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Iran confirms supreme leader Khamenei is dead after US, Israeli attacks [Update@ Post 563]

How will Iran react to the attack from Israel?

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Dubai has no base not sure what reason Iran is targeting buildings up there.. ppl ve started posting
 
sweep_shot said:
Khilafah will happen in sha Allah. It's in the end time prophecy.

Anyone who believes in Islam has to believe in this.

It may not seem that way now but it is in the prophecy.

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WHY? There is no such thing mentioned in Quran. I never get sucked into these debates over belief, but Muslims need to to stop making such statements as, "Anyone who believes in Islam has to believe in this" IF it is not mentioned in Quran.
 
CricVet said:
WHY? There is no such thing mentioned in Quran. I never get sucked into these debates over belief, but Muslims need to to stop making such statements as, "Anyone who believes in Islam has to believe in this" IF it is not mentioned in Quran, then that has to do with history, not Islam.
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Islam also has Hadiths. Not just Quran.

This is from the Hadith.
 
Kriketer said:
Says the defender of regime that has bombed 20,000 children under rubble, many thousands severely injured and millions of children traumatised for life. Israel is a vicious genocidal state, goes to any extent to destroy others
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Again who started it .Hamas on Oct 7
 
Here is the reference for return of khilafah:

Hudhayfah
may Allaah be pleased with him
narrated that the Prophet
sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention )
said: "Prophethood (meaning himself) will remain among you for as long as Allaah wills it to remain, then Allaah will lift it whenever he wills to lift it. Then there will be a Caliphate that follows the guidance of Prophethood, it will remain among you for as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then, He will lift it whenever He wills to lift it. Afterwards, there will be an oppressive hereditary rule and it will remain with you for as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then He will lift it whenever He wills to lift it. Then, there will be a tyrannical rule and it will remain for as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then, Allaah will lift it whenever He wills to lift it. Then, there will be a Caliphate that follows the guidance of Prophethood." Then, Hudhayfah
may Allaah be pleased with him
said, "Then the Prophet
sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention )
kept silent." [Ahmad]

Source: https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/1...hate-that-follows-the-guidance-of-prophethood.
 
Major said:
How is it far better? There is an economic crises in iran, and their govt is known to be more corrupt than pakistani govt.

Even irani peoplr that i know want the regime removed and wanted rezas regime back
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I've met a few Iranian Shah fans, the ones I met were basically pork eating atheists. If they were representative of Iran I think it would look a lot different.
 
sweep_shot said:
Here is the reference for return of khilafah:

Hudhayfah
may Allaah be pleased with him
narrated that the Prophet
sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention )
said: "Prophethood (meaning himself) will remain among you for as long as Allaah wills it to remain, then Allaah will lift it whenever he wills to lift it. Then there will be a Caliphate that follows the guidance of Prophethood, it will remain among you for as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then, He will lift it whenever He wills to lift it. Afterwards, there will be an oppressive hereditary rule and it will remain with you for as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then He will lift it whenever He wills to lift it. Then, there will be a tyrannical rule and it will remain for as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then, Allaah will lift it whenever He wills to lift it. Then, there will be a Caliphate that follows the guidance of Prophethood." Then, Hudhayfah
may Allaah be pleased with him
said, "Then the Prophet
sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention )
kept silent." [Ahmad]

Source: https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/1...hate-that-follows-the-guidance-of-prophethood.
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We dont know when end of times will occur. We could be far away from that and it certainly wont be in our lifetime.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I've met a few Iranian Shah fans, the ones I met were basically pork eating atheists. If they were representative of Iran I think it would look a lot different.
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I guess Iran have both seculars and religious folks. It is 50-50 based on what I have seen.

I once went to a dentistry clinic. One of the doctors was an Iranian. He gave me salam. He seemed religious.

I also met another Iranian driving instructor who was a non-Muslim. I have also seen Iranians who were very westernized.

It seems 50-50 there.
 
BDfanforever said:
We dont know when end of times will occur. We could be far away from that and it certainly wont be in our lifetime.
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Yeah. That is correct. Only Allah (SWT) knows when the end time will happen.

Anyway, these are prophecies. Mainstream Islam considers these prophecies from sahih hadiths as valid.
 
sweep_shot said:
I guess Iran have both seculars and religious folks. It is 50-50 based on what I have seen.

I once went to a dentistry clinic. One of the doctors was an Iranian. He gave me salam. He seemed religious.

I also met another Iranian driving instructor who was a non-Muslim.
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No you can be religious, but dont want the Mullah's to run the show either. Same as how Bangladeshi are majority Muslims, but majority dont want to be governed by Jamaat.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Nobody with a brain should take your posts seriously
:kp


The building hit in Bahrain was housing US troops. Many drones or missiles shot down often hit civilian positions.
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Iran can do zilch to Israel or USA. They are just trying to rage kill Arab civilians and disrupt oil to force Israel and us to back off under international pressure or get ground troops in
 
straighttalk said:
Again who started it .Hamas on Oct 7
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Wouldn't even pinpoint Israel started all throughout decades.... But weren't you just mentioning a country like Israel doesn't bomb civilians and children? and how casually you quickly resorted to "who started it" the moment gave you a fact check about that genocidal terror state bombing thousands of children.

Just becsuse they are your genocidal fathers in the fatherland, doesn't mean they are innocent
 
BDfanforever said:
No you can be religious, but dont want the Mullah's to run the show either. Same as how Bangladeshi are majority Muslims, but majority dont want to be governed by Jamaat.
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Nothing wrong with religious folks running things as long as they are not corrupt or mix religion with tribalism.

I personally would've preferred NCP or Jamaat over corrupt BNP.

As for Iran, I think it is 50-50 there. I have seen supports for government but also oppositions to government.
 
straighttalk said:
Iran can do zilch to Israel or USA. They are just trying to rage kill Arab civilians and disrupt oil to force Israel and us to back off under international pressure or get ground troops in
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If a country like Vietnam could cause so much damage, what do you think will happen if ground troops gets in modern warefare?
 
Kriketer said:
Wouldn't even pinpoint Israel started all throughout decades.... But weren't you just mentioning a country like Israel doesn't bomb civilians and children? and how casually you quickly resorted to "who started it" the moment gave you a fact check about that genocidal terror state bombing thousands of children.

Just becsuse they are your genocidal fathers in the fatherland, doesn't mean they are innocent
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I think you guys have a victim hoo..your kill people in the name of Islam and hide among children and women. Then when the army of the victim hits back and they will always hit harder ..you cry victim to recruit the next suicide bomber. Jerusalem has multiple claimants including Jews Christians and Muslims. Accept Israel and stay peacefully but no you have to attack threaten and bomb them ..what was Hamas thinking when they attacked Israel and butchured 1400 people ..Israel will stand back and applaud...no they wiped Hamas and hezbollah and then they will take care of Iran and after that Islamic nato
 
sweep_shot said:
Nothing wrong with religious folks running things as long as they are not corrupt or mix religion with tribalism.

I personally would've preferred NCP or Jamaat over corrupt BNP.

As for Iran, I think it is 50-50 there. I have seen supports for government but also oppositions to government.
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Most Bangladeshi wants separation of State and Religion. We dont Bangldesh becoming a haven for ISIS.
 
BDfanforever said:
Most Bangladeshi wants separation of State and Religion. We dont Bangldesh becoming a haven for ISIS.
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Jamaat is not ISIS. Jamaat is a political party.

I think most Bangladeshis prefer a religious conservative status quo. Heartland of Bangladesh is socially conservative and religiously conservative.

Anyway, we are going off-topic.
 
BDfanforever said:
Most Bangladeshi wants separation of State and Religion. We dont Bangldesh becoming a haven for ISIS.
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Jamaat coming to power will be end of Bangaldesh as a country...all economy women rights freedom bengaliness will be lost and with isis pak and Jamaat..a war with India is inevitable ..glad secular Bangladeshi made the right choice
 
straighttalk said:
I think you guys have a victim hoo..your kill people in the name of Islam and hide among children and women. Then when the army of the victim hits back and they will always hit harder ..you cry victim to recruit the next suicide bomber. Jerusalem has multiple claimants including Jews Christians and Muslims. Accept Israel and stay peacefully but no you have to attack threaten and bomb them ..what was Hamas thinking when they attacked Israel and butchured 1400 people ..Israel will stand back and applaud...no they wiped Hamas and hezbollah and then they will take care of Iran and after that Islamic nato
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All of your points are mute, considering Isr killed over 100k+ people. 🤫
 
straighttalk said:
I think you guys have a victim hoo..your kill people in the name of Islam and hide among children and women. Then when the army of the victim hits back and they will always hit harder ..you cry victim to recruit the next suicide bomber. Jerusalem has multiple claimants including Jews Christians and Muslims. Accept Israel and stay peacefully but no you have to attack threaten and bomb them ..what was Hamas thinking when they attacked Israel and butchured 1400 people ..Israel will stand back and applaud...no they wiped Hamas and hezbollah and then they will take care of Iran and after that Islamic nato
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Yep as expected..... genocidal Sanghis

From Israel won't bomb 24 children at school to fact checking of those Nazis bombing 20,000in just 2 years...and sanghi quickly resorting to defending their criminal Fathers
 

Movement in US Congress for vote on limiting president’s authority over Iran strikes​


There is a movement in Congress to bring all the lawmakers back to Washington, if they are in their districts, and for there to be a vote to limit the president’s authority with respect to these Iran strikes.

What we’re hearing is that many Democrats are saying this is an illegal and unconstitutional movement and that Donald Trump exaggerated the risks to the United States by Iran and that ordinary Americans don’t want another “endless war”.

Another Democrat has said that Congress must convene at once to put a stop to this.

What are they referring to?

The US president, under the US constitution, doesn’t have the power to declare war – it’s the US Congress. There is the War Powers Resolution from 1973 that does allow the president to take action, but only if he briefs Congress and the Congress must be updated and troops withdrawn within 60 days if that does not occur.

If the US is under attack, the president does has executive authority. But again, critics are saying that there was no case made for why the US was under a threat.

Source: Al-Jazeera (https://aje.news/p4rw7y?update=4348227).
 
Qatar says 8 injured as 44 missiles, 8 drones target country

At least eight people were injured after Qatar was targeted by 44 missiles and 8 drones so far during Iranian attacks, a diplomat briefed on the attacks told ABC News.
:kp
 
Kriketer said:
Yep as expected..... genocidal Sanghis

From Israel won't bomb 24 children at school to fact checking of those Nazis bombing 20,000in just 2 years...and sanghi quickly resorting to defending their criminal Fathers
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Let me break it down for a jehadi.
The same country can hit terrorists hiding among children after they unilaterally attack their country....collateral damage with full blame on Hamas

Same country should not attack another country and kill girls in a school for no military reason. I am against it

Both can be true.
 
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US working to 'dismantle the Iranian regime’s security apparatus,' CENTCOM says

The U.S. and partners began the joint attack on Iran at 1:15 am ET to "dismantle the Iranian regime’s security apparatus, prioritizing locations that posed an imminent threat," U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) said in its first statement since the attacks on Iran began.

The attack targets include "Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps command and control facilities, Iranian air defense capabilities, missile and drone launch sites, and military airfields," CENTCOM said in its statement.

“The President ordered bold action, and our brave Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, Guardians, and Coast Guardsmen are answering the call,” CENTCOM Commander Admiral Brad Cooper said in the statement.

"There have been no reports of American fatalities or combat-related injuries," and "damage to U.S. installations was minimal and has not impacted operations," according to CENTCOM.

abcnews.com

US working to 'dismantle the Iranian regime’s security apparatus,' CENTCOM says

abcnews.com abcnews.com
 

US regime change attempts in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya proved ‘disastrous’​


Americans tried three regime changes in recent decades: in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya.

In Iraq, there was the deployment of US troops on the ground after a major bombing. A serious regime change took place that turned truly disastrous, costing trillions of dollars and thousands of US soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths.

In Afghanistan, it was the same, but with a UN Security Council (UNSC) resolution, they even trained the Afghan army. But after 20 years, they withdrew, the Taliban took over and the regime change attempt was a disaster.

In Libya, there was a UNSC resolution of responsibility to protect – so not exactly a regime change – but they tended to regime change without American boots on the ground. The Americans, along with the Europeans, were able to change the Gaddafi regime.

The result? Disastrous. Libya continues to struggle with major divisions, chaos and violence.

So we have three attempts by the US within two decades that prove that regime change is more or less an utter failure.

Source: https://aje.news/p4rw7y?update=4347849.
 
sweep_shot said:

US regime change attempts in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya proved ‘disastrous’​


Americans tried three regime changes in recent decades: in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya.

In Iraq, there was the deployment of US troops on the ground after a major bombing. A serious regime change took place that turned truly disastrous, costing trillions of dollars and thousands of US soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths.

In Afghanistan, it was the same, but with a UN Security Council (UNSC) resolution, they even trained the Afghan army. But after 20 years, they withdrew, the Taliban took over and the regime change attempt was a disaster.

In Libya, there was a UNSC resolution of responsibility to protect – so not exactly a regime change – but they tended to regime change without American boots on the ground. The Americans, along with the Europeans, were able to change the Gaddafi regime.

The result? Disastrous. Libya continues to struggle with major divisions, chaos and violence.

So we have three attempts by the US within two decades that prove that regime change is more or less an utter failure.

Source: https://aje.news/p4rw7y?update=4347849.
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Trump is not putting boots on the ground. It will be aerial strikes and drone warfare.. you cant change people's mindset.. even with regime change, they will never want a secular democracy, they always want an Islamic and Sharia law country..
 
This bloody War initiated by USA-Isreal will be disastrous for common masses economy. Inflation will rise terribly which is already high at global level and the oppressive influence of Zionists in middle-east will become impenetrable unfortunately.

And those who think within Pakistan people that it has no connection to Pak-Afghan War are fooling themselves and will regret intellectually in future.

Both Wars will be long and tiresome for all. Elite class won't be affected much but the middle class of the world especially Asia will further fall in the trap of poverty.
 
rballer said:
Stick to IPL and Bollywood that’s extent of an average Indian life. Thats what solely guides you.

your understanding of geopolitics comes from Akshay kumar and his likes.

Samaj tu agaye ho ge, if not then take few sips of gomutra- can open deeper realities of world.
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Don’t need lessons on geo politics from Pakistanis like you go get you churan from ispr, your country’s existence is dependent on begging from imf or becoming security guard to arab states

And you will teach geopolitics to Indians…..🤣
 
deltexas said:
Trump is not putting boots on the ground. It will be aerial strikes and drone warfare.. you cant change people's mindset.. even with regime change, they will never want a secular democracy, they always want an Islamic and Sharia law country..
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The issue isnt whether Iran government is secular or not. Saddam was as secular as you can get. The issue is West dont want Iran to be powerful militarily.
 
Netanyuhu is saying. Khomeini. Is gone .if true waiting for some missiles to fall on tel Aviv for our resident PP to declare victory and take our procession..all they need is a jet down to seal the deal
 
straighttalk said:
I can comment on two things. Israel launched a preemptive strike..that was not defense but if the ayotollahs get nukes...Israel is done for.

Second as for the girls school .it's reprehensible but it seems more a propaganda by Iran than an actual event..why would Israel bomb a school in rural area and get all the criticism for 0 reason with no strategic value...most armies don't operate that way...it's different from unintended casualties....where civilians were in vicinity. But I will stand corrected if western sources confirm this atrocity and then I'm with you in condemning it.
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Baal Worshippers love child sacrifice. I wish it was just propoganda but no. It was a precision strike.
Since when have the Isrealis been scared of criticism?

There's no such thing as a pre-emptive strike. The Americans and Iranians were having negotiations.
straighttalk said:
I can comment on two things. Israel launched a preemptive strike..that was not defense but if the ayotollahs get nukes...Israel is done for.

Second as for the girls school .it's reprehensible but it seems more a propaganda by Iran than an actual event..why would Israel bomb a school in rural area and get all the criticism for 0 reason with no strategic value...most armies don't operate that way...it's different from unintended casualties....where civilians were in vicinity. But I will stand corrected if western sources confirm this atrocity and then I'm with you in condemning it.
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Now waiting for the mighty Pak m to come to the support of their Islamic ummah brother Iran.. stony silence?? Need another nomination for a nobel peace prize! 😂
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
One thing that can always be guaranteed, when US or Israel rain missiles on a Muslim country, the hindutvas will always blame the country getting attacked.
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Not at all ...we dont hate peaceful liberal Islamic countries or even illiberal countries as long as. They don't sponsor terrorism..so india has good relations with Iran Saudis Indonesia uae Bangladesh Afghanistan etc ..but Pakistan it's a terrorist country ..that's the problem. Iranian people are some of the best but the Iranian regime although they don't hurt Indians...sponsor terrorist s
 
There are major breaking reports coming out today that Israel is claiming Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has been killed following recent Israeli–US airstrikes on Iran.

According to Reuters, Israeli officials say Khamenei was killed in the strikes, although there has been no confirmation from Iran so far.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said there are “strong indications” or “many signs” that Khamenei is no longer alive, after a compound linked to him was reportedly destroyed.

However, Iranian officials have pushed back against these claims. Iran’s foreign minister said that senior officials were “safe and sound”, calling reports of Khamenei’s death psychological warfare.


At the moment:
  • Israel claims he is dead
  • Iran denies it
  • No independent confirmation yet

This comes after large-scale US–Israel strikes across Iran targeting military and leadership sites, which have significantly escaled tensions in the region.


If true, this would be one of the biggest events in Middle East history. But we’ve seen false death reports before during conflicts, so it’s worth waiting for confirmation.


What do people think?

  • Is this real or psychological warfare?
  • If Khamenei is dead, what happens to Iran next?
  • Could this escalate into a full regional war
 
straighttalk said:
Not at all ...we dont hate peaceful liberal Islamic countries or even illiberal countries as long as. They don't sponsor terrorism..so india has good relations with Iran Saudis Indonesia uae Bangladesh Afghanistan etc ..but Pakistan it's a terrorist country ..that's the problem. Iranian people are some of the best but the Iranian regime although they don't hurt Indians...sponsor terrorist s
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You are a hindutva, it is in your nature to tell falsehoods. It is not your fault.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
You are a hindutva, it is in your nature to tell falsehoods. It is not your fault.
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Ok..sir..we don't know where Osama is .he is in Afghanistan.
Kasab is a Hindu.
Kashmir is our jugular vein and IWT is sacred else act of war.
Hafeez saeed is behind bars
India sponsoring ttp and. Baloch
6 jets downed in 20 mins
Highest representation in grooming gang
 
deltexas said:
And exactly why they are not getting it. USA and Israel will make sure of that
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Understandable. All expansionist empires want to monopolise weapons of mass destruction, so they can use them to destroy anyone who opposes them. Pakistan is a poorly run country, but you have to give them credit for securing the nuclear deterrent early on. This has safeguarded their future until now. Iran and the middle eastern countries took too long and put their trust in the vulture nations. They have only themselves to blame when that backfired.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Don’t need lessons on geo politics from Pakistanis like you go get you churan from ispr, your country’s existence is dependent on begging from imf or becoming security guard to arab states

And you will teach geopolitics to Indians…..🤣
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Yes we saw your geopolitics recently by calling a genocidal Terorrist apartheid state your Fathers, your fatherland.... What an absolute clown you have as a PM lol.

Also what geopolitics dancing rituals your PM performed for Israel per Epistien files?
 
Rana said:
Strong reports Khameni has been killed

This can become disastrous
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Iran is denying it. Perhaps those Iranian ballistics have made there way in numbers on that terror genocidal regime state so they ll fold and step back quick with any excuse. Iran shouldn't step back this time, and deal with this genocidal vicious state of savages for good
 
Kriketer said:
Iran is denying it. Perhaps those Iranian ballistics have made there way in numbers on that terror genocidal regime state so they ll fold and step back quick with any excuse. Iran shouldn't step back this time, and deal with this genocidal vicious state of savages for good
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I hope he hasn’t been killed. This is going to be utter madness if the regime just goes all out. They will take down everyone and everything they can whilst going down. Thousands of innocent people will die!
 
Kriketer said:
Iran is denying it. Perhaps those Iranian ballistics have made there way in numbers on that terror genocidal regime state so they ll fold and step back quick with any excuse. Iran shouldn't step back this time, and deal with this genocidal vicious state of savages for good
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Stop living in fantasy world dude, if Iran has anything to hit back with, they would have done so a long long time ago.

This myth of Iran holding back is hilarious, maximum they can do is lobby some low yield missiles randomly causing some random civilian causalities.
 
BDfanforever said:
Is Gaza like the only Muslim country out there? Why all of these scholars are hell bent on Gaza only as if there are no other Muslim countries needing or requiring help?
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China has systematically been eliminating muslims, killing them, forced conversion, torture on a huge scale. Not a single pakistani will ever say a world against them.

This caring for Muslims is very selective.
 
straighttalk said:
Iran can do zilch to Israel or USA. They are just trying to rage kill Arab civilians and disrupt oil to force Israel and us to back off under international pressure or get ground troops in
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Tel Aviv is lighting up at night . Israel is small , 4/5 cities it’s done . Iran can do this is in one night , missile and drone technology along with Chinese satellites and comms , Israel can be destroyed. Iran doesn’t want this as it will result in nuclear war . Iran wants to be independent and not a slave , it’s victorious regardless .
 
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