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I don't find any Pakistani pacer other than Abbas better than their Indian counterparts.Indians have gone ahead quiet some time ago.
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Classic case of why our cricket is going downhill.
When both of them started out, Wahab was a raw talent. Umesh Yadav was nowhere near Wahab's skill level and talent. Now look at them. Yadav has progressed to become the spearhead for India at home while Wahab sees himself out of the team.
Pakistani cricketers have all the talent in the world and they start out conquering the world. This can now be attributed to the novelty factor when they come in and take the game by storm ala Umar Akmal, Salman Butt, Mohammad Amir but over time all of them regress as the system does not work on them to build upon their initial successes.
Indian cricketers on the other hand start off slowly as they are not that inherently talented as some of their Pakistani counterparts especially when it comes to bowling but what their system does is that it hones their skills over time and allows them to play at a competitive level year in year out in the domestic.
A couple of years ago, nobody would've said Yadav was better than Wahab and Wahab is a pretty low benchmark I must say. And now no one would say Wahab is better than Yadav. It's so important for a country's domestic structure to take ownership of players and continuously build upon them rather than regress them. This is why Prithvi Shaw to me looks scary. He is so good right now so imagine how the Indian system will further groom him as he ages.
Pakistan needs to find a method whereby it enhances skills of their cricketers. This will never happen in the current state of our domestic where you're seeing teams bundling out for 30 odd and 40 odd that includes former Test cricketers.
When both of them started out, Wahab was a raw talent. Umesh Yadav was nowhere near Wahab's skill level and talent. Now look at them. Yadav has progressed to become the spearhead for India at home while Wahab sees himself out of the team.
Pakistani cricketers have all the talent in the world and they start out conquering the world. This can now be attributed to the novelty factor when they come in and take the game by storm ala Umar Akmal, Salman Butt, Mohammad Amir but over time all of them regress as the system does not work on them to build upon their initial successes.
Indian cricketers on the other hand start off slowly as they are not that inherently talented as some of their Pakistani counterparts especially when it comes to bowling but what their system does is that it hones their skills over time and allows them to play at a competitive level year in year out in the domestic.
A couple of years ago, nobody would've said Yadav was better than Wahab and Wahab is a pretty low benchmark I must say. And now no one would say Wahab is better than Yadav. It's so important for a country's domestic structure to take ownership of players and continuously build upon them rather than regress them. This is why Prithvi Shaw to me looks scary. He is so good right now so imagine how the Indian system will further groom him as he ages.
Pakistan needs to find a method whereby it enhances skills of their cricketers. This will never happen in the current state of our domestic where you're seeing teams bundling out for 30 odd and 40 odd that includes former Test cricketers.
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I agree about over all point in your post, but not too sure about the bold part. I recall Yadav bowling at good pace and also having late swing. If you can bowl at pace and swing it late both ways, then it's a huge skill. He was also able to reverse it. So talent was not an issue, control was issue. Despite taking a 10-fer here, I not convinced that he can bowl with control consistently.
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Yup. Yadav's control is not test level and may never be. But he is useful for us.
And always remember... Pakistan has a lot of TALENT.
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Yes control is an issue with both Umesh and Wahab but I think Wahab at the start of his career was very good. Umesh was erratic then. He still is but less so. Wahab has done the opposite. He was good in his initial 1-2 years and then tailed off dramatically becoming increasingly wayward game after game.
I still don't rate Umesh that much and just like you I'm still not convinced that he can bowl with control consistently. He might get smashed in Australia but the comparison was between Wahab and Umesh and Umesh has comfortably passed Wahab at this moment.
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Yadav is a much better bowler.
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Overall not much difference the two. Yadav has superior home record while Riaz has performed better overseas.
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Can you do a filter post 2015? That will be a better picture of how they have fared.
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Some excellent posts by our esteemed posters and by [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] too in this thread. May your predictions help Indian cricketer s improve and grow from strength to strength.
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Some excellent posts by our esteemed posters and by [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] too in this thread. May your predictions help Indian cricketer s improve and grow from strength to strength.
It's very cheap to dig up posts from long ago and use them to make some weird point. The Yadav I saw was a garbage bowler and quite inferior to the Riaz of that point in time. Of course, things change and Riaz has let his performances dip. Let's see what Yadav does in Australia.
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"Strength to strength". Let's not forget that Riaz plays his test matches in a foreign country.
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Every Indian player you see is inferior to a Pakistani. So if you make such cheap posts you should be ready to be called out.
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That's why i put them so far on even terms.
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LOL so many posts in this thread are helluva entertaining. I don't like Umesh much but the hyperbole here is other worldly.
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"Called out" because a phasht bowler who averages 45 away from home took a ten-fer at home against the 8th best side in the world on a helpful pitch.
Look, if you're saying that Umesh is better than Riaz, go ahead if it makes you happy.
It wasn't directed at you. You're one of the most objective posters here.
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Bilal bhaijaan you said Yadav is not even in the same class as Wahab and did not have the ability/skill. Surely there is nothing wrong in pointing out that you can be very biased sometimes.
Reverse swing. Yadav is an average new ball bowler but has become a very good bowler with the old ball since the SA series at home. The ball doesn't reverse that much abroad and hence his mighty average.
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That's because Umesh's "away" matches are only in Australia, SL and WI.
He has played 1 match in England (picking 3 for 76) and 0 matches in SA and NZ.
Poor guy toils away all day in the subcontinental heat and on Aussie roads and then gets benched as soon as a bowler-friendly pitch shows up.
"Called out" because a phasht bowler who averages 45 away from home took a ten-fer at home against the 8th best side in the world on a helpful pitch.
Look, if you're saying that Umesh is better than Riaz, go ahead if it makes you happy.
It wasn't directed at you. You're one of the most objective posters here.
The same 8th ranked team defeated you in UAE so you should be the last one to discredit wins against them.
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Peak Wahab >>>>>> Peak Yadav
Average Yadav > Average Wahab
Pace Wahab pace > Peak Yadav pace
Average Yadav pace > Average Wahab pace
Average Yadav > Average Wahab
Pace Wahab pace > Peak Yadav pace
Average Yadav pace > Average Wahab pace
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Wahab ka peak kab aaya tha?
I only remember him doing 3 things in his career
1. WC 2011 Semifinal 5 for against India
2. WC 2015 QF - A spell of good short pitch bowling
3. One test match in 2015 October/November in UAE
If we call that peak, then what was Waqar's peak? Mount Everest on Jupiter?
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They've big hearts :lalaHope this thread goes the way of others where an Indian players performance went on an upward curve after being compared to a Pakistani player..
High time Umesh's career got an up tick!
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Exactly.
Pak fans disliked him before 2015 WC & were criticising his selection
Then in 2015 WC he got the hype because of that spell against Aus & soon he was considered among best in the world
However just after 12 months or so most Pak fans were calling for his head in each & every format
Even if someone wants him in the team,it's only for test matches in UAE
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Arrogance has gone to some Indian fans' heads. Wahab was a late bloomer and injuries ensured he couldn't keep bowling at his absolute best. He was always way better than Yadav at his best.
Yes on average Yadav's better but who cares about average unless we are talking about really long careers. Yadav has only 120 test wickets in 40 tests. That's pathetic. Stop hyping him up. He's ok and thats about it.
Wahab was special in his pomp.
Yes on average Yadav's better but who cares about average unless we are talking about really long careers. Yadav has only 120 test wickets in 40 tests. That's pathetic. Stop hyping him up. He's ok and thats about it.
Wahab was special in his pomp.
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Correct statistics. But wrong inference.
Only 8 out those 40 matches have been outside the SC - and only 6 in SENA.
In the SC, Indian pacers hardly get to bowl more than 10-12 overs an innings. So it's not a surprise that Umesh has a low wickets tally.
And as far as peak is concerned, Umesh also has a better peak than Wahab. In the last 2 years, Umesh's avg has been 24. Even at his peak, Wahab's average was 32.8.
So you are wrong on both counts, Bhaijaan.
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Wahab was never anything special and to speak of him in his pomp is to do an injustice to every bowler who actually sustained their form over more than three overs . What Riaz has is a scattering of performances that ranged from the useful (2-3 key wickets), to the notable (a 5 fer) yet in that regards he is no different from a Grandhomme or a Neil Wagner or an Abdur Razzaq. He never took a 10 fer in his international career, nor did he ever produce the kind of one innings demolition that Ishant Sharma has been capable of a few times. Just a deeply mediocre cricketer who failed to learn with time, and distinguished himself only by his speed, much of which speed has now deserted him it seems. It is so sad that Pakistan fans feel the need to defend this garbage bowler.
Instead of attacking Indian fans and calling them arrogant, why don't you actually answer the reasonable question which [MENTION=134408]Sidilicious[/MENTION] and [MENTION=147715]RyanRyan10[/MENTION] asked: Wahab ka peak kab aaya tha?
I looked at the Test series performance of Wahab and Umesh to find the answer and I have to say that the numbers reveal tha Umesh at his peak was clearly better than Wahab.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...s=1;template=results;type=bowling;view=series
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...s=1;template=results;type=bowling;view=series
Wahab's 5 lowest series averages are:
20.60 (SL in UAE 2017/18)
24.60 (WI in UAE 2016/17)
27.33 (SL in SL 2014)
27.80 (SL in SL 2015)
27.85 (Eng in Eng 2010)
Umesh's 5 lowest series averages are (ignoring the one off Test against Afg where he averaged 11):
12 (SA in India 2015/16)
15.36 (WI in India 2018)
21 (Eng in India 2012/13)
23.41 (Aus in India 2016/17)
25.33 (India in England 2018)
From the above numbers, it is quite clear that "peak Yadav" has outperformed "peak Riaz" by quite a margin, and I say this as someone who likes Riaz a lot.
Also, Wahab's best performance in Tests have happened in the last 2 years, contradicting "Wahab was a late bloomer and injuries ensured he couldn't keep bowling at his absolute best."
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Honestly I dont think wahab had more talent. He had pace and reverse swing. He was always poor with the new ball.
Umesh had all the talent in the world conventional, reverse, seam to become dale steyn like natural outswingers at 145kph, with athletic body.
But he regressed a lot.
Umesh had all the talent in the world conventional, reverse, seam to become dale steyn like natural outswingers at 145kph, with athletic body.
But he regressed a lot.
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Great tactics of making attacks when u know u don't have enough evidence to prove your claim
And where did I hype Umesh?
I won't rate him high unless he does well overseas but he is definitely better than Wahab who has played just 27 tests in his 8 year career
U call Umesh pathetic for taking 120 wickets in 40 tests(3 wickets per match) but Wahab "a force to reckon with" for taking just 83 wickets in 27 tests(3.07 wickets per match)
How logical is that?
And Wahab's career was never affected by injuries
He was just not good enough
He had made his debut in 2010 & till 2014 he had played just 8 tests
Was called back in 2015 after his WC performance
Since then he has played 19 tests and has bowled few good spells but has been very inconsistent.He can't even bowl consistently good for 2 consecutive innings
In 2015 he averaged 36 in 8 tests
In 2016 he averaged 34 in 7 tests
So when was he actually a force to reckon with?was it in 2017 where he played just 3 tests?
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Bhaijaan has to be trolling. Because there is not a single indication that suggests that Wahab is better than Umesh.
And one thing people also seem to forget about Umesh is that he is one of India's best outfielders and next to Kapil Dev he is easily the best fielder among all Indian fast bowlers. When it comes to Wahab, the less said about his fielding the better.
Not only @freelane_cricketer but also the usual suspect [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION], who put Wahab in Pakistan's B team and Umesh in the D or E team. Yes, Junaids' hyperbolic post was in Apr 2015, but even at that point there wasn't much to separate the two. Of course, one assumes that in Apr 2015, a poster should be posting about cricketer's based not only on their past performance but also based on an assessment of their future.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...pan;template=results;type=bowling;view=series
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...pan;template=results;type=bowling;view=series
Junaids' post is especially odd as it was right after the 2015 WC in which Yadav did better than Riaz. Yadav was the 3rd highest wicket taker behind Starc and Boult with an average of 17.29 and Riaz was at 5th with 16 wickets at 23.00.
Wouldn't you say his performance in the last Test shows that he is progressing?
I should add that unlike Steyn, Yadav doesn't seem to get injured, possibly because he plays less than Steyn.
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who the hell is Varun Dhawan
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A talent wasted in fast bowling. Now acts in Hindi films.
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And also because he is now a 85 mph bowler unlike Steyn who even now goes at 90 mph.
Maybe, a county stint is what he needs. Was reading an interview of Varun Aaron on Cricinfo where he shared how a short couny stint with Leics has helped him so much. Was evident in how he bowled inVijay Hazare Trophy QF today - bowling with pace, control and moving the ball at will. Bowled as good as anyone can do at FC level.
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Wahab all day in LOIs
Son of David Dhawan.
Sarcastic post bro
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Sarcasm or did you mean to say Rishi Dhawan?
No bro sarcasm, Btw Rishi dhawan also played for India. Another player to that ATG indian bowler list. Also add Doda Ganesh to that list
Actually Umesh is faster than 85 mph (140 kph is about 88 mph) AND he is able to sustain his speed through the innings. As Kohli said "Outstanding effort (by Umesh). I thought with Shardul breaking down very early, to bowl like that in both innings was a great effort on his part. It showed the kind of fitness levels he had, to keep running in and bowl 140 clicks throughout the game and picking wickets and not just completing overs."
Steyn is a great bowler, and obviously Umesh is not at his level. But Steyn is also more injury prone than Umesh.
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lol this is a joke thread. umesh is far better but I love me some wahab. Prime wahab was awesome for a year or 2.
He could not sustain it.
umesh is far better in tests.
He could not sustain it.
umesh is far better in tests.
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steyn could never sustain 140 plus for long periods. his average speed was always 138 ish.
similar to umesh. his max speed is higher yes. 150 something.
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Man what a fall from grace
All of those bowlers suck
Bumrah, Shami, Ishant, Bhuvi, Umesh are better than all of them
Umesh has now 142 @ 30.26
Rahat - 58 at 39.03
Amir - 119 @ 30.47
Junaid - 71 @ 31.73
Wahab - 83 @ 34.5
Adil - 5 @ 52.6
Asif - banned at the time of the message. [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] just put him in there to get a mid 20 averaging guy
Gul - 163 @ 34.06
Irfan - 10 @ 38.9
Sohail - 27 @ 41.66
Imran - 29 @ 31.62
Sami - 85 @ 52.7
So as you can see Umesh has a better career average than all of the post Asif picks that [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] listed.
How the turntables
lol that is only your ego speaking, the real order is:
Bumrah
Al amin
Shami
Shaheen
Abu Jayed
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Shaheen Afridi with an average of 33 and no 5 fers is better than 26 averaging Bhuvi, 30 averaging Umesh (last 4 years - 94 wickets @ 25.81) and 32 averaging Ishant (last 4 years 92 wickets @ 23.67). Ok
But Bhuvi is not playing any test anytime soon.
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bhuvi was in the 2018 aus tour squad and might be in the nz squad. specialist green track bowler.
Lol, this shows you know absolutely nothing even about Indian cricket. I will tag you when Indian test squad for New Zealand is announced and I can guarantee you 100% Bhuvi will not be anywhere near the squad. This only confirms your early posts are completely bogus too.
Do you understand the difference between "might be" and "absolutely no chance"
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Please tell me you're kidding.
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Oh man! How things change !
And also how ordinary players get overhyped here only to fall flat on their face years later.
And also how ordinary players get overhyped here only to fall flat on their face years later.
He is not. Thats how delusional most BD fans are unfortunately.
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Add king of fast bowlers Vinay Kumar and Ashok dinda.
Yes, I do... but you apparently don't as you seem to believe that if something doesn't happen it proves that 1) "absolutely no chance" was correct ex-ante and 2) "might be" was incorrect ex-ante.
No more replies unless I see something intelligent.
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Another super biased post from a guy who claims to be an englishman, I am sure no one really takes him seriously.
Oh man! How things change !
And also how ordinary players get overhyped here only to fall flat on their face years later.
Come on. Yadav is an alright bowler. Don't think he's been overhyped
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Is wahab playing Test match? He completely wasted his ability to bowl raw pace. If he had added a bit more skill he could have carried on the Pakistan's fast bowling legacy.
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I pity you if you are not trolling and genuinely believe that.
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Keep Shaheen aside, how did you miss Al Amin? Lmao
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Current Asian order
Bumrah
Shami
Ishant
Bhuvi
Yadav
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Shaheen
Abbas
Naseem
Daylight
Put names of random BD trundlers in whichever order you may like.
Bumrah
Shami
Ishant
Bhuvi
Yadav
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Shaheen
Abbas
Naseem
Daylight
Put names of random BD trundlers in whichever order you may like.
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Wahab in his prime had pace, stamina and reverse swing just that never had the intelligence to make best use them or grow new skills.
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Those 2 dots are probably a synonym for daylight too. Generally speaking, I think it is a bit harsh to compare whatever the current Pakistani bowling stocks have to the Indian bowling attack. You guys have an established attack and that shows in the stats. We have not had a proper attack for years now. Harsh to place these youngsters in the same bracket as your experienced pacemen. If one day we have 3 pacers playing 10+ test matches per year consistently, then it would be a fair comparison.
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It was not only about intelligence. He was too lazy to develop new skills. His wrist position has ALWAYS been the same since day dot. He has never tried to bring the ball back in to the right handers. He has not even tried and failed. How lazy do you have to be to not work on at least keeping that wrist position straight with at least the new ball and let the ball do its own bit naturally at least.
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Fair enough actually.
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Completely agree. I remember when he burst onto the scene taking a 5fer against us in the world cup, I was damn envious at the prospect of Pak having their 2nd Shoaib Akhtar. He just never grown or evolved after that match, kept bowling like a programmed machine with little to no game awareness. With that pace and left handed action could have been to Pak what Starc is to Aus. Highlight of his career is probably still that 2011 wc match.
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intelligence lol it's a fallback excuse for lack of skills. not good enough in terms of execution is the reason. He would have had to drop pace to accommodate for swing etc.
lazy is another excuse. wahab is not lazy. He is an athlete. He is actually very fit. He just well sucks from a technical point of view.
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Umesh is probably the deadliest bowler in Indian conditions but tends to blow hot and cold overseas. He is flawed but has his place and his Afridi-esque six hitting is entertaining too. Wahab has not really achieved anything close to Umesh home or away in tests. Wahab tends to pick his game up for WCs but did not do well in 2019. Umesh for me.
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Yadav Yadav Yadav
Wahab is a spray gun to say the least I have a lot of other very mean things to say about him but I would rather not he doesn’t even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as.
Umesh Yadav
Wahab is a spray gun to say the least I have a lot of other very mean things to say about him but I would rather not he doesn’t even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as.
Umesh Yadav
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Sri Lankan pacers are better than any BD trundler and most Pakistani pacers. Even Yamin Ahmadzai is a better test bowler than the BD trundlers
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It is very likely that Bhuvi will play in NZ as india will likely play with 4 fast bowlers and bhuvi will be preferred over Yadav. The dude averages 20 in the last year, why won't he play
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