Illegal refugee = refugee who doesn’t claim asylum on the first port of call.
Remember, most of these illegal refugees bypass the Dublin regs because they land/set foot in the Mediterranean first, an EU nation, but decide they want to seek refugee in the UK cos Liberals have no problem with sponging, and the EU want to make an example of the UK.
Message for illegal refugees : Don’t try it from the Subcontinent, learn how to swim, learn how to apply a life jacket, and have your legal papers.
We are now watching you illegals.
PS : if you are lucky, you will not be shot dead by EU armed forces.
I told you, but you just seem to willingly ignore it... There is no legislation or law that demands that someone wishing to seek asylum has to claim it in the first place they reach.
Under Article 1 of the Convention, a refugee is a person who is outside his/her country of nationality or habitual residence; has a well-founded fear of persecution because of his/her race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinion; and is unable or unwilling to avail himself/herself of the protection of that country, or to return there, for fear of persecution.
Can you tell me where in the world it is illegal to be the above?
Moving on to illegal entry, illegal entrants who don't claim asylum are the easy ones to deal with. The government hardly bats an eye lid with these people because they have no rights whatsoever to remain. Ever stopped to think why it's the asylum ones they keep targeting?
The moment someone claims asylum, they are no longer illegal. The moment they are granted asylum, they can be categorised as a refugee. If their application fails, they are a failed asylum seeker, and still have appeal rights. If you're a failed asylum seeker, and submit more evidence, you still have rights to get a form of leave.
Sorry, but you can't even get the terminology right to form any coherence.
There is no way a refugee can be illegal... because the very definition of a refugee is that you have proven your case to be genuinely at risk under grounds of asylum and have been granted a formal status to be in the country.
So to summarise:
An illegal entrant has no status and are dealt with relatively easily
At the point of claiming asylum, they now formally have rights to stay in the country while their claim is assessed
Once an asylum decision is granted, you are now officially a refugee
Coming back to Dublin, which I'm well versed with enough to not be told how it works by someone who has never read them through even once:
You can't bypass the Dublin Regs by not claiming asylum, because you can still be fingerprinted and you would show up on Eurodac, therefore giving a country rights to send the person back to the country they were first encountered in. It's not even that simple though, because if you had read the Dublin Regs, you would understand that there are multiple outcomes to establish who is responsible for an asylum claim, and it won't necessarily be the first country you were recorded in.
Even if they travel to the UK and claim asylum, they still would have been subject to the Dublin Regs, they will not have bypassed them... which is why I say to you again, you voted out from the only mechanism we had to return these claimants. You voted to have all their asylum claims considered here.
Well, there is the inadmissability policy, but... I'll leave you to find out how that's going.
You don't know anything about the stories these people have, you don't have any idea about how the UK doesn't have anywhere near the scale of an issue that other countries do, that a vast majority of asylum claimants have a genuine case to make. I will also say that there are many problems with the asylum system, and there are genuine issues that need to be sorted out which aren't easy to deal with. There are claimants who are clearly abusing the system, but much like many things in life, you cannot throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Better a life saved, than one lost on chance.
As I said, you are so manipulated by what you read in your "non-MSM" sources (which is pretty much right wing MSM, but made you believe otherwise, I can tell from your language), you truly have no idea what you are even talking about, how the system works or what factors to even consider around this topic.
I can go even more technical (I'm actually being quite lazy in my posts to date) if you want me to show how wrong you are with your assertions around Dublin and asylum in general.
The only thing you have going for you in your posts which is reasonable is that you don't like people taking advantage of the system. Who the hell does? This is not some enlightened view which only you hold, it is actually quite generic and basic.
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