Umar Akmal - The most talented Pakistani batsman of the last decade?

[TalentSpotterPk]

No, can't remember. It was something like "who is the best young batsman"?

You know you , me , axl & Aman had a debate regarding Umar Akmal in that thread. It was in last 3 months.

It was a 4,5 years old thread and opening post had that question mentioning 6,7 players.

 

[ChachaCricket]

You know you , me , axl & Aman had a debate regarding Umar Akmal in that thread. It was in last 3 months.

It was a 4,5 years old thread and opening post had that question mentioning 6,7 players.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?136653-Best-Young-Batsman-in-the-World/page4

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Make him open and you'll see a lot more of these innings.

Quality pacers will swing the new ball first 3,4 overs in Bangladesh & India.

Umar Akmal is our main T20 batsman. We cannot afford to lose him in first 4 overs.

For me he should play at 3 or number 4 in Odi and T20i cricket for Pakistan and he shuld bat alongside Babar Azam.

 

[ChachaCricket]

Quality pacers will swing the new ball first 3,4 overs in Bangladesh & India.

Umar Akmal is our main T20 batsman. We cannot afford to lose him in first 4 overs.

For me he should play at 3 or number 4 in Odi and T20i cricket for Pakistan and he shuld bat alongside Babar Azam.

Swing doesn't trouble him.

 

[Hawkeye]

Quality pacers will swing the new ball first 3,4 overs in Bangladesh & India.

Umar Akmal is our main T20 batsman. We cannot afford to lose him in first 4 overs.

For me he should play at 3 or number 4 in Odi and T20i cricket for Pakistan and he shuld bat alongside Babar Azam.

It's a stupid idea to move your best 3/4/five batsman to open. Just to satisfy your wild delusions.

Agree with you.

He's a top order batsman but not an opener.

 

[Suleiman]

Prefers to get in vs the pacers rather than spinners which is why everyone wants him to open. Was plumb lbw today earlier to spin.

Once he finds he is comfortable vs the pacers then that confidence goes into his game vs spinners too.

But this will just be a PP fantasy. However a stint at 3 is beginning to look realistic.

 

[cricfan14]

It's a stupid idea to move your best 3/4/five batsman to open. Just to satisfy your wild delusions.

Agree with you.

He's a top order batsman but not an opener.

He also seems to be himself wanting to bat at 3. He's wanted it so badly and so vocally, so give it to him and see how he does.

If he succeeds, fantastic for Pakistan cricket. If he fails, he'll only have himself to blame.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

'Talented' yes, but he is an Akmal

 

[cricfan14]

Also in true Akmal form he had to reference his batting position in the post match interview

 

[waqar goraya]

I have been one of his great supporters at PP. I don't think any one else has such stroke making ability in Pakistan but their is still a question mark over his temperament and ability to survive a good spell of bowling. When it comes to putting bad balls away, there is none better than him but he has to prove that he can stuck in there against 5-7 over good bowling spell.

One great deficiency in his batting besides impetuousness is his inability to negotiate quality leg spin.

 

[sarfarazrules]

I was ridiculed on previous posts when I mentioned U.Akmal should be batting at the top order (open or number 3).

He has always been a fine player of pace. His weakness is spin which why he cannot bat down the order.

It's disturbing too see so many clueless so called Pakistan fans like "the KING" who think he's overrated.

Don't judge his temperament until he bats in the right position, and today was evident of that.

Just shows Waqar is the one who's ruining his career.

 

[Seamer]

I think this should be our top batting order:

1. Hafeez
2. Sami Aslam
3. Umar Akmal
4. Babar Azam
5. Haris Sohail
6. Malik
7. Sarfaraz Ahmed

 

[ataullah]

I think this should be our top batting order:

1. Hafeez
2. Sami Aslam
3. Umar Akmal
4. Babar Azam
5. Haris Sohail
6. Malik
7. Sarfaraz Ahmed

Change sami for fakhar zaman and I agree. Sami aslam isn't ready yet

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

I think this should be our top batting order:

1. Hafeez
2. Sami Aslam
3. Umar Akmal
4. Babar Azam
5. Haris Sohail
6. Malik
7. Sarfaraz Ahmed

Change sami for fakhar zaman and I agree. Sami aslam isn't ready yet

I agree with ataullah.

And until Haris is not there play Imad or Nawaz at his place.

 

[UpInTheAir]

Very disrespectful from Umar. He shouldn't have hit his team mates, Gul and Babar for boundaries. This will only create dressing room tension. Players should have mutual respect for their national side team mates.

Sent from pone

 

[GrandMaster]

Most Talented
Most Inconsistent
Most Indisciplined

 

[Mahmood101]

Very disrespectful from Umar. He shouldn't have hit his team mates, Gul and Babar for boundaries. This will only create dressing room tension. Players should have mutual respect for their national side team mates.

Sent from pone

Agreed he should respect his seniors, waqar and misbah were right he has a bad attitude

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[GrandMaster]

Very disrespectful from Umar. He shouldn't have hit his team mates, Gul and Babar for boundaries. This will only create dressing room tension. Players should have mutual respect for their national side team mates.

Sent from pone

He is not playing gully cricket. He is playing for a franchise at an Internation event who pay him to win matches.

 

[Abdul]

He is not playing gully cricket. He is playing for a franchise at an Internation event who pay him to win matches.

He was obviously being sarcastic!

 

[WC-Passion]

Very disrespectful from Umar. He shouldn't have hit his team mates, Gul and Babar for boundaries. This will only create dressing room tension. Players should have mutual respect for their national side team mates.

Sent from pone

Deserves another match ban. His lack of discipline and respect angers me.

 

[savecricket]

Most talented but also up there and when I say up there, there are a large number of current Pak cricketers all challenging hard for the top spot but UA is probably out in the lead alongside Umar Gul for most Brainless!
In world cricket today you have Alistair Cook, George Baily and various others who don't have raw talent but they have the ability to maximise their limited talent which equates to way more cricketing/sporting ability than UA will sadly ever posses.
UA has proven he doesn't have what it takes to play international cricket, lets leave him alone and invest in better potential.
Makes me mad but I've come to terms with the cold hard fact that UA is not professional cricketing/sporting material

 

[dauntless]

He is definitely more talented than any other batsman in pak but he needs to sort out problems like playing leg spin left off spin and bouncers.he is decent against swing bowling

 

[Ab Fan]

Delivering performance up to the potential is itself a talent.Now that is something which Akmal lacks.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Thank you Umar Akmal for those breathtaking knocks.

Well done boy.

Remain grounded and build on from here.

Team Pakistan needs you firing in all formats.
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] you are correct wrt Umar Akmal talent.

 

[Hawkeye]

Thank you Umar Akmal for those breathtaking knocks.

Well done boy.

Remain grounded and build on from here.

Team Pakistan needs you firing in all formats.

[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] you are correct wrt Umar Akmal talent.

Always knew it bro.

Umar Amin will redeem himself as well. Just wait and watch.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Always knew it bro.

Umar Amin will redeem himself as well. Just wait and watch.

Yes and among young batsman I expect only Asif Ali, Umar Amin & Babar Azam getting selected for next PSL whereas all other youngsters will have to perform in local T20 tournament to get picked again.

After many years Umar Amin was second highest scorer in first class season this year placed at number 2 with 10 , 15 runs short of Top scorer Asif Zakir.

If he performs against England Lions and county teams in England for Pakistan A than he may get picked for Pakistan Test squad for England.

Remember for England test tour we select 18 to 21 players as per our previous tours. So Umar Amin & Umar Akmal may get picked for Pakistan test squad of 19 or 20 players. They must score for Pakistan A in England.

 

[jib13673]

No allrounder better than him in pak ODI or T20 team who can bowl 10 overs averagely economical and can win matches with hard hitting batting. Even if these hits comes once in a while.

I am from India. But this was very neutral comment.

One more this pakistan cricket board dont know to use Umer akmals tallent.

Also i dont know why people still question about Mohammed hafeez place in team.

They are few settled and well established players in team. Otherwise all are Maqsood and Rizwan typle players. - See more at: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...i-retire-after-WT20-2016#sthash.7BKquAML.dpuf

 

[in_cutter]

Time to kick him out for good. I was willing to give him a chance. These guys don't play for their country but for their ego's. Enough is enough.

 

[Hawkeye]

One of the boys I kept backing, and it's turning out to be true.

The best LOI bat in Pakistan right now. Should NEVER be dropped, even if going through a bad patch.

Heck, he averages more than MOST of our players and has a strike rate that's still above all of them. A gem, even when he's at his worst.

 

[The_KING]

Rubbish player. Hopefully he is never seen in green colours again. I can't stand him.

 

[MRSN]

lol at people who thought Baber,Rizwan Even Sarfraz are dynamic replacements of Umar Akmal in LOI. If you HAVE to score at 5+ run rate you will see Sarfraz struggling. He is a good anchor at best but not a dynamic. Baber and Rizwan are same. Umar Akmal is the only one capable of striking big. He should be presisted with. He is the only one proper batsman who can play big shots too not legside hacks. Just need to show patience with him.

 

[BabarAkmal_Fan]

Wether you like him or not, we NEED him.

 

[Hawkeye]

Plays his first match in Australia on this tour.

Goes on to score 54, at a strike rate of ~139.

Highest strike rates for batsmen who scored:

1. Sharjeel Khan: 62 at 158
2. Umar Akmal 54 at 138
3. Babar Azam 98 at 86
4. Malik 49 at 81.

What does it show?

It's clear that the only "true" modern batsmen in whole Pakistan are Sharjeel Khan and Umar Akmal.

Stays out of the team for a long time and makes impact in his first match.

 

[street cricketer]

Nowhere near talented as Shobby.

 

[muqarrab]

No one doubts his talent, but talent alone isn't enough for performance. He lacks application and importantly DRIVE.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Wouldn't call him the most talented batsman of the last decade. It is Babar Azam hands down. Everyone's been talking about the lad since his under-15 days. And that too for a reason, he's been setting the world alight ever since. Umar is good but not as good as Babar. Umar relies too much on big shots. Babar is a complete modern day batsmen. Umar could be a very good and consistent slogger AT BEST (that too if he gets his act straight).

 

[Hawkeye]

No one doubts his talent, but talent alone isn't enough for performance. He lacks application and importantly DRIVE.

But he just performed! What's there to say he won't in the series, too?

He actually loves pace and bounce. He's that batsman who carted around Shane Bond for fun on his debut.

 

[Hawkeye]

Wouldn't call him the most talented batsman of the last decade. It is Babar Azam hands down. Everyone's been talking about the lad since his under-15 days. And that too for a reason, he's been setting the world alight ever since. Umar is good but not as good as Babar. Umar relies too much on big shots. Babar is a complete modern day batsmen. Umar could be a very good and consistent slogger AT BEST (that too if he gets his act straight).

Babar Azam can overtake him only if Babar shows good temperament and defense skills.

It's lacking so far, in Tests at least.

Also, Babar isn't as dynamic as Umar and can't accelerate like Umar does. He's talented though, no doubt.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Babar Azam can overtake him only if Babar shows good temperament and defense skills.

It's lacking so far, in Tests at least.

Also, Babar isn't as dynamic as Umar and can't accelerate like Umar does. He's talented though, no doubt.

The only thing I would call a weakness for Babar as of now would be his desperation to feel bat on ball but that's a problem even the best of modern day batsmen face. However, Babar IMO is leagues ahead of Umar in ODI's. Umar Akmal can accelerate but that is because of slogging. I don't see him get too many singles or doubles. And even if he would, he's never consistent.

 

[MRSN]

Plays his first match in Australia on this tour.

Goes on to score 54, at a strike rate of ~139.

Highest strike rates for batsmen who scored:

1. Sharjeel Khan: 62 at 158
2. Umar Akmal 54 at 138
3. Babar Azam 98 at 86
4. Malik 49 at 81.

What does it show?

It's clear that the only "true" modern batsmen in whole Pakistan are Sharjeel Khan and Umar Akmal.

Stays out of the team for a long time and makes impact in his first match.

He needs support which unfortunately he has been missing in the Pakistan team.

 

[Hawkeye]

He needs support which unfortunately he has been missing in the Pakistan team.

This is true.

But he's also to be blamed somewhat. Needs to improve temperament and forget the mid wicket / cow corner.

But, yeah, a talent like him needs to be persisted with by cricket boards. PCB is wasting him.

 

[in_cutter]

He needs support which unfortunately he has been missing in the Pakistan team.

Support for what?

 

[MRSN]

Support for what?

for starters, not being benched for the likes of YK,Asad anymore..and not getting 'punished' for playing his natural cricket. Let him give some games without having him any fears. He is struggling to find his place back in the team. I believe if he is given some games without the fear of dropped if not performing in 3 games he might do well and we may see old Umar Akmal.

 

[MRSN]

in any case, Umar Akmal is a very vital player if Pakistan are to rise from the no.9 position. Pakistan's rise in ODI cricket depend on modern day good ODI players like Sharjeel,Umar,Baber,Sarfraz and this is why I think PCB should not scare them with fear of dropping from the team. They have potential which should not be wasted. We don't have great talent coming through especially with current system.

 

[Hasan123]

Hope he gets a chance vs Australia. He has the talent, but needs to get some consistent scores.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

He will learn a lot batting with Babar. Gotta bat him in the top 4. Preferably open.

 

[Bilal7]

Plays his first match in Australia on this tour.

Goes on to score 54, at a strike rate of ~139.

Highest strike rates for batsmen who scored:

1. Sharjeel Khan: 62 at 158
2. Umar Akmal 54 at 138
3. Babar Azam 98 at 86
4. Malik 49 at 81.

What does it show?

It's clear that the only "true" modern batsmen in whole Pakistan are Sharjeel Khan and Umar Akmal.

Stays out of the team for a long time and makes impact in his first match.

And Babar Azam isn't? A SR of around 85 is very good for a modern day player. This is ODIs we're talking about, not T20s.

Umar Akmal should be a permanent feature in our team from now on. Even if he doesn't improve further than the 35 averaging player that he is, we still need him. Haris, Babar, Sarfaraz and Akmal should be our #3 to #6 in ODIs.

 

[Hawkeye]

And Babar Azam isn't? A SR of around 85 is very good for a modern day player. This is ODIs we're talking about, not T20s.

Umar Akmal should be a permanent feature in our team from now on. Even if he doesn't improve further than the 35 averaging player that he is, we still need him. Haris, Babar, Sarfaraz and Akmal should be our #3 to #6 in ODIs.

Azam isn't ideal, but scoring from the start at 80+ strike rate throughout your innings makes it good.

This can come to haunt you, though, if you end your innings at 80 strike rate and there are no other 120+ strike rate players in your team (and if they don't score at 120+, you're in big trouble).

Like today Pak was able to put above 300 only because of Sharjeel and Umar knocks at above 130+ SR.

 

[Hasan123]

Plays his first match in Australia on this tour.

Goes on to score 54, at a strike rate of ~139.

Highest strike rates for batsmen who scored:

1. Sharjeel Khan: 62 at 158
2. Umar Akmal 54 at 138
3. Babar Azam 98 at 86
4. Malik 49 at 81.

What does it show?

It's clear that the only "true" modern batsmen in whole Pakistan are Sharjeel Khan and Umar Akmal.

Stays out of the team for a long time and makes impact in his first match.

Yes he is one of our few dynamic LO players, but don't big him up until he starts performing consistently in international games. Scoring in warm up matches like these is meaningless.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Plays his first match in Australia on this tour.

Goes on to score 54, at a strike rate of ~139.

Highest strike rates for batsmen who scored:

1. Sharjeel Khan: 62 at 158
2. Umar Akmal 54 at 138
3. Babar Azam 98 at 86
4. Malik 49 at 81.

What does it show?

It's clear that the only "true" modern batsmen in whole Pakistan are Sharjeel Khan and Umar Akmal.

Stays out of the team for a long time and makes impact in his first match.

Lets not get carried away, we were playing against 17 year olds.

Lets see how chota Akmal behaves in front of packed crowd and Starc. Will he do his usual high in the air catching practice shot like he usually does when chokes under pressure. Lets hope he has matured.

 

[Hawkeye]

Yes he is one of our few dynamic LO players, but don't big him up until he starts performing consistently in international games. Scoring in warm up matches like these is meaningless.

I think it's start to big him up now. We've all been trashing him for the last couple of years.

Confidence before the series.

Lets not get carried away, we were playing against 17 year olds.

Lets see how chota Akmal behaves in front of packed crowd and Starc. Will he do his usual high in the air catching practice shot like he usually does when chokes under pressure. Lets hope he has matured.

I know they were kids, but gotta appreciate the knock still. Umar has no issue with packed crowds or pace.