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US dam diaspora donations amount to 0.0030pc of total


WASHINGTON: Despite prime minister's appeal to generously contribute funds for the construction of Diamir Basha Dam, the Pakistani diaspora across America has managed to send a little over three hundred thousand dollars so far which becomes almost 0.0030 percent of the total $14 billion estimated amount, The News has learnt through official sources.

The campaign to collect contributions from the general public started in mid-July after the Chief Justice Saqib Nisar announced the fund, though the campaign took pace when Prime Minister Imran Khan asked for more donations in early September.

In a widely televised address, the prime minister had appealed overseas Pakistanis especially in Europe and the US to send minimum a thousand dollar. "Those working in Dubai, Saudi Arabia and other countries in the Middle East should send any amount they can contribute but Pakistanis in Europe and the US should send at least $1000, which will not only help us build dams but also get dollars as we are facing shortage of them," he had said.

He also renamed the title of the bank account set up by the Chief Justice for the purpose. "It's not the Chief Justice's job. It was the work of political leaders who should have thought for provision of the dam funds," he had said adding that Rs180 crore were collected in the Chief Justice's fund. He then merged the account to call it, "PM-CJ fund for Diamer Basha and Mohmand Dam." Most of those contributions, until then, were collected from private citizens or taken out from salaries of government employees. Officers and soldiers of the armed forces also contributed their two-day and one-day pay respectively for the fund.

During the first ten days after the appeal was first made by the chief justice, the funds collected from the US were some 1,800 dollars, according to the break down available with The News. The next seven-day period saw a plunge; but it did surge once the PM asked for more contributions. Meanwhile, the Embassy of Pakistan also sent out letters to notable Pakistanis living in the US urging them to donate money. "Pakistani diaspora in USA is encouraged to generously contribute for this national cause," the letter said. It mentioned the purpose and account details established for raising funds.

The first day after the PM appealed for funds in early September, the National Bank's branch in the US collected more than 6 thousand dollars, a week later it jumped to more than 92,000 dollars, and a week after it went up to 105 thousand dollars. However, two week later the funds slowed down again. Since July, the amount gathered from across the US and sent to Pakistan through official channels by the National Bank's branch has reached over 3 hundred thousand dollars, which then was added to the official tally.

The Supreme Court of Pakistan's dedicated web page for keeping score of the donation status says that the amount collected so far from domestic and overseas contributions has touched almost Rs5 billion; which is around 40 million in dollars.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/380971-us-dam-diaspora-donations-amount-to-0-0030pc-of-total
 
As I had said in the other thread, no body cares. Dams are not built on chanda! If and thats a big if, the current donation pace is maintained it will take 100 years to get to target number for dam!! Think about it. You are not buying a bungalow in Karachi, you are building a bloody dam.
 
India should help Pakistan build those dams.

Time for us to grab the opportunity and help our neighbor. In return, Pak should let Kashmir go and recognize the international border, arrest all terrorists.

If Pak cannot take care of its existing people, what use is it to take more land and more people?

It will be a win-win for both India and Pakistan. We are the closest to Pakistanis genetically, culturally and linguistically. No point fighting like dogs.
 
I know of a Pakistani Canadian who donated $600,000 to a local Canadian Mosque. Tells you that Foreign Pakistani's arent really invested in their country of origin.
 
I know of a Pakistani Canadian who donated $600,000 to a local Canadian Mosque. Tells you that Foreign Pakistani's arent really invested in their country of origin.

Last weekend we had a fund raiser at our mosque in Redmond, Washington. $940K were raised in less than 2 hours for TCF (The Citizen's Fund) to build schools in Pakistan. Although the majority of the people in audience were Microsoft/Amazon/Google employees.

However, there is no way you can expect overseas Pakistani's to contribute $10B in donations for the dams. The project needs to be run as an investment opportunity were people get a return (profits from electricity generated etc)
 
Last weekend we had a fund raiser at our mosque in Redmond, Washington. $940K were raised in less than 2 hours for TCF (The Citizen's Fund) to build schools in Pakistan. Although the majority of the people in audience were Microsoft/Amazon/Google employees.

However, there is no way you can expect overseas Pakistani's to contribute $10B in donations for the dams. The project needs to be run as an investment opportunity were people get a return (profits from electricity generated etc)

There was a recommendation made to the PM Office to set up the Dam Fund as a publicly listed company on the stock exchange to attract more investors
 
India should help Pakistan build those dams.

Time for us to grab the opportunity and help our neighbor. In return, Pak should let Kashmir go and recognize the international border, arrest all terrorists.

If Pak cannot take care of its existing people, what use is it to take more land and more people?

It will be a win-win for both India and Pakistan. We are the closest to Pakistanis genetically, culturally and linguistically. No point fighting like dogs.

Oh wow. What a solution. :))) So many people have lost their lives in the end to let go kashmir for a dam. I dont think its a good solution.
 
Oh wow. What a solution. :))) So many people have lost their lives in the end to let go kashmir for a dam. I dont think its a good solution.

Just because we have lost millions on people on both sides before, we let it continue?

What kind of logic is this? At some point both parties need to cut their losses and see where their actual benefit lies.
 
India should help Pakistan build those dams.

Time for us to grab the opportunity and help our neighbor. In return, Pak should let Kashmir go and recognize the international border, arrest all terrorists.

If Pak cannot take care of its existing people, what use is it to take more land and more people?

It will be a win-win for both India and Pakistan. We are the closest to Pakistanis genetically, culturally and linguistically. No point fighting like dogs.

lol nice one. Will this be another MOU signing and then a backtrack once Pakistan fulfil's its part of the deal?

Not sure mate
 
A dam is not a charity project.

You either build it with state funds or you do not. So US folks have contributed 0.08% of the total? Well, how much is 100% of the current total, and where does it stand vis a vis the total amount of money required? Not even 0.08% I would wager.

I'd go as far as to say that even if Pakistan had been donating to this cause right since independence, they wouldn't have enough money for it. This is not an ideal business model for such a giga scale project.
 
A dam is not a charity project.

You either build it with state funds or you do not. So US folks have contributed 0.08% of the total? Well, how much is 100% of the current total, and where does it stand vis a vis the total amount of money required? Not even 0.08% I would wager.

I'd go as far as to say that even if Pakistan had been donating to this cause right since independence, they wouldn't have enough money for it. This is not an ideal business model for such a giga scale project.

Not sure why it cant be achieved. The govt can collect way more money than it can imagine by tax collection in one year alone. Sadly the people of Pakistan do not want to give money to this project and lack the motivation, drive to do so, the govt will have to squeeze it out of them
 
Funding for dam or the lack of it is a symptom not cause. When Chief Justice of Pakistan believes that you can crowdsource $14 billion then your average citizen is not at fault here.

Ad hocism has the been the principal policy since independence and will continue to do so because not one individual who has some sort of power came out and said "This is plain stupid. That is not how you build dams". On the contrary, they were/are busy outdoing each other in boasting about much they care about the dam.
 
14.000.000.000.000. USD?

Let's say there are 250 million people in Pakistan.

That's 56000 USD pr. citizen.

Good luck getting that through donation.
 
14.000.000.000.000. USD?

Let's say there are 250 million people in Pakistan.

That's 56000 USD pr. citizen.

Good luck getting that through donation.

Maybe the govt can introduce a Dam Tax, if people can easily provide billions of dollars of tax revenue per year, why can they not provide the same amount via donations? Its simple, the people are lazy, unmotivated and the type who give up immediately in the face of huge obstacles rather than doing the hard work of building things up brick by brick.
 
Just because we have lost millions on people on both sides before, we let it continue?

What kind of logic is this? At some point both parties need to cut their losses and see where their actual benefit lies.

Why do you think that Pakistan giving up Kashmir is a good solution and not India?
 
Maybe the govt can introduce a Dam Tax, if people can easily provide billions of dollars of tax revenue per year, why can they not provide the same amount via donations? Its simple, the people are lazy, unmotivated and the type who give up immediately in the face of huge obstacles rather than doing the hard work of building things up brick by brick.

People are not lazy or unwilling. In the west some countries people pay 50+% of their income in tax and they do it happily, because they have confidence that the government will spend it well. Do you honestly believe the 14 billion if collected from people will be spent fairly without curruption etc.? People in Pakistan has not much trust in the government.
 
People are not lazy or unwilling. In the west some countries people pay 50+% of their income in tax and they do it happily, because they have confidence that the government will spend it well. Do you honestly believe the 14 billion if collected from people will be spent fairly without curruption etc.? People in Pakistan has not much trust in the government.

Valid point but this is the PTI govt now with a PM who has proven to be a champion and extremely reliable when it comes to rapid fund collection and executing projects
 
Valid point but this is the PTI govt now with a PM who has proven to be a champion and extremely reliable when it comes to rapid fund collection and executing projects

This dam fund is a total sham ... will amount to nothing.. Just a facade.. will end up building a kothi for some politician in the future.
 
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