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"Today, India is in far greater turmoil from a security perspective than Pakistan" : Ehsan Mani

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"Today, India is in far greater turmoil from a security perspective than Pakistan" : Ehsan Mani

Ehsan Mani at a presser today:

The biggest thing for us was to bring cricket back home. We had PSL, B teams, Women's teams but SL coming here and playing Tests was the real achievement, a landmark event. Now the whole world knows cricket has come back to Pakistan and Pakistan is completely safe.

There were no accidents or incidents, if you talk to the SL players, they are happy with the preparations. In fact, they want more freedom of movement which will come with time as people's confidence levels build.

These two Test matches are the turning point for Pakistan cricket.

We told ICC and other boards not to believe our words but to come and see. We had the CA CEO Kevin Roberts, Tom Harrison of the ECB with a board member who is a former policeman. The board member when departing said 'I wish we had security arrangements in England like you have here in Pakistan'. So they hadn't seen such state of the art things as they saw here and in Lahore.

The biggest litmus test was the PSL draft, when we asked about interest of players. 425 foreign players said they want to take part in PSL. So cricketers think Pakistan is safe.

We have been talking to the BCB since quite a while. There should be no confusion about where matches will be held - matches against Bangladesh or against any other country will be in Pakistan, there should be no doubt about it. I am still hopeful that BCB think deeply about this and accept that there is no reason for them not to come.

Bringing Sri Lanka was high risk for us because if anything happened at all, it would have been a blow but they showed that they have confidence in us and trusted us. So they came and they are going back happily, their only wish is that they had come for T20Is and ODIs also because what they were told is very different to the ground realities.

Bangladesh's security teams came here and gave positive feedback. When leaving, they said it's all clear from their side so I hope there are no political problems in this. I am hopeful they will tour.

There is no interference from me or from anyone else in PCB regarding selection. And Misbah doesn't do all the selection on his own, he has 6 selectors with him who are coaches and former players and their integrity can't be questioned. Nadeem Khan is there as the coordinator. These are credible people. In their judgement, Sarfaraz was struggling. I spoke to Sarfaraz and there are no personal issues, he's a gutsy player and I hope he sorts himself out in domestic cricket. His full commitment is for Pakistan cricket and he can make a comeback with performances.

If anyone has concern about my age, I suggest you spend a week with me in Lahore and see my work ethic. I work from 9am to 8-9pm and I work on weekends too. All my life, I have worked hard and I have no fear of hard work. If you want, you can come mountain climbing with me, I go trekking also and I work on the environment too. Age is not a factor.

I've been with ICC for a long time and I know the way it works. Any team that doesn't tour Pakistan has to prove to the ICC that it isn't safe to tour. We know it's safe and we've shown that to the world. There were incidents in Christchurch, there are incidents in Australia, England. I lived in England for 50+ years and the muggings, robberies etc. there happen all over the world. I can tell you today that probably India is in far greater turmoil from a security perspective than Pakistan is. So if anyone doesn't want to come, we will listen to them. I will not risk any player's safety or security but they need to prove why they think they aren't safe.

A big challenge for us now is our pitches. Until we don't play on pitches that can help our players to develop so that they can play overseas, our struggles will continue. The real test of a good team is to win matches overseas.

India has a new board in place and we haven't spoken to them so I can't speak about them right now.

Bangladesh's women and U16 teams came to Pakistan and left happy. If we will play them, we will play in Pakistan.

(Can this BD dispute go to the ICC) Yes, that can happen. I won't comment on that right now as we are in talks. Most of what about them from what I've seen is in the newspapers, less directly from their board. When they formally tell us about their position, we will see.

Sarfaraz was captain of Pakistan, not Karachi. I was the first Chairman who called him to my office in Lahore. He said he had never come in this office before.

Mudassar Nazar's contract finished in May but he agreed to stay for another year. He is an internationally respected coach. When I started the ICC Cricket Academy in Dubai and made Rod Marsh the Chief Coach, I asked him to find me the best batting coach in the world who can deal with Asian minds. Without thinking, he took Mudassar's name, that's how respected he is. Mudassar told me that he wants to do one year more only, his contract will finish in May. Whoever it is, a time comes for people to move on. It's never permanent. Mudassar has done a lot for Pakistan cricket and player development.

We have a lot more to do with domestic cricket. We need to recognise players who are performing well in domestic cricket. We brought in Shinwari and Fawad Alam because of their performances. Similarly, I hope Sarfaraz will perform and come back into contention. There should be no misunderstanding, that we think about Lahore, Karachi, Peshawar etc., we think about Pakistan.

Pakistan's future is the U19s and we have to professionalise them and make them excellent. Cricket is not a social game, cricketers need to be athletes. Fitness is important, food is important. This is the culture we need to bring into Pakistan cricket.
 
Yes, Pakistan is much safer than India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka. Infact it's the subcontinent's utopia.
 
Extensive damage was done in 2009 when Sri Lankan team was attacked in broad daylight and it will still take some more time.
 
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Mr Mani if you think India is not safe, dont come here.

I hope Mani remembers these statements. Because BCCI will.
 
Mani should be careful in issuing statements. On one hand he's taking potshots at India and on the other hand says he has to wait to talk with the new BCCI board. Just shows the hypocrisy.
 
I wonder what foreign offices globally are saying as I know Australia has recommended people not to travel to India
 
I wonder what foreign offices globally are saying as I know Australia has recommended people not to travel to India

and Australian National cricket team is arriving in India during 2nd week of January 2020!
 
Yes, Pakistan is much safer than India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka. Infact it's the subcontinent's utopia.

And you are basing your usual anti-Pakistan rhetoric on what recent events?
 
Mani should be careful in issuing statements. On one hand he's taking potshots at India and on the other hand says he has to wait to talk with the new BCCI board. Just shows the hypocrisy.
What he is saying is true. If BCCI wants to be petty and not indulge in talks based on this, says more about them than Mani.

I understand the misguided apprehensions of the Bangladeshis regarding touring Pakistan, but what Mani has said here is fact.
 
And you are basing your usual anti-Pakistan rhetoric on what recent events?

It's a fact that Pakistan isn't safer than the rest of the sub-continent. In this year alone there have been blasts in Lahore, Quetta, and several other places. Stuff like this doesn't happen in other sub-continental nations other than the Easter bombing in Sri Lanka. And if I'm being anti-Pakistan then pretty much 95% of this forum is anti-India/Bangladesh.
 
What he is saying is true. If BCCI wants to be petty and not indulge in talks based on this, says more about them than Mani.

I understand the misguided apprehensions of the Bangladeshis regarding touring Pakistan, but what Mani has said here is fact.

No, I'm just saying it's showcasing hypocrisy.
 
It's a fact that Pakistan isn't safer than the rest of the sub-continent. In this year alone there have been blasts in Lahore, Quetta, and several other places. Stuff like this doesn't happen in other sub-continental nations other than the Easter bombing in Sri Lanka. And if I'm being anti-Pakistan then pretty much 95% of this forum is anti-India/Bangladesh.

There are riots happening in India at the moment. You should try and keep abreast of news. That is what Mani is referring to.

Suggest go to our TimePass section for more info.
 
What he is saying is true. If BCCI wants to be petty and not indulge in talks based on this, says more about them than Mani.

I understand the misguided apprehensions of the Bangladeshis regarding touring Pakistan, but what Mani has said here is fact.

Where is he disrespecting the BCCI? he is stating facts about India as it stands now. Things could be different tomorrow and that fine.
 
Mr Mani if you think India is not safe, dont come here.

I hope Mani remembers these statements. Because BCCI will.

Is India such a perfect place that even a hint of doubt about its security situation brings out these reactions?
 
There are riots happening in India at the moment. You should try and keep abreast of news. That is what Mani is referring to.

Suggest go to our TimePass section for more info.

I'm pretty sure everybody is aware of that, still doesn't make Pakistan safer than India. Not saying India's safe either but this is only a one-off issue which I doubt will last longer once everything's back to normal.
 
I'm pretty sure everybody is aware of that, still doesn't make Pakistan safer than India. Not saying India's safe either but this is only a one-off issue which I doubt will last longer once everything's back to normal.

Use statistics don't just talk for the sake of it.
 
Is India such a perfect place that even a hint of doubt about its security situation brings out these reactions?

Can’t criticise/question india. Otherwise bcci and its fan boys start to throw tantrums. What posters are missing is the context. Mani brought in the India argument because

1. India is a powerhouse in cricket
2. Neighbour
3. People are willing to go there

Anyone watching international media houses know what is happening there in the past few months and still cricketers would travel. Good mani is questioning their hypocrisy.
 
I'm pretty sure everybody is aware of that, still doesn't make Pakistan safer than India. Not saying India's safe either but this is only a one-off issue which I doubt will last longer once everything's back to normal.

While I want to stick to the topic, anyone thinking these current issues are short lived does not know/understand the background of the issues. These issues are not going anytime soon.
 
I'm pretty sure everybody is aware of that, still doesn't make Pakistan safer than India. Not saying India's safe either but this is only a one-off issue which I doubt will last longer once everything's back to normal.

One off issue? You need to research a bit more. While nobody is saying Pak is the safest place on earth but then no country is in today’s world environment let alone India, Srl etc.
 
Yes, Pakistan is much safer than India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka. Infact it's the subcontinent's utopia.

It's a fact that Pakistan isn't safer than the rest of the sub-continent. In this year alone there have been blasts in Lahore, Quetta, and several other places. Stuff like this doesn't happen in other sub-continental nations other than the Easter bombing in Sri Lanka. And if I'm being anti-Pakistan then pretty much 95% of this forum is anti-India/Bangladesh.



Use statistics to back up your claims.

Indian has had more widespread terror attacks while Pakistan's terror attacks have been mostly limited to Balochistan and the FATA areas. Barely anyone lives there anyways.

Also, what do you mean "blasts in Lahore"?
There was only one blast and that was in May.


I'm repeating myself again:

BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS WITH STATISTICS
 
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This shows you the truth.

The 2019 index used the 2018 data to rank the countries. In 2018, we had a very unfortunate terror attack in Balochistan where over 140 people were killed.
This year thankfully no such incident has happened. iirc we've not had an incident this year which has killed more than 20 people. This is something which has not happened since 2001/02.

India's security situation on the other hand is pretty much the same. Due to its vast size, they're finding it hard to fight terrorism.

If this trend continues, Pakistan may overtake india in the 2021 edition or we may even overtake them in the next edition.

Looking at the current political climate and India's situation, Mani's claim was absolutely true. If teams can tour India when such widespread protests are going on, why can't they come to Pakistan??
 

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Why're you always so triggered??
Are you a teenager??

Use statistics to back up your claims.

Indian has had more widespread terror attacks while Pakistan's terror attacks have been mostly limited to Balochistan and the FATA areas. Barely anyone lives there anyways.

Also, what do you mean "blasts in Lahore"?
There was only one blast and that was in May.


I'm repeating myself again:

BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS WITH STATISTICS

https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/destinations/asia/pakistan

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/pakistan-travel-advisory.html

Visit these two websites and compare the other Asians with Pakistan, thanks.
Incase you can't read, I said "blasts in Lahore, Quetta, and several other places." Not just Lahore.
And isn't Balochistan a part of Pakistan? Or just another colony you wanna exploit?

It's funny coming from you to call somebody as a teenager or triggered considering the amount of personal attacks you launch at other forum members because you are....."triggered" apparently.
 
There aren't any UN designated terrorist groups in India , Mr. Mani.

No-one ever specifically targeted an international sports team with machine guns and hand grenades in broad daylight in India as far as I can remember.

:rabada
 
This year thankfully no such incident has happened. iirc we've not had an incident this year which has killed more than 20 people. This is something which has not happened since 2001/02.

False, 13 died in Lahore bombing and 22 (including bomber) in Quetta. Makes it 34 if you exclude the bomber. If you can't come up with facts, atleast don't lie.

https://nation.com.pk/14-Apr-2019/body-parts-of-hazarganji-suicide-bomber-sent-for-dna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Quetta_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Lahore_bombing
https://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/491204-Death-toll-of-Data-Darbar-blast-rises-to-13
 

Do you not understand what "an incident" means?
Why're you adding the two incidents together?

Is 13 >20? Huh?

I knew about the Quetta blast but thought it was less than 20. Alas. So taking that into consideration I revise my claim that we have not had an incident that has killed over 20. I'm gonna say that we have not had an incident which had killed over 30 this year.

You really need to read what someone else has written before you start bashing your keyboard.
 
Are you sure you're a Bangladeshi?
Because you're talking like an indian right now

How are those two links statistics?

Search up what statistics means and then come back to me. Also, look at my last post.

Speaking of stats, India still has an overall lower GTI score than Pakistan in the graph you just presented. Doesn't matter whether one's declining for now, you simply can't predict Pakistan's future. Show me once Pakistan goes below India.
 
Speaking of stats, India still has an overall lower GTI score than Pakistan in the graph you just presented. Doesn't matter whether one's declining for now, you simply can't predict Pakistan's future. Show me once Pakistan goes below India.
2018 data. Not 2019.
In 2019, the killings due to terrorism halved while in India, the Pulwama incident happened.

So the 2020 terrorism Index will be more clear so I'm not actually wrong.
 
Do you not understand what "an incident" means?
Why're you adding the two incidents together?

Is 13 >20? Huh?

I knew about the Quetta blast but thought it was less than 20. Alas. So taking that into consideration I revise my claim that we have not had an incident that has killed over 20. I'm gonna say that we have not had an incident which had killed over 30 this year.

You really need to read what someone else has written before you start bashing your keyboard.

You clearly need to re-read your sentence which says that "no more than 20 have died in an incident". Now you say "I thought it was less than 20", so you admit that you were being subjective instead of relying on facts when it came to the Quetta blast? And you can't change your words now and say that "We have not had an incident which had killed over 30 this year". Either stick to your words or don't speak at all.
 
You clearly need to re-read your sentence which says that "no more than 20 have died in an incident". Now you say "I thought it was less than 20", so you admit that you were being subjective instead of relying on facts when it came to the Quetta blast? And you can't change your words now and say that "We have not had an incident which had killed over 30 this year". Either stick to your words or don't speak at all.

Do you not know what "iirc" means??
Because I clearly wrote that before I made my CLAIM.

Also, what's the big deal? 20 or 22??
What's the difference?
It's not like I said less than 20 and you found a terrorist attack where more than 50 were killed lol

Also, why were you adding up the two incidents when i clearly said in an incident?
 
Is India such a perfect place that even a hint of doubt about its security situation brings out these reactions?

I would request you to compare the travel recommendations for their citizens by countries such as Aus etc.

There is a difference between riots and protests and bomb blasts.

Let me add that I believe that Pakistan is safe enough to host cricket again. However, this statement by Mani is incorrect and will not be taken too kindly by BCCI. If things are not working out for you, you do not need to drag others down.
 
Do you not know what "iirc" means??
Because I clearly wrote that before I made my CLAIM.

Also, what's the big deal? 20 or 22??
What's the difference?
It's not like I said less than 20 and you found a terrorist attack where more than 50 were killed lol

Also, why were you adding up the two incidents when i clearly said in an incident?

"Terrorist attack" and "killed" and "lol" in the same sentence.

"what's the difference?"....

Dear lord !!
 
There are riots happening in India at the moment. You should try and keep abreast of news. That is what Mani is referring to.

Suggest go to our TimePass section for more info.


There is a difference in touring a country like India when there are riots going on vs touring a country like Pakistan. One needs to understand the fundamental difference between the two.

1. The teams touring both India and Pakistan will be given VIP level security.
2. The riots/protests are happening will not affect the touring teams. They will be staying in their hotel with proper security and similarly at ground there will be security.
3. The protesters do not have any weapons. They can't target VIP protected teams.
4. On the other hand, Pakistan's perception of security threat is due to terrorism. The terrorists have weapons and target foreigners. In the past they have attacked a cricket team.
5. In India the ground reality is simple, for these protests no rich and powerful person will be hurt. Only public property will be destroyed, roads blocked and normal people like me face traffic issues. Then our tax money will be spent on rebuilding/restocking public property which was damaged.
6. Pakistan faces issues where the "terrorists" have following:
a) Weapons
b) Known to target foreigners
c) History of attack on cricket team
d) Carry out bomb blasts

The two cannot be compared, in India any visiting cricket team has less danger than normal citizens, like me, because of the security they get and because the protesters do not have means to cause any damage to visiting team, even if in an hypothetical world they actually want to cause damage.

So, Mani's statement and your reasoning and linking his statement to current protests in India are both false equivalents which hold no relevance for "touring cricket teams".
 
"Terrorist attack" and "killed" and "lol" in the same sentence.

"what's the difference?"....

Dear lord !!

You're trying too hard.

Stop clutching at straws

My lol wasn't in reference to the terror attack and you know that so just drop it.
 
I was really happy seeing finally cricket returning to Pak. Time for Pakistanis to rejoice and cherish the moment but even in that PCB found a way to bash and bring India into mud with them, I mean how incredibly small and bitter one has to be to do that!! Mani is acting like conspiracy loving fanboyz, maligning India while making themselves look victims. India has nothing to do with your cricket related misfortunes. You want the same clout, money and reputation as India? Keep your heads down and work,instead of moaning in the press use that energy in marketing. You can't even convince your own people to totally fill the ground to see your heroes and you expect other teams to visit just like that? It is not India that made BCB showing middle finger to PCB, it is their own pettiness and arrogance that started the animosity and BCB decided to reciprocate the same, kudos to them.
 
He is referring to the current situation and probably means the riots and protests going on due to the CAA and there is no denying that there is an unrest in India currently.
I dont get why all the Indians are getting offended. Its not an overall observation, rather specified towards the current situation.
 
You can only get ditched by someone who's higher than you in status.

We call this 'being too big for your boot'

This is precisely the type of arrogance that I am talking about. Banter is one thing but this is clear superiority complex, I am not even a tad bit surprised that this is coming from you.
 
You're trying too hard.

Stop clutching at straws

My lol wasn't in reference to the terror attack and you know that so just drop it.

It's quite apparent who's trying hard clutching at straws and who's not.

Cheers.
 
Are you sure you're a Bangladeshi?
Because you're talking like an indian right now

How are those two links statistics?

Search up what statistics means and then come back to me. Also, look at my last post.

You completely lost.
Those insights and information provided based on statistics.
 
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This shows you the truth.

The 2019 index used the 2018 data to rank the countries. In 2018, we had a very unfortunate terror attack in Balochistan where over 140 people were killed.
This year thankfully no such incident has happened. iirc we've not had an incident this year which has killed more than 20 people. This is something which has not happened since 2001/02.

India's security situation on the other hand is pretty much the same. Due to its vast size, they're finding it hard to fight terrorism.

If this trend continues, Pakistan may overtake india in the 2021 edition or we may even overtake them in the next edition.

Looking at the current political climate and India's situation, Mani's claim was absolutely true. If teams can tour India when such widespread protests are going on, why can't they come to Pakistan??

kudos to you for coming in with real data.. Everything else here is just personal opinions (of general nobodies)
 
He is referring to the current situation and probably means the riots and protests going on due to the CAA and there is no denying that there is an unrest in India currently.
I dont get why all the Indians are getting offended. Its not an overall observation, rather specified towards the current situation.
Here no one getting offended
Few posters not able to differentiate between riots, strikes, protests and bomb blasts killings.
 
India has money, India isn’t safe.

How can a country be safe when biggest minority has to prove loyalty to a country on every waking moment?

Currently India isn’t any safer than any sub-continent countries but only better than Afghanistan in terms of violence if you have different beliefs.
 
View attachment 97975

This shows you the truth.

The 2019 index used the 2018 data to rank the countries. In 2018, we had a very unfortunate terror attack in Balochistan where over 140 people were killed.
This year thankfully no such incident has happened. iirc we've not had an incident this year which has killed more than 20 people. This is something which has not happened since 2001/02.

India's security situation on the other hand is pretty much the same. Due to its vast size, they're finding it hard to fight terrorism.

If this trend continues, Pakistan may overtake india in the 2021 edition or we may even overtake them in the next edition.

Looking at the current political climate and India's situation, Mani's claim was absolutely true. If teams can tour India when such widespread protests are going on, why can't they come to Pakistan??

Can you provide the link for the same to see what stats were used so we all have an idea how its being derived?
 
A pathetic but predictable statement. Ehsan Mani defines incompetency.
 
I am not here to convince you and someone. Told reality. If you want to bring things other than cricket for comparison, I have infinite cases.
 
Mr Mani if you think India is not safe, dont come here.



I hope Mani remembers these statements. Because BCCI will.


You are a clear example of a bully, thats how kids bully other students in school.

Just check electronic media social media print media India is in news for bad reasons right now, Mr Mani is right :)
 
A pathetic but predictable statement. Ehsan Mani defines incompetency.

And you are disagreeing with with what exactly, apart from the fact that its Ehsan Mani?
 
You are a clear example of a bully, thats how kids bully other students in school.

Just check electronic media social media print media India is in news for bad reasons right now, Mr Mani is right :)

USA is in news for good reasons? All countries have internal disagreements. People opposing laws. People supporting laws. Not exclusive to India.
 
You completely lost.
Those insights and information provided based on statistics.

Those are based on perception not statistics.
If they were based on statistics, both countries would be on the same warning level.
 
Is India such a perfect place that even a hint of doubt about its security situation brings out these reactions?

Someone who hasnt even assessed the security situation in India as Pakistan is not scheduled to travel to India is making these statements.

Teams that have actually assessed the situation as they are scheduled to tour seems to be having no issues.
 
Here's the link to the Global Terrorism Index of 2019:

http://visionofhumanity.org/app/uploads/2019/11/GTI-2019web.pdf

Keep in mind that it uses statistics from 2018 NOT 2019. the 2019 statistics will be used in the 2020 Index.

This is what I see, these terrorists attacks as per that study itself has been confined to certain areas of certain states - Chattisgarh( Maoists), Punjab(won't have an issue for 2019 stats) , Assam, Kashmir.

Now India can easily not have matches in those areas and move on with it, also the article states historically our death count per terrorist attack was high but guess what even in those times Aus and other countries toured us, some of the cities have connections with many Aussies for example Steve Waugh with Calcutta.

So India even historically hasn't had issues when the deaths per terrorist attack were higher and even major cities had issue but it didn't stop teams from touring similar to our tourism.

You forget India is a bigger country with so many peaceful areas and major cities compared to Pak so the view is different, now ofcourse your administrators and others can whine and complain about it but the biggest issue is you are next to Afghanistan and also monetary benefits.
 
This is what I see, these terrorists attacks as per that study itself has been confined to certain areas of certain states - Chattisgarh( Maoists), Punjab(won't have an issue for 2019 stats) , Assam, Kashmir.

Now India can easily not have matches in those areas and move on with it, also the article states historically our death count per terrorist attack was high but guess what even in those times Aus and other countries toured us, some of the cities have connections with many Aussies for example Steve Waugh with Calcutta.

So India even historically hasn't had issues when the deaths per terrorist attack were higher and even major cities had issue but it didn't stop teams from touring similar to our tourism.

You forget India is a bigger country with so many peaceful areas and major cities compared to Pak so the view is different, now ofcourse your administrators and others can whine and complain about it but the biggest issue is you are next to Afghanistan and also monetary benefits.

Likewise, we're going to host the matches in areas where terror attacks are not common. Terror attacks in Pakistan are mostly confined to FATA and Balochistan we don't host international matches there anyways.
 
Likewise, we're going to host the matches in areas where terror attacks are not common. Terror attacks in Pakistan are mostly confined to FATA and Balochistan we don't host international matches there anyways.

Yeah but what's the point of mentioning India here, if India is your comparison then maybe PCB should thinking financially as well can PSL pay as much as IPL.

Ehsan Mani and you have directly brought India in this situational comparison so you should be ready for all the comparisons now. Aus never stopped touring India even during those times of GTI being high.
 
Yeah but what's the point of mentioning India here, if India is your comparison then maybe PCB should thinking financially as well can PSL pay as much as IPL.

Ehsan Mani and you have directly brought India in this situational comparison so you should be ready for all the comparisons now. Aus never stopped touring India even during those times of GTI being high.

He compared the two because both countries are very similar in terms of the risk of terrorism.
If teams can tour India, then why can't they tour Pakistan is ultimately what he's trying to say.

If the BCCI wasn't as powerful then some countries may not have even visited india either. that's a fact.

It's all about power and money not about the risk of terrorism
 
He compared the two because both countries are very similar in terms of the risk of terrorism.
If teams can tour India, then why can't they tour Pakistan is ultimately what he's trying to say.

If the BCCI wasn't as powerful then some countries may not have even visited india either. that's a fact.

It's all about power and money not about the risk of terrorism

No risk of terrorism is different from index, India is a larger country so the risk reduces w.r.t area. That index doesn't consider area and population, its a straightforward stat, like GDP do you believe GDP of India is better than UK,Aus,France,Netherlands?
 
There's no point for PCB to make such statements. There's nothing for PCB to fundamentally gain from making statements like these. There's enough data that can independently show that Pakistan is safe to tour. Terrorism is at decades low level. Pakistan is as safe or safer than when all teams used to tour Pakistan regularly. That to me is a compelling argument that they should use and drive home, instead of making comparisons that don't help.

With that being said, I am seeing a few arguments here that are basically non-sense.

1) That India and Pakistan are different because Pakistan experiences terrorism and has had a team attacked. You should take a time-machine and go back 5 or 10 years for your arguments to make sense in 2019. These arguments are out-dated and most irrelevantly in 2019.
2) Using individual incidents from year 2019 to make points about Pakistan. Statistics/data is more important than individual incidents.
3) Using foreign government advisories to make their point. Foreign government advisories are often political. For example, a US government representative straight up said that US advisory for Pakistan is linked to Pakistan fulfilling its FATF obligations. FATF is in not linked to the internal security of a country, it's a completely separate entity. It makes no logical sense why they are linking advisory to FATF. Using independent websites or just plain data combined with common sense is much better.
4) That Australia tours India but not Pakistan. Guys, think with common sense here and follow the money. These players will do nothing to jeopardize IPL contracts. Unless India has a civil war or something to that effect, it's unlikely they will stop touring India.
 
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He compared the two because both countries are very similar in terms of the risk of terrorism.
If teams can tour India, then why can't they tour Pakistan is ultimately what he's trying to say.

If the BCCI wasn't as powerful then some countries may not have even visited india either. that's a fact.

It's all about power and money not about the risk of terrorism

:)) Do you even know what the word fact implies?
 
He compared the two because both countries are very similar in terms of the risk of terrorism.
If teams can tour India, then why can't they tour Pakistan is ultimately what he's trying to say.

If the BCCI wasn't as powerful then some countries may not have even visited india either. that's a fact.

It's all about power and money not about the risk of terrorism

This is more reasonable. If he said Pakistan is "far safer" than India, that makes no sense and is actually not true. It's fair to say, however, that the risk is not significantly different. But again, that's fine for us to say that here on forums. It's not worth it for an official to say it openly. They can make the same point without dragging other countries into it.
 
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No risk of terrorism is different from index, India is a larger country so the risk reduces w.r.t area. That index doesn't consider area and population, its a straightforward stat, like GDP do you believe GDP of India is better than UK,Aus,France,Netherlands?

I understand that but as I've said before that Pakistan's terrorism impact is mostly limited to the FATA areas and Balochistan and look at the population density of Balochistan.

Just because of some terror attacks in Balochistan, Pakistan's whole image gets tarnished.

so the risk of terrorism in MAJOR cities is very similar in both countries.

As if you take out Balochistan out of the equation (because we don't play international cricket there), Pakistan will look very safe.
 
I understand that but as I've said before that Pakistan's terrorism impact is mostly limited to the FATA areas and Balochistan and look at the population density of Balochistan.

Just because of some terror attacks in Balochistan, Pakistan's whole image gets tarnished.

so the risk of terrorism in MAJOR cities is very similar in both countries.

As if you take out Balochistan out of the equation (because we don't play international cricket there), Pakistan will look very safe.

Ok so hoping Ehsan Mani says India's GDP is better than UK and all companies should invest there and we should have a better investment rating than UK.

I'm not arguing about Pakistan's safety but Ehsan Mani's comment on India and your comparison of GTI.
 
:)) Do you even know what the word fact implies?

It's more common-sense. Follow the money. These players will not want their IPL contracts jeopardized. They will continue to tour India short of a civil war or something similar.
 
It's more common-sense. Follow the money. These players will not want their IPL contracts jeopardized. They will continue to tour India short of a civil war or something similar.

That’s what you and me would do in our lives too.
 
That’s what you and me would do in our lives too.

That might be true. But just saying that Australia tours India is not a useful fact in the context of the discussion. However, as I said earlier, there's nothing to gain for the PCB by making such statements.
 
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