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Tri-Nation Under-19s Tournament : Pakistan U19 beat Australia U19 by 109 runs

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Pakistan batting first and off to a flyer, 73/1 after 10 overs.

This start reminds me of the previous pakistani u19 teams. Hopefully they wont collapse again.
 
IAJ said:
Pakistan batting first and off to a flyer, 73/1 after 10 overs.

This start reminds me of the previous pakistani u19 teams. Hopefully they wont collapse again.
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Saw the score and was shocked by the RR then saw that Aus had given 21 extras (14 wides and 6 no balls)...
 
Arfan liaqat right arm fast bowler from sahiwal playing today along with Arsal Sheikh son of chairman cricket committee pcb/senior sports reporter The News Shakeel Sheikh.
 
Belawal2014 said:
Whaaaaat?!? 21 extras in only 10 overs? Should be some record.
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It was more like 14 overs in when I checked it.

Had a feeling something was up when looking at the SR of players, I expected a much higher SRs with the score they had.
 
Pak 200/3 after 36 overs. Should get close to 300 here.
 
HASSAN KHAN AND HASSAN mohsin giving phanta to aus u 19
 
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Australia Under-19s 41/2 (10.0 ov)

Sameen Gul (rm) 5.2 0 14 1
Hasan Mohsin (lbg) 5.0 0 27 1
 
6.3
W Sameen Gul to Jewell, OUT, good length deliver, just outside offstump, tries to cut it, gets an outside edgr, stunning catch by the keeper
CP Jewell c †Umair Masood b Sameen Gul 12 (22b 1x4 0x6) SR: 54.54
 
Who is this Arfan Liaqat? Cricinfo showing he gave away 27 runs in one over.
 
17.6

Arfan Liaqat to Page, SIX, same ball, same shot, same result, picks it over fine leg
17.5

Arfan Liaqat to Page, SIX, short on the legs, picks it and deposits over fine leg
17.4

Arfan Liaqat to Nair, 3 runs, square drives it through point, Page pushes for the third, makes it comfortably
17.3

Arfan Liaqat to Nair, FOUR, short of length, tries to cut it, gets a top edge over the keeper
17.2

Arfan Liaqat to Nair, FOUR, on the legs, drives it crisply through mid on
17.1

Arfan Liaqat to Nair, FOUR, short of length, extra bounce, takes the neck of the bat, into the thirdman boundary

What a rubbish bowler is this????
 
Shafi said:
17.6

Arfan Liaqat to Page, SIX, same ball, same shot, same result, picks it over fine leg
17.5

Arfan Liaqat to Page, SIX, short on the legs, picks it and deposits over fine leg
17.4

Arfan Liaqat to Nair, 3 runs, square drives it through point, Page pushes for the third, makes it comfortably
17.3

Arfan Liaqat to Nair, FOUR, short of length, tries to cut it, gets a top edge over the keeper
17.2

Arfan Liaqat to Nair, FOUR, on the legs, drives it crisply through mid on
17.1

Arfan Liaqat to Nair, FOUR, short of length, extra bounce, takes the neck of the bat, into the thirdman boundary

What a rubbish bowler is this????
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Maybe extra pace... :akhtar
 
33.6
Arsal Sheikh to Nair, OUT, comes down the track and smashes it flat to long oon, Malik hesitates to come forward, puts in a last ditch dive and takes a superb low catch
AJ Nair c & b Arsal Sheikh 106 (89b 13x4 3x6) SR: 119.10
 
Australia Under-19s 171/8 (35.2 ov)

aussies are falling like house of cards
 
Wasn't our U-19 not good this time around ???? Whatever happened to that theory :P
 
Wow this Australia U19 team must really be rubbish if they are losing this badly to Pakistan after losing to New Zealand already. So looks like they had no chance of winning the world cup. Them withdrawing is not a loss to the tournament at all.
 
Ahson8 said:
Still not convinced with the batsmen at all.
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They freaking scored 311 :facepalm: That's a mammoth score considering the level of play that is usually on display at the U-19 level. Plus the bowling unit seems pretty decent as well.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
They freaking scored 311 :facepalm: That's a mammoth score considering the level of play that is usually on display at the U-19 level. Plus the bowling unit seems pretty decent as well.
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They scored 311. In one game. If they can do it regularly, then I'll be convinced.

We are too jazbati. We win one game and all our problems are solved. Just look at the threads after yday's T20 win.
 
Pakistan Under-19s 311 (49.4 ov)
Australia Under-19s 202 (40.4 ov)
Match over
 
Chalo Aap sab ko Bahut Mubbark Ho for the Win. [MENTION=70365]Ahson8[/MENTION] cheer up bro, we have a decent team :D
 
Good win for Pakistan. I am still backing Afghanistan to knock Pakistan out of the world cup.
 
So the so called parchee has taken a hat trick.Pak fans will never accept players with rich background
 
The nepotist took 4 wickets in this match. The last person to do well in such tours despite being a parchee was Junaid Ilyas. Maybe nepotism is not as big a bane as some make it out to be. For others, it acts as a defense mechanism to mask the dearth of talent we are facing at the moment, a commodity that has made us survive over the years despite the lack of organization in our ranks.
 
asfandyar said:
The nepotist took 4 wickets in this match. The last person to do well in such tours despite being a parchee was Junaid Ilyas. Maybe nepotism is not as big a bane as some make it out to be. For others, it acts as a defense mechanism to mask the dearth of talent we are facing at the moment, a commodity that has made us survive over the years despite the lack of organization in our ranks.
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One name: Junaid Zia...look him up :-)

He is the very reason nepotism is such a horrible thing especially in sports!
 
asfandyar said:
The nepotist took 4 wickets in this match. The last person to do well in such tours despite being a parchee was Junaid Ilyas. Maybe nepotism is not as big a bane as some make it out to be. For others, it acts as a defense mechanism to mask the dearth of talent we are facing at the moment, a commodity that has made us survive over the years despite the lack of organization in our ranks.
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Junaid Ilyas is a fine offspinner. Saw him in T20 cup , he has got the guyle.

Let's see how Arsal performs in WC. Search inter district , inter region and inter department under 19 tournaments stats. You won't find him in top 20 anywhere. Yes he can be a case of a brilliant spinner plucked directly from club cricket as an exceptional raw talent.

Similarly Bazid Khan had lack of feet movement in his batting but had average for 45 plus in most parts of his Fc career. He played just as good as his father's like cover drive against pacers despite a short front foot lunge. And even his great-grandfather was a cricket and cricket was in their blood. Pcb hierarchy didn't like ex ceo majid hence Bazid was kept out as much as they could. Preferring Faisal Athars Naveed Latifs Hassan Razas and faisal Iqbals over him , Saeed Anwar jnr , Saeed Bin Nasir and Aamer Sajjad.

Look at Shehzar Mohammad. He is from Mohammad family but look at the number of games he has played for PIA of whom Shoaib Mohammad is an employee and look at his numbers.
 
Gauhar Hafeez making starts every game but not converting. Good sign. Shows technique is good.
 
Monsee said:
One name: Junaid Zia...look him up :-)

He is the very reason nepotism is such a horrible thing especially in sports!
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Yup I am aware of most of the players blamed with nepotism, from Junaid Zia to Imran Farhat, Faisal Iqbal, Shan Masood. The thing to note here is that most of them have decent domestic stats,

Here is Junaid Zia's domestic FC record. He was selected in 2003, and averaged 22 and 26 the years before.

http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Players/35/35668/f_Bowling_by_Season.html

I do believe that nepotism in sports is a horrible thing. But is nepotism in team selection a major cause of our pathetic performances in the internationals?

It is actually the dearth of talent, which in turn is ascribed to a lack of domestic structure and the appointment of incompetent officials to important posts, and the latter is in turn associated with nepotism in the administration. Hence, in my opinion, nepotism in administration is a bigger bane than nepotism in selection. Even if the best playing 11 is selected, there will be only a marginal improvement, unless the domestic structure is revamped.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Junaid Ilyas is a fine offspinner. Saw him in T20 cup , he has got the guyle.

Let's see how Arsal performs in WC. Search inter district , inter region and inter department under 19 tournaments stats. You won't find him in top 20 anywhere. Yes he can be a case of a brilliant spinner plucked directly from club cricket as an exceptional raw talent.

Similarly Bazid Khan had lack of feet movement in his batting but had average for 45 plus in most parts of his Fc career. He played just as good as his father's like cover drive against pacers despite a short front foot lunge. And even his great-grandfather was a cricket and cricket was in their blood. Pcb hierarchy didn't like ex ceo majid hence Bazid was kept out as much as they could. Preferring Faisal Athars Naveed Latifs Hassan Razas and faisal Iqbals over him , Saeed Anwar jnr , Saeed Bin Nasir and Aamer Sajjad.

Look at Shehzar Mohammad. He is from Mohammad family but look at the number of games he has played for PIA of whom Shoaib Mohammad is an employee and look at his numbers.
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The thing is, we often jump to conclusions when judging players having relationships with players and officials. If Chanderpaul's son is selected and fails to perform in internationals despite performing in domestics, we will quickly label him as a sifarshee. Nepotism does exist, but it is not the nepotism in selection that we need to tackle, but the nepotism in administration.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Junaid Ilyas is a fine offspinner. Saw him in T20 cup , he has got the guyle.

Let's see how Arsal performs in WC. Search inter district , inter region and inter department under 19 tournaments stats. You won't find him in top 20 anywhere. Yes he can be a case of a brilliant spinner plucked directly from club cricket as an exceptional raw talent.

Similarly Bazid Khan had lack of feet movement in his batting but had average for 45 plus in most parts of his Fc career. He played just as good as his father's like cover drive against pacers despite a short front foot lunge. And even his great-grandfather was a cricket and cricket was in their blood. Pcb hierarchy didn't like ex ceo majid hence Bazid was kept out as much as they could. Preferring Faisal Athars Naveed Latifs Hassan Razas and faisal Iqbals over him , Saeed Anwar jnr , Saeed Bin Nasir and Aamer Sajjad.

Look at Shehzar Mohammad. He is from Mohammad family but look at the number of games he has played for PIA of whom Shoaib Mohammad is an employee and look at his numbers.
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On a side note, Zeeshan Malik is failing miserably. Another case of Asad Shafiq I presume.
 
A poor player needs one century and few wickets to prove himself and a rich player needs to continue playing well for a year to prove himself.#PakfanLogic
 
ChachaCricket said:
[MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION] Is this your best squad?
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Well Jhye Richardson was the most obvious player missing.

Apart from that I'm not sure. I didn't have time to follow this cohort and this is also the first year where the WA players are young enough that I don't really know much about them. Let alone the other states
 
asfandyar said:
Yup I am aware of most of the players blamed with nepotism, from Junaid Zia to Imran Farhat, Faisal Iqbal, Shan Masood. The thing to note here is that most of them have decent domestic stats,

Here is Junaid Zia's domestic FC record. He was selected in 2003, and averaged 22 and 26 the years before.

http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Players/35/35668/f_Bowling_by_Season.html

I do believe that nepotism in sports is a horrible thing. But is nepotism in team selection a major cause of our pathetic performances in the internationals?

It is actually the dearth of talent, which in turn is ascribed to a lack of domestic structure and the appointment of incompetent officials to important posts, and the latter is in turn associated with nepotism in the administration. Hence, in my opinion, nepotism in administration is a bigger bane than nepotism in selection. Even if the best playing 11 is selected, there will be only a marginal improvement, unless the domestic structure is revamped.
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You have no clue about Junaid Zia, he was the biggest chucker ever (I mean for someone to say he was decent/good with a straight face is like saying I am blind as well) and yet bowled at pie chucking pace! This is the problem with reading stats without knowing what you are talking about

It was one of the biggest joke I have ever seen with Pak cricket...nepotism even with a quality player still means there is a desrving quality player or players that are missing out due to him/her

As for Shan Masood, as bad he sometimes looks (other times he has come up with a gem like that SriLanka test century), I am not aware of a connection for him (as far as I know)
 
Monsee said:
You have no clue about Junaid Zia, he was the biggest chucker ever (I mean for someone to say he was decent/good with a straight face is like saying I am blind as well) and yet bowled at pie chucking pace! This is the problem with reading stats without knowing what you are talking about

It was one of the biggest joke I have ever seen with Pak cricket...nepotism even with a quality player still means there is a desrving quality player or players that are missing out due to him/her

As for Shan Masood, as bad he sometimes looks (other times he has come up with a gem like that SriLanka test century), I am not aware of a connection for him (as far as I know)
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Was he called? No, which marks your observation as subjective. Even if he was a chucker, (I have seen him bowl, he had a huge kink in his arm, but looks can be deceiving, and I can't label someone as a chucker without testing them out first). his father resigned a few weeks after his debut, which throws a cloud of uncertainty over the allegations of nepotism. At the very least, it must have been a case of "If all the eggs look alike, I will pick the one I laid", which in turn doesn't imply that he was picked purely out of nepotism.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/125296.html
 
asfandyar said:
Was he called? No, which marks your observation as subjective. Even if he was a chucker, (I have seen him bowl, he had a huge kink in his arm, but looks can be deceiving, and I can't label someone as a chucker without testing them out first). his father resigned a few weeks after his debut, which throws a cloud of uncertainty over the allegations of nepotism. At the very least, it must have been a case of "If all the eggs look alike, I will pick the one I laid", which in turn doesn't imply that he was picked purely out of nepotism.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/125296.html
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Like I said, reading stats, reports, old articles does not give anyone an iota of idea regarding the ground realities...it was so bad, the nepotism so obvious, that Amir Sohail refused to answer any questions regarding his selection and the criterias followed by merely saying 'This is an unfair question and I refuse to answer it. He is the hardest working criciketer in our domestic scene'.

Really, hardest working cricketer, is that the best reason, no talent and ability required? As for the chucking part, it was such an open seceret that everyone smiled and chuckled about it but because of Tauqir Zia's connections and position, no one dared raise a word.

Tauqir's resignation came because of some other reasons, political I believe, and it was well after he had to withdraw his son from the A team where he was not only selected but made the captain.

Public had seen his ability (or lack there off) in the ODI's against BD, and so much was the hue and cry and public pressure that Tauqir had to come up with a lame excuse like 'Oh he has to sit in his Inter exams and he cannot play'. Really, your brown noser Amir Sohail, your right hand man did not know of that before selecting him, really?

We, as a nation, tend to forget the past and like to believe only good stories and try to forget the painful ones but this is one example where I knew pretty much all the details of!
 
Dios said:
Wow this Australia U19 team must really be rubbish if they are losing this badly to Pakistan after losing to New Zealand already. So looks like they had no chance of winning the world cup. Them withdrawing is not a loss to the tournament at all.
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The Australian domestic system is excellent, they're only going to improve from here.
 
This Shadab Khan guy has been playing well. One for the future:akhtar... Well that's what we say before they die out:jaya
 
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