys and diplomats came to have hi-tea.

GEO

 

[OMB]

There is no Sikh movement other than few disgrunted groups in UK and Canada who get into rally mode once in a while and Pakistan do fund some of them to create noise in Western media. However majority of NRI Sikh community remains indifferent to such baseless posturing. Nothing in India even though political gimmicks happen.

The rest around Kashmir and Baluchistan is true.

Sikh movement in India?
Amazing, great people, this community does lot of social work and is always ready to provide help to anyone. Lot of respect for them too

 

[ahsan17]

I do not think so. The TTP hates Hindus as much as they hate the Pakistani state. Besides,there is no evidence apart from a forced confession from Ahsanullah.

There was overwhelming evidence provided just a few months ago.

 

[MenInG]

Prime Minister Imran Khan expressed on Thursday the commitment that to not allow the scourge of terrorism to rise again in the country as the nation made great sacrifices in defeating it.

The premier's remarks came a day after at least five people, including two private security guards, were killed and 12 others injured in a powerful blast that took place in the parking lot of Serena Hotel, Quetta late Wednesday night.

In a tweet, PM Imran said that he was deeply saddened by the loss of innocent lives in the condemnable and cowardly terrorist attack in Quetta.

According to reports, the prime minister himself monitored the situation late last night and directed the Ministry of Interior to investigate the incident from all its aspects and probe the matter thoroughly.

Earlier it was reported that the banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has claimed responsibility for the Serena hotel blast. A spokesman for the TTP said, “Our suicide bomber used his explosive-filled car in the hotel."

However, police said the initial investigation revealed that the explosive device was planted in a car that was parked in the hotel's parking area.

After the blast, many vehicles caught fire which burnt down seven cars and other vehicles. The windowpanes of nearby Balochistan Assembly, High Court and other buildings smashed due to the impact of the powerful blast.

Injured include two assistant commissioners of the Balochistan government, who were present in the hotel when the blast occurred, were immediately shifted to the Civil Hospital Quetta along with other wounded people. Hotel officials said that some employees of the hotel were missing.

Officials said that the Chinese ambassador and other Chinese officials were staying at the hotel but were not present in the hotel when the blast took place in the parking lot.

"All guests staying in the hotel were deemed safe in the blast," officials said.

Express Tribune

 

[ahsan17]

Well, terrorism never really went away in Balochistan. That place still needs a large scale operation like we saw in tribal areas.

 

[saeedhk]

There was overwhelming evidence provided just a few months ago.

Where?

 

[ahsan17]

Where?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1590333

Not to mention Jadhav and the fact that he was carrying a genuine Indian passport with fake identity, meaning he was provided that identity by GoI.

 

[saeedhk]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1590333

Not to mention Jadhav and the fact that he was carrying a genuine Indian passport with fake identity, meaning he was provided that identity by GoI.

If that is the case, how come no solid evidence has ever been provided by Pakistan at the international stage? Why has no country ever taken claims of Indian-sponsored terror in Pakistan seriously?

That being side, I do believe that RAW may be aiding the BLA on a small scale but not the TTP or the LeJ or any other terror outfit.

 

[ahsan17]

If that is the case, how come no solid evidence has ever been provided by Pakistan at the international stage? Why has no country ever taken claims of Indian-sponsored terror in Pakistan seriously?

That being side, I do believe that RAW may be aiding the BLA on a small scale but not the TTP or the LeJ or any other terror outfit.

Pakistan presented this evidence at UN as well. As for why no country has taken such claims seriously, I would imagine you would know the answer. Geopolitical and economic interests. The countries that you are talking about also launched the Iraq war based on a lie. So what validation are you looking for by having them endorse this evidence?

 

[saeedhk]

Pakistan presented this evidence at UN as well. As for why no country has taken such claims seriously, I would imagine you would know the answer. Geopolitical and economic interests. The countries that you are talking about also launched the Iraq war based on a lie. So what validation are you looking for by having them endorse this evidence?

It is simple. The evidence was nothing but a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Let alone the international community, even the average Pakistani who has suffered so much due to terror is yet to see any Indian involvement. It is high time that we take ownership of our failings and incompetencies, and stop blaming others for our shortcomings.

 

[OMB]

Quetta hotel blast was a suicide attack, says interior minister

Interior Minister Sheikh Rasheed said Thursday the blast that took place a day earlier in the parking of a hotel, was a suicide bomb attack.

The minister was holding a news conference to discuss the Quetta bomb blast from last night, which killed four and injured 12 others.

Rasheed pointed towards India's activities aimed at destabilising Pakistan, saying that during the past eight to 10 days, an estimated 250,000-300,000 social media accounts were created in India. He said these were efforts to destabilise Pakistan from within "by foreign elements".

"These foreign forces cannot see Pakistan prosper and progress," said the minister.

Rasheed said the Ministry of Interior had placed all 22 law enforcement institutions under its jurisdiction, which include the FC, Rangers, Coastal Guards and others to remain on "high alert".

He said Pakistan was a great nation and with the help of its great armed forces and intelligence agencies, will thwart all evil designs as well as conspiracies being hatched in India, against it.

Updating the masses about the casualties and the wounded in the blast, Rasheed said out of the 11 who were injured, six had left the hospital after getting treated.

"The rest are in hospital, out of which only two to three are in a critical state," he said.

Responding to a question, the interior minister clarified the Chinese ambassador was in Quetta for the past few days and is safe. He rejected speculation that the Chinese ambassador was at the hotel when the blast took place, saying that the diplomat was somewhere else.

When asked whether there will be chaos and anarchy in the country in the recent days, Rasheed replied in the negative. He said an elected prime minister, a great army and 220 million people were the guardians of the nation.

"We know how to live and die for this country," he said.

The minister said a forensic investigation was being conducted into the attack, adding that so far, the terrorists have not been identified yet.

CTD confirms blast was a suicide bomb attack
Four people were killed and 12 others were injured when a blast, which was heard for several kilometres in the city, took place at the parking of a hotel located at Serena Chowk.

Earlier, the CTD spokesperson said evidence collected from the blast site indicates that the attack was a suicide bomb blast.

"At the time of the blast, the suicide bomber was inside the car [that exploded]," said the spokesperson.

He said the CTD was still trying to determine the intensity of the blast.

Quetta blast
Security was tightened in the city on Thursday after a powerful blast rocked the city, in which five people died and 10 others were injured in the provincial capital, last night.

When the investigation was kicked off last night after the blast, police initially said explosive material had been installed in a car that had been detonated.

The Bomb Disposal Unit (BDU) had said 40-50kgs of explosives were used in the blast.

Special Assistant to the Prime Minister on National Security Division Moeed Yousaf on Thursday tweeted about the Quetta bomb blast, saying Pakistan will "remain resolute and steadfast in the face of any enemy nexus that seeks to rekindle terrorism".


'PM worked all night'
Meanwhile, the Prime Minister's Office has directed the Interior Ministry to investigate every aspect of the blast and get to the bottom of the matter.

According to a spokesperson, the premier had been monitoring the Quetta blast updates till late last night.

Expressing deep sorrow, the premier had said he is deeply saddened by the loss of innocent lives in the "condemnable and cowardly terrorist attack in Quetta".


"Our nation has made great sacrifices in defeating terrorism and we will not allow this scourge to rise again. We remain alert to all internal & external threats," read the prime minister's tweet.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/346678-quetta-hotel-blast-was-a-suicide-bomb-attack-says-ctd

 

[ChTab]

Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid on Thursday said that the bomb blast at Quetta's Serena Hotel a day earlier — which claimed the lives of five people and injured at least a dozen — was a suicide attack with its real objective being to "disrupt peace in Pakistan".

Speaking to the media in Islamabad, he said he was issuing the statement in light of the queries raised by international media.

"The [attacker] was a suicide bomber and used C4 explosives, weighing between 60 to 70 kilogrammes. The suicide attacker stayed in the car which has been sent for forensic [analysis]."

Talking about the injured, he said six of them remained in hospital, while one or two were in critical condition.

Rashid said the attack was carried out by "forces which opposed the country's development and wanted to undo the stability gained by the PTI government", as well as disrupt Quetta's peaceful environment.

"We had handed over the command of 13 security check posts to police, and the Frontier Corps were also ready to leave several others before this bloody incident," he added.

Without elaborating, Rashid said a final decision will be taken after investigations, adding that he had directed the provincial chief secretary to immediately look into the incident.

He said Gwadar and Balochistan were important for Pakistan's progress, terming Gwadar the "future" of the country.

On Wednesday night, a powerful bomb exploded in the parking lot of the Serena Hotel in Quetta, killing at least five people and wounding 12 others.

DIG Azhar Ikram said at the time that the explosive device was apparently fitted in a vehicle, citing initial investigations. He added that a police official was among the deceased.

Responding to a question today, Rashid said the Chinese ambassador was currently present in Balochistan and was safe. "There will be no chaos, we are safe," he stressed.

China is Pakistan's experienced friend, he said, adding that the friendship between the two countries was "higher than the Himalayan mountains".

He said enemy forces were "thinking about terrorism" in big cities in the country because of the way "Pakistan is going towards progress [and] how its economy has taken off under [Prime Minister] Imran Khan's guidance".

He said this was why the interior ministry had directed all 22 security-related departments under it, including the FC, Rangers and Coastal Guards, to be on high alert.

"We are a great nation and the great army and agencies are the country's assets. The way Pakistan Army defeated terrorism by laying down some 60,000 lives, [in the same way,] Pakistan Army, the great agencies and the 220 million people will defeat TTP (Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan) that is reorganising, and plots hatched in the neighbouring country," he said.

Rashid said between 250,000 and 300,000 social media accounts had been created by people in India within the last eight to 10 days. "I cannot speak about accounts opened in America and Korea. I said previously that there are attempts to internally destabilise Pakistan by forces outside the country," he added.

"They cannot bear [to see] Pakistan growing and prospering."

Ministers and government departments were looking for a solution so a law regarding social media could be enacted and Pakistan would "not have to go through threats", he said.

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Imran Khan condemned the incident, calling it a "cowardly terrorist attack".

"I am deeply saddened by the loss of innocent lives in the condemnable and cowardly terrorist attack in Quetta. Our nation has made great sacrifices in defeating terrorism and we will not to allow this scourge to rise again. We remain alert to all internal & external threats," he said.

'All Chinese nationals safe'
The Foreign Office on Thursday strongly condemned the terrorist attack, saying it would "not shake our resolve to resolutely fight the scourge of terrorism".

In a series of tweets, Foreign Office Spokesperson Zahid Hafeez Chaudhri was quoted as saying that all Chinese nationals were safe.

"All necessary measures are in place for the safety and security of Chinese diplomats and nationals," he added.

Chaudhri said investigations were being carried out from all angles. "Pakistan will pursue the perpetrators of this heinous act and bring them to justice."

The Chinese embassy in Pakistan also said it had not received any reports of Chinese casualties in the attack.

In a statement, it said China "strongly condemns" the terrorist attack and offered condolences on the lives lost.

The Chinese ambassador was visiting Quetta along with a delegation yesterday, however, the delegation was not present in the hotel at the time of the attack, it added.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1619704/q...pt-pakistans-peace-progress-interior-minister

 

[IndoorCricket]

Quetta hotel blast was a suicide attack, says interior minister

Interior Minister Sheikh Rasheed said Thursday the blast that took place a day earlier in the parking of a hotel, was a suicide bomb attack.

The minister was holding a news conference to discuss the Quetta bomb blast from last night, which killed four and injured 12 others.

Rasheed pointed towards India's activities aimed at destabilising Pakistan, saying that during the past eight to 10 days, an estimated 250,000-300,000 social media accounts were created in India. He said these were efforts to destabilise Pakistan from within "by foreign elements".

"These foreign forces cannot see Pakistan prosper and progress," said the minister.

Rasheed said the Ministry of Interior had placed all 22 law enforcement institutions under its jurisdiction, which include the FC, Rangers, Coastal Guards and others to remain on "high alert".

He said Pakistan was a great nation and with the help of its great armed forces and intelligence agencies, will thwart all evil designs as well as conspiracies being hatched in India, against it.

Updating the masses about the casualties and the wounded in the blast, Rasheed said out of the 11 who were injured, six had left the hospital after getting treated.

"The rest are in hospital, out of which only two to three are in a critical state," he said.

Responding to a question, the interior minister clarified the Chinese ambassador was in Quetta for the past few days and is safe. He rejected speculation that the Chinese ambassador was at the hotel when the blast took place, saying that the diplomat was somewhere else.

When asked whether there will be chaos and anarchy in the country in the recent days, Rasheed replied in the negative. He said an elected prime minister, a great army and 220 million people were the guardians of the nation.

"We know how to live and die for this country," he said.

The minister said a forensic investigation was being conducted into the attack, adding that so far, the terrorists have not been identified yet.

CTD confirms blast was a suicide bomb attack
Four people were killed and 12 others were injured when a blast, which was heard for several kilometres in the city, took place at the parking of a hotel located at Serena Chowk.

Earlier, the CTD spokesperson said evidence collected from the blast site indicates that the attack was a suicide bomb blast.

"At the time of the blast, the suicide bomber was inside the car [that exploded]," said the spokesperson.

He said the CTD was still trying to determine the intensity of the blast.

Quetta blast
Security was tightened in the city on Thursday after a powerful blast rocked the city, in which five people died and 10 others were injured in the provincial capital, last night.

When the investigation was kicked off last night after the blast, police initially said explosive material had been installed in a car that had been detonated.

The Bomb Disposal Unit (BDU) had said 40-50kgs of explosives were used in the blast.

Special Assistant to the Prime Minister on National Security Division Moeed Yousaf on Thursday tweeted about the Quetta bomb blast, saying Pakistan will "remain resolute and steadfast in the face of any enemy nexus that seeks to rekindle terrorism".


'PM worked all night'
Meanwhile, the Prime Minister's Office has directed the Interior Ministry to investigate every aspect of the blast and get to the bottom of the matter.

According to a spokesperson, the premier had been monitoring the Quetta blast updates till late last night.

Expressing deep sorrow, the premier had said he is deeply saddened by the loss of innocent lives in the "condemnable and cowardly terrorist attack in Quetta".


"Our nation has made great sacrifices in defeating terrorism and we will not allow this scourge to rise again. We remain alert to all internal & external threats," read the prime minister's tweet.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/346678-quetta-hotel-blast-was-a-suicide-bomb-attack-says-ctd

Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid on Thursday said that the bomb blast at Quetta's Serena Hotel a day earlier — which claimed the lives of five people and injured at least a dozen — was a suicide attack with its real objective being to "disrupt peace in Pakistan".

Speaking to the media in Islamabad, he said he was issuing the statement in light of the queries raised by international media.

"The [attacker] was a suicide bomber and used C4 explosives, weighing between 60 to 70 kilogrammes. The suicide attacker stayed in the car which has been sent for forensic [analysis]."

Talking about the injured, he said six of them remained in hospital, while one or two were in critical condition.

Rashid said the attack was carried out by "forces which opposed the country's development and wanted to undo the stability gained by the PTI government", as well as disrupt Quetta's peaceful environment.

"We had handed over the command of 13 security check posts to police, and the Frontier Corps were also ready to leave several others before this bloody incident," he added.

Without elaborating, Rashid said a final decision will be taken after investigations, adding that he had directed the provincial chief secretary to immediately look into the incident.

He said Gwadar and Balochistan were important for Pakistan's progress, terming Gwadar the "future" of the country.

On Wednesday night, a powerful bomb exploded in the parking lot of the Serena Hotel in Quetta, killing at least five people and wounding 12 others.

DIG Azhar Ikram said at the time that the explosive device was apparently fitted in a vehicle, citing initial investigations. He added that a police official was among the deceased.

Responding to a question today, Rashid said the Chinese ambassador was currently present in Balochistan and was safe. "There will be no chaos, we are safe," he stressed.

China is Pakistan's experienced friend, he said, adding that the friendship between the two countries was "higher than the Himalayan mountains".

He said enemy forces were "thinking about terrorism" in big cities in the country because of the way "Pakistan is going towards progress [and] how its economy has taken off under [Prime Minister] Imran Khan's guidance".

He said this was why the interior ministry had directed all 22 security-related departments under it, including the FC, Rangers and Coastal Guards, to be on high alert.

"We are a great nation and the great army and agencies are the country's assets. The way Pakistan Army defeated terrorism by laying down some 60,000 lives, [in the same way,] Pakistan Army, the great agencies and the 220 million people will defeat TTP (Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan) that is reorganising, and plots hatched in the neighbouring country," he said.

Rashid said between 250,000 and 300,000 social media accounts had been created by people in India within the last eight to 10 days. "I cannot speak about accounts opened in America and Korea. I said previously that there are attempts to internally destabilise Pakistan by forces outside the country," he added.

"They cannot bear [to see] Pakistan growing and prospering."

Ministers and government departments were looking for a solution so a law regarding social media could be enacted and Pakistan would "not have to go through threats", he said.

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Imran Khan condemned the incident, calling it a "cowardly terrorist attack".

"I am deeply saddened by the loss of innocent lives in the condemnable and cowardly terrorist attack in Quetta. Our nation has made great sacrifices in defeating terrorism and we will not to allow this scourge to rise again. We remain alert to all internal & external threats," he said.

'All Chinese nationals safe'
The Foreign Office on Thursday strongly condemned the terrorist attack, saying it would "not shake our resolve to resolutely fight the scourge of terrorism".

In a series of tweets, Foreign Office Spokesperson Zahid Hafeez Chaudhri was quoted as saying that all Chinese nationals were safe.

"All necessary measures are in place for the safety and security of Chinese diplomats and nationals," he added.

Chaudhri said investigations were being carried out from all angles. "Pakistan will pursue the perpetrators of this heinous act and bring them to justice."

The Chinese embassy in Pakistan also said it had not received any reports of Chinese casualties in the attack.

In a statement, it said China "strongly condemns" the terrorist attack and offered condolences on the lives lost.

The Chinese ambassador was visiting Quetta along with a delegation yesterday, however, the delegation was not present in the hotel at the time of the attack, it added.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1619704/q...pt-pakistans-peace-progress-interior-minister

Tell me why these reports belong to this thread?

 

[Bigboii]

Tell me why these reports belong to this thread?

See the article after it, giving the whole story

As in what happened 1st article
What Pakistan made of this incident 2 nd article

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: President Arif Alvi on Thursday said India is using Afghanistan's soil to carry out terrorist activities in Balochistan.

The Pakistani president was speaking to the US media on various issues. On ties between New Delhi and Islamabad, he said Pakistan cannot move towards normalisation of ties with India it rolls back its August 5 decision to scrap Indian-occupied Kashmir's autonomy.

He commented on the Afghan Reconciliation Process, saying that the US's decision to withdraw its forces from the war-torn country is a positive step towards peace in Afghanistan.

"Pakistan will try to persuade the Taliban to take part in the Turkey conference," said the president.

On India's involvement in terrorist activities in Pakistan, Alvi said Pakistan has informed the global community of India's designs.

"India is using the Afghan soil to meddle in the affairs of Balochistan and carry out terrorism there," he said.

Alvi also said the relations between Pakistan and the United States are improving.

He touched upon the topic of Pakistan's internal affairs, stating that when it comes to reconciliation between the government and the Opposition, the matter of accountability is of primary importance.

"Due to the Opposition's lack of cooperation, the government has failed to pass a lot of legislation," he said.

President Alvi said he completely trusts the judiciary which is why the Justice Qazi Faez Isa reference was sent to the Supreme Judicial Council.

A couple of days ago, a session of the National Assembly was called during which a PTI lawmaker passed the resolution to debate on the expulsion of the French ambassador.

Violent protests staged by the proscribed organisation Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) triggered clashes which led to the deaths of four police officers, while 800 were wounded. One of the main demands of the TLP from the government is to expel the ambassador of France after French President Emmanuel Macron supported blasphemous sketches published by French magazine, Charlie Hebdo.

Following the clashes, the government held talks with the TLP and decided to submit a resolution in the National Assembly seeking the expulsion of the French envoy.

Alvi said Pakistan is a democratic country and a resolution demanding the expulsion of the French ambassador is presented in the lower house for debate.

"I don't have the right to say something which, under the garb of freedom of speech, injures the sentiments of others," he said.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/346736-de...n-after-resolution-is-approved-president-alvi

 

[ahsan17]

It is simple. The evidence was nothing but a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Let alone the international community, even the average Pakistani who has suffered so much due to terror is yet to see any Indian involvement. It is high time that we take ownership of our failings and incompetencies, and stop blaming others for our shortcomings.

I mean this is all clearly your own opinion, you didn't post any evidence to suggest Pakistanis think the way you are claiming they do.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

It is simple. The evidence was nothing but a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Let alone the international community, even the average Pakistani who has suffered so much due to terror is yet to see any Indian involvement. It is high time that we take ownership of our failings and incompetencies, and stop blaming others for our shortcomings.

Have you seen the evidence? If not how do you know it was mumo jumbo?

Also Pakistan did catch Indian raw agent Kalbhushan in Balochistan. Then the funding of Free Balochistan campaign by India.

Arent all these indications enough to show that India is involved in whats’s happening in Balochistan?

 

[syed abbas]

TTP will die out once the invaders leave Afghanistan. Its not as usual, its well known outside nations are behind these attacks. Intelligence has stopped most attacks, it can never be 100%. Unless you think its an inside job, CIA couldnt stop a plane hitting the Pentagon.

Sad, thoughts with the victims and their families.

You are incorrect to assume that the TTP will become dysfunctional once Americans leave Afghanistan.American withdrawal will give Afghan Taliban an upper in Afghanistan which will give the TTP ideological stimulus.Besides,Afghan Taliban will provide material and human support to the TTP.(Mullah Fazaul ullah,master mind of APS attack was appointed by top leadership of Afghan Taliban.)