UK announces radical changes to its immigration rules

[mominsaigol]

Amidst the recent chaos, UK has now tightened immigration laws surrounding their country. Here are the recent changes.

1) In order to become a UK citizen you must live in the country for 10 years rather then 5 which was the standard on an Indefininte Leave to Remain.

2) It is now longer possible to hire overseas workers if they are outside the UK ensuring that someone can only be sponsored if they are on a Student Visa.

3) Students after graduation now have even less time to find work and get sponsored after graduation. Previously it was 2 years currently it's 18 months.

4) Employee Sponsorship prices have increased discouraging UK employers from sponsoring candidates and look for PR/Citizenship holders.

The reason i am making this thread is because this announcement came coincidentally after the Pakistan and India ceasefire happened.

Previously their was zero indication that the rules would have changed, my guess is UK is reacting to the war as India and Pakistan are their largest migrant pool surpassing any other migrant pool who wishes to immigrate to the UK.

@Rana @DeadlyVenom @gazza619 @Rajdeep @shaz619 @emranabbas

 

[oatmeal]

Nothing to do with the war. There were local elections in the uk the the right wing Reform Party won the largest vote share.

So Labour is trying to show the public they are doing something to reduce immigration

 

[RexRex]

Keir Starmer said 'UK is becoming like an island of strangers'

Surprising to hear that come from a Labour PM.

 

[mominsaigol]

What i don't get is why UK is doing this? Tue sole reason Foreign students wish to study is to eventually immigrate.

With such laws the government will lose a ton of money , as no foreign student will want to study in UK anymore.

10 years is too much, no one wants to work for a single employer for 10 years on a sponsorship and get a passport by year 11. That's more then 10% of your life your wasting away for immigration?

This is why you have to appreciate Canada and Australia for making their immigration laws comparatively easy.

Granted both countries are gradually making it harder but it's still somewhat easy for now.

 

[sweep_shot]

What i don't get is why UK is doing this? Tue sole reason Foreign students wish to study is to eventually immigrate.

With such laws the government will lose a ton of money , as no foreign student will want to study in UK anymore.

10 years is too much, no one wants to work for a single employer for 10 years on a sponsorship and get a passport by year 11. That's more then 10% of your life your wasting away for immigration?

This is why you have to appreciate Canada and Australia for making their immigration laws comparatively easy.

Granted both countries are gradually making it harder but it's still somewhat easy for now.

I don't know about Australia but Canada has made immigration a bit tougher lately (even though liberals are still in charge).

To be fair, it was expected because Canada was experiencing issues like housing crisis, job crisis, worsening healthcare, increased crimes etc.

 

[mominsaigol]

I don't know about Australia but Canada has made immigration a bit tougher lately (even though liberals are still in charge).

To be fair, it was expected because Canada was experiencing issues like housing crisis, job crisis, worsening healthcare, increased crimes etc.

Australian immigration is not that hard assuming you know what you're doing.

Basically their 2 main visas, 190 and 491. 190 is very hard to get as the points are competitive. 491 is extremely easy to get.

With 190, you will get pr and passport after 4 years, and with 491 it's the same. The difference is that 491 is regional and after 3 years it gets converted into 191 full time pr and then passport is granted.

As long as you're willing to work and live in regional Australia, you will get 491 and then passport and 491 is extremely easy to get.

The goverment classifies all of Australia as regional except Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. Basically Australian government is sick of people migrating to Sydney Melbourne and Brisbane and they want areas like Perth, Adelaide, Hobart, Canberra, Gold coast etc etc to be populated.

So as long as you're willing to work anywhere other then brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne you will get it.

Infact aussie goverment is putting all their attention on Perth and Gold coast atm. WWE and Taylor Swift and all these celebrities keep coming to Perth and Right now the goverment is developing Gold coast to extend all the way to Brisbaje and eventually become a cosmopolitan.

 

[mominsaigol]

I don't know about Australia but Canada has made immigration a bit tougher lately (even though liberals are still in charge).

To be fair, it was expected because Canada was experiencing issues like housing crisis, job crisis, worsening healthcare, increased crimes etc.

Also Canada immigration isn't that tough lol. First and foremost Australia and Canada are the only 2 countries in the world that instantly grant PR as soon as you complete PHD.

In Canada if you complete PHD in any area of Ontario you get PR and in Aus if you complete it from any area of ACT you get it.

Secondly the points system for Aus and Express entry system for Canada ensures that highly qualified skilled professionals that contribute to their economy can get access.

Lastly their extremely generous with temporary graduate visas for undergraduate students.

The only thing Canada and Australia have done is that they have stopped letting any tom dick and Harry immigrate, they obviously want degree holders with 1 to 5 years of work experience and ideally are unmarried or recently married with a wife/husband who is equally as qualified as they are.

Canada and Australia just got sick of letting Indian janitors or village idiots immigrate.

Their immigration system is extremely fair when you consider that.

Compare that to USA or UK that are tightening laws for no reason. UK's laws of staying in the country on visa sponsorship basically makes it impossible to immigrate now.

No student is going to want to stay in one company for 10+ years lol. Same with USA their immigration system is nonsense.

Atleast Canada and Australia are ensuring that if you are educated and have work experience then you can stay as they value those who can genuinely contribute towards their economy

 

[sweep_shot]

Also Canada immigration isn't that tough lol. First and foremost Australia and Canada are the only 2 countries in the world that instantly grant PR as soon as you complete PHD.

In Canada if you complete PHD in any area of Ontario you get PR and in Aus if you complete it from any area of ACT you get it.

Secondly the points system for Aus and Express entry system for Canada ensures that highly qualified skilled professionals that contribute to their economy can get access.

Lastly their extremely generous with temporary graduate visas for undergraduate students.

The only thing Canada and Australia have done is that they have stopped letting any tom dick and Harry immigrate, they obviously want degree holders with 1 to 5 years of work experience and ideally are unmarried or recently married with a wife/husband who is equally as qualified as they are.

Canada and Australia just got sick of letting Indian janitors or village idiots immigrate.

Their immigration system is extremely fair when you consider that.

Compare that to USA or UK that are tightening laws for no reason. UK's laws of staying in the country on visa sponsorship basically makes it impossible to immigrate now.

No student is going to want to stay in one company for 10+ years lol. Same with USA their immigration system is nonsense.

Atleast Canada and Australia are ensuring that if you are educated and have work experience then you can stay as they value those who can genuinely contribute towards their economy

Canada decided to accept less immigrants last year. See this link: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...government-of-canada-reduces-immigration.html.

Things have become stricter compared to 4-5 years ago.

It is still pretty relaxed compared to USA. I agree.

 

[Theanonymousone]

This was bound to happen as Western economies themselves are facing downturn. Lack of jobs, decline in growth and rising inflations has made situation difficult. Further illegal immigration and large asylum seekers from middle east and Africa is destroying the social benefits system there.

I think crackdown should begin from there with tightening legal immigration being second priority.

Job market is going to get only tighter and local people will sure revolt in the next 10 years.

Western economies are tightening foreign investment now. So, MNCs will only be willing to invest for a huge foreign markets in a target country rather than cheap manufacturing for their own domestic country.

China grew its auto manufacturing so much in 10 years that, US and Europe have put protective tariffs for Chinese made auto imports.

Countries like India, Vietnam and even Pakistan can only improve their domestic markets else, face even more dwindling FDIs in future which will directly impact their job markets.

 

[mominsaigol]

Canada decided to accept less immigrants last year. See this link: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...government-of-canada-reduces-immigration.html.

Things have become stricter compared to 4-5 years ago.

It is still pretty relaxed compared to USA. I agree.

It's reducing immigrants because they are selecting only those that can actually contribute aka those with degrees + work experience + spouses who are equally skilled.

They don't want Indian village boys or Indian janitors to come anymore.

Previously express entry was a joke where every tom dick and Harry could get in. Now they obviously want skilled individuals.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

What i don't get is why UK is doing this? Tue sole reason Foreign students wish to study is to eventually immigrate.

With such laws the government will lose a ton of money , as no foreign student will want to study in UK anymore.

10 years is too much, no one wants to work for a single employer for 10 years on a sponsorship and get a passport by year 11. That's more then 10% of your life your wasting away for immigration?

This is why you have to appreciate Canada and Australia for making their immigration laws comparatively easy.

Granted both countries are gradually making it harder but it's still somewhat easy for now.

Anti migrant sentiment and racism has never been higher in the UK. Language that appeared to be dead and buried is now suddenly acceptable to use again.

 

[speed]

Indian Immigration is a biological weapon, 1.5 billion of them, every country must protect themselves for them.

 

[psyoptica]

Also Canada immigration isn't that tough lol. First and foremost Australia and Canada are the only 2 countries in the world that instantly grant PR as soon as you complete PHD.

In Canada if you complete PHD in any area of Ontario you get PR and in Aus if you complete it from any area of ACT you get it.

Secondly the points system for Aus and Express entry system for Canada ensures that highly qualified skilled professionals that contribute to their economy can get access.

Lastly their extremely generous with temporary graduate visas for undergraduate students.

The only thing Canada and Australia have done is that they have stopped letting any tom dick and Harry immigrate, they obviously want degree holders with 1 to 5 years of work experience and ideally are unmarried or recently married with a wife/husband who is equally as qualified as they are.

Canada and Australia just got sick of letting Indian janitors or village idiots immigrate.

Their immigration system is extremely fair when you consider that.

Compare that to USA or UK that are tightening laws for no reason. UK's laws of staying in the country on visa sponsorship basically makes it impossible to immigrate now.

No student is going to want to stay in one company for 10+ years lol. Same with USA their immigration system is nonsense.

Atleast Canada and Australia are ensuring that if you are educated and have work experience then you can stay as they value those who can genuinely contribute towards their economy

I think you are very much misinformed on the Canadian immigration. You don't automatically get PR after completing your PhD in Canada. Canada is currently prioritizing French speakers and in demand occupations. Skills and qualifications are loosely tied to immigration pathways now. The express entry stream is extremly competetive now due to its high demand and sporadic draws.

Also you are making Australian parmanent immigration sound so easy which i highly doubt it is. The 491 you are referring to, i'm sure it's not as simple as "move to a remote region is Australia to obtain it". Desis would gladly live on trees for the rest of their lives if a PR was offered to them. I have close friends in Auatrlia who are fairly qualified, have bachelors degrees and work experience and have been in Australia for more than a decade yet they are not citizens. They are relying on the employer to sponsor them for PR

 

[mominsaigol]

I think you are very much misinformed on the Canadian immigration. You don't automatically get PR after completing your PhD in Canada. Canada is currently prioritizing French speakers and in demand occupations. Skills and qualifications are loosely tied to immigration pathways now. The express entry stream is extremly competetive now due to its high demand and sporadic draws.

Also you are making Australian parmanent immigration sound so easy which i highly doubt it is. The 491 you are referring to, i'm sure it's not as simple as "move to a remote region is Australia to obtain it". Desis would gladly live on trees for the rest of their lives if a PR was offered to them. I have close friends in Auatrlia who are fairly qualified, have bachelors degrees and work experience and have been in Australia for more than a decade yet they are not citizens. They are relying on the employer to sponsor them for PR

For Canadian you may or may not be right, but ontario has a PHD ontario nomination stream. You graduate and you get it.

As for 491, idk about your desi friends but they must be pretty stupid if their taking over 10 years to obtain it.

491 is also points based but the points system is far more relaxed then the 190. 30 points for age if under 33, 20 points for Ielts, 15 for nomination, 5 for work experience, 15 to 25 points for education depending on qualifications, and 5 for naati is usually more then enough to secure 491.

Most people get it with 70 to 85 points, 90 to 115 is overkill.

Your desi friends must all be village idiots working janitor jobs and not have roles on skilled occupational lists if they haven't been able to secure aus PR In 10 years.

I have lived here and I'm telling you it is Impossible what you are claiming, so either your friends are morons or you're lying.

The Canadian one I won't say anything, but im certain that Canadian giverment would not be lying about OINP stream

 

[mominsaigol]

I think you are very much misinformed on the Canadian immigration. You don't automatically get PR after completing your PhD in Canada. Canada is currently prioritizing French speakers and in demand occupations. Skills and qualifications are loosely tied to immigration pathways now. The express entry stream is extremly competetive now due to its high demand and sporadic draws.

Also you are making Australian parmanent immigration sound so easy which i highly doubt it is. The 491 you are referring to, i'm sure it's not as simple as "move to a remote region is Australia to obtain it". Desis would gladly live on trees for the rest of their lives if a PR was offered to them. I have close friends in Auatrlia who are fairly qualified, have bachelors degrees and work experience and have been in Australia for more than a decade yet they are not citizens. They are relying on the employer to sponsor them for PR

I have close friends in Auatrlia who are fairly qualified, have bachelors degrees and work experience and have been in Australia for more than a decade yet they are not citizens. They are relying on the employer to sponsor them for PR

^^ This isnt even possible, if they have not been sponsered how are they even staying in aus for that long?

Temporary graduate for bachelors is 2 years? After that you need a sponsor to stay and 482 sponsorship is 5 years.

You're claiming they have not been sponsored yet their somehow able to legally live in Australia for 10 years?

That's impossible.

Unless their automatically PR holders in which case they should have easily gotten it.

A classic example of an Indian lying through their teeth.

 

[psyoptica]

For Canadian you may or may not be right, but ontario has a PHD ontario nomination stream. You graduate and you get it.

As for 491, idk about your desi friends but they must be pretty stupid if their taking over 10 years to obtain it.

491 is also points based but the points system is far more relaxed then the 190. 30 points for age if under 33, 20 points for Ielts, 15 for nomination, 5 for work experience, 15 to 25 points for education depending on qualifications, and 5 for naati is usually more then enough to secure 491.

Most people get it with 70 to 85 points, 90 to 115 is overkill.

Your desi friends must all be village idiots working janitor jobs and not have roles on skilled occupational lists if they haven't been able to secure aus PR In 10 years.

I have lived here and I'm telling you it is Impossible what you are claiming, so either your friends are morons or you're lying.

The Canadian one I won't say anything, but im certain that Canadian giverment would not be lying about OINP stream

No need to insult my friends like that. The friend I'm referring to is a Project manager living in Sydney. Just because you were lucky to get your PR doesn't mean anyone can. If that were that case, you have a huge market to sell the PR to (India)

As for the OINP stream, it's just a PNP immigration pathway. Completing phD in Ontario only makes you eligble to apply. You still need the province to pick you so you can apply for PR

 

[mominsaigol]

No need to insult my friends like that. The friend I'm referring to is a Project manager living in Sydney. Just because you were lucky to get your PR doesn't mean anyone can. If that were that case, you have a huge market to sell the PR to (India)

As for the OINP stream, it's just a PNP immigration pathway. Completing phD in Ontario only makes you eligble to apply. You still need the province to pick you so you can apply for PR

Not insulting, but im claiming that what you claimed is logically impossible.

Sydney is NSW meaning he would require state nomination + skills assessment + points to apply. He is not eligible for 491 as Sydney is not a regional area.

Secondly their are 2 project manager occupations in Australia. ICT Project Manager + Construction project manager.

Construction project manager is on 189 meaning if he's a Construction project manager he should be able to self sponser. Im assuming he's under 45, has done his bachelor from Aus, has work experience under his belt and probably has done his ielts and Naati, hence he should have acquired it.

If he is ICT project manager then ICT project manager is not on NSW list. It's on 190 but it's not on NSW migration list.

Meaning I will still call him a moron since he's chosen the most difficult state to acquire PR in.

Easiest state in SA and Victoria. Tell him to move to victoria and lodge it from their and problem solved.

Lastly it's not even possible for him to live their 10 years. If he's in Construction then yes his 482 can be extended indefinitely if the employer wishes it, although it's funny why the employer just hasn't given him the 186.

But if he's an ict manager you cant extend it, in other words he should have been kicked out of Australia by now.

So what you're saying is not logically possible.

 

[psyoptica]

Not insulting, but im claiming that what you claimed is logically impossible.

Sydney is NSW meaning he would require state nomination + skills assessment + points to apply. He is not eligible for 491 as Sydney is not a regional area.

Secondly their are 2 project manager occupations in Australia. ICT Project Manager + Construction project manager.

Construction project manager is on 189 meaning if he's a Construction project manager he should be able to self sponser. Im assuming he's under 45, has done his bachelor from Aus, has work experience under his belt and probably has done his ielts and Naati, hence he should have acquired it.

If he is ICT project manager then ICT project manager is not on NSW list. It's on 190 but it's not on NSW migration list.

Meaning I will still call him a moron since he's chosen the most difficult state to acquire PR in.

Easiest state in SA and Victoria. Tell him to move to victoria and lodge it from their and problem solved.

Lastly it's not even possible for him to live their 10 years. If he's in Construction then yes his 482 can be extended indefinitely if the employer wishes it, although it's funny why the employer just hasn't given him the 186.

But if he's an ict manager you cant extend it, in other words he should have been kicked out of Australia by now.

So what you're saying is not logically possible.

I can't speak on what efforts he made and what went wrong for him but don't be so arrogant to judge someone as you don't know about their personal circumstances. Even speaking in general terms, you just can't claim that "anyone" can obtain PR in Australia. Also to suggest someone uproot their life and move to a new place just so they become PR is unreasonable.

Not everyone goes to Australia/Canada/USA for the sole purpose of becoming a citizen. Getting PR in those countries requires a fair amount of luck for example the short window during Covid period when the Liberal government in Canada decided to give PR to just about anyone. Many people who never dreamed to become citizens in Canada got their PRs. Same was the case with many asylm seekers in the US that were pardoned and granted status during the Biden adminstration.

According to statistics, only 16 percent students get their permanent status in Australia so your claim about easy PR is not even remotely close to the reality.

Australia must join global race to settle international students – Universities Australia

universitiesaustralia.edu.au

 

[mominsaigol]

I can't speak on what efforts he made and what went wrong for him but don't be so arrogant to judge someone as you don't know about their personal circumstances. Even speaking in general terms, you just can't claim that "anyone" can obtain PR in Australia. Also to suggest someone uproot their life and move to a new place just so they become PR is unreasonable.

Not everyone goes to Australia/Canada/USA for the sole purpose of becoming a citizen. Getting PR in those countries requires a fair amount of luck for example the short window during Covid period when the Liberal government in Canada decided to give PR to just about anyone. Many people who never dreamed to become citizens in Canada got their PRs. Same was the case with many asylm seekers in the US that were pardoned and granted status during the Biden adminstration.

According to statistics, only 16 percent students get their permanent status in Australia so your claim about easy PR is not even remotely close to the reality.

Australia must join global race to settle international students – Universities Australia

universitiesaustralia.edu.au

By anyone i mean skilled migrants who do a bit of legwork.

First and foremost anyone can apply for immigration. You go to the website and lodge it. As a result Australia gets alot of applications from underqualified applicants which they automatically deny.

Secondly it depends on the state but I'll list the criteria.

NSW: Must have a skills assessment + occupation on NSW list of which case only 189 priority occupations are listed.

SA: Either graduated from a sa uni or worked in sa for one year of worked offshore for 3 years.

Queensland: worked in queensland for atleast 6 months

Victoria: Need to write a strong ROI that proves why you're a good candidate, job offer not required nor do you have be onshore. Best route is to get a good immigration lawyer to write one for you.

As for the rest, no clue. Idk how tasmania, NT or WA runs things.

State nomination gives you 5 points if you are applying for 190 and 15 if you are applying for 491.

To apply for PR you need skills assessment + State nomination. Once these 2 things are granted you then apply but to recieve an ITA it will depend on your points.

You need a minimum of 65 to apply for 190 and 55 to apply for 491.

However to be competitive you need atleast 90-95 for 190 and 75-80 for 491. If you have > 100 in both then most likely you will get it.

Here are how the points are calculated

Age: 18-24 = 25 points, 25 to 32 = 30 points, 33 to 44 = 25 points.

English language proficiency: Ielts 6.0 and > = 5 points, 7.0 and > = 10 points, 8.0 and > = 20 points

Education = Bachelor = 15, Masters by coursework= 15, PHD or Masters by research in STEM = 20

Partner points = 10 if unmarried or 10 if partner has skills assessment + Ielts > 6.0, 5 or 0 if married and partner has none of the >.

Study in regional aus = 5 points

Study in Australia from an aussie uni = 5 points

Naati test = 5 points

Work experience in aus = 5 points for 1 year, 10 for 3, 15 for 5 and 20 for 8 and >.

Work experience overseas = 5 for 3 years, 10 for 5, 15 for 8, 20 for 15 and >

State nomination = 5 for 190 and 15 for 491

^^ This is how the points are calculated However I've never heard of anyone getting rejected if they have 90 points or > especially for 491.

As you can see uneducated people with zero experience won't get accepted for obvious reasons.

 

[Theanonymousone]

Indian Immigration is a biological weapon, 1.5 billion of them, every country must protect themselves for them.

In that sense, countries can also think about Muslims the same way right?
Such hatred lol.
I mean Hindus never want to implement a parallel society like Sharia law when they migrate to other nations. So, this biological weapon concept is more applicable to Muslims when they openly claim that, when their population reaches to a certain level, western nations doest have a choice but to accept.

 

[Bhaijaan]

UK being one of our best friends in the Muslim world, I fully support this move.

 

[mominsaigol]

In that sense, countries can also think about Muslims the same way right?
Such hatred lol.
I mean Hindus never want to implement a parallel society like Sharia law when they migrate to other nations. So, this biological weapon concept is more applicable to Muslims when they openly claim that, when their population reaches to a certain level, western nations doest have a choice but to accept.

India and China is at fault the most though for strict immigration laws.

Despite having a combined population of over 2.5B they just don't wish to stay in their own country.

It's crazy to think that their total count is far higher then 2.5B as 2.7B is the no of people living in China and India alone, it doesn't count the migrant population in other countries.

If these 2 nations didn't wish to immigrate in such high numbers, immigration laws would be more relaxed

 

[Theanonymousone]

India and China is at fault the most though for strict immigration laws.

Despite having a combined population of over 2.5B they just don't wish to stay in their own country.

It's crazy to think that their total count is far higher then 2.5B as 2.7B is the no of people living in China and India alone, it doesn't count the migrant population in other countries.

If these 2 nations didn't wish to immigrate in such high numbers, immigration laws would be more relaxed

These 2 countries are the world’s oldest civilizations existing now.
Immigration is a natural way of flowing from higher density to lower density right?

As long as its legal and it doesnt hurt the country, its fine. If people are messing it up there, they should be deported. Somewhere, I can understand where you are coming from.

You have migrated to a better place and now you are part of it. And you dont like getting it messed up. So, tighter immigration laws are needed. Sovereignty and borders should be maintained for a society to be civilized.

Indians and Chinese should learn this.
I dont mean to pull the leg but, Africa and Middle east are becoming the culprits here with Pakistan also topping it. I read a stat where Pakistan had more migration last year in 2024 in Asia.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What i don't get is why UK is doing this? Tue sole reason Foreign students wish to study is to eventually immigrate.

With such laws the government will lose a ton of money , as no foreign student will want to study in UK anymore.

10 years is too much, no one wants to work for a single employer for 10 years on a sponsorship and get a passport by year 11. That's more then 10% of your life your wasting away for immigration?

This is why you have to appreciate Canada and Australia for making their immigration laws comparatively easy.

Granted both countries are gradually making it harder but it's still somewhat easy for now.

Because they are losing votes to the Reform Party which also panders to people looking for simple solutions. These solutions never really stand up in the light of day when examined properly. It is not even clear how Farage would actually implement half the stuff he has promised.

 

[Rajdeep]

Amidst the recent chaos, UK has now tightened immigration laws surrounding their country. Here are the recent changes.

1) In order to become a UK citizen you must live in the country for 10 years rather then 5 which was the standard on an Indefininte Leave to Remain.

2) It is now longer possible to hire overseas workers if they are outside the UK ensuring that someone can only be sponsored if they are on a Student Visa.

3) Students after graduation now have even less time to find work and get sponsored after graduation. Previously it was 2 years currently it's 18 months.

4) Employee Sponsorship prices have increased discouraging UK employers from sponsoring candidates and look for PR/Citizenship holders.

The reason i am making this thread is because this announcement came coincidentally after the Pakistan and India ceasefire happened.

Previously their was zero indication that the rules would have changed, my guess is UK is reacting to the war as India and Pakistan are their largest migrant pool surpassing any other migrant pool who wishes to immigrate to the UK.

@Rana @DeadlyVenom @gazza619 @Rajdeep @shaz619 @emranabbas

I already posted about this yesterday bro but like in most cases another of my thread got binned.

Anyway, this is a good and much needed step by Govt. You must understand and communicate in basic English if you want to stay in Britain. Also, 10 years settlement is a realistic timeframe.

This has nothing to do with Ind-Pak ceasefire though...UK couldn't care less. Starmer implemented this because he is losing grip with ever rising Reform Party and increase in popularity of Nigel Farage. Labour knows they need to act on immigration now, else they will lose next election to reform.

 

[mominsaigol]

I already posted about this yesterday bro but like in most cases another of my thread got binned.

Anyway, this is a good and much needed step by Govt. You must understand and communicate in basic English if you want to stay in Britain. Also, 10 years settlement is a realistic timeframe.

This has nothing to do with Ind-Pak ceasefire though...UK couldn't care less. Starmer implemented this because he is losing grip with ever rising Reform Party and increase in popularity of Nigel Farage. Labour knows they need to act on immigration now, else they will lose next election to reform.

My threads don't get binned cause im the greatest of all time on PP, the John cena on this forumn. Anyway

I disagree, and this disagreement is coming from a neutral person who has nothing to do with UK nor any intent to move or settle their.

I disagree because I feel Canada and Australia have the right idea aka give skilled migrants who can contribute to their economy a right to live and work and both countries typically give it in 4 to 5 years.

This policy is unfair for multiple reasons, First and foremost

A) Its completly unfair to UK foreign students who are coming to study here. This is exploitation from the UK goverment.

B) Secondly, the fact that they have banned or severely restricted overseas work sponsorship means that students will have to spend months looking for work, then hope that a company is willing to sponsor them for 10+ years until they get a right to remain.

It's total nonsense and im sure if you were in this situation you'd complain as well.

10+ years for one company is too much for an employer and an employee. The employer has to pay too much and the employee has to sacrifice too much.

UK should have just adopted Australia's strategy for regional Visas where they should have encouraged foreigners to populate and contribute in areas where their aren't that many people.

Areas like Coventry are severely under populated while areas like London are overpopulated.

That's what Australia is trying to achieve with its 491 visa aka encourage people to move to gold coast, adelaide, Perth and stay away from Sydney Melbourne and Brisbane.

Kicking people out is extreme.

 

[mominsaigol]

So basically the easiest way to move to UK now is to become an Irish citizen or marry a British citizen.

 

[oatmeal]

This will basically not net Labour any votes. these moves will decrease net migration in the future. But the problem of Reform voters is that there are too many brown people right now.

Applying these rules retrospectively will surely result in a court case , and it wont have any noticeable effect for at least a couple of years if not done retrospectively

 

[Rajdeep]

My threads don't get binned cause im the greatest of all time on PP, the John cena on this forumn. Anyway

I disagree, and this disagreement is coming from a neutral person who has nothing to do with UK nor any intent to move or settle their.

I disagree because I feel Canada and Australia have the right idea aka give skilled migrants who can contribute to their economy a right to live and work and both countries typically give it in 4 to 5 years.

This policy is unfair for multiple reasons, First and foremost

A) Its completly unfair to UK foreign students who are coming to study here. This is exploitation from the UK goverment.

B) Secondly, the fact that they have banned or severely restricted overseas work sponsorship means that students will have to spend months looking for work, then hope that a company is willing to sponsor them for 10+ years until they get a right to remain.

It's total nonsense and im sure if you were in this situation you'd complain as well.

10+ years for one company is too much for an employer and an employee. The employer has to pay too much and the employee has to sacrifice too much.

UK should have just adopted Australia's strategy for regional Visas where they should have encouraged foreigners to populate and contribute in areas where their aren't that many people.

Areas like Coventry are severely under populated while areas like London are overpopulated.

That's what Australia is trying to achieve with its 491 visa aka encourage people to move to gold coast, adelaide, Perth and stay away from Sydney Melbourne and Brisbane.

Kicking people out is extreme.

What is Australia's policy?

 

[mominsaigol]

What is Australia's policy?

Australia has a few options.

Option A is employment sponsorship, Option B is 189/190 PR apply and Option C is 491.

491 is a new visa introduced in 2023.

Basically to get Aussie PR you need a skills assessment done which is one year work experience, Then you need to acquire state nomination.

Each state has their own rules, so check what those are.

Once you get both documents, you apply for PR and whether you get it or not depends on your points, 65 points minimum to apply for 190 and 55 for 491.

But 491 is much easier to get as typically people get it for 70 to 80 points and the points higher, state nomination for 491 is 15 points while for 190 is 5 points.

Basically with 491 visa, you get pr after 3 years and passport the year after, but you are not allowed to work in Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane.

Australia is sick of people moving to these 3 areas. Since areas like gold coast, canberra, Adelaide, Perth are very underpopulated with a population of 400 to 600K max.

They want .ore migrants but not in Sydney, Melbourne and brisbane that have 2M to 5M people.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I already posted about this yesterday bro but like in most cases another of my thread got binned.

Anyway, this is a good and much needed step by Govt. You must understand and communicate in basic English if you want to stay in Britain. Also, 10 years settlement is a realistic timeframe.

This has nothing to do with Ind-Pak ceasefire though...UK couldn't care less. Starmer implemented this because he is losing grip with ever rising Reform Party and increase in popularity of Nigel Farage. Labour knows they need to act on immigration now, else they will lose next election to reform.

I don't agree with you on many posts but on this one I do. Not because I care that much about who speaks English nicely or who doesn't...simply because I do, and so does everyone in my family. If this sort of stuff helps white people feel less threatened by awful foreigners then fine by me. I don't see much of a future for the UK going down the Little England route, but again, I am not too fussed. It is similar to the USA having an identity crisis, and it's better everyone gets this out of their system same as is happening over there.

 

[shaz619]

Amidst the recent chaos, UK has now tightened immigration laws surrounding their country. Here are the recent changes.

1) In order to become a UK citizen you must live in the country for 10 years rather then 5 which was the standard on an Indefininte Leave to Remain.

2) It is now longer possible to hire overseas workers if they are outside the UK ensuring that someone can only be sponsored if they are on a Student Visa.

3) Students after graduation now have even less time to find work and get sponsored after graduation. Previously it was 2 years currently it's 18 months.

4) Employee Sponsorship prices have increased discouraging UK employers from sponsoring candidates and look for PR/Citizenship holders.

The reason i am making this thread is because this announcement came coincidentally after the Pakistan and India ceasefire happened.

Previously their was zero indication that the rules would have changed, my guess is UK is reacting to the war as India and Pakistan are their largest migrant pool surpassing any other migrant pool who wishes to immigrate to the UK.

@Rana @DeadlyVenom @gazza619 @Rajdeep @shaz619 @emranabbas

I think this is just a reaction from Starmer to Nigel Farage & Reform doing well in the local elections, a little too late though and shows what a reactive numpty he is.

 

[IMMY69]

I think this is just a reaction from Starmer to Nigel Farage & Reform doing well in the local elections, a little too late though and shows what a reactive numpty he is.

Labour are really messing up the economy and seem to be hitting an own goal with every step they take.
They need to get their act together quickly.

 

[mominsaigol]

I think this is just a reaction from Starmer to Nigel Farage & Reform doing well in the local elections, a little too late though and shows what a reactive numpty he is.

I think it's a way to keep kohli out of the UK

 

[shaz619]

I think it's a way to keep kohli out of the UK

Man is well connected and fast tracked his retirement knowing the change that was coming for all the Indians

 

[oatmeal]

I don't agree with you on many posts but on this one I do. Not because I care that much about who speaks English nicely or who doesn't...simply because I do, and so does everyone in my family. If this sort of stuff helps white people feel less threatened by awful foreigners then fine by me. I don't see much of a future for the UK going down the Little England route, but again, I am not too fussed. It is similar to the USA having an identity crisis, and it's better everyone gets this out of their system same as is happening over there.

I feel like the English speaking is just a proxy of what reform voters really want to say - they dont want people who dont look like them.

This is why these measures wont net them any reform or angry Tory voters. They are unhappy with immigrants already here, changes to ILR only have a future effect

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I feel like the English speaking is just a proxy of what reform voters really want to say - they dont want people who dont look like them.

This is why these measures wont net them any reform or angry Tory voters. They are unhappy with immigrants already here, changes to ILR only have a future effect

Most of them have never seen an England without immigrants. Even if they stop immigrants altogether, they still won't have a country with people who only look like them since there is already a big population of non-whites who have been living here for three or more generations. Maybe you could escape to some small village on the Isle of Man where you don't have to see any darker complexions. I bet life over there would be fun.

 

[finalfantasy7]

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