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Umar Akmal : "In the coming months and years everyone will see a more mature Umar Akmal"

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[MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]
 
He needs to put runs on the board on a regular basis, not once in a blue moon.

Let's hope it's not another false dawn.
 
Umar playing well in domestics. Should select him for next series. We need dynamic batters instead of tuk tuks like Usman.
 
He has about a two year period to make a spot for himself otherwise it'll be curtains once the upcoming batsmen debut.
 
He needs to average 50 + for the next 2 seasons without opening his mouth to even warrant a consideration!

One innings, and people are like bring him back! For Gods Sake!
 
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Video of his 100 definitely looked more fit the stroke play was good aswell.
 
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In UAE he is capable of smashing bowlers once he gets set and a double hundred at 70+ strike rate is possible in test cricket with his scoring ability.
 
Cric1234 said:
In UAE he is capable of smashing bowlers once he gets set and a double hundred at 70+ strike rate is possible in test cricket with his scoring ability.
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he's not capable of any of that. If he was he would have done it regularly by now. He is a mentally weak tuller from the pind who got lucky. Useless player with no real talent for the international game. e should retire and play T20 leagues and makes some cash before his belly gets any bigger.
 
I think we destroyed what could have been a decent test career by trying to sculpt him as an ODI specialist. His List-A stats were always mediocre, but during the same period he has maintained a healthy FC record. He still has time. We should try him in tests, and forget about his inclusion in ODIs for at least two years.
 
asfandyar said:
I think we destroyed what could have been a decent test career by trying to sculpt him as an ODI specialist. His List-A stats were always mediocre, but during the same period he has maintained a healthy FC record. He still has time. We should try him in tests, and forget about his inclusion in ODIs for at least two years.
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His F/C stats are better than his List A stats, but he has exhibited the characteristics of a player who is a white ball specialist. He has always looked suspect defensively and has rarely looked capable of playing long innings. However, it is possible for an aggressive batsman to be better in Tests, e.g. Sehwag.

I somewhat agree that getting axed from the Test team trigger his decline. He has been in free fall since 2011. He was dropped more due to his mode of dismissals than the lack of scores. I remember him going for an ugly slog against South Africa in Abu Dhabi when he was only on 3, and the look on Misbah's face in the pavilion said it all.

Nonetheless, people are going overboard. His career is far from over; he has played around 200 international games and he still is in his 20's only, he is not going to be discarded for good yet. I think he is one good PSL away from returning to the LOI squad, but a Test recall looks to be a couple of years away.
 
Guldozer and Rehman still going at it :)) were taken apart though lmao

Umar has lost a bit of weight, he's been doing a bit of boxing and you tend to lose fat pretty quick. Needs to keep at it and continue to score runs consistently and forget about being a diva but an outburst is always around the corner:uakmal:uakmal the fella just can't help himself, he gets cranky too easily
 
It's a shame that it took competition in the team and tough love from Mickey Arthur to force him to get his act together after wasting almost a decade in the Pakistan team.
 
Can we please stop with these Akmal threads? The guy is a complete dud against pace and spin. So annoying. He's failed for almost 8 years now, just let go.
 
Savak said:
It's a shame that it took competition in the team and tough love from Mickey Arthur to force him to get his act together after wasting almost a decade in the Pakistan team.
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Nobody else was able to get him to wake up. He needed someone who was going to be hard on him. If the stupid public statements and harassment of PCB officials is done, then all he needs to do is perform on the field and show he's turned the corner. We play players into their mid-30s here, if Umar Akmal finally has it all figured out then perhaps with a little humility and a desire to do well he will get another chance.
 
he'll do a Malik and play for our T20 team when he is 38. Then the youngsters who will watch him will call him a legend and claim he is a seasoned professional who youngsters should look up to. lol
 
Half those shots would be going to fielders hands in international cricket
 
Rayyman said:
Umar playing well in domestics. Should select him for next series. We need dynamic batters instead of tuk tuks like Usman.
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Salahuddin blows Akmal out of the water when it comes to FC centuries and is far more deserving of a Test place.

I'd take Salahuddin's boring but consistent century making skills over Akmal's once in a blue moon "dynamic innings" any day.
 
What about a "quieter" Akmal? Such kind of repeated statements only show that he hasn't matured. Do the talking on the pitch
 
Yet another failure in the t20 cup for Umar Akmal. :uakmal
 
His fitness and physique looked like the Umar Akmal of 2009-2012. Definately a lot leaner than he has been in the last 2-3 years.
 
If only Umar Akmal had a big brother as wise as Hasan Ali's big brother. I have seen many interviews of Hasan Ali and he always praises and thanks his big brother for the encouragement, support and lessons.

Umar has six brothers but none is able to help him.
 
You dont have to announce it in a loud speaker for folks to observe that. Make your bat talk.
 
Umer looks a lot slimmer and has scored a few runs recently as well, is he finally knuckling down ? [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION]

Obviously a long road back but maybe there's a minor improvement in his attitude which would be a huge breakthrough in itself lol
 
So, watched the scorecard, could not believe what was written in Umar's runs row. Refreshed the button , it was indeed a 148. :))

Two centuries in 2 first class games for him.
 
We all know Umar Akmal is capable of playing innings like this, heck he could do this against an ATG bowling attack but then the next day could get a golden duck against club cricketers. No one denies his ability, it's his consistency, if he can carry on performing following this amazing innings he can be back in the Pakistan team.
 
hadi123 said:
We all know Umar Akmal is capable of playing innings like this, heck he could do this against an ATG bowling attack but then the next day could get a golden duck against club cricketers. No one denies his ability, it's his consistency, if he can carry on performing following this amazing innings he can be back in the Pakistan team.
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He looked very capable of playing quality knocks, early in his career. But lately he has been consistently quite poor.
His poor fitness was also a factor for his consistently poor performances. He used to huff and puff after crossing 10 runs and that effected his already poor concentration level too.
The other question mark has always been on his temperament.
Scoring long innings consistently will prove his temperament and fitness ; and that can pave the way for his return.
But can the human nature change ? His on field and off field behavior, fights with wardens and coaches suggest that he is by nature a reckless character. I know people behave differently in different groups but he has never shown any sign of sensibility.
 
Umar Akmal’s biggest fan [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION] bhai explain his innings today :yk2
 
Good for him he scored a century!He still has 2 games left would love to see him scoring another century or two.
 
babajee said:
Umar Akmal’s biggest fan [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION] bhai explain his innings today :yk2
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I know people take me as a blind Akmal hater :ma but people forget that he's essentially been frustrating us since 2011 (It's 2017 now bro - That's more than half a decade of disappointments after disappointments)

Truth be told I haven't seen his innings highlights as of yet, I will later though, however, what's clearly apparent is that Umar Akmal basically needed a change in his surrondings & the people that he associated himself with. If you look at the UBL lineup their team is bascially hardworking XI (to put in a nutshell)

Shan Masood
Umer Siddiq
Hammad Azam
Saad Ali
Sohail Khan
Younis Khan
Mir Hamza

Blokes that aren't necessarily that much gifted but are prepared to put in the hard yards while giving 110% at training and on the field. This is what, I believe, is basically rubbing off on Umar & the results are there for all to see. If I was his manager, PR agent or anybody who would be close to him I would just make sure that this is the type of company Umar keeps holding onto rather than reverting back the Model Town Gang which literally helped him regress from one of the most promising batsmen of our country to a #6 fat slogger :facepalm:

Also Umar needs to keep working hard, pile on the runs for atleast 2 seasons & then hopefully make a successful return to International cricket in all forms of the game. His ability to bat (not gonna use the word talent here) was never in question, it was his work ethic, his drive and his lack of will to succeed that always pulled him back and hindered him to achieve that potential of his.

For what it's worth Younis Khan should take leadership of this mentoring role (one of the most mentally tough people Pakistan has ever produced at the International stage) and guide Umar through this while making sure that he stays on point. A full flowing, in form Umar is basically 5x (Babar and Haris) combined! That's how good he is when on song.
 
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He needs to start WKeeping in shorter format, preferably from PSL. Umar should have changed his team for NT20C and play for a team where he would have kept & batted in top 3. Kamran is too old, but if Sarfraz continues his form with bat/gloves and Umar starts keeping, selection matters should become interesting.
 
MMHS said:
He needs to start WKeeping in shorter format, preferably from PSL. Umar should have changed his team for NT20C and play for a team where he would have kept & batted in top 3. Kamran is too old, but if Sarfraz continues his form with bat/gloves and Umar starts keeping, selection matters should become interesting.
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No, selection matters really won't become interesting

Umar can't even dream of challenging Sarfraz's selection in any format

One is a guy who held 2 press conferences to challenge the head coach. The other is the CT winning captain
 
MMHS said:
He needs to start WKeeping in shorter format, preferably from PSL. Umar should have changed his team for NT20C and play for a team where he would have kept & batted in top 3. Kamran is too old, but if Sarfraz continues his form with bat/gloves and Umar starts keeping, selection matters should become interesting.
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Disagree on this strongly! Umar all his life has never been a keeper (either domestically and or otherwise). He started keeping in Internationals because apparently Sarfraz hadn't established himself as a batsmen and Adnan was literally a tailender in testing conditions. Out of the three Akmals Kamran and Adnan are actual keepers while Umar is a proper Middle order bat - That's about it.

Also one of the reasons why I believe Umar lost his batting ability was because for a while we started thinking of him as a replacement to his elder brother and this is where it got to his head and he faulted in his primary skill.

For what its worth, I would want Umar to keep away from Keeping (as far as possible) and only considering of himself as only a batsman!
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Disagree on this strongly! Umar all his life has never been a keeper (either domestically and or otherwise). He started keeping in Internationals because apparently Sarfraz hadn't established himself as a batsmen and Adnan was literally a tailender in testing conditions. Out of the three Akmals Kamran and Adnan are actual keepers while Umar is a proper Middle order bat - That's about it.

Also one of the reasons why I believe Umar lost his batting ability was because for a while we started thinking of him as a replacement to his elder brother and this is where it got to his head and he faulted in his primary skill.

For what its worth, I would want Umar to keep away from Keeping (as far as possible) and only considering of himself as only a batsman!
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I think, he was U19 WK and started Keeping for PAK before 2011 WC (can't recall the match)

His ODI career tells, stats of 37.22/92.54 for 37 matches and he has 13 stumpings as WK. His batting stats are better than his over all stats and that stumping figure suggests he wasn't dodo with gloves. In between, guy drank lots of water, which resulted into 12-15 KG extra fat, otherwise under Rixon, his Keeping would have been improving, at least better that what specialist WK Srafraz is doing after 2 years under Rixon (don't take it as a dig at Sarfraz, but the guy is really struggling as WK, which is affecting his batting as well).

Umar had absolutely no issues for WK in T20 or ODI. In T20, WK's role is just about similar like 1st baseman of baseball, while in ODI it's manageable if he could keep his body wight. He was keeping in CPL, and he would have been keeping in Gobal T20 (Or BPL) as well, because that gives each of his T20 teams a perfect balance. Today Sarfraz is standing at his position, one of the main reasons is a stupidity (of a crook mind) by Umar - 4 months before WC, he complained about WKeeping, when PCB had invested prior 2/3 years behind his keeping. ONLY, because the crooked guy wanted his brother in WC squad - had Sarfraz not opened against AUS successfully, Kamran was destined to travel to AUS.

That was Umar's biggest fault - trying politics, now paying for it; otherwise this Azhar clone PAK ODI side, a semi fit Umar should have been one of the MVPs.
 
Thanks but no thanks. Umar should keep his distance from wicketkeeping. Even if Sarfraz gets horribly out of touch he needs to be in the T20 side for his captaincy role. If we want a mediocre wicketkeeper-batsman then we will get plenty, Umar should concentrate only on his batting. This is what team Pakistan wants.
If anything we want a proper test class batsman from Umar Akmal. We lost two test matches to a very mediocre SL side because of dearth of quality batsman-ship.
If he sorts himself out he can be a class act in test cricket.
 
Duck for Umar Akmal. Like I said, needs to be more consistent.
 
Let’s see what he does by playing consistently at number 3 in this trophy.
One innings is not enough.
 
Seems like he has stopped drinking water
82 today in Departmental ODI Cup.
Farhat and him have been good in this tournament :salute
 
UN talkz said:
Seems like he has stopped drinking water
82 today in Departmental ODI Cup.
Farhat and him have been good in this tournament :salute
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Good to see him being more consistent. Normally he gets a good score then flops in the next match but he done good last match as well before today. Needs to finish this tournament as one of the highest run scorers if he wants a recall.
 
The same names, the same tried and tested failures scoring runs in domestic cricket.

Worrying times.
 
Saj said:
The same names, the same tried and tested failures scoring runs in domestic cricket.

Worrying times.
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Umar Akmal is not a tried and test failure as a top order batsman if you are talking about him.
 
Mobashir said:
Umar Akmal is not a tried and test failure as a top order batsman if you are talking about him.
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How many chances has he had?
How many controversies has he been involved in?
How many fitness tests has he failed?
How many times has he said he's a changed man?
 
Saj said:
How many chances has he had?
How many controversies has he been involved in?
How many fitness tests has he failed?
How many times has he said he's a changed man?
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Domestic Cricket performance is what we need to look at when it comes to recalling players. Being dropped from the team is good for Akmal, he got the message loud and clear that he will no longer be given a free ride in the team just on the basis of potential alone and if he wants to play in the team and have a long term career he will need to fit in the team culture and take into the bare minimum fitness standards demanded in modern cricket.

You can see from his twitter and instagram pages that this has pushed him to now work hard to earn his place back in the team.
 
Saj said:
The same names, the same tried and tested failures scoring runs in domestic cricket.

Worrying times.
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I actually think this isn't such a problem anymore. It used to be the case that the likes of Umer Akmal would perform in domestic cricket, get selected for the national team and then fail. Now we have a whole range of fantastic new players come through which means that the likes of Umer Akmal are not just going to walk into the team - we won the whole Champions Trophy without players like him.

In odis, we now have Fakhar, Baber, Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan, Faheem Ashraf, Ruman Rees, Imad, Nawaz, Mohammed Amir, Usman Khan Shinwari, Junaid Khan. In addition, we have Azhar Ali who is doing a great job. Even Shoaib Malik is doing well. We have recent centurians like Imam-ul-haq sitting on the bench. Mashallah!

In tests, whilst we have lost giants in Younus and Misbah, we have very promising youngsters such as Harris Sohail, Usman Salihudin and Baber Azam. They are backed by top players like Azhar, Asad and Yasir Shah. If we could just get Fawad Alam selected and the likes of Shan Masood dropped, I would be completley satisfied.

After a very long time, I feel actually quite happy about the state of Pakistani cricket, which mashallah is healthy. We no longer look to the Akmals of this world for our runs!
 
Savak said:
Domestic Cricket performance is what we need to look at when it comes to recalling players. Being dropped from the team is good for Akmal, he got the message loud and clear that he will no longer be given a free ride in the team just on the basis of potential alone and if he wants to play in the team and have a long term career he will need to fit in the team culture and take into the bare minimum fitness standards demanded in modern cricket.

You can see from his twitter and instagram pages that this has pushed him to now work hard to earn his place back in the team.
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Being dropped again and again and again before made no difference. I don't think it will make any difference in future either.

He's given interviews before to media including myself saying he's more mature and a changed man - a short while later there is some controversy.
 
Saj said:
Being dropped again and again and again before made no difference. I don't think it will make any difference in future either.

He's given interviews before to media including myself saying he's more mature and a changed man - a short while later there is some controversy.
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Let's see if there are any more controversies.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Umar Akmal 124 off 87 balls with 19 fours and 4 sixes as UBL chase down 294...

:aag
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Incredible. Also against one of the better bowling line ups in this tournament, considering the VERY best Pakistan bowlers are in NZ/injured right now.
 
Wow really happy to see him performing like this. He is really loving no. 3 position it seems.He should be called for nz t20is.
 
He is doing well so far

Deserves his chance along with Talat Hussain

Time to kick out Malik and Hafeez in T20 team
 
Must akmal playing like he was in 2009/2012. I beg Pakistan and PCB to use some logic and being him back for one day and t20 and not t20, this is where his game was destroyed when the worst coaches in Waqar and Dave made him into a last two over back. He needs to play in top 5 as a pure batsman.
 
Excellent knock but I'd wait until the end of PSL before deciding whether he merits a comeback.

He needs to score in tournament after tournament and prove his fitness before we can say he's turned a corner. We get too excited by one or two innings.
 
Being a Qalandars fan good to see him in good form and also worried that he has taken only 2 catches in last 4 matches behind the stumps. He is our prime keeper in PSL and will be anticipating the likes of Naraine, Yasir, Mustafiz and Mclaghlen.
 
Predict the next controversy he will be involved in:

So far we've had:

Traffic incidents
Arrested by police
Being in the wrong house at the wrong time
Trouble at a drama show
 
Saj said:
Predict the next controversy he will be involved in:

So far we've had:

Traffic incidents
Arrested by police
Being in the wrong house at the wrong time
Trouble at a drama show
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I can't say it for obvious reasons. :uakmal
 
Failed today in the final. Started this tournament well but form fell away over the last few matches.
 
Last 4 matches, averaged 14.25 in the Departmental Cup. Had an ordinary Quaid e Azam Trophy season also with UBL. His failure though helped other players in his team like Saad Ali to come in the forefront and steer the team to victory.
 
Hamstead_joy said:
Last 4 matches, averaged 14.25 in the Departmental Cup. Had an ordinary Quaid e Azam Trophy season also with UBL. His failure though helped other players in his team like Saad Ali to come in the forefront and steer the team to victory.
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Yet half of the people think he’s our saviour and not realising he’s a tried and tested failure. I really don’t understand the obsession some fans have with this guy. It’s 2018 Guys, get over him.
 
adzzy786 said:
Yet half of the people think he’s our saviour and not realising he’s a tried and tested failure. I really don’t understand the obsession some fans have with this guy. It’s 2018 Guys, get over him.
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Well his fans matter as most of them are in the selection committee trying their best to get him back. He has been keeping for UBL in the domestic circuit as his batting performance has not improved. Won't be surprised if he is pushed back in the team as the keeping alternative.
 
Lahore Region Blues 288-8 in 50 overs: (Muhammad Saad 72, 106 balls, 4x4s, Umar Akmal 64, 45 balls, 10x4s, 1x6, Sami Aslam 38, 54 balls, 4x4s, Salman Ali Agha 28, 2x4s, 1x6, Khalid Usman 20*, 11 balls, 2x4s, Danish Aziz 3-54, Zia-ul-Haq 2-66)

Karachi Region White 211-10 in 43.3 overs: (Akbar-ur-Rehman 97, 104 balls, 12x4s, Danish Aziz 38, 38 balls, 1x4, 3x6s, Qaiser Ashraf 4-34, Bilawal Iqbal 3-33, Khalid Usman 3-62)

Result: Lahore Region Blues won by 77 runs
 
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I actually feel sorry for him. Cant blame him solely for the way he ended up. Sometimes i feel if he was across the border he would have been better managed and could have worked out all his off side drama and kinks. The indian side has a system and probably 100's of folks coaching,mentoring on the sidelines. The pcb on the other hand instead of giving him guidance and giving him the help that he needs, i feel just didn't do him justice.
 
Snak3eye5 said:
I actually feel sorry for him. Cant blame him solely for the way he ended up. Sometimes i feel if he was across the border he would have been better managed and could have worked out all his off side drama and kinks. The indian side has a system and probably 100's of folks coaching,mentoring on the sidelines. The pcb on the other hand instead of giving him guidance and giving him the help that he needs, i feel just didn't do him justice.
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No. He is childish, immature and spoilt. Umar Akmal would never have succeeded in any other country aswell. Pakistan is the only country where is even relevant, would have been thrown out from other cricket systems. I dont like Ahmed Shehzad at all, but Shehzad has a much better attitude towards his cricket as compared to Umar.
 
I hope Akmal's attitude has improved but I'm not sure what he has been like in the domestic circuit. Does he still miss training sessions and not respect management?

As a batsman, Akmal is one of the most talented I saw when he first debuted. He good strike the ball, play it through spaces and rotate the strike but he didnt work on his fitness and let the hype get to him. It must also be noted that the management let him down, playing him at almost every position available, rather than letting him settle into one role.

I think, if he can work on his fitness and attitude, he could be integral to the modern side. I would personally see him playing at 4, just below Zaman, second opener and Babar. With Malik/Sarfraz/Imad being below, it forms a good bridge between the middle and the lower order.

Let's see.
 
barah_admi said:
I hope Akmal's attitude has improved but I'm not sure what he has been like in the domestic circuit. Does he still miss training sessions and not respect management?

As a batsman, Akmal is one of the most talented I saw when he first debuted. He good strike the ball, play it through spaces and rotate the strike but he didnt work on his fitness and let the hype get to him. It must also be noted that the management let him down, playing him at almost every position available, rather than letting him settle into one role.

I think, if he can work on his fitness and attitude, he could be integral to the modern side. I would personally see him playing at 4, just below Zaman, second opener and Babar. With Malik/Sarfraz/Imad being below, it forms a good bridge between the middle and the lower order.

Let's see.
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Imran Nazir was arguably one of the most talented batsman to ever come out of Pakistan. He had similar issues to Umar Akmal, temperament and mentally just not right. Umar Akmal will have a similar rubbish career as Nazir. Pakistan cricket should move on from Umar Akmal in my opinion.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Imran Nazir was arguably one of the most talented batsman to ever come out of Pakistan. He had similar issues to Umar Akmal, temperament and mentally just not right. Umar Akmal will have a similar rubbish career as Nazir. Pakistan cricket should move on from Umar Akmal in my opinion.
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Pakistan cricket is still persisting with garbage players like Asad Shafiq and Shan Masood, how come Umar Akmal can't play in this team? UA is a far superior than them but unfortunately the captain loves parchis.
 
hailian said:
Pakistan cricket is still persisting with garbage players like Asad Shafiq and Shan Masood, how come Umar Akmal can't play in this team? UA is a far superior than them but unfortunately the captain loves parchis.
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Asad Shafiq has a much higher ceiling than UA, and he has few very good performances overseas. No comparison to someone who has temperament issues even in test cricket and simply doesn't learn from his mistakes.

Shan Masood is an opener and not in direct competition with UA.

UA has found a way into the Pakistan team inspite of not performing aswell.
 
He should be in the T20 team, regardless of whether he has matured or not. An immature Umar is a better T20 batsman than most of our mature options.
 
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