Umar Akmal and Salman Butt finally have averages....

[Junaids]

It has been a bad day today for two of the four exiles from the Pakistan national team. Until today they hadn't been dismissed and didn't even have batting averages.....

Sohail Khan removed Umar Akmal for 81 from 44 balls, which means that Umar Akmal now has an average of 114.00 in the National T20 Cup, following innings of 15*, 18* and now 81.

Further disaster struck just 4 balls later, with his teammate Salman Butt dismissed for 71, which rendered his average a paltry 189.00.

Butt's innings in this tournament have been 84*, 32* and now 71.

The average table now reads, in descending order:

Salman Butt 189.00
Umar Akmal 114.00
Fawad Khan 66.00
Rafatullah Mohmand 57.50

The bowlers today included Sohail Khan and Mir Hamza. In the last match they included Junaid Khan and Mohammad Irfan, while in the first game they included Rahat Ali and Zafar Gohar.

I will be interested to see what excuses are given for continuing to exclude the two most successful domestic batsmen. After all, Pakistan's limited overs batting is going so well this year......

 

[Rayyman]

Akmal can replace Malik. No spot for Salman though as Sharjeel is performing right now.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Salman even leaving out fixing, isnt what any our teams need right now.

Id even go as far to say that Shazaib Hasan would be a better choice

 

[itsme]

S/r please,especially of the 2nd match when salman channel his inner viv.

 

[endymion248]

It's nice to see Salman Butt performing in domestics as that's all he is going to do for the rest of his career.

As for Umar Akmal, I'd be ready to try him as an opener to replace Azhar Ali.

 

[Syed1]

Sorry don't see an opening for Salman Butt in the side

 

[Rayyman]

It's nice to see Salman Butt performing in domestics as that's all he is going to do for the rest of his career.

As for Umar Akmal, I'd be ready to try him as an opener to replace Azhar Ali.

Now that we have Sharjeel, we need a strike rotator to pair with him. Someone like Sarfraz or Babar. Umar can bat at either 4,5 or 6.

 

[WC-Passion]

Want to see Umar back in the LOI teams, in the modern game you can't afford to miss out on him when you have such a lack of hitters.

 

[Hawkeye]

Like it or not, Inzi is going to select Salman Butt. Even though he's not an accelerator and won't be much of an upgrade over Shehzad/Azhar Ali.

People will go blindly for his average - without looking at his ability, which doesn't include clean striking.

Umar Akmal, on the other hand, is Pakistan's best and most dynamic batsman.

 

[pasha404]

Junior is most welcome if he has sorted his issues but there is no place for Mr Butt not becoz of fixing but becoz the times has changed. Need to invest in some young players

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Like it or not, Inzi is going to select Salman Butt. Even though he's not an accelerator and won't be much of an upgrade over Shehzad/Azhar Ali.

People will go blindly for his average - without looking at his ability, which doesn't include clean striking.

Umar Akmal, on the other hand, is Pakistan's best and most dynamic batsman.

IF only Umar had a little bit of batting intelligence. He would become an ATG in a few years. But the guy has wasted his potential.

Pak could still use him effectively in the power plays where he can play his shots without any pressure or expectation. But that's on the coach. If Micky still sees a finisher in U. Akmal he will be very very disappointed. Umar just isn't intelligent enough to finish games consistently ala a Dhoni.

 

[MRSN]

Umar Akmal hitting six off fast bowlers with a pull shot tells you how good he is and should be in the Pakistan team. Players have a bad patch but don't drop them unless you have better players which 18 months have shown we don't.

 

[Rayyman]

IF only Umar had a little bit of batting intelligence. He would become an ATG in a few years. But the guy has wasted his potential.

Pak could still use him effectively in the power plays where he can play his shots without any pressure or expectation. But that's on the coach. If Micky still sees a finisher in U. Akmal he will be very very disappointed. Umar just isn't intelligent enough to finish games consistently ala a Dhoni.

Good thing is he is only 26. Misbah led the side from 36-40. Akmal still has 10-12 years left.

 

[Syed1]

Eager to see Umar back in the LOI side. On merit he deserves to be there. Malik, Hafeez and Azhar all need to be kicked out.

My ideal batting line up:

Sharjeel
Umar
Haris (bhai theek hojaaa )
Babar
Sarfaraz
Maqsood/Rizwan/Yamin (somebody who can consistently play at a SR of 150)
Nawaz/Imad

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Good thing is he is only 26. Misbah led the side from 36-40. Akmal still has 10-12 years left.

That never will be and never has been the issue.

The issue with Umar is if he can contribute consistently? IF not then what can Mickey Arthur do to get the most out of him? If you cannot check even one box then having U. Akmal playing till his 45th wouldn't matter.

I am afraid he will be put at 6 again and there he isn't that consistent. He doesn't possess that batting intelligence to bat in crunch situations.

 

[WC-Passion]

Eager to see Umar back in the LOI side. On merit he deserves to be there. Malik, Hafeez and Azhar all need to be kicked out.

My ideal batting line up:

Sharjeel
Umar
Haris (bhai theek hojaaa )
Babar
Sarfaraz
Maqsood/Rizwan/Yamin (somebody who can consistently play at a SR of 150)
Nawaz/Imad

Honestly Yamin is the only one worth playing there, he's going to fair much better overall than Maqsood and will have a better time against spin than Rizwan. To play Rizwan, imo, you have to play him in the top 3. Since Haris is injured, I'd slot him in there.

 

[endymion248]

Now that we have Sharjeel, we need a strike rotator to pair with him. Someone like Sarfraz or Babar. Umar can bat at either 4,5 or 6.

Umar Akmal is a good strike rotator. And a good hitter. Just brainless.

 

[MRSN]

Like it or not, Inzi is going to select Salman Butt. Even though he's not an accelerator and won't be much of an upgrade over Shehzad/Azhar Ali.

People will go blindly for his average - without looking at his ability, which doesn't include clean striking.

Umar Akmal, on the other hand, is Pakistan's best and most dynamic batsman.

Butt is not a bad opening batsman looking at options we have but I doubt with the history he has he will make comeback.

 

[endymion248]

Eager to see Umar back in the LOI side. On merit he deserves to be there. Malik, Hafeez and Azhar all need to be kicked out.

My ideal batting line up:

Sharjeel
Umar
Haris (bhai theek hojaaa )
Babar
Sarfaraz
Maqsood/Rizwan/Yamin (somebody who can consistently play at a SR of 150)
Nawaz/Imad

What about Zohaib Khan at 6? He can hit it a long way.

 

[Syed1]

What about Zohaib Khan at 6? He can hit it a long way.

Never even heard of him lol

 

[dauntless]

I would definitely play umar akmal there is not even a single batsman in the country who can match umar's abilities he can hit any fast bowler

 

[Finisher]

Akmal survived a clear out lbw early on and was bowled on a no ball.

A lucky innings

 

[MRSN]

Akmal survived a clear out lbw early on and was bowled on a no ball.

A lucky innings

no ball a high full toss thrown by a spinner isn't easy to play.

 

[reversehook]

No thank you. Do not need them.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

What about Zohaib Khan at 6? He can hit it a long way.

He cant play pace at all

 

[endymion248]

Never even heard of him lol

32 years old all-rounder. About the same as Imad Wasim in bowling, better hitter as a batsman.

He captained the Peshawar team in domestics to victory. Very good under pressure.

 

[www787]

Dumbest talented player to play after Afridi

 

[Syed1]

When was the last time he won a match for Pakistan?

The only thing that is true with Akmal is that he is talented. He is nothing else.

Kinda hard to win a match when the likes of Shehzad, Azhar, Malik and Misbah raise the required run rate to 9-10 an over with their garbage tuk tuk batting.

 

[Statsman]

Sohail Khan removed Umar Akmal for 81 from 44 balls, which means that Umar Akmal now has an average of 114.00 in the National T20 Cup, following innings of 15*, 18* and now 81.

Brother, this is leaving me very cold.

 

[Obstructing_the_field]

You deserve the likes of Malik,Sami Aslam,Azhar Ali.

pick up his innings where he played a sensible match winning innigs ? i can tell u many where he threw away the game... just on my fingretips... malik is good at 5/6 azhar and aslam needs to go from LOI

 

[Anik Sharma]

Bring back Umar Akmal

 

[Fahdi]

We'll have to bring Umar back. We have no other options. Have him open now, he will never be a finisher he doesn't have the calmness for it. Let him open the innings.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Is there no way the PP admins can get [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] an autograph from the great Salman Butt (or even an email note)? He has to be his biggest fan on here.

 

[street cricketer]

Lol normally [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] won't even watch international ODIs but he is now eagerly following random T20 leagues in Afghanistan and Pakistan for the sake of Butt and Akmal.

I love how Junaids always rallies for the most controversial players in Pak line up (Butt, Amir, Asif, Akmal)

Junaids is the perfect puppet master. [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION]

 

[Pakpak]

Is there no way the PP admins can get [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] an autograph from the great Salman Butt (or even an email note)? He has to be his biggest fan on here.

No to both, we have had Umar. Our fans will flip after 2 games demanding his removal. Watch.

 

[12jag]

He will win matches if batted high up in all formats -not lounging around at 6 - besides is there any batsman winning games for Pakistan in ODIs right now??

 

[Abdullah]

A match losing innings from butt given how the opposition have chased down the score with asad shafiq in the line up.
We all know he would have feasted on the lesser bowlers without doing anything against the notable quicks.
Same as all the other games

 

[Abdullah]

Lots of people wantEd KP for England after odi world cup debacle and look where they r now

 

[sam_ahm]

I think if Salman performs consistently then Inzi will select him, more so Inzi has played with him, groomed him during his initial days, so he'd know the kind of player Salman is and if he feels he is still good enough then he should select him.

Guys there is no denying that Spot Fixing scandal was the worst thing to have hit Pakistan cricket, absolutely agree, but if Salman is really performing well I think you guys need to give him a chance, he is 32, and Misbah re-started his career at 33 in 2007... so it's not all over for Salman

Many people talk about his Strike rate, but i beg to disagree, Salman in fact plays according to the situation, he is not a mad slogger who'd slog when the RRR is 4 rpo, yes he is not a big hitter, but you do not always need big hitters to score at a brisk SR and you all know that.

 

[proud_pakistani]

looking at the way things are going Salman Butt will be back in Pakistan colours soon. Don't think the PCB has the heart to keep him out if he keeps performing in domestic and surely the question is if Aamir can come back so can he. And with current state of affairs he may well be the partner required for Sharjeel at the top of the order.

 

[AJM-Q]

Eager to see Umar back in the LOI side. On merit he deserves to be there. Malik, Hafeez and Azhar all need to be kicked out.

My ideal batting line up:

Sharjeel
Umar
Haris (bhai theek hojaaa )
Babar
Sarfaraz
Maqsood/Rizwan/Yamin (somebody who can consistently play at a SR of 150)
Nawaz/Imad

I agree with your lineup. But would have only 2 of haris babr sarfraz. I like all 3 of them but we need 4 bats in the top 6 who can power hit.

Sharjeel and Umar two aggressive openers.
Babar and Sarfraz two accumalators to hold the innings at 3 and 4.
Rizwan and Yamin two lower order hitters at 5 and 6.

 

[Abdullah]

looking at the way things are going Salman Butt will be back in Pakistan colours soon. Don't think the PCB has the heart to keep him out if he keeps performing in domestic and surely the question is if Aamir can come back so can he. And with current state of affairs he may well be the partner required for Sharjeel at the top of the order.

My worst fear realised.
Butt is playing it smart. Even in t20 he is making nothing of front line bowlers and picking up his scoring rate against 4th and 5th bowlers. he is able to do that because of akmals and get away with it.

 

[JaDed]

So now we can take domestic T20's seriously Junaids?Should Aus and Eng start picking up their T20 batsmen for tests as well?

 

[Monsee]

I think if Salman performs consistently then Inzi will select him, more so Inzi has played with him, groomed him during his initial days, so he'd know the kind of player Salman is and if he feels he is still good enough then he should select him.

Guys there is no denying that Spot Fixing scandal was the worst thing to have hit Pakistan cricket, absolutely agree, but if Salman is really performing well I think you guys need to give him a chance, he is 32, and Misbah re-started his career at 33 in 2007... so it's not all over for Salman

Many people talk about his Strike rate, but i beg to disagree, Salman in fact plays according to the situation, he is not a mad slogger who'd slog when the RRR is 4 rpo, yes he is not a big hitter, but you do not always need big hitters to score at a brisk SR and you all know that.

He is absolutely one of the biggest bottlers around and throws his wicket away everytime he bogs down...his running is as bad as any I have seen times 10...don't even wanna talk about his fielding, oh God, Tanvir looks better!

The guy is a boundary man, like most Pak batsmen, you cut out his favorite shots and he will be a walking wicket after that

 

[Hawkeye]

Lol normally [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] won't even watch international ODIs but he is now eagerly following random T20 leagues in Afghanistan and Pakistan for the sake of Butt and Akmal.

I love how Junaids always rallies for the most controversial players in Pak line up (Butt, Amir, Asif, Akmal)

Junaids is the perfect puppet master. [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION]

Nothing wrong with that, street.

We all watch or do things for our favorites. I'm sure you don't give a damn about certain olympics sports but if your favorite player or countryman starts doing well there, you'd watch it.

[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] is no different.

I like the fact he closely watches the players he rates. Though, he wrongly rates Butt, but not all of us are perfect.

 

[boomboom6]

Umar should be boarding the plane to England for T20 match and then for UAE for LOIs against WI

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

Akaml is a very rare talent in Pak that can put Fast Bowlers in the stands. Other than Maybe Sharjeel we dont have any player who can hit a 6 off a fast bowler

Umar even if plays a brainless innings of 38 off 24 I would gladly take that over Misbah type players 50 off 83

Game is changing

 

[boomboom6]

No thank you. Do not need them.

then enjoy more utter embarrassment to come.

 

[Monsee]

Akaml is a very rare talent in Pak that can put Fast Bowlers in the stands. Other than Maybe Sharjeel we dont have any player who can hit a 6 off a fast bowler

Umar even if plays a brainless innings of 38 off 24 I would gladly take that over Misbah type players 50 off 83

Game is changing

New game is not about closing eyes and aim for stands every ball either...that is what most Pak batsmen do (including UA) with the exception of a few!

Look across the border and see how most of their batsmen are not into hitting 6's all the time...finding gaps and running hard (which UA cannot do due to the excess weight he has been carrying for a long time now) most of the time is what gets you good scores

 

[gazza619]

Good thing is he is only 26. Misbah led the side from 36-40. Akmal still has 10-12 years left.

12 more years of Akmal, thats a torcher


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[reversehook]

then enjoy more utter embarrassment to come.

that's ok, things will get better in due time. I would rather we go through 100's of new talents who may not pan out than these guys.

 

[waqar goraya]

I would like to see some more fire before bringing Umar Akmal back. He should be the first name in our T20 side but i think he should first spend some time in the middle at first class level to deserve a rebirth in longer versions. Umar can be very attractive to watch but he can also be pretty awful at times.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Get Akmal back in, no chance for Butt.

 

[Slog]

Lol so a guy who isn't watching international one days is following Afghanistan and Pakistan leagues.

Pakistan t20 league is missing 20 of the top players in the country btw so it's not exactly the top league so performance matters zilch

The national one day cup were Butt did well for WAPDA was again missing the top 25 players in the country who were in Asia cup/WT20 and A tour

Less said about the afghan league, the better

The only completion of note Salman Butt has played since his return is the Pakistan Cup which is the top players appearing. Butt average in 20s or so at a strike rate of 60s. That's his worth

And since when did Pakistan domestics become a great judge for batsmen anyway. Guys like Khalid Latif and Faisal Iqbal average in 40s and 50s

 

[waqar goraya]

I have looked at the score card and taking the pitch and match situation into consideration i would say that it was not a great knock by Butt.

 

[itsme]

Butt is worse than ahmed and azhar and even more selfish.
Umar is coming back in uae .

 

[cricketInsight]

What position has Akmal batted in this tournament?

 

[QalandarFan]

Salman Butt
Runs - 189
Ave Per Innings - 63
SR - 118

Kamran Akmal
Runs - 172
Ave Per Innings - 57
SR - 185

Umar Akmal
Runs - 114
Ave Per Innings - 38
SR - 190

Even Rafatullah is averaging 57 with a SR of 141 and the guy can barely hold a bat at international level. Salman is not the kind of player we need in our LOI, Akmal again is scoring runs at domestic level but doesn't do anything special at the top level. I say we try new youngsters and build a team for the future instead of trying TTF's over and over again!

 

[QalandarFan]

What position has Akmal batted in this tournament?

3 and 4

 

[Lupe]

Our next ODI captain and Mickey Arthur need to have a chat with him, and ask him honestly, whether he wants to abide by the rules set by Mickey Arthur or not. Such as working hard on his batting/fielding, not causing trouble in the team. If he doesn't its his loss, if he does, its our gain.

 

[Im Suds]

Make Umar captain and say this is his last chance at redemption .
Who knows a bit if responsibility may be the way for jnr

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

New game is not about closing eyes and aim for stands every ball either...that is what most Pak batsmen do (including UA) with the exception of a few!

Look across the border and see how most of their batsmen are not into hitting 6's all the time...finding gaps and running hard (which UA cannot do due to the excess weight he has been carrying for a long time now) most of the time is what gets you good scores

Thing is in last few Games we are rolling along with 4 or 5 down with last 7 to 8 overs left and we cant accelerate at all. We need someone who at least can play some big shots

Across the border most batsmen are positive anyways so no one needs to go all out to smack a few. We are on the bad side where no one is really caplable of playing positive and someone needs to come and up the anty

 

[yasir_shah_fan]

Eager to see Umar back in the LOI side. On merit he deserves to be there. Malik, Hafeez and Azhar all need to be kicked out.

My ideal batting line up:

Sharjeel
Umar
Haris (bhai theek hojaaa )
Babar
Sarfaraz
Maqsood/Rizwan/Yamin (somebody who can consistently play at a SR of 150)
Nawaz/Imad

This is nice. Like it however Pakistan needs Nawaz and Imad given the current demands of all rounders in high scoring LOI matches espcecially to extend the batting line up...

 

[Zaz]

I stopped reading when I saw riffat up there in terms of runs and avge...

 

[The_Odd_One]

Butt will be an upgrade over Azhar as an opener. Akmal will be an upgrade over Malik in the middle order.

 

[Zaz]

Butt will be an upgrade over Azhar as an opener. Akmal will be an upgrade over Malik in the middle order.

30year olds that are slightly better are no good to the team esp one who was a spot fixing excaptain, better to invest in a new guy with potential for the future rather than someone avge who has no future

 

[itsme]

What position has Akmal batted in this tournament?

3 in the first two but there weren't much runs left and 4 today around 7-8th overs i think.

 

[cricketInsight]

Let me remind folks:

After the world cup a lot of folks were saying Malik would be an upgrade to Akmal. Now exactly opposite sentiment exists. We fall in love with the player who is farther from the action.

Who knows, Hafeez's injury might be good for his career in the long term - we may fall in love with him again much earlier now.

 

[The_Odd_One]

30year olds that are slightly better are no good to the team esp one who was a spot fixing excaptain, better to invest in a new guy with potential for the future rather than someone avge who has no future

I do not want Butt in any team but if he is selected, I am sure he will do better than Azhar. He was a decent batsman in limited overs.

 

[hitthestump]

Salman Butt won't make the ODI team. We don't really need him when we have loads of other players who have his style.

Instead it seems obvious that Umar Akmal should come back and open the batting. I have no idea why this hasn't been tried before. He is a hitter and where better else to do this but when the field is up and the ball is hard. Plus if he gets going he can win a game for Pakistan singlehandedly. Aside from Sharjeel we have no other matchwinners with the bat, and it is not enough to expect one man to fire for Pakistan consistently. Let's face it nobody else is knocking on the door, and while we are languishing at no. 9 we have nothing to lose by giving Umar a license to play his shots.

Sharjeel
Akmal
Sarfraz (he should step up and lead from the front for now, that means batting at 3)
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Yamin
Wasim
Nawaz
Aamir
Sohail Khan
Imran Khan jnr.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

It has been a bad day today for two of the four exiles from the Pakistan national team. Until today they hadn't been dismissed and didn't even have batting averages.....

Sohail Khan removed Umar Akmal for 81 from 44 balls, which means that Umar Akmal now has an average of 114.00 in the National T20 Cup, following innings of 15*, 18* and now 81.

Further disaster struck just 4 balls later, with his teammate Salman Butt dismissed for 71, which rendered his average a paltry 189.00.

Butt's innings in this tournament have been 84*, 32* and now 71.

The average table now reads, in descending order:

Salman Butt 189.00
Umar Akmal 114.00
Fawad Khan 66.00
Rafatullah Mohmand 57.50

The bowlers today included Sohail Khan and Mir Hamza. In the last match they included Junaid Khan and Mohammad Irfan, while in the first game they included Rahat Ali and Zafar Gohar.

I will be interested to see what excuses are given for continuing to exclude the two most successful domestic batsmen. After all, Pakistan's limited overs batting is going so well this year......

I agree with you on U.Akmal but Salman Butt!!! Seriously!!! He is TTFs tbvh and he is always going to be a domestic bully. Personally I'd love to see Umar Akmal open or come at no.3 and get Pak to 60-70 odd in the 1st 10 overs. Him and Sharjeel would be a deadly combination.

 

[BabarAkmal_Fan]

Umar Akmal is a BEAST. Needs to play in the top 4 in ODIs. Even if he plays at 6 he'll score more runs than the likes of Sami, Azhar, Hafeez, Malik, etc

 

[proud_pakistani]

My worst fear realised.
Butt is playing it smart. Even in t20 he is making nothing of front line bowlers and picking up his scoring rate against 4th and 5th bowlers. he is able to do that because of akmals and get away with it.

Tbh with current state of things I would play Umar Akmal. Sami Aslam has got potential and I would keep him in mind but I want to give Maqsood another go and to improve balance of the team I'd bring Haris back. I'd play below against West Indies. Change arnd the all rounders for Aus /NZ series

Sharjeel Khan
Umar Akmal
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Sohaib Maqsood
Sarfraz Ahmed (c/wk)
Anwar Ali Khan (can be good lower order hitter)
Mohd Asghar
Mohd Aamir
Hasan Ali
Zafar Gohar

 

[Ellipsism]

Tbh with current state of things I would play Umar Akmal. Sami Aslam has got potential and I would keep him in mind but I want to give Maqsood another go and to improve balance of the team I'd bring Haris back. I'd play below against West Indies. Change arnd the all rounders for Aus /NZ series

Sharjeel Khan
Umar Akmal
Babar Azam
Haris Sohail
Sohaib Maqsood
Sarfraz Ahmed (c/wk)
Anwar Ali Khan (can be good lower order hitter)
Mohd Asghar
Mohd Aamir
Hasan Ali
Zafar Gohar

Anwar...

 

[Junaids]

Is there no way the PP admins can get [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] an autograph from the great Salman Butt (or even an email note)? He has to be his biggest fan on here.

Thanks, that's funny. I like it!

Any of you who read my comments last Saturday will know that these are my opinions:

1) UMAR AKMAL
- he is exactly what a modern ODI player is supposed to be.
- he has been moved up and down the batting order, even made to keep wicket. He just needs to be made the new ODI number 4 and given a long run there.
- I still think that he has the raw materials to succeed at Test level too. He was discarded at the age of 21 when he had an average of 36, entirely made outside Asia against the likes of Bond, Johnson, Anderson and Broad.
- I think that a sense of competition with his cousin Babar Akmal should make him slog less mindlessly.

2) SALMAN BUTT
- in my opinion, he is a Test specialist whose technique and style has no place in modern ODI or T20 cricket.
- given that your next major Test assignment is in Australia, where Salman Butt is Pakistan's Greatest Test Batsman of All Time, he should be the first batsman on the Test teamsheet from now until that series finishes in January. He has 8 Tests to open with Sami Aslam v West Indies, New Zealand and Australia to save or end his career.
- in my opinion he is batting selfishly in T20 cricket of late to assemble a huge average to force his way back into the team. Selfish openers in Tests are a good thing, not a bad thing - think of Geoff Boycott and Sunil Gavaskar. But they are a bad thing in 20 and 50 overs cricket.

 

[WC-Passion]

Thanks, that's funny. I like it!

Any of you who read my comments last Saturday will know that these are my opinions:

1) UMAR AKMAL
- he is exactly what a modern ODI player is supposed to be.
- he has been moved up and down the batting order, even made to keep wicket. He just needs to be made the new ODI number 4 and given a long run there.
- I still think that he has the raw materials to succeed at Test level too. He was discarded at the age of 21 when he had an average of 36, entirely made outside Asia against the likes of Bond, Johnson, Anderson and Broad.
- I think that a sense of competition with his cousin Babar Akmal should make him slog less mindlessly.

2) SALMAN BUTT
- in my opinion, he is a Test specialist whose technique and style has no place in modern ODI or T20 cricket.
- given that your next major Test assignment is in Australia, where Salman Butt is Pakistan's Greatest Test Batsman of All Time, he should be the first batsman on the Test teamsheet from now until that series finishes in January. He has 8 Tests to open with Sami Aslam v West Indies, New Zealand and Australia to save or end his career.
- in my opinion he is batting selfishly in T20 cricket of late to assemble a huge average to force his way back into the team. Selfish openers in Tests are a good thing, not a bad thing - think of Geoff Boycott and Sunil Gavaskar. But they are a bad thing in 20 and 50 overs cricket.

Agreed, but he will fail in Australia. No way is he surviving there. In the only decent domestic tournament he's played in, [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] mentioned he averaged 20 with a SR of 60. IIRC, it was a 40 over tournament when there was no series going on. Umar Akmal at one point had the same score as Salman, but used 15 balls less, which just shows how selfish he is.

 

[proud_pakistani]

Anwar...

Anwar because he is the only decent hitting lower order batsman I have seen. I have not seen Amad Butt or any of the newer guys to recommend them. If they are providing more than Anwar sure. But I am picking Anwar more for his batting aspect than the bowling. Also him and Haris need to divide the other 10
overs between them which is not a bad risk.

 

[Slog]

Thanks, that's funny. I like it!

Any of you who read my comments last Saturday will know that these are my opinions:

1) UMAR AKMAL
- he is exactly what a modern ODI player is supposed to be.
- he has been moved up and down the batting order, even made to keep wicket. He just needs to be made the new ODI number 4 and given a long run there.
- I still think that he has the raw materials to succeed at Test level too. He was discarded at the age of 21 when he had an average of 36, entirely made outside Asia against the likes of Bond, Johnson, Anderson and Broad.
- I think that a sense of competition with his cousin Babar Akmal should make him slog less mindlessly.

2) SALMAN BUTT
- in my opinion, he is a Test specialist whose technique and style has no place in modern ODI or T20 cricket.
- given that your next major Test assignment is in Australia, where Salman Butt is Pakistan's Greatest Test Batsman of All Time, he should be the first batsman on the Test teamsheet from now until that series finishes in January. He has 8 Tests to open with Sami Aslam v West Indies, New Zealand and Australia to save or end his career.
- in my opinion he is batting selfishly in T20 cricket of late to assemble a huge average to force his way back into the team. Selfish openers in Tests are a good thing, not a bad thing - think of Geoff Boycott and Sunil Gavaskar. But they are a bad thing in 20 and 50 overs cricket.

A lie

Asif Iqbal, Ijaz Ahmed, Zaheer Abbas and Saeed Anwar all have much superior records there

 

[Junaids]

A lie

Asif Iqbal, Ijaz Ahmed, Zaheer Abbas and Saeed Anwar all have much superior records there

No, they don't, I did a thread on this several months ago.

 

[Junaids]

Pakistan all-time Test batting records in Australia (minimum requirement 500 runs)

Zaheer Abbas: 1097 runs in 15 Tests @ 40.62 BUT this includes a series against Australia C during World Series Cricket. In reality, he averaged less than 25 in 2 of his 5 series in Australia.

Asif Iqbal: 681 runs in 9 Tests @ 45.40 BUT this includes a series against Australia C during World Series Cricket. His real record is 459 runs in 7 Tests @ 38.25.

Ijaz Ahmed: 579 runs in 8 Tests @ 41.35, with 3 centuries and 1 fifty.

Saeed Anwar: 282 runs in 3 Tests @ 47.00, with 1 century and 2 fifties. But he only scored 282 runs, so doesn't meet the threshold.

Salman Butt: 505 runs in 6 Tests @ 42.08, with 2 centuries, 2 fifties

Younis Khan: 259 runs in 3 Tests @ 43.16, 0 centuries, 1 fifty.

It's possible - even likely - that Saeed Anwar might have become the Pakistan GOAT batsman in Australia. But he only played 1 series and didn't reach even 300 runs scored in Australia.

Younis Khan has the chance to do so, but at this stage he's only ever made 1 fifty in Australia.