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Friendship should play no role in picking a player again and again.
Another epic innings today from him 16 off 16 balls.
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He is friends with Sarfi![]()
This Dubai pitch is excellent pitch to bat on, Ronchi, Watson and Pietersen showed it today.
No excuses for the failures here. Teams should become ruthless in their selections now. Drop the underperformers.
Those three really showed the disparity in class and power between the top world batsmen and Pakistan's best. Watching Babar Azam and Rizwan scratching around in comparison was painful. It was like watching a senior team playing a bunch of schoolboys.
PSL has been very useful in that regard, at least the gulf in class becomes very obvious.
This Dubai pitch is excellent pitch to bat on, Ronchi, Watson and Pietersen showed it today.
No excuses for the failures here. Teams should become ruthless in their selections now. Drop the underperformers.
Read too high praises about Babar in PP, looks like he is heading in wrong direction or PSL is one off, time will answer !
Just seven fours and two sixes chasing 180. It looked like a good wicket to bat on. This was even more boring than that Bangladesh innings.
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] ‘s ESL. Exciting super league![]()
Yeah everytime a team hits 180 in the IPL, the chasing team scores 179
Is anybody forcing you to watch these boring matches?
To be fair that was one of the worst run-chases I have ever seen![]()
Yeah everytime a team hits 180 in the IPL, the chasing team scores 179
Is anybody forcing you to watch these boring matches?
Very much so... but what is the point of this stupid point scoring? Is every match in the IPL a thriller that goes down to the last ball? Who the hell are these Indians to bad mouth PSL. Is anybody forcing them to watch it?
Gulraiz Sadaf's knocks in PSL 2018:
13 off 31, Strike rate 41.
27 off 40, Strike rate 67.
He looked so bad in that knock of 27 and that is his best performance to date. Where are they finding these deadbeat players?
He looked so bad in that knock of 27 and that is his best performance to date. Where are they finding these deadbeat players?
I know he is a pretty mediocre bat but I can bet a 100 bucks if he hadn't played his innings LQ would have been bowled out shot of the mark
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] u must mean unimpressed with batting of ttf's this season, young bucks havent really given a fair go at all.... talat too gets to sit so sir misbah can go give us dashing 12* (18) amazing 4 (10) and out of this world 22 (25) knocks.
But but but you don't watch the match and that 10 ball 4 is needed to stabilize the innings.
yar jhootay ilzaam mat lagaoo.... meiney innings dekhi thi misbah ki, haan i was distracted a bit as i fell asleep in between, then went to work came back took kids to playground came back did a quick lahori ghussal, put kids to sleep, and finally when freed up what do you know, sir misbah was in pristine form still out there.... going head on for a DRAW to save the T20 for us....
Rohit has extremely high peaks followed by inconsistent and lazy attitude.
Personally, his peaks are even higher than Kohli on a certain day but would u rate Rohit better than Kohli?
Now Fakhar and Sharjeel might not be as good as Rohit (an open assumption now) but Fakhar might eclipse Rohit because of consistency.
To have high peaks followed by deep valleys doesnt really mean you are amazing.
It means height of inconsistency.
Just my opinion.
[MENTION=143775]backfootpunch[/MENTION][MENTION=143775]backfootpunch[/MENTION]
Most of your criticisms regarding Rohit are actually valid, and that is why he is not as good as Kohli or Dhawan. However, in spite of these relatives shortcomings, he is way, way ahead of Fakhar at this point for this to even be a comparison.
Let Fakhar play 100+ matches and score 10+ tons, and that is when this comparison will have any legs.
Rohit is a world class ODI opener. However, his slow starts and problem with the incoming delivery are two reasons why he is unlikely to become an ATG in this format. I agree that the 170 that he scored in Australia is probably the weakest 150+ ODI score that I can think, but if we micro-analyze, then we will find faults in most innings.
Fakhar himself got out on a lowly score in the CT final. However, it was still a good innings and credit should be given to him. Similarly, a 170 cannot be written off entirely. It could have been better but it was still a top innings. However, Rohit has played far better innings than that.
There are two sides of your argument: The criticism of Rohit which is largely valid, and the notion that Fakhar is better than him and more resilient which I think is completely ridiculous.
Fakhar has only played 13 games in his career so far, and he is only a couple of years younger. There is absolutely no way you can even put the two in the same sentence. As I said, at this point, this is as bad a comparison as Umar and Kohli.
Rohit has been one of the top ODI openers in the world for 5 years now and has scored runs all over the world. He has 15 ODI tons and 3 double-tons to his name, and you are comparing him to a batsman with 13 ODIs to his name only, who has the tendency of throwing his wicket away for cheap scores almost all the time, and is completely unproven in 80% of the countries.
Rohit is not as clutch as Dhawan or Kohli, but he is still a better pressure player than the serial bottler Amla. Moreover, one good tournament by Fakhar does not make him more resilient than Rohit. Grant Elliot has played two match-winning knocks in two semifinals, but would I take him over Amla as an ODI batsman? Of course not, simply because the gulf between the two players is too big for a couple of knocks to bridge the gap.
Can Fakhar be a better player than Rohit in the future? Highly unlikely, but it is possible. If he can score 15+ tons over the 200 or so ODIs that he will play for Pakistan and deliver in World Cups, he will have a strong case. However, I will not bet on it, because we do not know how to develop batsmen. The chances of Fakhar falling apart are much higher than his chances of becoming a top player.
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] u must mean unimpressed with batting of ttf's this season, young bucks havent really given a fair go at all.... talat too gets to sit so sir misbah can go give us dashing 12* (18) amazing 4 (10) and out of this world 22 (25) knocks.
Unimpressed with all Pakistani batting talent if I'm honest.
Apart from the odd glimpse here and there from Hussain Talat, 2 shots by Saif Badar and a few shots by Agha Salman, I've not seen much to excite me.
[MENTION=143775]backfootpunch[/MENTION]
Most of your criticisms regarding Rohit are actually valid, and that is why he is not as good as Kohli or Dhawan. However, in spite of these relatives shortcomings, he is way, way ahead of Fakhar at this point for this to even be a comparison.
Let Fakhar play 100+ matches and score 10+ tons, and that is when this comparison will have any legs.
Rohit is a world class ODI opener. However, his slow starts and problem with the incoming delivery are two reasons why he is unlikely to become an ATG in this format. I agree that the 170 that he scored in Australia is probably the weakest 150+ ODI score that I can think, but if we micro-analyze, then we will find faults in most innings.
Fakhar himself got out on a lowly score in the CT final. However, it was still a good innings and credit should be given to him. Similarly, a 170 cannot be written off entirely. It could have been better but it was still a top innings. However, Rohit has played far better innings than that.
There are two sides of your argument: The criticism of Rohit which is largely valid, and the notion that Fakhar is better than him and more resilient which I think is completely ridiculous.
Fakhar has only played 13 games in his career so far, and he is only a couple of years younger. There is absolutely no way you can even put the two in the same sentence. As I said, at this point, this is as bad a comparison as Umar and Kohli.
Rohit has been one of the top ODI openers in the world for 5 years now and has scored runs all over the world. He has 15 ODI tons and 3 double-tons to his name, and you are comparing him to a batsman with 13 ODIs to his name only, who has the tendency of throwing his wicket away for cheap scores almost all the time, and is completely unproven in 80% of the countries.
Rohit is not as clutch as Dhawan or Kohli, but he is still a better pressure player than the serial bottler Amla. Moreover, one good tournament by Fakhar does not make him more resilient than Rohit. Grant Elliot has played two match-winning knocks in two semifinals, but would I take him over Amla as an ODI batsman? Of course not, simply because the gulf between the two players is too big for a couple of knocks to bridge the gap.
Can Fakhar be a better player than Rohit in the future? Highly unlikely, but it is possible. If he can score 15+ tons over the 200 or so ODIs that he will play for Pakistan and deliver in World Cups, he will have a strong case. However, I will not bet on it, because we do not know how to develop batsmen. The chances of Fakhar falling apart are much higher than his chances of becoming a top player.
ofcourse, if we are to be honest, so far not a single bat has impressed, no player came to crease and made us go THIS IS THE GUY... so far everyone looks acerage... lots still to be desired...
Well Hussain Talat is probably the best of a not so great bunch. But even then he's not set the tournament alight has he.
Well Hussain Talat is probably the best of a not so great bunch. But even then he's not set the tournament alight has he.
Gulraiz Sadaf played a few nice shots today, but he has mostly struggled in the PSL and looked like someone who hasn't got the power or the variety of shots.
Well Hussain Talat is probably the best of a not so great bunch. But even then he's not set the tournament alight has he.
Rameez Raja jr has also struggled during the PSL despite several chances.
Rameez Raja jr has also struggled during the PSL despite several chances.
He is not a “talent”
A 30 year old with averages of below 30 in F.C and List A. He was always going to be garbage.
Contrary to this thread we've seen glimpses of some real and sometime raw batting talent. Hussain Talat tops the list, then you have guys like Asif Ali, Sohail Akhtar and Agha Salman who have potential.
Babar Azam played some breathtaking shots today and showed that he has another gear... just keep watching.
Yeah like slowing from 150 to 120 SR while approaching his 50. Btw I was breathing normally throughout his innings.
Babar haters like yourself will always look for the negatives.
It was inevitable that he would slow down because wickets kept tumbling.
Babar haters like yourself will always look for the negatives.
It was inevitable that he would slow down because wickets kept tumbling.
He was scoring at and did single handedly score the first 27 runs at 150+ SR while both Denly and Ingram scored 6/7 ball ducks. Try again.
More wickets had fallen and then the powerplay had ended too.
summun bukmun umyun fa hum la yabsiroon.
How has Nawaz outperformed Imad and Yasir? Let alone Shadab and Zafar?!?Faheem Ashraf has been the player of the tournament for me, hes made a name for himself as six hitter and his bowling has been absolute class.
Muhammed Nawaz is the best spinner in Pakistan and has totally out performed Yasir and Imad in this PSL
Talat the only newcomer batsman that has made an impression.
Shaheen Shah best newcomer fast bowler
Looking at stats so far from the tournament:
Babar and Fakhar are easily your best LOI batsman
Hafeez and Malik are still performing better then any other middle order from Pak
Kamran Akmal is probably your second best opener after Fakhar stats wise.