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Upcoming FAB 3: Babar Azam, Kusal Mendis and Shai Hope?

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Considering that all three of them are under 23 , Babar has already proved himself in ODI's to some extent but still needs one big innings in test cricket to get the ball rolling.

Mendis has done his bit in both ODIs and Test matches to show his potential.

While Shai Hope has at last performed upto his potential in 2nd test match against England so I think all three of them have a great future ahead if every thing goes well.

Yes I know its too early to say anything but it has to be considered that there are not a lot of young (Under 24) and talented batsmen around at the moment.

What do you guys think?
 
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Babar has a lot to prove in test matches.Both Hope and Mendis have played ATG innings' already.
 
Yep I agree.
Shai Hope's success is a lesson for Pakistan that if you see potential in someone, persist with them. Lot is being said about Babar but he is one of the best player of fast bowling and will come good like Hope. Just give him time.

Pakistan did a big mistake persisting with mediocre players in 2012-2017 era when they left out Haris and Usman. Haris like Hope is the best player of fast bowling in his team and one of the best in world. Hope he makes it to the team soon otherwise it will be too late.
 
Babar has a lot to prove in test matches.Both Hope and Mendis have played ATG innings' already.

Agreed.

Though Babar did show glimpses of his class in New Zealand with an innings of 90 odd runs in one of the test matches. Those were one of the most difficult conditions a batsman from subcontinent can face, the ball was moving all around.
 
KR Rahul in test and t20 is miles ahead

He is 25, I know he is a pretty capable batsman but I was more into the 22,23 lot. He is atleast 2 years older than these 3.
 
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Yep I agree.
Shai Hope's success is a lesson for Pakistan that if you see potential in someone, persist with them. Lot is being said about Babar but he is one of the best player of fast bowling and will come good like Hope. Just give him time.

Pakistan did a big mistake persisting with mediocre players in 2012-2017 era when they left out Haris and Usman. Haris like Hope is the best player of fast bowling in his team and one of the best in world. Hope he makes it to the team soon otherwise it will be too late.

Good post, totally agreed.

The reason of this I think is that Pakistani selectors are spoiled with choices. There are a lot of average to good players in our domestic structure so rather than finding the world class player out of the lot (Which needs eye) and than sticking with him, they keep rotating the mediocre players around.

In case of Westindies, they have very limited player pool at the moment so they cant afford chopping and changing especially to the players like Shai Hope who has huge potential.
 
He is 25, I know he is a pretty capable batsman but I was more into the 22,23 lot. He is atleast 2 years older than these 3.

2 to 3 year age difference does not make much difference Rahul is more destructive and impactful in test and

t20s
 
Too early to say. Especially Babar Azam. Considering he is a Pak batsman. They usually fade away after 3 or 4 yrs.

KL Rahul is better than all of the mentioned Fab 3.
 
Good post, totally agreed.

The reason of this I think is that Pakistani selectors are spoiled with choices. There are a lot of average to good players in our domestic structure so rather than finding the world class player out of the lot (Which needs eye) and than sticking with him, they keep rotating the mediocre players around.

In case of Westindies, they have very limited player pool at the moment so they cant afford chopping and changing especially to the players like Shai Hope who has huge potential.

Just a simple rule: If you want to be the best you have to search and select world class players for respective roles. Pakistan have them but we are happy with mediocre/good/v.good players. We have to change this mindset and CT win is a stepping stone in that direction. I personally want Pakistan to be the best and in cricket we really can.
 
Babar, Hope, Mendis, Rahul are the ones that stand out...

Windies at full strength can actually look pretty damn good.. Brathwaite, Bravo, Hope, Chase, Holder are batsmen who already have respective feats in tough circumstances and/or conditions. 4 of them are currently in the team.
 
Babar's not in the same league as the other two, he's much better than them. Babar's only played 9 tests, plenty of time to produce a stellar innings.

Rahul and De Kock are guys that are more in line with his level, despite both being better than him at this point (but both are slightly older too)
 
Babar's not in the same league as the other two, he's much better than them. Babar's only played 9 tests, plenty of time to produce a stellar innings.

Rahul and De Kock are guys that are more in line with his level, despite both being better than him at this point (but both are slightly older too)


Babar hasnt done too badly in ODIs. Ranked number 5 with healthy average and strike rate, everybody knows he has talent and temperament.

He just needs to be presisted with.

Why is that nobody talked about hope when he had just one 50 in around 12 test matches. Players are developed by presisting with the ones with talent and good attitude towards the game.

ABD is one of the biggest example as he was mediocre as hell in his first two three years of international cricket.
 
De Kock is in another league and he is more experienced and older than others. He is already a fab in ODIs and doing pretty well in test matches as well. Just needs to be batted a little higher. I wont mind him opening with Elgar while somebody else keeps wickets.

Obviously know about Rahul as well, he looks good. But his selection and position in batting line up is inconsistent.

The ones I have talked about, all are automatic choices in their playing XI and they bat at no 3 or 4 positions. Age is also pretty same, that was the reason I didnt include Rahul in this set.

De Kock is already a proven entity and has been playing for sometime now so he was also not in the set. His position of batting in tests is still to be settled.
 
Babar will never play such clutch knock vs equal or better attack than this, mark it wherever you want, he can average 100 by scoring those soft runs but he is the last person to be trusted when you are under the pump.
 
De Kock's batsmanship is not at their level. He cannot cope with lateral movement be it spin or seam. He's an entertaining counterattacker but a complete batsman he's not.
 
Babar will never play such clutch knock vs equal or better attack than this, mark it wherever you want, he can average 100 by scoring those soft runs but he is the last person to be trusted when you are under the pump.

He's just played one the all time great innings. There aren't many in history who'd be able to better or equal it.
 
Yep I agree.
Shai Hope's success is a lesson for Pakistan that if you see potential in someone, persist with them. Lot is being said about Babar but he is one of the best player of fast bowling and will come good like Hope. Just give him time.

No, difference is Hope is in team after very good FC performances unlike Babar.
 
Kusal Mendis is under 23?!?!

WOW. Never knew
 
Too early to say. Especially Babar Azam. Considering he is a Pak batsman. They usually fade away after 3 or 4 yrs.

KL Rahul is better than all of the mentioned Fab 3.

Babar is a much better ODI batsman then Rahul.
 
Babar will never play such clutch knock vs equal or better attack than this, mark it wherever you want, he can average 100 by scoring those soft runs but he is the last person to be trusted when you are under the pump.

Marked.

By the way his 90 odd innings in NZ was on one of the most difficult wickets in terms of ball swinging and seaming, I have seen in many years.

According to me he will come good in tests that I am sure but, time will tell whether he has it in him what it takes to become an ATG.
 
I liked the commentary of Ian Bishop but never knew that guy has such a good eye.

Among commentators he was the only one who was really impressed with Hassan Ali and that was before CT 2017. Our commentators like Ramiz and even Waqar didnt see a lot in Hassan in his starting phase. Every time hassan was into attack even in PSL 2 Ian was always praising him while our commentators were to shy to say anything about him.

Same is the case with Shai Hope, yes he looked good with the naked eye but was yet to perform with the bat at international level and he failed in many occasions and many others started to doubt but Ian Bishop was always talking about him like he is the next big thing.

So really impressed with his cricketing eye unlike other commentators who starts praising the rising stars without seeing the potential before.
 
He's just played one the all time great innings. There aren't many in history who'd be able to better or equal it.

Kusal Mendis played an ATG innings against Aus in the first test when SL were on the ropes
 
No, difference is Hope is in team after very good FC performances unlike Babar.

Babar had an average of over 50 in list A cricket. Yes his first class average wasnt great but then with the performances he gave in ODIs you can drop a guy just bcz his first class average is low. Though I would like him to score few runs in 4 day cricket.

When Root debuted for England his first class average was mere 35 or around.
 
Babar had an average of over 50 in list A cricket. Yes his first class average wasnt great but then with the performances he gave in ODIs you can drop a guy just bcz his first class average is low. Though I would like him to score few runs in 4 day cricket.

When Root debuted for England his first class average was mere 35 or around.

I don't mind selecting a guy who has a low first class average in tests, provided he's super talented and that low first class average is because he was immediately drafted into internationals so didn't have time to make it good. And theoretically if he played more domestic matches, he would achieve that high average.

Hate it though guys with poor averages with a good number in games in domestic getting called up. If they couldn't hack it in domestic, they won't do it in internationals. That excuse of domestic being rubbish doesn't hold up. So few examples of players who were average in domestic and great internationally. And it's almost always the reason I've stated before, it's because they became an international regular very early. Root's an example of that, even Yousuf is.
 
I don't mind selecting a guy who has a low first class average in tests, provided he's super talented and that low first class average is because he was immediately drafted into internationals so didn't have time to make it good. And theoretically if he played more domestic matches, he would achieve that high average.

Hate it though guys with poor averages with a good number in games in domestic getting called up. If they couldn't hack it in domestic, they won't do it in internationals. That excuse of domestic being rubbish doesn't hold up. So few examples of players who were average in domestic and great internationally. And it's almost always the reason I've stated before, it's because they became an international regular very early. Root's an example of that, even Yousuf is.

Oddest thing is, it's not actually an excuse. Your argument only becomes stronger in so far as the domestic standard is weak. The trick is to understand that "domestic is rubbish" actually means evertyhing you want it to mean, all at the same time

A brief user's guide to PP language

Domestic is rubbish = Our bowlers suck, batting is easy
Domestic is rubbish = Our batsmen suck, bowling is easy
Domestic is rubbish = Our pitches are too flat
Domestic is rubbish = Our pitches are too green
Domestic is rubbish = Officials have too much power
Domestic is rubbish = Officials don't have enough power
Domestic is rubbish = Ignore the fact that he has performed
Domestic is rubbish = Ignore the fact that he has not performed
Domestic is rubbish = Only PCB selectors can see the future
Domestic is rubbish = Only I, PP fan, can see the future

See also:

He's a trundler = Ignore his strong record
His technique is poor = Ignore his strong record
He's too old = Ignore his strong record
He's too short = Ignore his strong record

They don't know how to use him = Has not performed
They just need to give him a license = Has not performed
They just need to give him a danda = Has not performed
He bats too far down = Has not performed
He bats too high up = Has not performed
He's moved around too much = Has not performed

He can make the ball talk = Goes missing most of the time
He has the X factor = Most often disappoints
Always gives 100 % = Never makes much of a difference
He needs to be given more time = Other players do not deserve time
He has been invested in = Other players should not be invested in
We need to trust the selectors= PP fans know nothing
We can't trust the selectors= PP fans know everything
 
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BABAR tests mei BAraBAR nahi khel raha.

KUSHAL kisi format mei bhi KUSHAL nahi khel raha

HOPE, there is no HOPE from him in LOI's

And OP thinks these are upcoming FAB 3.
 
Kusal showing his class against world champions. He’s a talent
 
Kusal Mendis has arrived. His timing is impeccable and he plays the game the right way!
 
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