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Trump bans Syrian refugees and orders to build Great wall on Mexican border! (Excecutive Order!)
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"The order would require tougher vetting of foreigners fleeing persecution and place a monthlong ban on allowing any person into the United States from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia or Yemen."
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Fortunately, Pakistan didn't make the cut.
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He is clever, he knows that refugees will still be able to enter US. He is just trying to please his voters who aren't that clever to begin with and won't dig deep into this. When refugees arrive from those listed countries, they'll rip up their passports, ids and other evidence to claim they are from else where. That is all you need. After seeking asylum they can admit coming from Syria or whatever country that is banned. Only their entry is banned not the ability to file for a refugee status.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional.</p>— Governor Mike Pence (@GovPenceIN) <a href="https://twitter.com/GovPenceIN/status/674249808610066433">December 8, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Mexican president cancels meeting with Trump
Washington (CNN) - Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto on Thursday canceled a meeting with US President Donald Trump that had been set for next week after renewed tensions over Trump's plan to build a wall on the border.
"This morning we have informed the White House that I will not attend the meeting scheduled for next Tuesday with the POTUS," Peña Nieto tweeted.
Earlier Thursday morning, Trump had tweeted that it would be better to skip the meeting if Peña Nieto continued to insist Mexico would not pay for the wall -- something the Mexican leader had said as recently as Wednesday evening.
"If Mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall, then it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting," Trump tweeted and in an earlier tweet he noted the US's trade deficit with Mexico and what he said were the American job losses caused by NAFTA.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">of jobs and companies lost. If Mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall, then it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting.</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/824616644370714627">January 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Asking about the cancellation, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said, "We'll look for a date to schedule something in the future. We will keep the lines of communication open."
On Wednesday night, Peña Nieto had said at that time he did not see a need to cancel -- but he strongly reiterated that he wouldn't fund any border wall.
"Mexico does not believe in walls. I've said time again; Mexico will not pay for any wall," he said in a video statement posted to Twitter and translated by CNN from Spanish.
The back-and-forth between the two leaders began last year during the first days of the Trump campaign when he called some Mexicans entering the US criminals and rapists and tensions lingered throughout the 2016 contest. They escalated over the last 24 hours when Trump took executive action on Wednesday to begin the process of erecting a wall.
The President announced that move while a high-level Mexican delegation was visiting the White House -- the first foreign representatives to come since Trump took office -- for meetings with top officials, including Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and adviser Jared Kushner.
In his video address, Peña Nieto also said he had ordered government agencies to step up protection for immigrants.
"I've asked for the minister of Foreign Relations to re-enforce protection measures to our citizens," he said. He added that the 50 Mexican consulates in the US will be used to defend the rights of immigrants in the country and issued a call to action to legislators and civil organizations to help immigrants.
Peña Nieto closed his message by saying that Mexico offers and expects respect. "Mexico offers its friendship to the people of the United States and expresses its wish to arrive at agreements with its government, deals that will be in favor of Mexico and the Mexicans," he said.
Earlier in the day, Trump signed two executive orders directing construction of a wall on the US-Mexico border, boosting border patrol forces and increasing the number of immigration enforcement officers who carry out deportations.
Meanwhile, the Mexican officials who arrived Wednesday had been expected to lay the groundwork for Peña Nieto's visit next week, which Mexican diplomats had seen as an important opportunity to get past the anti-Mexico rhetoric Trump used during the campaign and a chance to put the US-Mexico relationship back on track.
"There is ... frustration with our government and ourselves that we have not been able to tell the story of this important relationship," a Mexican diplomat told CNN ahead of the visit. "There are a lot of stereotypes of Mexicans in the US, but there are also stereotypes of Americans in Mexico. It is in the interest of both governments to explain what this relationship is and what we can do together."
In a Monday speech, Peña Nieto said his government is prepared to negotiate with the US if Mexico's national sovereignty is respected. He laid out economic integration and respect for the rights of migrants and the money they send home as his nation's key negotiating points.
Trump has suggested some of the $25 billion in annual remittances that migrants return home would be retained to pay for the border wall -- a project Mexico opposes and which Peña Nieto has said Mexico would never pay for.
"Neither confrontation nor submission. Dialogue is the solution," Peña Nieto said Monday.
This won't be the first meeting for the two men. Trump flew to Mexico City during his campaign to meet Peña Nieto and said they discussed a wall Trump has vowed to build on the US southern border, but not his demand that Mexico pay for it -- an assertion the Mexican president later disputed.
"At the start of the conversation with Donald Trump, I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted, after their meeting.
The visit was widely viewed as a public relations disaster for Peña Nieto.
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Washington (CNN) - Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto on Thursday canceled a meeting with US President Donald Trump that had been set for next week after renewed tensions over Trump's plan to build a wall on the border.
"This morning we have informed the White House that I will not attend the meeting scheduled for next Tuesday with the POTUS," Peña Nieto tweeted.
Earlier Thursday morning, Trump had tweeted that it would be better to skip the meeting if Peña Nieto continued to insist Mexico would not pay for the wall -- something the Mexican leader had said as recently as Wednesday evening.
"If Mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall, then it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting," Trump tweeted and in an earlier tweet he noted the US's trade deficit with Mexico and what he said were the American job losses caused by NAFTA.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">of jobs and companies lost. If Mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall, then it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting.</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/824616644370714627">January 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Asking about the cancellation, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said, "We'll look for a date to schedule something in the future. We will keep the lines of communication open."
On Wednesday night, Peña Nieto had said at that time he did not see a need to cancel -- but he strongly reiterated that he wouldn't fund any border wall.
"Mexico does not believe in walls. I've said time again; Mexico will not pay for any wall," he said in a video statement posted to Twitter and translated by CNN from Spanish.
The back-and-forth between the two leaders began last year during the first days of the Trump campaign when he called some Mexicans entering the US criminals and rapists and tensions lingered throughout the 2016 contest. They escalated over the last 24 hours when Trump took executive action on Wednesday to begin the process of erecting a wall.
The President announced that move while a high-level Mexican delegation was visiting the White House -- the first foreign representatives to come since Trump took office -- for meetings with top officials, including Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and adviser Jared Kushner.
In his video address, Peña Nieto also said he had ordered government agencies to step up protection for immigrants.
"I've asked for the minister of Foreign Relations to re-enforce protection measures to our citizens," he said. He added that the 50 Mexican consulates in the US will be used to defend the rights of immigrants in the country and issued a call to action to legislators and civil organizations to help immigrants.
Peña Nieto closed his message by saying that Mexico offers and expects respect. "Mexico offers its friendship to the people of the United States and expresses its wish to arrive at agreements with its government, deals that will be in favor of Mexico and the Mexicans," he said.
Earlier in the day, Trump signed two executive orders directing construction of a wall on the US-Mexico border, boosting border patrol forces and increasing the number of immigration enforcement officers who carry out deportations.
Meanwhile, the Mexican officials who arrived Wednesday had been expected to lay the groundwork for Peña Nieto's visit next week, which Mexican diplomats had seen as an important opportunity to get past the anti-Mexico rhetoric Trump used during the campaign and a chance to put the US-Mexico relationship back on track.
"There is ... frustration with our government and ourselves that we have not been able to tell the story of this important relationship," a Mexican diplomat told CNN ahead of the visit. "There are a lot of stereotypes of Mexicans in the US, but there are also stereotypes of Americans in Mexico. It is in the interest of both governments to explain what this relationship is and what we can do together."
In a Monday speech, Peña Nieto said his government is prepared to negotiate with the US if Mexico's national sovereignty is respected. He laid out economic integration and respect for the rights of migrants and the money they send home as his nation's key negotiating points.
Trump has suggested some of the $25 billion in annual remittances that migrants return home would be retained to pay for the border wall -- a project Mexico opposes and which Peña Nieto has said Mexico would never pay for.
"Neither confrontation nor submission. Dialogue is the solution," Peña Nieto said Monday.
This won't be the first meeting for the two men. Trump flew to Mexico City during his campaign to meet Peña Nieto and said they discussed a wall Trump has vowed to build on the US southern border, but not his demand that Mexico pay for it -- an assertion the Mexican president later disputed.
"At the start of the conversation with Donald Trump, I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted, after their meeting.
The visit was widely viewed as a public relations disaster for Peña Nieto.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/25/polit...o-border-wall0505PMVODtopLink&linkId=33810253
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That's the way off the world I am afraid and always has been. Never has the phase "might is right" been truer then it is today. Arab's are incredibly weak and can be bullied by the entire world especially the only military superpower. Trump seems to be doing exactly what he said he would prior to the elections.
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His country has been bombing and butchering innocent people in these countries, they wont be surprised by this move.
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Not much net impact as USA was originally accepting few thousands Syrian Refugees anyway.
As if they have not been beaten up enough I feel Trump is going to lay in to the Arab's even more. He is a hardcore Zionist supporter of Israel. Syrian's and most Arab's are not welcome in America but they don't need the permission of any Arab to enter any of their war torn countries to do whatever they want. As a kid I used to here Muslim's quote hadith's of how a time will come when Arab's will suffer like no one has in history has before them. We're living those times now. Upon asking why the Imam would say they will be punished by Allah for their arrogance and neglecting Islam that was first given to them.
90-day block on entry to the US from citizens from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Libya and Somalia now in place.
Among those reportedly blocked is Iranian film director Asghar Farhadi, who will not be able to travel to the US for the Oscars, for which he is nominated for best foreign language film.
Among those reportedly blocked is Iranian film director Asghar Farhadi, who will not be able to travel to the US for the Oscars, for which he is nominated for best foreign language film.
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You sure abut it? How would a Syrian refugee would reach usa soil first place.
As people reporting that they are being denied to travel to usa from various countries if they have Iraqi or Iranian passport.
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What happened to jews who lived in arabIA from 500 bc to 600 ad?
It's always might is right. No one spares the weak.
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My friend just told me about it,he banned citizens from Libya? What a joke of a President , [MENTION=39633]Cracket[/MENTION] what u have to say about this?
America bombs the people in Libya and then bans them from their country, WTH am i missing!!
America bombs the people in Libya and then bans them from their country, WTH am i missing!!
The title should be amended. This executive order goes beyond Syrian refugees.
Trump hasn't just prevented newcomers from Syria, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, from entering the US.
Even people from these countries who already live in the US under green cards or on temporary student or employee visas have reportedly been turned away also !
I suppose you think that's good too ?
Trump hasn't just prevented newcomers from Syria, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, from entering the US.
Even people from these countries who already live in the US under green cards or on temporary student or employee visas have reportedly been turned away also !
I suppose you think that's good too ?
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yes indeed..wouldnt want you to be without floors now would we..
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To be fair America doesn't owe these countries anything.
Best to stop whingeing and improve your country rather than always trying to run to the West.
Best to stop whingeing and improve your country rather than always trying to run to the West.
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USA is such a bad example to follow for the world in terms of moral and ethical behaviour. This country doesnt even belong to these European Americans. The Country was invaded by outsiders, then built by immigrants and now they are banning immigrants.
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The thing is that he's sending out a clear message that Muslims can be discriminated against, meaning that even Muslims from countries not on the list will start to see the effects and start being treated differently by visa, customs, immigration and other staff.
Definitely sure, She and people like her will get through
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Good that these talented people serve their own countries instead.
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USA only allowed 15000 syrian refugees (and that after, usa was forced by European to accept refugees).
Good that trump has revealed the true face of USA long held policy.
Good that trump has revealed the true face of USA long held policy.
Uninformed comment. Do you realise people with student visas now can't even go back to their universities and colleges as they're being turned away ? Green card holders have been denied boarding their flights back to the US.
People who want to visit their families in the US are now no longer able to do so. An Iranian filmmaker nominated for an Oscar can't even attend the ceremony ! Or was he a terrorist in disguise ?
I've no problem with increased vetting due to the terrorism threat but a blanket ban is appalling and draconian - Trump has now codified religious discrimination against Muslims and its amazing some Muslims here are defending this. Even if we're to defend this policy - why have Saudi Arabia been exempted ? 15 out of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi. Why not Pakistan given the history of terrorism ? The Times Square bomber and San Bernardino shooters were Pakistani. Why not ban Afghans given the Orlando shooter was of Afghan origin ?
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Green card holder ruling is wrong.
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Policy isn't ideal but the carry on and moaning won't Achieve anything.
We need to improve our own societies and stop radicalism.
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I agree. I hope they take extra measures when you come back into the country too. Vetting.
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A Syrian refugee would move to a country like Lebanon, Saudi or any other Middle Eastern country that is not banned. These refugees generally have money and that is why they are able to fly to the US. Illegal procedure costs high as $75,000 per person, depending on where they are from. After moving there they'll obtain a local passport and fly as a Lebanese Christian or some other minority being oppressed. When they land in US they can either claim they are from Lebanon for example or claim that they are actually from Syria. US can't send them back after they have arrived. Since their life is in danger it would be a Human Rights' violation to send them back.
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Best tweet i found on this topic
"This guy was the son of a Syrian immigrant."
"This guy was the son of a Syrian immigrant."
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Can anyone give any information on how much oil is imported by USA from these countries? Its just a mind boggling order that he has passed as on the basis of what he has done this?
And if threat is the case here why isn't Russia there or even Chinese who are "supposedly" cyber attacking USA sites?
And if threat is the case here why isn't Russia there or even Chinese who are "supposedly" cyber attacking USA sites?
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Does this mean I can't attend a wrestlemania? 
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He is going to make safe zones in Syria as well,so lets get this right he is going to deploy US troops in Syria and then allow no refugees or even travelers or green card holders from there???
Its a 120 day ban while they develop a vetting process. People need to relax.
I like how the left is throwing such a tantrum yet they were quite when Obama was actually bombing the very same countries with the Saudis.
There's already a thorough vetting process for Syrian refugees that takes between 12-18 months with multiple layers of security checks. The US has one of the most intensive vetting procedures for refugees in the West.
A DHS officer conducts in-person interviews with every applicant. Biometric information such as fingerprints are collected and matched against criminal databases. Biographical information such as past visa applications are scrutinised to ensure the applicant's story adds up.
So when Trump says "we don't even know who these people are" and that there's no vetting process he's telling a total lie.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Early this morning, we filed a challenge to President Trump's Muslim ban. <a href="https://t.co/y9I1lWj9C8">https://t.co/y9I1lWj9C8</a></p>— ACLU National (@ACLU) <a href="https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/825368637682900992">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Refugees have been detained at U.S. airports under President Trump's immigration ban, prompting legal action <a href="https://t.co/buRobbwMrR">https://t.co/buRobbwMrR</a></p>— The New York Times (@nytimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/825334620963078146">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Refugees who were aboard flights when Trump signed order closing borders are being detained at US airports. <a href="https://t.co/i3tG9X7KoU">https://t.co/i3tG9X7KoU</a></p>— Jim Roberts (@nycjim) <a href="https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/825332551766142976">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Refugees have been detained at U.S. airports under President Trump's immigration ban, prompting legal action <a href="https://t.co/buRobbwMrR">https://t.co/buRobbwMrR</a></p>— The New York Times (@nytimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/825334620963078146">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Refugees who were aboard flights when Trump signed order closing borders are being detained at US airports. <a href="https://t.co/i3tG9X7KoU">https://t.co/i3tG9X7KoU</a></p>— Jim Roberts (@nycjim) <a href="https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/825332551766142976">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Shameful acts by Trump but its their country and their rules. If the Muslim world had any self respect, they would all cut off diplomatic relations with the USA and align themselves with the Rus and China in all disputes. To really hurt the American economy they would stopping using the Dollar as the reserve currency.
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its not like Pakistani muslims didnt have extra vetting earlier esp when they were coming for the first time
i dont mind extra caution for safety
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Who had no relationship with his father and never knowingly met himBest tweet i found on this topic
"This guy was the son of a Syrian immigrant."
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Two Iraqis were detained at US airports after having worked as interpreters with US forces in Iraq for over 10 years because they were told they could go to the USA after the US forces leave Iraq as it would be too dangerous for them to stay.
Imagine how many Syrians and Iraqis will be willing to work with the US forces currently in Iraq and Syria after this announcement, knowing that they will be abandoned when the Americans leave (again).
This could turn out to be an own goal by Trump.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This was my team. We fought together in Iraq. Guess the two most critical members. Now guess which two are no longer welcome in the U.S. <a href="https://t.co/VD5Hy8arvA">pic.twitter.com/VD5Hy8arvA</a></p>— Brandon Friedman (@BFriedmanDC) <a href="https://twitter.com/BFriedmanDC/status/825183272690974720">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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True but that doesn't change the fact that a syrian was his biological father and thn there are many other similar stories. I am not against whatever Trump is doing because it's their country their rules so Trump should do whatever he think is better for his country but i want these slave arab leaders to show some self respect and also UN and US both should stop lecturing other's about human rights and all that topi drama.
This is an excellent point...
Considering that the US is currently at war with 4 of the countries listed...indeed how can they build collaboration when moves like this essentially tarnish everyone with the same brush...and as you have rightly pointed out how they can offer incentives now?...
Really a stupid move on all accounts...
Billy Bragg nails it
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some perspective on the threat that Americans face from Muslims in the US. Maybe Trump should ban something else? <a href="https://t.co/4JoxEsUjwQ">pic.twitter.com/4JoxEsUjwQ</a></p>— Billy Bragg (@billybragg) <a href="https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/825424874155839488">28 January 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some perspective on the threat that Americans face from Muslims in the US. Maybe Trump should ban something else? <a href="https://t.co/4JoxEsUjwQ">pic.twitter.com/4JoxEsUjwQ</a></p>— Billy Bragg (@billybragg) <a href="https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/825424874155839488">28 January 2017</a></blockquote>
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Some disgusting comments, especially from right wing modi fanatic like pure evil.
Learn some facts, an American will be 57 times more likely shot by a gun than killed by terrorism.
Trump is not going to achieve anything by banning people in such discriminate ways. This is a move just to appease his fringe hardcore base, and his delusional ego.
Glad the majority of British MPs are condemning this bigot.
Learn some facts, an American will be 57 times more likely shot by a gun than killed by terrorism.
Trump is not going to achieve anything by banning people in such discriminate ways. This is a move just to appease his fringe hardcore base, and his delusional ego.
Glad the majority of British MPs are condemning this bigot.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">. <a href="https://twitter.com/theresa_may">@theresa_may</a> hand in hand with the man who banned <a href="https://twitter.com/Mo_Farah">@Mo_Farah</a> & Tory MP <a href="https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi">@nadhimzahawi</a>. Yet she remains silent. <a href="https://t.co/5BhkdWW2pL">pic.twitter.com/5BhkdWW2pL</a></p>— Jeremy Corbyn MP (@jeremycorbyn) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/825466664036757504">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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It's excluding childern of muslim immigrants.
I can give so many recent examples where muslim immigrants of their childern involved in terrorist activities.
So your mentioned stats are based on dishonesty.
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Trump is the grandson of a German and the husband of a Slovenian
I don't understand your point
Actually the biggest terror attack on US soil was committed by nationals from a country the US haven't banned immigration from...
What terrorism is there to speak of in the US?...maybe you can bring up Rizwan Farook, Omar Mateen...who were US born...
The Boston guys were actual immigrants...and that's the only significant example and they were from a country not banned too...
And other than these what else is there?...and how many people Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen have committed terrorist acts on US soil?...
The statistics are apt really...
What's dishonest is the scaremongering by Trump...
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Good? Do you know that NO terrorist attrocities have been commited by ppl on Donald Thug's banned list? He will never ban Saudis due to business purposes. I give him 2yrs in office max. The guy is a joke.
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I do not see stats mentioning 7 banned countries. So your point is irrelevant as you focused on 7 countries.
I am not defending trump or Obama, my point is that stats should have covered childern of muslim immigrants to have a better understanding.
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In the Jewish mystical tradition of Kabbalah, the Lurianic school to which most Orthodox Jews subscribe since centuries and until today, it's said that the messianic era will only be heralded through trials and tribulations, "like a mother births after months of suffering" (the Freemasons were inspired by such idea when they said Ordo ab chao, order comes from chaos). You could say Trump is playing that role perfectly.
I hope the US ban all Islamic immigration and deports all of its citizens belonging to the religion, so perhaps the Muslims will get their dignity back and act with the US miscreants as they should have from day one, instead of contemplating them decimating whole States and droning children and weddings.
I hope the US ban all Islamic immigration and deports all of its citizens belonging to the religion, so perhaps the Muslims will get their dignity back and act with the US miscreants as they should have from day one, instead of contemplating them decimating whole States and droning children and weddings.
That's the point there are NO examples of terrorism committed by people from the aforementioned 7 countries...
Omar Mateen was the son of an Afghan...that's like the only example...
But there are 15 Saudis, 2 Emiratis, an Egyptian, a Lebanese and 2 Kyrgzyz terrorists...not that i'm arguing for people from these countries to be banned...but the fact is the terror angle is a false one...because there is no evidence that people from these countries have committed terror attacks in the US...
That said there is something to be said for children of Muslim immigrants being more likely to commit terror...so far we have seen in Europe that it hasnt been refugees but second generation immigrants...
So one has to ask then what purpose this move serves in term of helping to integrate second generation Muslims?...there will be American Muslims who will be feeling the heat now...and actions like Trumps run the risk of damaging integration...and actually assist terror organisations who feed off of disenfranchisement...actions like this provide a vacuum...
Actions like this will make the US a less safe place...
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash">#BREAKING</a> Theresa May does "not agree" with Donald Trump's refugee ban and will make representations if it hits Britons, Downing Street said <a href="https://t.co/SLNMqlBL63">pic.twitter.com/SLNMqlBL63</a></p>— Press Association (@PA) <a href="https://twitter.com/PA/status/825497697843085312">January 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Repeat: stats were not about 7 banned countries and my objection was about stats. So you addressing a totally different issue.
Now, let me tackle your point.
1- There are only 16000 Syrian refugee present in Usa, mostly women and childern.
2- as per agreement with Germany, france, etc, USA need to accept 85000.
- As number of refugees are already very low, and they have arrived quite recently so you would not expect any attack from them.
- Recent attacks in Europe clearly show the risks associated with asylum seekers and refugees.
Lastly, this list is not final.
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http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14427086/federal-court-halts-trumps-immigration-ban
Federal court halts Trump’s immigration ban
Federal court halts Trump’s immigration ban
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This isn't a refugee ban anymore, they're banning Greencard holders and anybody with a valid American visa from entering the country if their country of origin is in the list. This is systematic discrimination.
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The ruling didn't halt the ban, it only covers those two cases. Read the article bruh.
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Discrimination against extremists is good and needed. Just because they're greencard holders does not mean they can't be terrorists.
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What an insane post!! Please tell me this was sarcasm.
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ACLU protesting against this is good,people don't realize but if Americans have this they also have some of the most active protesters world wide who are much more rational in their thinking.
Kudos to them as i wouldn't see such things happen in large numbers incase the ban happened in Asian countries.
Kudos to them as i wouldn't see such things happen in large numbers incase the ban happened in Asian countries.
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You do see the irony, right?...
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Trump really means business. He is working extremely fast. This is just the beginning.
A presidency that will be debated for hundreds of years into the future I imagine. Can't see it lasting 4 years!!
A presidency that will be debated for hundreds of years into the future I imagine. Can't see it lasting 4 years!!
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But has no effect on those with valid visas and green card holders being prevented from boarding flights to the USA. This court order only covers around 200 people at most.
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He's overestimating his power and underestimating minorities.
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It feels like he is playing God a bit and seeing how much he can get away with before he gets reined in.
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He will never be reigned in, I think he'll quit if he can't get his way. Pence is even worse then him, so things wouldn't be any better.
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You should read the linked article in the other thread.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Mind-of-Donald-Trump-A-Psychologist-analyzes
Its possible that Trump is following through with his promises knowing that they will fail...
He can argue that hes being held back by the establishment...and his supporters will see him as the courageous president who was restricted by the system to do what they want...
He can argue that hes being held back by the establishment...and his supporters will see him as the courageous president who was restricted by the system to do what they want...
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mayor of London Sadiq Khan says "President Trump's ban on refugees and immigrants from certain countries is shameful and cruel"</p>— Sky News Newsdesk (@SkyNewsBreak) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/825645347221491712">January 29, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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