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According to reports, Usman Khan Shinwari has sustained a stress fracture of the back and is out for an extended period.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Terrible news - Usman Khan Shinwari out of cricket for at least 6 months due to a stress fracture of the back <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/926766039534223360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4 November 2017</a></blockquote>
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I think he'll miss

Pak vs WI t20is
Tour of NZ
PSL
Tour of Zimbabwe

Career threatening blow.
 
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Back injury. Quite disappointing, I wanted to see him in NZ.

Big blow to Karachi Kings as well.
 
6 months of rest plus rehabilitation.

So it may take one year for him to return to competetive cricket.

Which means, just 6 months prior to the WC.

Junaid and Rumman would be in a much safer situation now, regarding their place in the squad .
 
Wow that's a blow. Didn't Waqar have the same thing and could not generate the same pace after the injury?
 
That's a very bad injury for a bowler. Hope he can recover from this.
 
Whether people want to admit or not, this is a big blow even with the reserves Pakistan has. The Fast bowlers' group is weaker without Usman for sure. I hope some other capable individual replaces him. Preferably a right arm fast bowler.
 
Madplayer said:
Whether people want to admit or not, this is a big blow even with the reserves Pakistan has. The Fast bowlers' group is weaker without Usman for sure. I hope some other capable individual replaces him. Preferably a right arm fast bowler.
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I’m guessing Sohail Khan will come back in unless some other young pacer impresses at the PSL
 
another drop catch said:
what ? ? ?
no problem whatsoever as Pakistan have enough bowlers who can lead their bowling attack
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What? Show some symphaty bro, this is a big blow for poor guy and it’s career threathning. He really wanted to become an even better and faster bowler so he could win matches for Pakistan.

And even though Pakistan have good fast bowlers this os a big setback for Pakistan as well. He gave is variety with his banana inswingers.
 
PakHammer said:
Wow that's a blow. Didn't Waqar have the same thing and could not generate the same pace after the injury?
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Shinwari has had this injury before as well and he already had made some changes to his action according to Waqar during commentary and getting this again must be tough.
 
As soon as they said he was holding his back i had this awful feeling in my water that he may have a stress fracture.
 
Gul has/had a similar action to Shinwari's, he also had problems with his back and sustained a stress fracture too.

Maybe that particular action isn't sustainable.
 
Heartbreaking. I'm so so sad.

This is why workloads need to be managed and a rotation system brought in.

Can [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] please bring more awareness to this issue.

Shinwari is key to our World Cup hopes
 
Huge blow and and an awful news for the guy and our cricket.

Would have loved to see him bowl on green tops.

I feel we still have Amir, Junaid, Hassan, Rumman for ODI's and in T20is we can introduce another pacer from the domestic, Karachi, Multan and Peshawar will need to introduce a new pacer this PSL. Quetta relies on spinners and gentle medium pacers.
Islamabad already has a strong pace attack.
 
IAJ said:
What? Show some symphaty bro, this is a big blow for poor guy and it’s career threathning. He really wanted to become an even better and faster bowler so he could win matches for Pakistan.

And even though Pakistan have good fast bowlers this os a big setback for Pakistan as well. He gave is variety with his banana inswingers.
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yes I feel bad for him as it may affect his career
but we have enough bowlers who can easily replace him
Junaid
Mohd Amir
Faheem ashraf
Rumman Raees
then potential wise we have
Ghulam mudassar
Sameen Gul
Shaheen shah afridi
Irfanullah shah
Ehtisham sultan
zia ul haq
Harris rauf etc
 
Awful news given the progress he was making.

Hope he gets proper medical care and we avoid repeat of Haris Sohail saga.
 
another drop catch said:
yes I feel bad for him as it may affect his career
but we have enough bowlers who can easily replace him
Junaid
Mohd Amir
Faheem ashraf
Rumman Raees
then potential wise we have
Ghulam mudassar
Sameen Gul
Shaheen shah afridi
Irfanullah shah
Ehtisham sultan
zia ul haq
Harris rauf etc
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Bro this thread isn't about who shud replace him...
This is about a guy who had started making inroads into international cricket and will now be out of the game for atleast 6 months.... And that's what we are discussing in this thread.
 
Amir also suffered a stress fracture of the back, very early on in his career. Hopefully this doesn't derail Usman's career and he comes back stronger
 
Red Devil said:
Amir also suffered a stress fracture of the back, very early on in his career. Hopefully this doesn't derail Usman's career and he comes back stronger
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If he is lucky then he wont lose too much, but most bowlers are never the same. Ian Bishop and Waqar were 2 of the many that were never the same.
 
Red Devil said:
Amir also suffered a stress fracture of the back, very early on in his career. Hopefully this doesn't derail Usman's career and he comes back stronger
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If I am not wrong its the second time he has suffered stress fracture on the back. First one was around 2013 time.

The way his action is it (The way he slants his back to the right to get that in dipper going) it was always a danger for him.

I dont see even Bumrah having back injury free career and that was one of the reason Anwer Ali's action was remodelled to be slightly straighter.
 
He is still young, he is what 21? 22?... I'm sure he will recover Inshallah, what is more unfortunate is that he had nearly wrestled his way to being in our first eleven and now he would have to start again from scratch.
 
Red Devil said:
Amir also suffered a stress fracture of the back, very early on in his career. Hopefully this doesn't derail Usman's career and he comes back stronger
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Amir's were minor. He was never out for this long.

On topic, this sucks. Freaking Junaid gets lucky again.
 
I feel like I jinxed the lad. Man, this is so disappointing. He made watching Pakistan bowling fun. I'm genuinely heartbroken. Hoping against hope this isn't true.
 
This is terrible news- feel sorry for the guy.

Was looking forward to his performance in NZ.

I remember [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] started a thread about whether USK's action would make him injury prone. Unfortunately that has come true.
 
UN talkz said:
Bro this thread isn't about who shud replace him...
This is about a guy who had started making inroads into international cricket and will now be out of the game for atleast 6 months.... And that's what we are discussing in this thread.
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Exactly.

Obviously there are replacements but that isn't what is being discussed here.
 
Just read that this is the initial report which is not very encouraging however timeline of recovery will be finalized after the report which will come on monday.
 
Awful news. It means someone mediocre like Junaid will be given even more chances.

He is going to lose a game or two in the World Cup. Just watch.

This obsession with mediocrity doesn't stop, his past pre-injury performances don't justify his place in the side now. Was lucky to play in a CT where the other bowlers were performing. If Hasan/Amir have a bad day then the opposition will take Junaid apart.

Bookmark this and laugh at me if this doesn't happen.
 
CricFan2012 said:
Awful news. It means someone mediocre like Junaid will be given even more chances.

He is going to lose a game or two in the World Cup. Just watch.

This obsession with mediocrity doesn't stop, his past pre-injury performances don't justify his place in the side now. Was lucky to play in a CT where the other bowlers were performing. If Hasan/Amir have a bad day then the opposition will take Junaid apart.

Bookmark this and laugh at me if this doesn't happen.
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Didnt happen in CT 17. :farhat
 
Titan24 said:
Didnt happen in CT 17. :farhat
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Thank our lucky stars it didn't because Hasan was on fire and Amir supported him well.

Have noticed plenty of times how average bowlers reap the rewards when their partners do well.

If their partners are having an off day then they'll get smashed, but if they're a great bowler them they'll step up.

Junaid does not swing, seam like he used to. He is gun barrel straight. Batsmen won't go after him if they're 3 down at 30-40 runs courtesy of Amir or Hasan.
 
CricFan2012 said:
Thank our lucky stars it didn't because Hasan was on fire and Amir supported him well.

Have noticed plenty of times how average bowlers reap the rewards when their partners do well.

If their partners are having an off day then they'll get smashed, but if they're a great bowler them they'll step up.

Junaid does not swing, seam like he used to. He is gun barrel straight. Batsmen won't go after him if they're 3 down at 30-40 runs courtesy of Amir or Hasan.
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While I agree that he struggled initially post his injury but he is improving day by day. He never used to swing the ball miles but seam was his forte. He isn't consistantly getting the same seam but you can see improvement. But he has been accurate and comes his second spell he has been exceptional and was getting pretty good movement with the old ball in the CT 17.

Check out his opening spell to warner in Aus tbh not many bolwers can do that to Warner in Aus.

By no means he is in perfect form but when he finds his groove (He is slowly getting there) you are gonna love watching him ball.
 
Really sad. I really liked him as a bowler. Very hard working. But the action definitely buts strain on his back, however if we change it....he won't be the same...
 
CricFan2012 said:
Thank our lucky stars it didn't because Hasan was on fire and Amir supported him well.

Have noticed plenty of times how average bowlers reap the rewards when their partners do well.

If their partners are having an off day then they'll get smashed, but if they're a great bowler them they'll step up.

Junaid does not swing, seam like he used to. He is gun barrel straight. Batsmen won't go after him if they're 3 down at 30-40 runs courtesy of Amir or Hasan.
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he did indeed got some crucial breakthroughs in matches when he come back with Amir during the 30-40 overs... paired with Amir well..

He had a good CT in England
Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ
4 4 33.5 4 155 8 3/40 19.37 4.58

So far in this year, he had maintained his level of third seamer in the eleven who gets to share the new ball with Amir.
 
Not surprised. Was very nervous after observing his bowling action, it is just too demanding on his lower back, he had bulked up a bit compared to 2013 but it still could not prevent causing damage to his back. He will need to change his action if he wants to avoid back problems.
 
Very bad news, he was the next upcoming product of PSL after Hasan... Hope he come back better and stronger.
 
Do you think it will be tough for him. Its his 3rd stress facture his career is over?
 
Savak said:
Not surprised. Was very nervous after observing his bowling action, it is just too demanding on his lower back, he had bulked up a bit compared to 2013 but it still could not prevent causing damage to his back. He will need to change his action if he wants to avoid back problems.
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Don’t think he will succeed with a new action

Sadly I feel this will be Anwar Ali 2.0
 
7sins said:
Do you think it will be tough for him. Its his 3rd stress facture his career is over?
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What I have read that if the fracture on the same part as before then its something to ponder over, same thing happened to James Pattinson (he might get a surgery in NZ).

But if its in different part then according to doctors that part will become stronger when he will be back.
 
maxamax said:
Can I finally smell Sadaf Hussain in future?
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Yes we do have quite a bit of options. I dont think Pak will struggle but I really feel sorry Shinwari, he has been struggling over the last 4 years with injury and stuff.

He should take a decision like Tymal mills if he gets fit. He should stop playing first class cricket and should only focus on ODI's and T20s. That is the only way he can keep his action without altering with it too much.
 
PCB should be held responsible for our bowlers injury. Keep playing them in all formats.
 
sucks, I was really looking forward to seeing him in NZ

I'm sure he's devastated, this was a great opportunity for him to build on the momentum and make a real name (and lotta cash) for himself in the next 6 months

but I think Pakistan will be okay with Hassan, Amir, Abbas, Rumman, Faheem, Junaid (he gets some more time now)
 
Really sad news feel for the guy :(

And he was just about gaining confidence and blossoming
 
Titan24 said:
What I have read that if the fracture on the same part as before then its something to ponder over, same thing happened to James Pattinson (he might get a surgery in NZ).

But if its in different part then according to doctors that part will become stronger when he will be back.
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I heard james pattinson is going to NZ and will have the same surgery that extended Shane Bond career i hope we can fix shinwari problems as well.
 
Shafi said:
PCB should be held responsible for our bowlers injury. Keep playing them in all formats.
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Sorry but its not PCB fault shinwari is injury prone and he played 3 odi and 1 t20 and bowled total of 28overs and didnt player any test matches etc. So its not pcb fault if he is injured. Injuries happens look at pat cummins and james pattinson they play 3 4 games and gets injured for 8 months
 
Savak said:
Not surprised. Was very nervous after observing his bowling action, it is just too demanding on his lower back, he had bulked up a bit compared to 2013 but it still could not prevent causing damage to his back. He will need to change his action if he wants to avoid back problems.
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Can somebody explain how he bowled without much trouble for years in domestic but got injured after playing just 3-4 international games??

I know he had an injury previously too but that was way back and he did play a lot of domestic matches after that. How come he couldnt even last 10-12 matches in international circuit?
 
Very unfortunate was a good prospect, but he is still young so he can come back easily.
 
Madplayer said:
Can somebody explain how he bowled without much trouble for years in domestic but got injured after playing just 3-4 international games??

I know he had an injury previously too but that was way back and he did play a lot of domestic matches after that. How come he couldnt even last 10-12 matches in international circuit?
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No thats not the case Usman Khan has already not been able to play cricket for two years due to his back pain.
he played few fc games this season than called up for odis and t20.
 
Shafi said:
PCB should be held responsible for our bowlers injury. Keep playing them in all formats.
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Nah bro! He just played one T20 against World xi two odi's against SRL and two T20's against SRL as well. Thats not an overload of any kind so we cant blame PCB here.

You can blame PCB only on Amir's workload otherwise all else are being managed as carefully as possible. Or may be to be overcritical one can argue that Hasan Ali could have been rested for a T20 atleast.
 
asadee said:
Isnt there a way to fast track the recovery??
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Only miracle can be in the report which will come on monday if that somehow gives a positive outlook. But either ways he will have to either change his action a bit or may be make his back more stronger otherwise even after recovery he will struggle.
 
Very sorry to hear this - hope he recovers soon!
 
Shinwari was always prone to injuries, he mentioned his technical changes after taking the 5-for & said that he is glad to left that back strain problem behind but sadly it has happened again. Let's hope he can make a comeback for Zim Tri series.
 
Devastating news.

I'm no medical expert but his action appears to have caused this.

He contorts his body to the right while delivering the ball. This puts undue stress on the back and core while he drives his bowling arm through.
 
Oh dear. Devestating news. Usman looked like the best of the new lot. This is extremely dissaponting.

Pakistan have got good reserves but this is still a huge set back. I don't know if it is the right time but if selectors feel Shaheen Shah Afridi is ready for international cricket then they should bring him in so that he can be considered for the World Cup.
 
sam_ahm said:
Oh dear. Devestating news. Usman looked like the best of the new lot. This is extremely dissaponting.

Pakistan have got good reserves but this is still a huge set back. I don't know if it is the right time but if selectors feel Shaheen Shah Afridi is ready for international cricket then they should bring him in so that he can be considered for the World Cup.
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Shaheen Shah may be after PSL and few other matches. But, we still have got some bowlers who can impress at international stage but it depends upon what selectors and team management have in mind.

Who knows Shinwari might get fit and selectable during the middle part of 2018 but monday's report will confirm the condition.

Or may be somebody else gets in the side and cements his place with the current team environment if they will invest in the right guy we sure will be able to see another star in making.
 
He does need to strengthen his back. But not sure about his methods of stregthening the back evident by this video.

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KhanNn said:
He does need to strengthen his back. But not sure about his methods of stregthening the back evident by this video.

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I feel so sad and angry watching videos like this. How backward our people are that they don’t know the simplest aspects of the human body and strength and conditioning training. What we have here is a jerky movement with weights that’s going to put too much unnatural pressure on the lower back as it changes from a natural s shaped spine. I would say it’s probably the best way to mess up a bowlers back. Don’t we have any half educated physios to train our guys properly?
 
Abid Z said:
I feel so sad and angry watching videos like this. How backward our people are that they don’t know the simplest aspects of the human body and strength and conditioning training. What we have here is a jerky movement with weights that’s going to put too much unnatural pressure on the lower back as it changes from a natural s shaped spine. I would say it’s probably the best way to mess up a bowlers back. Don’t we have any half educated physios to train our guys properly?
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Absolutely. The amount of stress this unnatural movement would cause is significant to the lower back
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rehab start will be back soon in sha Allah remember me in ur prayers &#55358;&#56626;&#55356;&#57339;&#55358;&#56626;&#55356;&#57339; <a href="https://t.co/FVAsyAt6nE">pic.twitter.com/FVAsyAt6nE</a></p>— Usmanshinwari (@Usmanshinwari6) <a href="https://twitter.com/Usmanshinwari6/status/930849599820042241?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 15, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I am pretty hopeful that we will have fully fit bowling strength by PSL if Shinwari starts bowling next month thats really a possibility
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Azhar Mahmood "I am glad to say that Usman Khan Shinwari has started to bowl again & based upon what he has told me and the videos which he has sent to me hopefully he will be fit to play in the PSL" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HBLPSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HBLPSL</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/962272051938684935?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Great news for KK and Pakistan.But I hope he’s fully fit and won’t aggravate his injuries if he isn’t at 100%
 
Unbelievable video!!! an international athlete showing how to wreck your Lower back 🤦🏽*♂️.. on the bright side it was a single stress fracture so 10/12 weeks recovery was not bad
 
this guy should be taught how to train..he is damaging his lower back trough these drills.
 
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