Two new balls in Tests will curb ball-tampering : Sachin Tendulkar

[Hitman]

Sachin Tendulkar, a definite candidate for cricket’s GOAT, recommended that having two new balls (one from each end every 80 overs) would be the way to take test cricket forward and make sure bowlers are not at a disadvantage.

The radical suggestion came at the Hindustan Times-Mint Asia Leadership Summit in Singapore where Tendulkar was speaking.

Most changes in the game such as better bats and smaller boundaries have benefited batsmen, Tendulkar explained. The two-new-balls approach would make it fairer, he added.

The former Indian player, who has demigod status in India and other cricketing nations, said he thinks instances of ball tampering (which he referred to as working on the ball) happen because bowlers try to get some of that advantage between the time the new ball loses its shine and starts reverse swinging (which is typically between the 25th and the 55th overs) . Having two balls, with the umpires at either end controlling them, would prevent this from happening, Tendulkar said.

Tendulkar also had a similar suggestion on improving One Day Internationals, which are squeezed between tests and T20s. He said these could have four quarters, with teams alternating innings — a move that could render redundant the toss advantage and the dew factor (which disadvantages teams bowling second in day night games).

https://www.hindustantimes.com/sing...aid-bowlers/story-3LDTMwyP7BUn0c16zFL3ML.html

 

[Hitman]

Pretty rich coming from Sachin on curbing ball tampering

See, I'm his biggest fan. But not a blind fan.

 

[babajee]

Nah I don’t like that 4 quarters idea for ODIs. They are perfect as they are.

 

[Hitman]

Nah I don’t like that 4 quarters idea for ODIs. They are perfect as they are.

Same here, I don't like that idea. Sachin said the same thing few years before and I didn't like it back then either.

 

[jagatk]

2 new balls is a pretty good idea especially where the kookaburra is concerned. That ball goes soft by 60-65 over most of the time. Would actually help retain swing longer while still being able to get reverse later.

 

[jagatk]

Nah I don’t like that 4 quarters idea for ODIs. They are perfect as they are.

Absolutely agree, it is a dumb idea.

 

[Slog]

Same here, I don't like that idea. Sachin said the same thing few years before and I didn't like it back then either.

He's said this three times and no one liked the idea so dunno why he keeps repeating it

Id rather see ODIs being scrapped altogether than this abomination

 

[babajee]

I think [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] likes that idea

 

[Majid Khan]

Why not get rid of the seam on the ball too, change it from leather to an artificial plastic material which does swing one way or the other - then there is no need left for anyone to do anything to the ball with sweat or spit, or finger nails, just pick it up, run in and roll your arm over.

 

[Rishta Aunty]

Please god no. Also rich coming from Tendulkar. You look at his incident and Dravid's and it was clear that the former was worse than the latter.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I think [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] likes that idea

4 innings for an odi is a great idea.

People are too close minded.

If a pitch is a patta, you wont know whether we hav a contest or not until the other team bats for atleast 10 overs.

That's like 4.5 hours from the time a game starts. ODIs are already getting boring and this is only going to get worse.

4 inning odis will help you know whether a game is going to be competitive or not much sooner which will help sustain interest.

Moreover, teams won't hav the momentum to keep piling on runs for 50 overs and then bash the opposition with scoreboard pressure.

4 innings of 25 overs... Or 20 overs may work out very well.

Will reduce luck factor, allow teams to make a comeback and the focus will be on both skills and strategy.

 

[RainMan_]

What a rubbish idea.

This is why i dislike Sachicn

He lacks creativity

 

[WildSwing]

4 innings for an odi is a great idea.

People are too close minded.

If a pitch is a patta, you wont know whether we hav a contest or not until the other team bats for atleast 10 overs.

That's like 4.5 hours from the time a game starts. ODIs are already getting boring and this is only going to get worse.

4 inning odis will help you know whether a game is going to be competitive or not much sooner which will help sustain interest.

Moreover, teams won't hav the momentum to keep piling on runs for 50 overs and then bash the opposition with scoreboard pressure.

4 innings of 25 overs... Or 20 overs may work out very well.

Will reduce luck factor, allow teams to make a comeback and the focus will be on both skills and strategy.

Agree, it is a great idea, people are too simple minded to understand the genius, odis will become more interesting and more competitive with this format, it takes out the dew factor as well

 

[Convict]

This is stupid.
Two new balls will if anything enhance ball tampering.

 

[Convict]

Australia tried out the two innings per team one dayers in domestic cricket like half a decade back and it was pretty bad.

 

[Rana]

Two new balls will probably result in Test matches finishing in 3 full days.

 

[WildSwing]

Two new balls will if anything enhance ball tampering.

How? You'll have to tamper two balls, it will take more time, the balls will also be newer for longer periods, how will it enhance ball tampering, we've already seen the positive effect of two new balls, it has made ball tampering in odis almost obsolete

 

[RainMan_]

Tendulkar Used to come at 4 in tests.

I wonder why

 

[barah_admi]

Good idea, why even have bowlers? Lets just set up bowling machines with 10 yard boundaries.

 

[WildSwing]

The only downside that I see to this idea is that spinners might become less effective

 

[Savage]

Tbh I've always liked the idea of having 4 quarters in ODIs.It somewhat negates the toss advantage and chances of better team winning will only increase.

 

[Savage]

Tbh I've always liked the idea of having 4 quarters in ODIs.It somewhat negates the toss advantage and chances of better team winning will only increase.

Especially for D/N ODIs where Dew plays a major role.

 

[Mirpur express]

ST was a great bat but not the greatest of thinkers, obviously very patient (ton tons) but not a thinking cricketer otherwise he would’ve been the president of bcci long ago.

 

[Ahson8]

Rubbish. Tendulkar's ideas are all terrible. Stick to watching hockey

 

[R3verse Swing]

I laughed out loud at the thread title seeing Tendulkar recommend changes to the game, but then the following line in reference to ball tampering was a beauty!

The radical suggestion came at the Hindustan Times-Mint Asia Leadership Summit in Singapore where Tendulkar was speaking.

Tendulkar should be the last person on Earth to suggest methods to curb ball tampering. Also how on earth does he think having two balls in a Test will help the bowler out?

 

[Convict]

How? You'll have to tamper two balls, it will take more time, the balls will also be newer for longer periods, how will it enhance ball tampering, we've already seen the positive effect of two new balls, it has made ball tampering in odis almost obsolete

Neither ball will do anything after the 30th over and neither will deteriorate enough naturally to get reverse swing/help the spinners.

 

[WildSwing]

Neither ball will do anything after the 30th over and neither will deteriorate enough naturally to get reverse swing/help the spinners.

That all I agree with, but how will it enhance ball tampering as you initially stated?

 

[Syed1]

Ironic coming from Sachin
#Ball Tamperer

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

I like the name of the summit 'Mint'.

 

[BreadPakoda]

I like the name of the summit 'Mint'.

Tbh Mint is one of the better newspapers in India.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Tbh Mint is one of the better newspapers in India.

I just found it a bit appropriate

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/cric...wlers-use-mints-to-shine-the-ball-in-cricket/

 

[rhony]

Rubbish. Tendulkar's ideas are all terrible. Stick to watching hockey

Lol. That really made me chuckle. It was so blatant from Sachin that day. He was on the ground IIRC.

Anyway, I think ODIs should be 2 innings of T20 for each team. Team batting first in the first innings will have to chase in the 2nd innings. The ebbs and flows of the game will be much interesting with conditions and toss not impacting the game.

As far as tests go, two new balls is a terrible idea. We need reverse swing. We absolutely do. There should be a certain degree of tampering allowed under Umpire's supervision. They speak as if all it requires is a scuffed up ball to reverse swing. One needs great skills and pace to be able to reverse swing.

 

[Convict]

That all I agree with, but how will it enhance ball tampering as you initially stated?

Because teams will want a ball that does something after 30 overs and they will want to be able to get reverse swing and spin.
So they will have to ball tamper.

 

[R3verse Swing]

As far as tests go, two new balls is a terrible idea. We need reverse swing. We absolutely do. There should be a certain degree of tampering allowed under Umpire's supervision. They speak as if all it requires is a scuffed up ball to reverse swing. One needs great skills and pace to be able to reverse swing.

For once I agree with you.

There is a case to legalize ball tampering legit (i.e no foreign substance). Throwing the ball on the bounce etc.

Even if the ball is rough on one side, it still takes skill to pull off reverse swing.

Capable batsmen shouldn't be afraid. The game is tilted towards batsmen as it is.

 

[Proactive_]

And next he will be lecturing on how to improve attendance in the Parliament. This guy

 

[Snow]

SAchin Ideas to improve the game are always lame. He should stick to staying at home and enjoy life.

 

[Kashmirilion]

What a stupid idea. On slow flat tracks it will kill any chance bowlers had of getting wickets. What is wrong with odi format we have?? It's stupid making wholesale changes. Tring to fix what's not broke.

 

[WengerOut]

This guy was great as a player but rubbish otherwise.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Of course the other part of me is convinced that Tendulkar is trying to protect and preserve his Test/ODI stats by recommending such nonsense.

 

[WildSwing]

Because teams will want a ball that does something after 30 overs and they will want to be able to get reverse swing and spin.
So they will have to ball tamper.

That didn't happen in odis, and it would be very difficult to tamper with 2 balls and get away with it, 2 new balls won't enhance ball tampering

 

[UN talkz]

SAchin Ideas to improve the game are always lame. He should stick to staying at home and enjoy life.

And watch Hockey

 

[Hasan123]

2 new balls will reduce the chances of reverse swing. I doubt ball tampering will be stopped.

 

[Pete Rose]

I am not hot on this. Test cricket is not just about surviving the new ball. Bowling and batting to the old ball is also a skill. Everyone knows what tampering is: the sufficient laws are fine to deal with it.

 

[Pete Rose]

4 innings for an odi is a great idea.

People are too close minded.

If a pitch is a patta, you wont know whether we hav a contest or not until the other team bats for atleast 10 overs.

That's like 4.5 hours from the time a game starts. ODIs are already getting boring and this is only going to get worse.

4 inning odis will help you know whether a game is going to be competitive or not much sooner which will help sustain interest.

Moreover, teams won't hav the momentum to keep piling on runs for 50 overs and then bash the opposition with scoreboard pressure.

4 innings of 25 overs... Or 20 overs may work out very well.

Will reduce luck factor, allow teams to make a comeback and the focus will be on both skills and strategy.

I would like this to replace test cricket eventually, but for that to happen, they need to make sure the ball reverses withing 15 overs.

 

[HuzaifaE]

That ODI quartering suggestion sounds like something straight from the comments section of Facebook/YouTube. Horrendous idea...

 

[Joseph Gomes]

The irony lol. Only reason Tendu is not a declared cheat is due to BCCI. He was caught red handed. Dude should keep his mouth shut to protect his legacy.