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ISLAMABAD: Dismissing Washington’s warning to Islamabad over Beijing’s giant infrastructure push, Chinese Ambassador Yao Jing has said that Pakistan-China relations were based on “win-win cooperation” and were mutually beneficial for both countries.

US Acting Assistant Secretary of State for South Asia Alice Wells had warned Pakistan that it would face long-term economic damage with little return if China kept pursuing the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor — heralded as a game-changer by both Asian countries.

The top US diplomat for South Asia said the CPEC would profit only Beijing, adding that the United States offered a better model. “It’s clear, or it needs to be clear, that CPEC is not about aid,” she said in a statement issued on Friday.
Addressing the 5th CPEC Media Forum in Islamabad later in the day, Ambassador Jing said China had always come forward to assist Pakistan in need without any political or government differences. He said if Pakistan was in need, China would never ask it to repay its loans in time, whereas, the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which is mainly governed by the West, was strict in its repayment system.

“Why the US suspended its aid promised for Pakistan only because of political priorities,” he questioned.

Expressing astonishment over the US diplomat’s statement of higher tariff in power plants, established under CPEC, the Chinese envoy said that he himself had earlier briefed Wells about the tariff structure of these power plants, which he added, was the lowest among all the countries benefiting from China’s electricity.

“In 2013, when Chinese companies were establishing power plants in Pakistan, where was the US? Why it did not invest in Pakistan’s power sector despite knowing that the country was in dire need of electricity.”

Commenting on US allegation of corruption in CPEC projects, Yao Jing said it was easy to allege without presenting evidence. He said he discussed the matter with a number of concerned stakeholders including the National Accountability Bureau (NAB), but did not find even a single evidence of corruption in any CPEC project.

“My dear American colleague, before alleging anyone, please ensure that you have enough evidence,” he added.

The Chinese envoy further clarified that the project cost of ML-1 railway line is around $9 billion, however it is only estimation and not the final cost. “The real cost of the project will be finalised in the second stage of determining financial package of the project,” he said.

The Chinese envoy also refuted the US claim over providing less employment opportunities to Pakistani workers in CPEC projects, saying over 75,000 Pakistani workers had been provided jobs in different projects thus far and that by 2030, around 2.3 million jobs were expected to be created in CPEC projects.

“I would be happier to see more investment coming from the United States in Pakistan,” he remarked.

Ambassador Jing siad China was determined to build capacities of Pakistani businessmen and industrialists to boost productivity in the country, which would ultimately help in increasing the exports of Pakistan.

Under CPEC, he said China would provide industrial cooperation to Pakistan and for this purpose over two dozen leading Chinese and Pakistani manufacturers and industrialists were engaged to boost production and exports of Pakistan.



Source: https://tribune.com.pk/story/2104737/1-china-dismisses-us-warning-pakistan-cpec/
 
The U.S. appointed Saleem Bajwa as CPEC Chairman to keep an eye on China. I hope he doesn’t disappoint them.
 
The U.S. appointed Saleem Bajwa as CPEC Chairman to keep an eye on China. I hope he doesn’t disappoint them.

You have any proof of this, or just shooting from the hip as usual?
 
Pakistan will do what is best for them. US should mind its own business. China has been a time tested friend of Pakistan unlike fair weather US.
 
The U.S. appointed Saleem Bajwa as CPEC Chairman to keep an eye on China. I hope he doesn’t disappoint them.

LOL, what? NO

Anyone with little knowledge of current affairs and who is capable of interpret day to day news would know why Bajwa and Asad Umar were appointed to their new roles.

This guy, hahahahahahaha
 
You have any proof of this, or just shooting from the hip as usual?

LOL, what? NO

Anyone with little knowledge of current affairs and who is capable of interpret day to day news would know why Bajwa and Asad Umar were appointed to their new roles.

This guy, hahahahahahaha

The U.S. moans about CPEC and we respond with by appointing a former general to oversee things. Yep, there is no connection between the two.

You can never underestimate the naivety of cult-followers and their leader. The same naivety that led to Nawaz walking out of jail without paying a penny, while cult-followers were doing bhangra over billions of dollars and bonds etc.
 
The U.S. appointed Saleem Bajwa as CPEC Chairman to keep an eye on China. I hope he doesn’t disappoint them.

The idea of CPEC Authority (CPECA) was discussed in August cabinet meeting to speed up the work on CPEC and during IK visit to China our Govt wanted to show the Chinese we are not delaying the process thn Imran visited China in October and on the same day of his visit in October it was passed through a Presidential ordinance and now we are appointing a head of CPECA. Now help me find USA behind all this with some evidence. I am posting links below for more details.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1509705
https://www.dawn.com/news/1500468
 
The U.S. appointed Saleem Bajwa as CPEC Chairman to keep an eye on China. I hope he doesn’t disappoint them.

I wonder if USA also asked your beloved PMLN to make 2 retired Generals Senators of Pakistan?

There are currently only 2 retired Generals serving as Senators of Pakistan and both of them are from same party and served as minister too in last Govt so can you please tell us the name of their party who made them senator?

Yes your favorite jamhoori party PMLN now tell me what exactly PMLN is trying to achieve by making generals as senators? can't they find better candidate from their own party?

Lt. General (R) Abdul Qayyum (PMLN)
Lt. General (R) Salahuddin Tirmizi (PMLN)


http://www.senate.gov.pk/en/profile....tid=&cattitle=
http://www.senate.gov.pk/en/profile....tid=&cattitle=
 
The U.S. moans about CPEC and we respond with by appointing a former general to oversee things. Yep, there is no connection between the two.

You can never underestimate the naivety of cult-followers and their leader. The same naivety that led to Nawaz walking out of jail without paying a penny, while cult-followers were doing bhangra over billions of dollars and bonds etc.

Hhahahahahahahah.

Simple answer is NO!

You are again interpreting things wrong.

I think you should stick to "tomatoes prices" to defend your narrative.
 
The CPEC Authority falls under Planning Ministry and newly appointed Planning Minister Asad Umar had a detailed press conference today where he rebutted all of the US's comments.



The US should mind its own business and not poke its nose where it doesn't belong.
 
We should trust neither America or China unconditionally. It's a dog eat dog world.
 
Ground work being laid to give Pakistan choice, either get on FATF list or stop CPEC.
 
THERE are legitimate concerns about the impact that investments coming into Pakistan under the CPEC umbrella will have on the country’s economy, but the recent [intervention][1] of US Assistant Secretary Alice Wells in this debate only serves to muddy the waters rather than spark a helpful conversation.

As a senior American diplomat, Ms Wells has sometimes been perceived as patronising towards Pakistan. Her remarks about CPEC, in which she tried to underscore the rising debt burden that Chinese investments are bringing to this country, can hardly be expected to ensure progress in the Pakistan-US relationship which itself has undergone a long period of tension.

Should the administration in Washington D.C. decide to act on Ms Wells’ words, far from yielding any dividends, it will only create more obstacles in bilateral ties — a hint of this emerged over the weekend when government ministers said that Pakistan would go ahead with CPEC.

As such, the best advice that can be offered after her talk at the Woodrow Wilson Centre, during which she raised her concerns about the CPEC project to widespread media coverage, is to let her words lie where they fell.

Action speaks louder than words. The concerns being voiced about the growing ties between China and Pakistan by a faction within the Trump administration need more than words before they can be considered credible.

Ms Wells should be asked what the current US administration is willing to do to help Pakistan meet its needs for infrastructure in a way that does not aggravate the country’s debt burden. If her response is not convincing, then her words will be overshadowed by the ability and willingness of Chinese capital to acquire long-term stakes in this country.

There is no doubt that a more detailed conversation is needed within Pakistan around the growing Chinese stakes in the economy. The repayment obligations are part of this debate. In addition, the direction in which these investments will take our economy in the future, particularly in vital areas such as agriculture that is the cradle of our food self-sufficiency, also needs a more sensitive discussion.

But this should first and foremost be a conversation among Pakistani stakeholders, including business leaders, political parties, the research community and the media.

The Trump administration will struggle to find a place in this debate since its input will inevitably be viewed through the prism of its escalating struggle to contain the emergence of China as a great power on the world stage — as epitomised by the ongoing trade war between the two.

It would be better if the bilateral dialogue between the US and Pakistan were to focus more on the tangible outcomes that both sides wish to see in Afghanistan, and leave out China and CPEC until such time that the US has something useful to contribute.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1518723/disparaging-cpec.
 
LAHORE: Pakistan has a sovereign right to decide its future with regard to the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), says the US ambassador.

"US Assistant Secretary Alice Wells’ comments on CPEC were meant to generate a debate; however, it is Pakistan’s sovereign right to decide its future (in this regard). We do not expect everyone to agree with us or agree with every aspect of her speech," US Ambas*sador to Islamabad Paul W. Jones said here on Monday.

Talking to reporters after visiting the historic Wazir Khan Masjid to review the ongoing restoration work under the ‘US Ambassador’s Fund for Cultural Preservation’, Mr Jones said there should be plenty of debate and discussions on her [Ms Wells’] speech.

“Pakistanis should under*stand Alice Wells’ statement and this should be taken positively. Different aspects of this statement need to be understood,” he said.

The ambassador further said not only in Pakistan but in other countries also the path of development was important for the prosperity of people, therefore it should be transparent and discussed openly.

Accompanied by his wife Catherine, Mr Jones said Lahore is a beautiful city having great culture, commerce and tourism. “I am delighted that we have such a dynamic and experienced Consul General, Catherine Rodriguez, here,” he said.

Ms Well had said the CPEC might take a toll on Pakistan’s economy as it was not an aid but a form of financing that guaranteed profits for Chinese state-owned enterprises. Pakistan, however, had rejected the statement saying Alice Wells’ speech on the CPEC was based on wrong analysis and incorrect assessment of the facts. Chinese Ambassador to Islamabad Yao Jing also rejected Ms Wells’ statement, saying “Pak-China relations are based on win-win cooperation and are mutually beneficial”.

Mr Yao expressed astonishment over Ms Wells’ statement of higher tariff in power plants, established under the CPEC.

The ambassador questioned that when in 2013, the Chinese companies were establishing power plants in Pakistan, where was the US? Why it did not invest in Pakistan’s power sector despite knowing that Pakistan was in dire need of electricity.

He said China had always come forward to assist Pakistan in need without any political or government differences. He said if Pakistan was in need, China would never ask it to repay its loans in time, while on the other hand the International Monetary Fund, which is mainly governed by the West, was strict in its repayment system.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1518844/pakistan-has-sovereign-right-to-make-any-decision-on-cpec-us.
 
LOL the U.S are the biggest jokes on this planet, they do and say as the please, its about time the world ignores them and gets on doing what is best for themselves.

The quicker the demise of the U.S as a global power, the better for the world as a whole..and we shall see exactly that in the next decade
 
LOL the U.S are the biggest jokes on this planet, they do and say as the please, its about time the world ignores them and gets on doing what is best for themselves.

The quicker the demise of the U.S as a global power, the better for the world as a whole..and we shall see exactly that in the next decade

Yet you're using a U.S based invention, the internet, to post this crap.

Dont be a leech.
 
The CPEC Authority falls under Planning Ministry and newly appointed Planning Minister Asad Umar had a detailed press conference today where he rebutted all of the US's comments.



The US should mind its own business and not poke its nose where it doesn't belong.

Is it true that Chinese firms operating under CPEC are immune and protected from corruption investigations? Seems like a terrible move, one that is very much not in the interests of Pakistani citizens -given Chinese companies horrible track record in corruption all over the world. How can such a poor decision be justified? Why would Pakistani authorities give such a blanket protection to Chinese companies? I wonder what was in it for them.
 
Chinese Foreign Ministry's spokesperson Geng Shuang termed United States Assistant Secretary Alice Wells' recent comments on the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) programme as "mere repetition of old slanders against China, the CPEC and the BRI".

During a press briefing on Monday, Geng pointed out that Wells' claims had swiftly been refuted by the Chinese ambassador to Pakistan as well as top government officials in Islamabad, including the foreign minister.

He was responding to a question regarding remarks made by Wells last week in which she warned that CPEC will add to Pakistan's debt woes. In a speech, described as “unusually specific” by the international media, the top US diplomat had said that CPEC was not an aid to Pakistan but a form of financing that guarantees profits for Chinese state-owned enterprises, with little benefits for Islamabad. Wells also emphasised the need for Pakistan to know that China was providing loans, not grants, as the US.

In his press briefing on Monday, Geng slammed Wells' statements and said: "China and Pakistan have clarified and refuted such smears time and again. However, some in the US still use the same old script. They don't stop though the show has become a complete disaster, and they don't get off the stage even when booed by the audience."

He went on to say that China puts "Pakistani people's interests first" and insisted that CPEC's projects had led to creation of employment for the locals and improvement in transportation and power infrastructure. He claimed that CPEC projects had also "contributed one to two per cent" to Pakistan's economic growth.

"The US side, in total disregard of facts, has been talking all about the fabricated 'debt issue' with the true aim to disrupt CPEC development and sow discord in China-Pakistan relations with malicious calculations," Geng regretted. He rejected the claims that China was creating a debt trap for Pakistan, saying that more than 80 per cent of the CPEC projects were being funded by direct investment or grants from China.

"According to statistics released by the Pakistani side, debt incurred from the CPEC stands at 4.9 billion US dollars, less than one-tenth of Pakistan's total debt.

"I'm afraid certain individuals in the US are not bad at math, but rather misguided by evil calculations," he said.

Soon after Wells' comments last week, Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi declared that Pakistan had " rejected that view". He added: "We do not think that the burden of CPEC will increase our debt burden."

Planning Minister Asad Umar also dismissed Wells' claims and said that Pakistan's mounting debt crisis had "nothing to do with China".

On Monday, US Ambassador to Pakistan Paul W. Jones clarified that Wells' remarks were "meant to generate a debate". He said that Pakistan had the sovereign right to make its decisions.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1518969/a...ition-of-old-slander-chinese-foreign-ministry.
 
Ignorant huh? Here's a link for you Mr clearly not ignorant. Its a direct link to the interview with Ambassador Alice Wells from the US Government, not the "Indian Media". I will quote a few choice excerpts, but "patriotic" Pakistanis such as yourself should read the whole thing and ask some honest questions instead of the usual nonsense excuses and lies of "Indian media", etc etc.

https://www.state.gov/a-conversatio...ells-on-the-china-pakistan-economic-corridor/









$9 billion for a regular 20th century style railway, not even high speed. I think India is getting a Japanese built bullet train for less than that.

Woah!! didn't knew that can you please share a source?
 
Ignorant huh? Here's a link for you Mr clearly not ignorant. Its a direct link to the interview with Ambassador Alice Wells from the US Government, not the "Indian Media". I will quote a few choice excerpts, but "patriotic" Pakistanis such as yourself should read the whole thing and ask some honest questions instead of the usual nonsense excuses and lies of "Indian media", etc etc.

https://www.state.gov/a-conversatio...ells-on-the-china-pakistan-economic-corridor/









$9 billion for a regular 20th century style railway, not even high speed. I think India is getting a Japanese built bullet train for less than that.

Stop spreading lies. 1800 km of track (Karachi-Lahore) will be upgraded, trains will operate at 160 km/h. This project will change the whole dynamic of freight and public transport in Pakistan and will have a tremendous positive impact on our economy.

http://cpec.gov.pk/project-details/30

No wonder Indians are concerned. Their worries and shor-sharaba regarding CPEC indicates that Pakistan has adopted the right approach.
 
Stop spreading lies. 1800 km of track (Karachi-Lahore) will be upgraded, trains will operate at 160 km/h. This project will change the whole dynamic of freight and public transport in Pakistan and will have a tremendous positive impact on our economy.

http://cpec.gov.pk/project-details/30

No wonder Indians are concerned. Their worries and shor-sharaba regarding CPEC indicates that Pakistan has adopted the right approach.

Indians are genuinely concerned because, the chinese are bringing in their own workforce and brains, which leaves Pakistan youth prone to turning towards extremism.

This CPEC has been going for a while now, how come Pakistani economy and unemployment rate has only gotten worse since the time it began? Ask your self, isn't that common sense?

If Pakistan becomes this shining hub,than trust me India has so many business interests that they will be queuing outside the office whoever is incharge of trade and the entire dynamic will change.
 
Indians are genuinely concerned because, the chinese are bringing in their own workforce and brains, which leaves Pakistan youth prone to turning towards extremism.

This CPEC has been going for a while now, how come Pakistani economy and unemployment rate has only gotten worse since the time it began? Ask your self, isn't that common sense?

If Pakistan becomes this shining hub,than trust me India has so many business interests that they will be queuing outside the office whoever is incharge of trade and the entire dynamic will change.

Nah, Indians are worried because all their efforts to cripple Pakistan (by sending Kulbhushans to kill thousands of Pakistanis to international lobbying against Pakistan ie placing us on FATF etc) are going in vain simply because China has decided to invest and finance multi billion dollar projects in Pakistan when we are at our lowest.

China is not bringing their own workforce or brains as DW propaganda pieces will have you believe. My own relatives (freshly graduates) are working in these projects and there are majority Pakistanis in any CPEC project.
This current temporary stagnation in our economy is due to government trying to bring reforms and not because of CPEC which is hardly in its first phase.

I advice indian companies to invest in Pakistan and start controlling us like China is supposedly doing.

 
ISLAMABAD: Planning Min*ister Asad Umar on Thursday held separate meetings with key economic ministries to improve the pace of work between project conception and implementation while directing officials to expedite work on groundbreaking of special economic zones (SEZs), one of them before Dec 31.

He said this while reviewing progress on the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) and the Public Sector Development Programme (PSDP) funded projects on Thursday.

A senior official told Dawn that the newly-appointed minister sought to have separate meetings with ministers and top authorities of the power, energy and petroleum sectors to understand how they saw the projects, how much sectoral or market research they conducted to reach conclusions and develop their concept papers.

The process should lead to better prioritisation of projects before submitting them to the Planning Commission for approvals and funding allocations. The minister also ordered a business study on how to maximise job creation through local private sector participation in businesses.

The idea was that instead of looking at just Chinese investment, plans should be prepared to involve investors from wherever possible to the SEZs including creation of business opportunities for the locals also through business-to-business collaboration to generate maximum jobs, the official added.

The minister appreciated the progress on development of three SEZs and observed that sufficient progress had been achieved on the Faisalabad zone, known as Allama Iqbal Industrial City (M3). Therefore, the ground-breaking of the first zone under the CPEC at Faisalabad will be ensured before the end of the calendar year.

He directed that necessary work be expedited to achieve ground-breaking of Rashakai and Dhabeji SEZs within the current financial year. He noted that the Dhabeji SEZ was also being developed on fast-track basis and hopefully it would come online shortly after Faisalabad.

The representatives of Ministries of Petroleum and Power assured the minister that they would expedite electricity and gas supply for the projects.

While reviewing the PSDP-funded projects, the minister noted that the fund release mechanism had been made much easier in recent months and the ministries concerned could enjoy greater independence in spending their development budgets.

He asked the ministries to use this opportunity coming out of revised disbursement mechanism and complete their projects within the due time. An official statement said the minister emphasised effective monitoring and evaluation of the projects to ensure their smooth and timely implementation.

He also directed the concerned officials to ensure greater focus on identifying innovative funding mechanisms to finance infrastructure projects and attract private sector participation in public sector projects.

The minister was also given a briefing on the completed and ongoing projects in pipeline under the CPEC. The minister expressed satisfaction on progress of various under construction projects.

He emphasised that in the next phase of CPEC, the focus would be on enhancing economic cooperation whereby business linkages and value chains would be developed, benefiting both sides.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1519479/asad-wants-first-cpec-economic-zone-groundbreaking-before-dec-31.
 
ISLAMABAD, Nov. 29 (Xinhua) -- Pakistan's Minister of Planning, Development and Reform Asad Umar said on Friday that the government is increasing focus on the development of special economic zones (SEZs) under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) to accelerate industrialization and job creation in the country.

The government is expected to perform the groundbreaking of the first special economic zone under CPEC by the end of December, the minister said, adding that another two SEZs will be open within the current fiscal year.

Earlier on Thursday, Umar held separate meetings here with key economic ministries to review progress on CPEC. During the meetings, he directed all relevant departments to expedite work on the development of SEZs.

While expressing satisfaction on the progress of various ongoing projects under CPEC, the minister emphasized that effective monitoring and evaluation of the projects was essential to ensure their smooth and timely implementation.

Enhanced economic cooperation and the development of business linkages and value chains would be focused in the new phase of CPEC, he said.

Source: http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-11/29/c_138593218.htm.
 
Indians are genuinely concerned because, the chinese are bringing in their own workforce and brains, which leaves Pakistan youth prone to turning towards extremism.

This CPEC has been going for a while now, how come Pakistani economy and unemployment rate has only gotten worse since the time it began? Ask your self, isn't that common sense?

If Pakistan becomes this shining hub,than trust me India has so many business interests that they will be queuing outside the office whoever is incharge of trade and the entire dynamic will change.

This is just text book concern trolling. No you are not concerned about this. When was the last time an Indian was sad (as per their own opinion) Pakistan economy wasn't doing good?
 
We wouldve been invaded by now if we didnt have nuclear weapons, or full sanctions like iran experiences.
Islamaphobia is strong. People in the west dont even realize there are 300k christians in iran.
 
We wouldve been invaded by now if we didnt have nuclear weapons, or full sanctions like iran experiences.
Islamaphobia is strong. People in the west dont even realize there are 300k christians in iran.

Iran is also home to largest Jewish community in the muslim world.
 
Iran is also home to largest Jewish community in the muslim world.

Yup, idiots in America dont realize that and take their corporate media's word for it, managed to ruin iraq. Thankfully the Iran thing has died down, dont need more chaos, especially next door.
 
Dues, faulty design delay CPEC work

ISLAMABAD: The much-awaited western route of China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), which was supposed to be completed by this month, remains a victim of official neglect as non-payment of dues and some technical reasons have stalled work on the Rs110 billion project, the Senate Standing Committee on Communications was informed on Monday.

The National Highway Authority (NHA), which is an executing agency of the project, complained that the government had not released all the fund allocated under the Public Sector Development Programme, as the finance ministry slashed it to recover interest on Rs1.5 trillion loans obtained by the authority for infrastructure and development projects.

Of the seven sections of the western route, work on two sections (4 and 5) had been stopped by the contractor owing to non-payment of dues and faulty design, the Senate body was informed. It was apprised that over 60 per cent work had been completed on the entire western route but only Rs11.5bn had been allocated against the total cost of Rs110bn.

It was learnt that the contractor had done over 90pc work on section-4 of the project and was seeking to win the prize [of 5pc of the project cost] by completing the entire section before the stipulated deadline. In a six-km-long hilly patch, the contractor due to a ‘faulty’ design had to cut a cliff 18-foot deep, whereas the NHA was not ready to pay him the money for stone cutting, compelling him to leave the project incomplete. A similar situation exists as far as the work on section-5 is concerned.

The Senate body was informed that 60pc work on the project had been completed almost a year ago, but due to non-payment of funds and lack of ‘political will’ the project was in the doldrums.

Senator Ahmed Khan, a member of the standing committee, said non-payment of dues was a major cause of delay in work, whereas the project was supposed to be completed by December 2019. He apprehended that the project might delay by another year or two if the funds were not released to the contractors.

Later, a finance ministry official assured the committee that on a directive of Prime Minister Imran Khan, “more funds” were being released to the NHA and other ministries.

Payment of dues

The Senate committee also directed the NHA to pay dues to the owners of the land, which had been acquired some 18 years ago for the construction of a road from Kaghan to Babu Sar Top, as per current market rate.

However, NHA chairman Sikandar Qayyum said: “Our rules do not allow us to pay them the present market price.” Yet he would abide by the decision to be taken by the Senate committee, he added.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1520096/dues-faulty-design-delay-cpec-work.
 
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